/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10530823]

Is the fruit meme true? Is a diet where I don't eat fruit since they contain carbs better for me?

[Anonymous No.10530832]

>>10530823
You should probably stop eating so much cock, it can't be good for you

[Anonymous No.10531474]

>>10530823
It's up to you. Look up ZeroCarb. Not for the faint hearted, especially due to peer pressure and predisposed dietary conditioning by how we were raised.

If that's too extreme, then start with keto first for a year then move to ZC. But cheating on keto is easier so watch out.

[Anonymous No.10531627]

>>10530823
Fruit is a fucking meme, literally water, sugar and vitamins.
Get your vitamins from somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.10531850]

>>10530823
Yes, eating fruit contains dangerous carbs and sometimes gluten, what the doctors don't tell you is that even Multivitamin contain said gluten in fairly high doses. They can induce stress and a feeling of anxiety on people, even irritation on the skin.

[Anonymous No.10531860]

>>10530823
Fruit is good, but in moderation, limit it to 2 pieces daily max. There are also quite a lot of low carb fruits, blackberries and raspberries are always good, but clementines are also pretty low carb.

[Anonymous No.10531890]

didn't steve jobs die because of fruit?

[Anonymous No.10531897]

>cant eat carbs because they are bad for you
>cant eat fat because its bad for you
>cant eat too much protein because its bad for you
>cant eat red meat
>cant drink milk
>cant eat fucking fruit
Im THIS close to just saying fuck you to this entire thing and just eating what the hell I feel like eating. the thing that pisses me off the most about nutritional """science""" is that half of it keeps being proven false by the hour so the entire field is shrouded in this cloud of half-knowledge.

[Anonymous No.10531937]

>>10530823
Fruit is overrated and surpassed by vegetables in every single way

[Anonymous No.10531957]

>>10531897
>cant eat carbs because they are bad for you
There is literally nothing wrong with carbs on principle. The only reason people avoid carbs is if they're giant fat asses who can't exercise to lose weight. Carbs are a perfectly acceptable dietary staple, with one caveat: you have to avoid carbs that come from sugar. This means no candy, no soda, and no fucking fruit. We're talking about complex carbs here: bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, starch. 40% of your calorie intake should come from carbs.

>cant eat fat because its bad for you
This was a lie all along. Fat was demonized by the sugar jew to distract people from how devastating sugar is on the body. Dietary fat is incredibly necessary to a healthy body and 30% of your calorie intake should come from it.

>cant eat too much protein because its bad for you
Now you're just being retarded. See fat, 30% of your calories should come from protein.

[Anonymous No.10532063]

>>10531957
This but the suggested carb ratio is too high imo.

[Anonymous No.10532066]

>>10530823
fruit is natures sweets, just dont eat too much.
they are healthier than normal sweets and carbs arent that bad...

[Anonymous No.10532108]

>>10531890
No. He had cancer and thought he could treat it with fruit. Him being a dumbass killed him

[Anonymous No.10534005]

>>10530823
Macronutrient-wise, fruits are sugar. Not even carbohydrates, just straight-up sugar - even those that aren't very sweet-tasting.

They *do* contain various micronutrients and fiber, so it beats eating candy (calories being equal).

Some carbs isn't bad - just eat a balanced goddamn diet and not hoover up truckloads of bananas and grapes because 'froot b gud rite?'.

[Anonymous No.10534015]

>>10531850
So much this

[Anonymous No.10534023]

>>10531890
Yes, his cancer was ultimately caused by the stress of running his fruit company, Apple.

[Anonymous No.10534036]

>>10531897
You’re very close to being red pilled on nutrition. Let me know if you want to know more.

[Anonymous No.10534053]

Fruit is good for you, but the sugar really does fuck it all over. There's plenty of alternatives though.
>>10531957
This.

[Anonymous No.10534069]

>>10531957
Is 33.3333% of your calories from each macro the ultimate diet?

[Anonymous No.10534080]

>>10531937
Except taste, and that's why I'm eating them

[Anonymous No.10534082]

You should not eat any fucking fruit under ANY circumstances. There are 4 diets which can be accepted, depending on your microbiome. These are

>Ketogenic
This is the most commonly used as people with an A type Microbiome adapt. Stay below 15g of carb to be safe. Do NOT eat any fucking berries. Ketogenic dieters who eat berries are mentally ill. They are like straight men who give blowjobs to 50 men at the weekends. This is the diet that is easiest to adapt to but is not the best, in my opinion. However, Berries have a proven damaging effect on the body. Did you know that 90% of berry species grow on trees that have thorns? Thorns and spikes are natures way of indicating poison. If you eat too many berries, or any berries at all, you run the risk of hyperintestinal thornoglaucemia, which is a severe internal bleeding caused by thorn remnants.

>Zero Carb
This is where you only eat meat. This is a decent diet, but IMO can be improved upon with the next two diets. The main problems with zero carb are that it involves eating cow and sheep which themselves have eaten carbs. This can be damaging to the body especially for ultramarathon runners like me.

>Zero Carb Keto Meats
This is my preferred diet. I only eat meat from animals that were in ketosis at the point of death. This generally means only eating high trophic level animals like Tuna, Shark, Wolf, Bear and Whale. I can eat beef but only if the cow was a keto cow

>AntiFiber Zero Carb
This is a hard diet to pull off, and I am aiming for it. Fiber is fucking cancer. Think about what fiber is - it is undigestible food. You might as well be eating lego. The antifiber diet involves eating only pure animal fats, from high trophic level animals (so Tuna butter, Shark Cream and such), and you have to eat at least 4000 calories a day to drown fiber particles in the body. I know a few doing this - they are in staggeringly good shape.

Do not listen to the fucking soyboy vegans.

[Anonymous No.10534102]

Nietzsche ate 3kg of fruit every day and he was one of the smartest men ever.

[Anonymous No.10534133]

>DAE LE CARBS ARE EVIL XDDDD

[Anonymous No.10534140]

Ketoniggers are the dumbest faggots on the planet. Natural selection working overtime i suppose. There is not a single reputable source in the world or single peer reviewed scholastic paper that says anything negative about whole fruit consumption

[Anonymous No.10534156]

>>10531957
>>10532063
>>10534053
I would tell you to kill yourselves but you’re already slowly doing it by being fat idiots who listen to too much Joe Rogan. It’s astounding you don’t even think for five seconds as to how sugar from a fucking apple is different from table sugar from a fucking bag. Satan save this hopeless shithole planet

[Anonymous No.10534182]

>>10534082
>The main problems with zero carb are that it involves eating cow and sheep which themselves have eaten carbs. This can be damaging to the body especially for ultramarathon runners like me.
> I only eat meat from animals that were in ketosis at the point of death. This generally means only eating high trophic level animals like Tuna, Shark, Wolf, Bear and Whale

This gave me a good chuckle. Seriously though, are we being raided by LARPing vegan trolls from some militant discord group or some shit? Not even Mr. Shawn Baker himself goes that far.

[Anonymous No.10534216]

>>10534156
>fat
I'm 6lbs underweight, lardass.

[Anonymous No.10534235]

>>10530823
There’s nothing wrong with eating carbs. The problem is eating so much that your calorie intake is above the amount your body burns. You’re denying yourself one of nature’s greatest pleasures. Fruit should be eaten in moderation. It is nature’s candy and should be consumed as such.

[Anonymous No.10534238]

>>10531890
Yes and no. He had pancreatic cancer which he refused real treatment for. This is specifically what killed him. What made it worse was the high fruit diet he went on to "cure" the cancer which is apparently known to make pancreatic cancer much worse.

[Anonymous No.10534300]

>>10534238
Source on that? That's interesting how pancreatic cancer is exacerbated by fruit. Maybe it's the sugar intake on an already ailing organ?

[Anonymous No.10534320]

>>10534300
The issue wasn't so much that he ate fruit IIRC, it was that fruit was basically ALL he ate. Yeah, it's the sugar in the fruit, it stress out the pancreas in such high doses.

[Anonymous No.10534490]

>>10531957
This, when you eat carbs keep it limited to the complex carbs (disaccahrides and above) and avoid the pure fructose and glucose you get from sugar and fruits.

I would put less emphasis on carbs in general though. 40% is too high, even if that's what mainstream dietary practices say it should be. You can get by perfectly fine on just protein and fats with the occasional carb.

[Anonymous No.10534902]

>>10531957
Your gonna die of heart disease anon. Nice knowing you.

[Anonymous No.10536431]

>>10534156
>Joe Rogan
Who the fuck is that? This WOE I'm following is guided by MD's and professors not some blogger, unless he cites them.
>fat idiots
Fucking kek dude, if only you knew... But hey I don't care, natural selection does work best and we'll see your SAD and soyboi vegan diets compared to ZC high fat and ketogenic diets on the long run.

[Anonymous No.10536455]

>>10534490
Pretty much, just like my suggestion >>10532063

>>10534902
Ah you stupid sheep. 700B fucking dollars, 50k participants, 10 years. That's just one study. In addition to tons of money spent on other studies. Only to prove saturated fats has nothing to do with cardiovascular illnesses. Yet sheeps keep "BAAAAA'ING" this monotonous idiots rhetoric that the fat you eat, condenses on your arteries just because you ate too much of it. That what inflammation does idiot, whether you had exogenous fats or not! Sugars and refined ones especially are the worst when it comes to inflammation.

FUCK.

[Anonymous No.10536509]

>>10536455
* yet sheep keep
* idiotic rhetoric

[Anonymous No.10536995]

the "fruits and vegetables" meme is a meme. you should be eating mostly vegetables with some fruit, not 5 servings of fruit a day

[Anonymous No.10536999]

>>10530823
That sounds like meme dietary advice if I ever heard it.

[Anonymous No.10537002]

>>10530823
I don't think it's bad for you however I personally don't like most fruits. I like vegetables tho.

[Anonymous No.10537489]

TF IS THIS?
Has Ck been overtaken by shills since Ive been gone for a couple years?

THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG WITH EATING FRUIT.

Fruit lowers your glycemic index (that means it does t raise but lowers your blood sugar) l. Fruit increases your overall health and immune system through abtibiotics. Fruit because of their carbohydrates and fiber are healthy for digestion and making you feel satiated so you eat less.

I will debate anyone on why fruit is bad or good.

Inb4 keto and paleo and atkin fags bash carbs not knowing anything about nutrition