Veganism

[Anonymous No.10459415]

What do you think?

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/pictures/vegan-memes/85628852/

[Anonymous No.10459426]

animals are too dumb to be "innocent" in a sense of morality

[Anonymous No.10459433]

>>10459426
Can you explain?

[Anonymous No.10459443]

>>10459433
Well can you explain how an animal could be "innocent" or sinful/guilty? They don't really have the mental capacity for morals or even personality (except some species such as chimps, known to have unique personalities and complex emotions)

Most animals are just there, to eat or be eaten

[Anonymous No.10459450]

>>10459443
Are you Asian? Because I'm pretty sure the only way someone could actually believe that is if they were in a culture severely brainwashed to believe they're justified in torturing animals for no reason.

Most sane, normal people have no problem seeing personality and empathy in other animals. Not trying to be demeaning, but another possibility is that maybe you have autism, since people with autism struggle with understanding emotion in others?

[Anonymous No.10459455]

She doesn't have a very good meat to fat ratio. It would be like chomping on a dry chicken breast. 30%-35% body fat please.

[Anonymous No.10459462]

>>10459426
This.

Every animal on Earth would try to eat you if only you were smaller. Even your pet dog.

[Anonymous No.10459467]

>>10459462
Are you the same person pretending to be someone else agreeing, or are there actually more than one of you this confused?

[Anonymous No.10459515]

>>10459433
an animal would fucking eat you alive if it had the chance, humans are superior enough to be humane and grant a quick painless death when sending animals to the butcher.

[Anonymous No.10459520]

>>10459450
>torturing animals for no reason
>butchering for consumption is torturing
>see chinks cook dogs means all people who eat meat are animal torturers
retard

[Anonymous No.10459527]

>>10459520
>assumes animals aren't tortured in 99% of farms
>calls me a retard despite doing zero research

I'm embarrassed for you.

[Anonymous No.10459530]

>>10459515
Except it's not quick or painless and you kill and torture the animals for literally no reason.

[Anonymous No.10459534]

>>10459515
And if animals jumped off a cliff given half a chance, I bet you'd do that too.

[Anonymous No.10459546]

Christ, those memes sucked. If anything they only strengthened my resolve to consume the flesh of animals for pleasure and nutrition.

[Anonymous No.10459551]

>>10459530
Those are Asians who do that, not humans. And its not like you even care to differentiate when you scream at the consumers for buying meat products.

[Anonymous No.10459552]

So that's the state of EBW.
I had forgot it existed. Kinda like Myspace or Rathergood or Rotten.

They're not going to win over anyone to their cause with those shitty memes, that's for sure.

[Anonymous No.10459553]

>>10459527
>says others are retarded for not thinking that 99% of animals are tortured in farms
>tells others to do research while he provides zero proof to his claim of animals being torurtured in farms

All vegans are brainlets but not all brainlets are vegans.

[Anonymous No.10459570]

>>10459551
Actually it's Americans, Asians, Australians, etc....
Look up standard practice in your country.

[Anonymous No.10459583]

>>10459415
i think veganism will get more popular year for year.
in a far away future it could even be normal to not eat meat , if humans get more on earth they need to change anyway, maybe products from insects will be more accepted then.
i wouldnt mind eat insect products when you cant see them like a powder

[Anonymous No.10459587]

>>10459527
>animals tortured in 99% of farms
jesus christ anon, where did you pull that figure out of?
for that to be true, you'd have to include all kinds of retardation such as "not talking to the animals is torture"

[Anonymous No.10459592]

>>10459583
but eating insects is murder and immoral!!!!
also eating plants is murder too since plants are also living things

[Anonymous No.10459600]

>>10459587
That is a form of torture.

[Anonymous No.10459609]

>>10459587
Most animals are severely confined, to the point they can't even do the most basic things like turn around... They go insane from it. And that's just one of the most basic standard practices a majority of animals go through. I could list hundreds of other standard and barbaric practices, but call me selfish but I'm going to cross my fingers you look up this information yourself because I just can't be fucked at the moment to write an essay. Sorry.

[Anonymous No.10459615]

>>10459433
Animals are too stupid to understand the choice between good and evil and thus cannot choose to be good. They're not innocent or corrupt, they're just meat.

This is also true of small children and the retarded, but we don't eat them mostly for practical reasons. Hard to farm.

[Anonymous No.10459618]

>>10459609
Animals do not have the mental capacity to "Go insane".
What a shitty vegan you are. You have the opportunity to spread your message but instead you're lazy and sag you "Can't be fucked". More helpless are going to be consumed because you just couldn't be fuck to write an "essay". Do you feel proud?

[Anonymous No.10459627]

>>10459615
>and the retarded

Is this what your guardians have been telling you?

[Anonymous No.10459634]

>>10459618
It's 4:30 AM and I haven't slept yet. Give me a fucking break. And yes, they bite the bars of their cages til they bleed and develop many other behaviors caused by severe, chronic stress.

I think you're a troll but I will link one thing for you at least for now: http://theradicalvegan.tumblr.com/animals

[Anonymous No.10459639]

>>10459634
P.S.
Goodnight. I have to be up early in the morning. See ya if I have some down time tomorrow I guess.

[Anonymous No.10459645]

>>10459609
I don't care because animals do not have moral value.

[Anonymous No.10459649]

>>10459609
i can accept most, but 99% nope, not a chance.
it's not being selfish though, it's just that you know that 99% is BS and you don't want to prove yourself wrong. i wouldn't prove myself wrong either though
>>10459600
no, it just isn't and this is my last reply to you

[Anonymous No.10459655]

>>10459639
What a ridiculous image. Who the fuck cares about males?

[Anonymous No.10459657]

>>10459649
Over 99% of animals are raised in factory farms, and standard practice in factory farms is torture, so....
https://www.aspca.org/animal-cruelty/farm-animal-welfare

And animals are tortured outside of factory farns as well, so I was actually being pretty conservative with that number.

[Anonymous No.10459659]

>>10459649
The last one wasn't me by the way...which should have been obvious...

[Anonymous No.10459661]

>>10459592
but eating insects instead of meat is moraly more ok. pigs&co have more humanlike anatomy ,they feel like us see our emotions and are intelligent
also farming insects is environment friendly.
when you dont want to kill plants too go frutarian.

[Anonymous No.10459668]

>>10459661
More okay...sure. But why not just eat legumes, grains, fruit, vegetables, seeds.... Tastes better I'm sure and isn't fucking vile.

[Anonymous No.10459671]

>>10459609
I'd like a source on that claim that cows freeze to death in the trucks. From my experience as long as a cow is fed it will not freeze even in some pretty fucking brutal weather.

[Anonymous No.10459678]

>>10459668
Silk worms can't even live outside of captivity anymore. They are effectively a symbiont with the silk-farmers, the only options are to keep doing what we are doing is to kill them all.

[Anonymous No.10459679]

>>10459671
I hope they do. Freezing to death is one of the more pleasant deaths a guy can experience.

[Anonymous No.10459681]

>>10459671
There is literally a photo of a cow freezing in a truck in the meme.... And I have personally witnessed animals dying from the temperature extremes they face within the trucks... They're not protected from the weather and they don't give a fuck. They're all packed on top of each other in their own waste for days, no water or any care given, and although I don't live in an area cold enough to freeze, can assure you that the animals definitely do die from the brutal journey from farm to slaughterhouse.

[Anonymous No.10459684]

>>10459657
that's assuming factory farms standard practice in every country is torture and that's straight up false.

[Anonymous No.10459687]

>>10459681
that's not what a meme is, dumbass. writing words over a picture doesn't make it a meme. why the fuck do all these facebook assholes have to be stupid near me when i'm not on facebook?

[Anonymous No.10459696]

Actual vegans that are keen to stop others from eating meat: Do you honestly believe you will effect real change in the way most people eat in your lifetimes, if not ever? Why do you think so? Have you actually convinced anyone to change their diets?

[Anonymous No.10459698]

>>10459659
Cute piggies.

I don't deny that animals are adorable and that they'd probably rather frolic in a field than be factory farmed. But I enjoy steaks and I am perfectly willing to allow a certain level of animal suffering to ensure those steaks keep coming.
I draw the line at suffering that is pointless. I.e. kicking the pigs or skinning them alive when you could easily have killed or stunned them first.
That's why I despise Chinamen.

[Anonymous No.10459699]

>>10459684
>that's straight up false

And that's a straight up blissfully ignorant assumption, but I'm primarily educated in the U.S., although I can't think of any country off the top of my head that doesn't torture their animals as standard practice in factory farms....

You're welcome to try, but you'd still be trying to find a needle in a haystack only to stab it into your eyeball, if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.10459702]

>>10459671
Vegans lie all the time. And the rest of the time they still spread bullshit because they're ignorant.

[Anonymous No.10459703]

>>10459696
When I was vegan I got more people to convert by being honest and telling them I only started as a personal challenge and learned of the benefits later on.

Then I’d cook them dope vegan food.

I could still do the latter but if I was overly preachy it wouldn’t have had any effect.

[Anonymous No.10459705]

>>10459696
I've convinced literally hundreds. Also yes. Because with education, it's inevitable. We will also literally need to change the way we eat if we're going to survive on this planet.

[Anonymous No.10459708]

>>10459681
An animal with ice on its face isn't the same as freezing to death. I get ice forming on my face when I cut wood in winter. The only cows I've seen die due to exposure are either the orphaned young, the sick, or the injured.

>And I have personally witnessed animals dying from the temperature extremes they face within the trucks
>I don't live in an area cold enough to freeze
Hmmmmmm

You have a folder full of PETA propaganda and I am supposed to take your word on anything?

[Anonymous No.10459712]

>>10459702
>Vegans lie all the time

Most people lie all the time to be fair, but you're probably just fucking confused to be honest.

[Anonymous No.10459715]

>>10459698
I also despise PETA and the retards who support them. Most of the latter don't even know that PETA want to take away their pets.
Brainwashed Facebook cunts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KUwib-rGis

[Anonymous No.10459717]

>>10459705
whats your favourite brand of soy?

[Anonymous No.10459719]

>>10459712
I wouldn't claim to speak the truth all the time, but I don't take out adverts in newspapers or stuff mailboxes to spread those lies either.

[Anonymous No.10459720]

>linking to ebaumsworld
you need to go back.

[Anonymous No.10459734]

>>10459708
Look up the Los Angeles Pig Save and Los Angeles Animal Save....

I have witnessed animals dying from the heat and brutal conditions. They're also dying from thirst. The ones who are strong enough to get to the bottles of water gulp the water down like they've just been rescued from a deserted island. But there are a good portion of them who are too sick and injured to even stand.

[Anonymous No.10459737]

>>10459719
lol, where was the lie?

Again, pretty sure you're just fucking confused.

[Anonymous No.10459747]

>>10459737
Gas-lighting and shock photos are the kind of thing a cult would use to brainwash someone.

[Anonymous No.10459760]

>>10459747
I'm sorry the reality of what you do is so shocking to you? But that's not the fault of PETA lol.

[Anonymous No.10459776]

>>10459760
I could talk about the ethical treatment of animals, but you only want to use extreme examples.

[Anonymous No.10459787]

>>10459415
Look how weak the West has become.

[Anonymous No.10459789]

>>10459787

[Anonymous No.10459793]

>>10459789
Whales?

[Anonymous No.10459803]

>op pic
So we should only eat the flesh of the convicted felons?

[Anonymous No.10459816]

>>10459789
>gorillas
>vegan
Too much time believing everything that gets posted in your facebook echo-chamber does this to people.

[Anonymous No.10459825]

>>10459789
It's true. Predators tend to be slim and sleek and fast instead of large lumbering meatpiles.

[Anonymous No.10459829]

>>10459803
We should only eat mean animals. Ducks, dolphins, cats...

[Anonymous No.10459838]

>>10459789
> By the age of nine Baboumian had developed an interest in weight training, which led him to pursue bodybuilding as a young man. In 1999 he won the IFBB German junior bodybuilding championship, and in 2002 he became the overall junior champion at the Gießen Campions-Cup
>Since 2006 he has been competing at IFSA Strongman events.
>Baboumian has been a vegetarian since 2005, and became a vegan in 2011

So he juiced and ate meat until he got big, then he juiced and ate eggs and drank milk until he got rich, and then having earned all of his titles, having cycled more than an i7, he started to buy expensive tubs of soy protein and declare himself a vegan.

[Anonymous No.10459839]

>>10459829
Dont forget geese. Fucking geese, man.

[Anonymous No.10459845]

>>10459734
They might "fidget" for minutes but if you sever their carotid arteries they stop feeling a long time before that. Bleeding out might take a while but once you cut the bloodflow to the brain the loss of conscience happens in seconds. That''s how a "sleeper hold" works.
You'd think someone working in a slaughterhouse would know that an animal twitching does not mean it's still alive. But then again, he probably doesn't have that job because he did really well in school.

Like I said, though; as long as it's a matter of cost and efficiency I don't care if the animal suffers.

[Anonymous No.10459850]

>>10459789
>why not be vegan, you can get b

[Anonymous No.10459851]

>>10459737
Where's the lie in the image that suggests that shearing a sheep leaves it mangled and bleeding? Gee, I fucking wonder.

[Anonymous No.10459866]

>>10459737

[Anonymous No.10459869]

>>10459747
>>10459760
It reminds me a lot of how Pro-Life folks get their message across. Maybe they're the same people I don't know.

[Anonymous No.10459874]

>>10459839
I'm sure even vegans approve of killing and eating honkers.

[Anonymous No.10459877]

>>10459851
>shearing a sheep leaves it mangled and bleeding

Alright, I thought you crazies had some weird shit to say before but goddamn this is a new high of retardation, too much for me to even waste anymore time looking at.

[Anonymous No.10459883]

>>10459698
Excellent opinion, couldn't have put it better myself.

[Anonymous No.10459887]

>>10459877
Nice reading comprehension, brosef.

[Anonymous No.10459895]

>>10459546
the left cannot meme
their brains do not work correctly as they are anaemic

[Anonymous No.10459912]

>>10459877
don't forget that milking a cow is murder

[Anonymous No.10460010]

God doesnt forbid eating animals, therefore it's moral to do so.

[Anonymous No.10460015]

>>10459415
I don't recall any children dying because their meat eating parents insisted that they eat only meat. We do however have instances of children dying because their parents insisted that they be vegan.

[Anonymous No.10460024]

>>10459609
Oh no they are being sent to dacow or cowschwitz?

[Anonymous No.10460041]

The only reason the loony left exists is because we allow them to. Always remember that, cucks.

[Anonymous No.10460048]

>>10459583
Until in vitro meat becomes a thing and then vegans will have no excuse not to eat meat.

[Anonymous No.10460067]

Eat what you eat and shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.10460070]

>>10459443
>except some species such as chimps, known to have unique personalities and complex emotions

Chimps are also amoral when it comes to non-chimps, though. Their primary meat source is colobus monkeys, which they eat live.

[Anonymous No.10460147]

>>10459450
>Most sane, normal people have no problem in seeing personality and empathy in other animals.

Extremely self destructive and dangerous way of thinking. Anyone actually living around animals normally designated for consumption would disagree with you.

[Anonymous No.10460266]

Vegans are based. I'm going vegan the next time I go grocery shopping.

[Anonymous No.10460274]

>>10460010
God doesn't forbid anal sex with men either
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.10460594]

>>10459415
i only eat gay animald

[Anonymous No.10460601]

>>10459415
>ebaumsworld
Holy shit that site still exists? I used to use their jackblack soundboard to make prank calls when I was a kid.

[Anonymous No.10460658]

>>10459655
I do. Every male chick that’s thrown into a blender is a male chick that wasn’t castrated and raised to be succulent, flavorful capon.

[Anonymous No.10460719]

>>10459450
>Most sane, normal people have no problem seeing personality and empathy in other animals
actual projection

[Anonymous No.10460769]

For every animal you don't eat OP, I'm going to eat two.

[Anonymous No.10460772]

>>10459912
uhm it's actually literal rape, shitlord

[Anonymous No.10460796]

>>10459609
>>10459657
>>10459634
>>10459639
>>10459659
>>10459681
>>10459699
WOW i dont care

[Anonymous No.10460802]

>>10459702
can we skin the soyboy too?

[Anonymous No.10460928]

>>10460266
Same. Especially after reading the comments here. I don't want to be associated with the kind of dummies who justify animal abuse. Enough is enough, I have to change.

[Anonymous No.10461226]

>>10459634
>tumblr
Yeah, that's totally not biased and did a ton of research on.

[Anonymous No.10461309]

>>10459681
>>10459702
These are so fucking stupid.

The cost of raising a sheep means that farmers want to get as many fleeces of wool out of them as possible so doing a piss poor job of shaving them is the last thing they want.

[Anonymous No.10461318]

>>10461309
You're so fucking obnoxiously ignorant it physically hurts.

[Anonymous No.10461340]

>>10461309
Sure, there's a desire not to harm the sheep. But when you have a fuckload of sheep and they need to be sheared quickly, sometimes mistakes happen.

Also, do you think that the temp workers who get hired to shear sheep really give a shit about the well being of the sheep, especially when they're being yelled at by their supervisors to shear MOAR SHEEP ASAP? You didn't think the "farmer" who owns the ranch personally shears all the sheep, did you?

[Anonymous No.10461356]

>>10459609
>>10459527
you absolute brainlet these animals would not have existed in the first place without human intervention.

[Anonymous No.10461367]

What's vegans take on small fish?

[Anonymous No.10461371]

>>10461318
Mate you are a fucking nutcase or from some third world shithole. Every spring you can see farmers round here shearing sheep and you know what? They do it with shears not by ripping it off the sheep leaving it with awful wounds and unable to produce high quality wool.


Cows, sheep, chickens and pigs would be extinct in many countries if we didn't bloody eat them.

[Anonymous No.10461389]

>>10460024
underrated

[Anonymous No.10461449]

>>10459415
I don't see the problem.
Animals used for meat production are well-fed and most of them are slaughtered fast and painless.
Overall, they're doing better than a huge part of humanity.
No reason to complain.

[Anonymous No.10461457]

>>10459681
Sheep are not slaughtered for wool and most wool products today are made out of cotton, because it's cheaper.

[Anonymous No.10461464]

>>10459698
>>10459715
Now that's a good boy if I've ever seen one.

[Anonymous No.10461579]

>>10461457
>most wool products today are made out of cotton, because it's cheaper
I'm not sure I follow. Wool is often mixed with cotton/other cheaper materials, but if wool isn't used it's not a wool product.

[Anonymous No.10461592]

>>10461579
It's called "Baumwolle"(lit. Treewool) in german, so I count that as wool.

[Anonymous No.10461604]

>>10459715
I was wandering around DC the other day when some guy came up to me and asked if I wanted to "see a VR movie". I said no, and saw their peta sign/table after I refused. Sneaky fuckers acting like they're gonna show some cool video or something when it's really a vegan propaganda film. It made me irrationally angry.

[Anonymous No.10461623]

>>10461457
>Sheep are not slaughtered for wool

Oh boy....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-and-australian-wool-industries-exposed-in-shocking-undercover-footage-captured-by-animal-rights-9597552.html

You really think they just let them die of old age? God I wish I was that naive again.

http://woodstocksanctuary.org/sheep/

[Anonymous No.10461639]

>>10461623
>You really think they just let them die of old age?
No. They get slaughtered for meat.
Not wool.

[Anonymous No.10461698]

>>10461449
>No reason to complain.
Nutjobs need to complain to justify their nutjobbery.
Not all vegans are nutjobs of course, nothign wrong with having a set of ethics for the food you consume. The crusading ones though, are wackos 100% of the time.

[Anonymous No.10461733]

>>10459415
>What do you think?
Vegans can't meme

[Anonymous No.10461918]

>>10461639

[Anonymous No.10461962]

>>10461698

Yeah and torturing and killing baby animals so you can stuff their mutilated corpses in your face when you could just as easily eat something that doesn't require that and has all the same benefits as well as being healthier and better for the environment is totally not something a wacko would do.

[Anonymous No.10461990]

>>10461579
You shouldn't be able to follow the majority of 4chan user's posts. If you do, it's time to worry. 4chan user's are the most confused and confidently ignorant bunch I have ever encountered on the internet. It's difficult to tell when they're trolling and when they're genuinely retarded, or both.

Now I remember why it's been so long since I visited this site...

[Anonymous No.10462098]

>>10461962
What do you think happens to the cute baby animals when land is cleared for farming?

What about the ones in the field when the big harvesting machine drives through?

Or the ones when the stalks are burned to prep the field for the next planting?

[Anonymous No.10462114]

>>10462098
This is when vegans move the goalposts from “I’m not a murderer, unlike you” to “I may be a murderer, but at least I feel bad about it, unlike you.”

[Anonymous No.10462119]

>>10462098
Have you really not considered that animals eat a fuckton of plants? Also there's veganic agriculture.

[Anonymous No.10462131]

>>10462114
Or when we respond with what should be common fucking sense...
>>10462119

You fucks are desperate to feel better about yourselves and it makes you really fucking obnoxious.

[Anonymous No.10462167]

>>10461449

[Anonymous No.10462179]

>>10461371
They shouldn't exist in the first place. They're bred to suffer. And if you see one farm and think that's the only way things are done you're an absolute fucking mongoloid. Get out.

[Anonymous No.10462181]

Animals are property, we should be allowed to consume them if we want.

[Anonymous No.10462201]

>>10462179
>They shouldn't exist in the first place

Did you ask livestock if they would prefer to never exist at all? No, you didn’t because lifestock are insapient and can’t answer anyway :)

[Anonymous No.10462202]

>>10461356
>Chickens manipulated to have their bones crush under their own weight
>Cows manipulated to overproduce milk, making infections virtually inevitable and their bodies to go lame when they're still babies
>Sheep bred to have a ridiculous amount of wool so they can't survive on their own
>Animals are literally bred to suffer and die as babies for trivial conveniences, all while destroying the environment past the point of no return


Oh wow, what a tragedy that would be!

[Anonymous No.10462455]

It never fails to astound me how many responses vegan threads get. Are carnists that disturbed and made insecure by a fraction of the populace that they have to go full bore attack mode on those that choose a higher level of consciousness in their food choices? Live and let live keeps the blood pressure down, remember?

[Anonymous No.10462465]

>>10462455
This.

I always hear people talking about how annoying vegans are, but how the fuck are people not laughing at how obnoxious these defensive meat eaters are? It's fucking embarrassing. 4chan meat eaters are at least 1000 times more annoying than any vegan I've ever met or heard of honestly.

[Anonymous No.10462509]

>>10462455
Vegan threads get lots of replies because there are lots of omnivores. Vegans have to pad their numbers with samefagging.

[Anonymous No.10462530]

>>10462455
>>10462465
>i don't understand why people come to 4chins and shitpost.
try suicide.

[Anonymous No.10462543]

>>10462530
I want to believe that all these people defending animal abuse are trolls but there are actually people like that IRL so it's hard for me to gauge the sarcasm levels.

[Anonymous No.10462544]

>>10462455
>>10462465
See >>10460067

I told these dipshits off way early in the thread but no one listens because they're fucking stupid.

[Anonymous No.10462561]

>>10462543
>still doesn't understand why shitpost bait gets shit posts
you are one dense bastard. no wonder you are vegan.

[Anonymous No.10462585]

>>10462561
Sorry I'm not an expert on the science of neckbeards. I'm new to this 4chan thing.