/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10435502]

Any other ketofags get diabetes within the first year? What doI eat to combat this atrocity? I'm not even fat.

[Anonymous No.10435517]

>>10435502
How on Earth did you screw up that bad?

[Anonymous No.10435593]

>>10435502
keto diet
>little to no sugar
>little to no carbohydrates

>diabetes within the first year
lol, try again

[Anonymous No.10435596]

>>10435502
>diabetes
no
the keto diet is the most bloodsugar healthy diet there is

but it can be more heavy on the adrenal glands op, look into it

[Anonymous No.10435606]

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[Anonymous No.10435633]

>>10435502
dude, what?
also, an excuse to gorge yourself on fatty foods? if you do it the right way, it takes lots of dicipline. I fasted for a few days before starting that diet and all I craved was sweet food and bread. Its filling, but unsatisfying to eat nothing but protein and fat after a while. No, retard, you will not eat until youre sick off of steaks and pork rinds. a week into it, I would eat breakfast of a few eggs cooked in bacon fat, maybe with a bit of cheese and have to force myself to finish it because all I wanted to eat was straight up cookie dough or something. You WILL lose weight doing that diet correctly. fasting and ketosis would actually fix metabolic problems somewhat.

[Anonymous No.10435652]

>>10435502
>>10435633
i ate meats and stuff, but also all the vegetables i could get my hands on

op:
>no nutritional value
not even trying, the only thing i had to make sure to add was broccoli for fiber

[Anonymous No.10435656]

>>10435633
>>10435652
Guarantee you a vegan made the OP image.

[Anonymous No.10435688]

>>10435656
oh my god, thats probably right
lol, so sad

[Anonymous No.10435726]

Same OP. I fell for this retarded meme as well. My doctor recommended a nutritionist who later told me to cut back on the dairy and processed meat. I'm now prebeetus after eating mostly fruits and little fats. Don't listen to the fat fucks on 4chin, talk to a nutritionist.

[Anonymous No.10435764]

>>10435726
uh, keto doesnt work when you drink milk, too many carbs
and again, who the fuck told you to eat processed meat? thats not necessary for keto

you dont seem to know what keto is or how it works
>I'm now prebeetus after eating mostly fruits
fruits are filled with sugar, which are horrible for diabetics

just shut the fuck up you vegan shill

[Anonymous No.10435804]

>>10435764
>not knowing the deetus mechanism
>g-guys sugar causes diabetes
Being this retarded must be insufferable for your family and friends

[Anonymous No.10435813]

I have legit type one beetus and keto is fucking awesome

[Anonymous No.10435833]

I tried palio and keto for a few months each and I now I have colon cancer at 24, not sure if its related tho

[Anonymous No.10435860]

>>10435804
sugar wears down insulin sensitivity
>being this vegancucked
go fuck a vegetable

[Anonymous No.10435873]

>>10435652
Lots of veggies are too carby for keto. Say goodbye to your tomatoes and carrots and say hello to goitrogens like broccoli.

[Anonymous No.10435875]

>>10435804
keto is legitimately healthy for your blood sugar

unless you started keto and were already a prediabetic
then you must be a tardo, a tardo either way

[Anonymous No.10435879]

>>10435726
"nutritionist" isn't a protected title

all nutritionists (>99.9%) are charlatans

you're looking for a dietician

[Anonymous No.10435893]

>>10435873
mushrooms, poblano peppers, scant carrots, broccoli, onions, avacados (fruit), and spinach were my mainstays, sometimes leeks and bell peppers,

also no milk, but heavy cream has no carbs in it, so its useable

[Anonymous No.10435898]

>>10435833
Pretty sure not related. I have never done any diets and I had Leukemia at 17. Cancer is more of a genetic fluke than anything. I was a bit overweight and was just working on portion control and was in shape enough to go backpacking 5-10 miles a day if I wanted. Still ended up with a rare blood cancer at 17. LIke I said outside of some environmental exposure to lots of carcinogens cancer is mostly a genetic fluke.

[Anonymous No.10436003]

no hey dumb shit maybe not just eat fucking meats fats and cheese if you only eat beef your gnna get dieabeetus

[Anonymous No.10436033]

>>10435804
0/10
Get lost, hippie

[Anonymous No.10436134]

>>10435764
>what is dietary fiber and how does it work!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.10436154]

>>10435517
seriously this

OP, are you type 1 or type 2 diabetic? If type 1, there is absolutely nothing you can do at this point, your islet cells all died and you are fucked until medical science advances to the point of being able to replace them.

If type 2, seriously, how did you develop that while skinny and on keto? That's like drowning in the Sahara Desert. But anyway, stay on keto, don't overload your system, and maybe eventually your insulin resistance will decrease. Supposedly, fish oils like those salmon-oil omega-3 and omega-6 capsules that every supplements store sells, will help.

>>10435656
It does sound like a vegan troll thread. But people's islet cells die all the time from whatever. I had a professor at my undergrad college who was given some medication and it destroyed his pancreas.

[Anonymous No.10436174]

>>10436154
This gay thread does not deserve a reply like this.

[Anonymous No.10436180]

Why don't people just eat less calories instead of doing fad diets

[Anonymous No.10436187]

>>10435502
yes I started keto last year and just got diagnosed T1D in February. They're not related.

[Anonymous No.10436190]

>>10435502
>unnecessarily verbose normalfag meme

[Anonymous No.10436193]

>>10435596
>T1D
>nothing you can do
>he can't afford beta cell transplant surgery

you end up living as a T2 anyway but it beats finger pricks and insulin pump malfunctions.

[Anonymous No.10436200]

How hard is it to eat less carbs without become an anti carb zealot

[Anonymous No.10436220]

>diet
>gorge

I think you missed the part where you should watch your calorie intake too.
You can't really gorge on something with double the energy density of carbs when you need to adhere to a caloric limit.

[Anonymous No.10436350]

>>10435833
HNPCC or lies.

t. doctor

[Anonymous No.10436414]

>>10435764

>diabetics avoid sugar meme.

I've known diabetics who drink soda daily just as an easy way to regulate sugar levels. You dont know shit

[Anonymous No.10436417]

>>10435898

Colon cancer is more often than not diet caused. Theres a surge of it in young people lately

[Anonymous No.10436915]

>>10435502
Dumbass

[Anonymous No.10436969]

i love when retards think keto means you only eat meat and cheese every day. i've been eating keto for 15+ years now. kys, OP.

[Anonymous No.10437074]

>>10436969
Ooh. Any health complications? Heart issues or kidney problems? Are you a diabetic? Favorite dietary fat? Do you eat dairy and eggs? How many servings of vegetables do you eat a day?

I'm collecting anecdotal evidence. I'm a type 1 diabetic who's been on a ketogenic diet for several years. Everything healthwise has improved, but I still look for the possibility this is going to kill me.

[Anonymous No.10437135]

>>10437074
i have psoriasis, but i take humira for that. no heart or kidney problems and i'm not a diabetic. as far as dietary fat goes, i find myself consuming a lot of avacados. i do consume dairy (half n half, butter, and cheese) and eggs. i have two servings of veggies and fruits a day. i walk at least a mile a day and on my weekends off, i'll do some lightweight lifting. i'm 5'10" and i weight 163 lbs.

[Anonymous No.10437169]

>>10437135
Thanks. So why did you start eating like this? I did it for better blood glucose control, but I was also able to get much fitter. You know anyone who got kidney stones from this?

[Anonymous No.10437170]

I started keto and after a week my skin is no longer itchy and my joints dont hurt so I don't think I'll ever be able to stop keto.

Its kinda expensive which isn't great.

[Anonymous No.10437176]

>>10437170
Cheaper than being fat or unhealthy.

[Anonymous No.10437193]

>>10437169
to make a long story short, a very close person to me died so i gave up on life and let myself go. i weighed almost 300 lbs before i decided to better myself. it was actually the first phase of the atkins diet where i saw a transformation and i just stuck with it instead of doing the other phases. my wife got a kidney stone last year, but it was because she wasn't drinking enough water.

good for you, anon. i'm a firm believer in keto and i hope your health improves even more.

[Anonymous No.10437243]

>>10436200
How hard is it to just ignore threads on topics that you don't like

>>10436414
Yeah, standard medical practice is to load the patient down with drugs that seriously fuck up the patient unless the patient eats a steady stream of carbs. That leaves the patient dependent on the drugs, usually also dependent on insulin, and steadily worsening until the patient loses his/her feet, eyesight, kidneys, and life.

Meanwhile, at least for type-2, it's easy to just go on keto and in most cases never have to take another pill or any insulin ever again. I did it. It works.

[Anonymous No.10437255]

>>10435502
my mom has been on the keto diet for more than a year

she's lost 40lbs, started running, and quit smoking

shes never been healthier

i did warn her that this could be damaging to her liver, but such is life

I think you were already on track for betus anon. Keto is a zero sugar almost zero simple carb diet

[Anonymous No.10437259]

>>10436414
Soda is the cure to diabetes?

fuck you

[Anonymous No.10437640]

>>10437255
Tell that to this keto confessor

>Here are the blood test results for the "Carnivore Doctor" that only eats meat. He was on Joe Rogan's podcast awhile back. He's diabetic, and has testosterone levels lower than a female.

[Anonymous No.10437647]

>>10437640
>carnivore diet
>the same as keto
retard

[Anonymous No.10437745]

>>10435502
Certified nutritionist and professional fitness trainer here.

I've tried every diet imaginable. While I did lose weight on a keto based diet, my cholesterol and blood pressure increased to dangerous unhealthy levels.

Now I recommend a balance nutritional diet of no less than 2000 calories a day. Protein foods, dairy, grains and fruits of moderate consumption while vegetables of extreme consumption. With ofc 5 out of 7 days in the week of psychical exercise.

In general, the keto diet is pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.10437748]

>>10437745
which cholesterol? what were you eating? i know you're baiting, but you need to provide more info if you're gonna make those claims.

[Anonymous No.10437758]

>can't drink beer at all
Not the diet for me

[Anonymous No.10437777]

>>10437748
Low-density lipoprotein (LDL), the cholesterol which creates deposits that build up and harden on the walls of blood vessels.

I eat mostly chicken,beef,fish, eggs,dairy and vegetables.

Maybe you should stop believing in bro science or what we certified individuals call pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.10437778]

>>10437730
Holy fuck, that's great

[Anonymous No.10437800]

>>10437777
nice quads, but anecdotal evidence doesn't make you right.

[Anonymous No.10437819]

>>10437745
>Certified nutritionist
>not a registered dietician
Swerve, cunt.

[Anonymous No.10437829]

>>10435502
Does anyone seriously do keto long term? It's intended as a diet, not a lifestyle. The point is to burn fat.

[Anonymous No.10437833]

>>10437800
Please direct me to a study conducted and approved by the FDA that consuming large quantities of meats, diary and fats reduces cholesterol and blood pressure levels?

No pseudoscience links, only ones approved by the FDA.

[Anonymous No.10437835]

>>10437829
There is a legitimate cult on a few sites including Reddit, but it of course is not a good long term diet. Especially considering we have no idea what the effects would be.

The ideal thing to do is to do keto to bring yourself down quickly to a manageable weight, and then switch to something like the Mediterranean diet.

[Anonymous No.10437840]

>>10437833
fuck off, vegan shill.

[Anonymous No.10437864]

>>10437745
Is it actually healthy to eat an entirely vegan diet? I've been interested in just getting a couple of those Nourish Bowls, avocados, tomatoes, and some nuts for the week. Would mean saving a lot of time.

[Anonymous No.10437870]

>>10437864
It's the most healthy diet in terms of the physicality, I'd argue spiritually its helped me immensely too

[Anonymous No.10437874]

>>10437840
>fuck off, vegan shill.

There's only so much you can teach a person until you reach the limits of his capabilities.

[Anonymous No.10437879]

>>10437874
1. I'm a girl
2. Fuck off, vegan shill

[Anonymous No.10437884]

>>10437874
>i'm not a vegan shill, i swear!
>>10437870
>it's the most healthy diet in terms of the physicality
kys vegan scum

[Anonymous No.10437885]

>>10437864
You better like seaweed, or you better supplement your b12 somehow.
>I am a vegan with vitamin b12 problems. Don't be me.

[Anonymous No.10437902]

>>10437864
No, veganism isn't healthy for humans. You can't get proper nutrition by only eating vegetables. Our digestive systems can't digest plant based foods to get 100% nutritional value from it. Vegans just don't understand a cow and a human have different digestive systems.

[Anonymous No.10437913]

>>10437879
>>10437884
You know the drill, tits or gtfo.

[Anonymous No.10437919]

>>10437885
I actually love seaweed. Supplements wouldn't be that much of a problem.
>>10437902
This isn't entirely true. I've seen plenty of vegans posting their MFP/Cronometer logs and nutritional targets are more than met. Granted, it is more difficult.

[Anonymous No.10437928]

>>10437913
>when veganism has made you so stupid that you can't read basic things like post times
not a samefag, kys vegan.

[Anonymous No.10437989]

>>10437919
Wrong again, they're just cannibalizing themselves. The nutrients you would get by eating meats has to come from somewhere. Their digestive system are getting these nutrients from their fat reserves, muscles,organs...etc....

[Anonymous No.10438012]

>>10435893
Didn't even think about throwing in Poblano peppers to my diet. I've been on keto for a little bit, and I wouldn't say I'm tired of what I cook, but I'm looking for something different. Thanks anon.

[Anonymous No.10438026]

>>10437640
That guy just sounds retarded. There's no way that keto is to blame for that. Motherfucker needs some onions and Zinc.
>Keto is just being a carnivore! I don't need vitamins and vegetables!

[Anonymous No.10438041]

>>10437745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7zWNabebxs
This one is about keto, and how you fucked up somewhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5S6-v37nOtY
This one is about fat, and has to do a little bit more about how the modern consensus is shit.

[Anonymous No.10438055]

>>10437864
>Is it actually healthy to eat an entirely vegan diet?
The short answer is no.

Veganism is a naturally low calorie diet (unless you go full retard and eat nothing but bread) that makes hitting most your micros piss easy. Hitting your macros gets to be tricky only in the protein department but if you live in a 1st world country that issue goes away. Many of the health benefits of vegans touted by studies have had less to do with a lack of meat and have had more to do with the weight loss of a plant based diet replacing a lifestyle that didnt care what it ate. Over the long term the micros youre missing out on as well as certain key proteins you cant get from plants will start to show their effects. B12 is the common one people tout but thats easily synthesized and is honestly a non issue in this day and age. Specific proteins like taurine and creatine that the human body was used to getting for untold millenia can only come from meat and have vital functions in our endocrine and nervous systems. What doesnt help is the little media empires in the medical fields where snake oil salesmen obfuscate studies and manipulate statistics to try and sell veganism as a miracle diet that cures all ailments and fixes all of societies ills. They can easily garner a following due to an MD in their name but typically fail to put out little more than expensive propaganda in terms of research, Campbell and Gregor are two big names that come to mind. Eating a balanced diet is still the healthiest, I would suggest meeting with a nutritionist to discuss what that specifically would mean for you.

[Anonymous No.10438056]

>>10438041
Pseudoscience, show me something approved by FDA.

[Anonymous No.10438252]

>>10435813
You should be carefull though. Keto can cause acute ketoacidosis in type 1 diabetcs. The mechanisms involves are unknown but it seems to only happen to people with type one.

[Anonymous No.10438297]

>>10438056
fuck off, vegan faggot.

[Anonymous No.10438306]

>>10438056
>show me something approved by FDA
A vegan shill AND a government cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.10438312]

>>10438252
>Keto can cause acute ketoacidosis in type 1 diabetcs
No, it can't. If you're diabetic and on keto and you get ketoacidosis, it's because you missed your insulin shot or did some other dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.10438327]

>>10436180
because you can lose like 20 pounds in a month doing keto, that would take nearly half a year doing the standard "lose one pound a week by restricting calories"

[Anonymous No.10438435]

>>10437193
Wow. You lost 150 lbs. That's a hell of a lot. I only went form 190 to 165. Before I was always getting really shit A1c labs of 7-9, but now I get 5.5 to 6. Carbs just make it hard to dose insulin efficiently.

Sucks about your wife's kidney stone. I read that women are supposed to drink about 3 liters of water daily and men are supposed to drink 3-4 liters. I'm not sure I drink enough. I know I drink at least 2.5 liters.

[Anonymous No.10438615]

>>10435502
>protein, monounsaturated fats, polyunsaturated fats, vitamins and minerals
>no nutritional value at all
lads, I...

[Anonymous No.10438623]

>>10438056
>FDA
>not pseudoscience approved by the corporatist deep state
lmfao

[Anonymous No.10438725]

>be T1D
>doing low carb/keto
>mfw this thread is gay

Insulin sensitivity has gone up, if anything. had a drastic low last night after a minuscule dose. I also fast and stay active, as well as incorporating various supplements. This diet is helpful if done correctly, and while I doubt it'll cure anything for me, I don't plan on stopping.

[Anonymous No.10438808]

>>10438623
>Le evil corporations and deep state
Plebbit is that way>>>>>>>>>

[Anonymous No.10438817]

Is there a bigger feud than Ketofags and Veganfags?

[Anonymous No.10438876]

>>10438808
>don't you get it, /pol/acks are the REAL redditors
Kek. Nobody buys this. 99% of reddit is what most people would expect aka lefties

[Anonymous No.10438881]

>>10438817
>Is there a bigger feud than [any group other than vegans] and Veganfags?
There, fixed it for you.

[Anonymous No.10438902]

>>10438615
Momscience tards think vitamins only come from veggatables and meat has little to no vitamins while in reality its often the opposite

[Anonymous No.10438914]

>get trolled by armchair dietitians so hard you get diabetes

[Anonymous No.10438964]

>>10438808
>trusting either

I'm not even a Trump fan and I think you're retarded.

[Anonymous No.10438998]

>>10438808
Gas yourself, you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.10439201]

>>10438725
Crazy, isn't it? The insulin cartel hates this diet.

[Anonymous No.10439218]

>>10439201
>insulin cartel
imagine being so paranoid you think bakers are a mafia

[Anonymous No.10439350]

>>10439218
There have been some pretty compelling and suspicious instances of what appear to be anti-competitive price-fixing amongst different pharmaceutical companies. This is the definition of a cartel. It is real. Google it. But what would I know? I've only had to give those bastards a quarter million dollars to stay alive on basic, vital medication with expired patents and the same production demands since forever.

[Anonymous No.10439365]

>>10439218
>>10439350
Google "insulin price fixing"

[Anonymous No.10439382]

>>10438998
>Father Strong
I sound like a Hispanic knockoff you'd find in a rusted can in the ethnic market of an inner-city slum.

[Anonymous No.10439409]

>>10439201
>Senator Cola
not as good as Daddy Yes

[Anonymous No.10440529]

>>10438435
Unrelated and different anon, but I did almost the exact same thing! I went from 185 pounds to 165 pounds in 2 months. Now I'm just counting calories to maintain my weight. A big part of me wants to go back to the keto diet and get down to 150 pounds but idk

[Anonymous No.10440558]

>>10435502
Type 1 diabetic laying in bed eating Cadbury creme eggs drinking Gatorade. Just accept your fate

[Anonymous No.10440560]

>>10439350
I don't even understand how anyone could deny that pharmaceutical companies are a government-sponsored trust. The FDA is always so blatant about it.

[Anonymous No.10440603]

>>10437640
237 ng/dl is not lower than a female, dumbass
don't get me wrong though keto is still retarded

[Anonymous No.10441419]

>>10439365

[Anonymous No.10441423]

>>10437255
>i did warn her that this could be damaging to her liver
It's helped mine quite a lot. I went in to see my quack over what turned out to be a kidney stone, and while they were ultrasounding me the technician told me I had fatty liver disease. I ended up at another quack a few weeks after that who told me I was diabetic. I went on keto about a week later. My liver is much better, my cholesterol levels are waaaaaaaay down (35 points lower), and my A1C is now normal. Also, I haven't had any kidney stones since going on keto, contrary to what the vegans keep shitting up threads with.

>>10438808
MAGA, me droogies.

[Anonymous No.10441427]

>>10437745
>Certified nutritionist
I myself am a registered thaumaturgist, pleased to meet you fellow professional incompetent.

[Anonymous No.10441430]

i know a dumb bitch who does this diet. she eats like 2 pounds of cheese along with her beef and wonders why she wont lose weight with it

[Anonymous No.10441446]

>>10435502
Keto is literally a diet for diabetic people so at least you'll be fine

Were you just in denial before, fatty? Or what?

[Anonymous No.10441449]

>>10438998
Why is there so many knockoffs of this, it taste terrible to me.

[Anonymous No.10441452]

>>10437777
sounds like you've got a shitty liver, ate bad fats, and didnt excersize

Doctors are all so fucking retarded

[Anonymous No.10441458]

>>10441427
>I myself am a registered thaumaturgist

[Anonymous No.10441726]

>>10437074
yo do you have a CGM + Pump yet? I'm going to ask my endo for the scripts at my next visit and I don't know which ones are the popular/good brands are.

[Anonymous No.10441940]

>>10441430
if that's all she's eating, sounds like she ISN'T doing the diet. retard.

[Anonymous No.10443639]

>>10438312
Yes you can. As i said the mechanisma behind this are still not known. Even though its rare there have been cases. Because of this the equivalent of the fda in my country discourages people with type 1 to have a ketonic diet. I got type 1 four years ago so i had ro read up

[Anonymous No.10443706]

>>10435502

Concerning your image.

You are suppose to eat your green and healthy carbs (limited ofc) in ketos, not only meat and fats. That's the mistake many make, probably lazy or haven't done their research.

[Anonymous No.10443722]

>>10435833
There are studies that say red meat can cause colon cancer, but you are mostly lying.

[Anonymous No.10443744]

>>10438876
um no, /pol/ IS reddit

[Anonymous No.10443753]

>>10435898
You were young, so in your case it was definitely genetic/biological; but cancer in adults is more than not cause by life style (diet included). We eat a lot of processed food now, it's fucking with our body. The industry has a monopoly, so the only way to try to escape is by cooking most everything by scratch.

[Anonymous No.10443764]

>>10439201
Bingo. for the /pol/la/ck/s here, T1D seems to primarily impact Northern European males, especially in the past 70 years. Make of that what you will.

[Anonymous No.10443796]

>>10438998
>Daddy Yes
Fuck

[Anonymous No.10443797]

>>10443764
its da joooos with their chemtrails and flouride and vaccines

[Anonymous No.10443834]

>>10443797
I wouldn't be so quick to name a specific culprit, but it is certainly another reason to reexamine our priorities as "modern" societies. Who nose, maybe it is orchestrated, there are certainly a lot of Cohencidences to take into consideration.

[Anonymous No.10443963]

>>10441423
>fatty liver
That's suddenly become the new med pirate diagnosis. Everyone I know who has had an abdominal ultrasound in the last couple years, even those who don't drink, are being diagnosed with fatty livers. Of course there's no (((pharma company))) that came out with treatments for it recently, *cough*.

[Anonymous No.10443979]

>>10437745
>Certified nutritionist and professional fitness trainer here
God forbid science proves keto works, you would lose your job.

[Anonymous No.10444758]

>>10438327
>because you can lose like 20 pounds in a month doing keto

[Anonymous No.10444776]

>>10444758
he's not wrong, but it's just water weight being lost in the first month.

[Anonymous No.10444794]

>>10435593
carbs dont give you diabetes. durianrider literally pours half a bag of sugar on his cereal. 3000 kcals of sugar in a sitting. he doesnt have diabetes. but fat eaters do.

carb the fuck up and go vegan

[Anonymous No.10444810]

>>10444794
>MUH ECELEB HUHUH GO VEGAN
nice bait, i'm actually upset.

[Anonymous No.10445071]

>>10441726
No, sorry. I spend most of my days naked and covered with mud, so the tech would be wasted on me. I was reading an article recently about someone who programmed the two with a microcontroller to make a fully automatic system. I would look that up and copy what those people are using.