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Where did is all go wrong bros?
>Cost $100,000
>Makes burgers one way and apparently too salty
>Drops shit
>Scrapped after 1 day
Good night sweet prince

>> No.10412414

>>10412369
are you talking about robots or children?

>> No.10412423
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>>10412369
>When your 1 day old infant oversalts your burger

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>>10412369
It is just a repurposed 6-axis robot arm. There are all manner of things they get used for. Some turn out to be good ideas and some not.

>> No.10412922

>>10412434
post video too lazy to type it out

>> No.10412953

>>10412369
Go read about the earliest chess AIs. They were considered a joke and even bad human players could beat them easily.
Fast-forward to 2018 and a whole slew of chess playing AIs have achieved an ELO rating comfortably greater than 3,000 (even the greatest human chess grandmasters have never come close to breaking 3,000).

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>>10412953

They're vulnerable to anti-AI tactics which push them into or pull them out of certain "books". Once you lose the AI it's like standing behind a turret in portal.

>Where did you go?
>Could you come over...here?

If the programmer tries to respond this turns into a runaway mess with games that don't resemble human chess but are nothing but strings of attempts to open and close books. The future doesn't look like AIs being superior to humans, it looks like humans attacking each other with AIs, it looks like rooms full of machines running AIs attacking other simulated AIs to develop 15,000 miles of spaghetti code that represents an evolved solution but can't be consumed by a human in any relevant timescale.

>> No.10413579

>>10413489
>fleshy being says nervously for the 20095th time this millenium

>> No.10413590

>>10412953
>Fast forward to 2018
Nigger computers have completed perfected chess since 1996, and were nearly-impossible to defeat well before that.

>> No.10413613

>>10412953
>>10413489
>>10413590
>>10413579
big difference between AI code moving digital pieces around versus a fucking a robot having to use mechanical functions to move physical objects around in 3D space under time constraints. a human can do basic shit like flip burgers and sort boxes fast, the problem is when niggers and mexicans are hired and do poor-quality work due to laziness. so the attempt to use robots in business situations is to minimize reliance on low-paid low-skill workers who tend to be the least reliable and most prone to fucking up due to human error. but if you pay them correctly and treat them with dignity the human workers can provide profitable service...the best example i can think of is in-n-out...but that's one of the very rarest places where the business pays its employees a decent wage, and has streamlined the process. even though their kitchen is packed you can just see how efficiently everyone works together. also note significant lack of snarky nigs and mexicans employed at in-n-out.

>> No.10413871

https://www.livescience.com/61994-flippy-burger-flipping-robot-flops.html
This is saying it's due to the robot grilling more burgers than the staff could assemble. For real or PR talk?

I don't see a storage/waiting area for the raw food so they must have a human placing the food on the grill, meaning you can control the output that way without even touching the software.

>> No.10414270

>>10413613
>and mexicans
can tell you have zero experience in kitchens. even at upscale restaurants the BoH is usually a bunch of beaners. Head chefs tend to be a mixed bag, often white American or Europeans but also often beaners too. Worked at multiple places considered "gourmet" and high end in both Vegas and Ft Lauderdale and one consistency was that everyone except me spoke Spanish most of the time.

>> No.10415061

>>10412434
>>10412922
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9P_Ntr4r5kw
not really sure how he intended to have sex with it but it appears that later on in other videos he gave it a saw

>> No.10415072

>>10413613
>a regional burger chain from Los Angeles is fine dining
This is why socal is still flyover land

>> No.10415102

>>10414270
The average 4channer's "restaurant" experience is limited to Taco Bell and McDonalds. Most of the spergs here couldn't handle an actual fine dining restaurant.

>> No.10415139

>>10414270
>Worked at multiple places considered "gourmet" and high end in both Vegas and Ft Lauderdale and one consistency was that everyone except me spoke Spanish most of the time.
>hurr, I work in a wealthy high hispsnic area therefore everyone's just exaggerating their gripes with spics
I don't doubt you've worked with good people but
http://fox13now.com/2014/08/13/police-highly-toxic-substance-found-in-restaurants-tea-woman-in-critical-condition/
The worker was hispanic and couldn't read English. Spics are some of the worst at not washing their hands either, despite the many signs in both languages so they can't use that as an excuse anymore.
>>10415102
Is that why even dine-ins are hiring illiterate bums off the street?

>> No.10415172

>>10415139
I work in construction. Many of the Mexicans are illiterate in both English and Spanish. not saying they don't know to wash their hands, they're probably just lazy

>> No.10415190

>>10412953
Magmeme has 2950 ELO in blitz.

>> No.10415191

>>10413489
No you idiot, you don't get an ELO that high by being vulnerable to known tricks.

>> No.10415200

>>10413590
Saying they're effectively unbeatable today doesn't imply today is when they became unbeatable. Learn to read.

>> No.10415204

>>10413489
AI is actually way more creative than human chess masters and chess masters use computers to innovate new lines.

>> No.10415411

>>10412369
Mech Eng Fag here. This entire thing is ridiculous on several levels. First, this is typical over-engineering for a simple task, these are the people that never leave the design room. A 6-axis robot is only really needed when you need complex movements. Just because you can make the robot use all the axes to flip a burger doesn't mean it needs them, the videos show it doing a very small range of movements. You want to perfectly cook the burgers? Put them on a conveyor through an oven. Have another one set for chicken and a toaster on top for the buns. Employee drops the patty in and can go get fries or do whatever while the burger cooks. Fuck it, you really want to keep the griddle? Fine, build a small gantry over the griddle, it can even have the tool changer so it can clean the griddle and switch spatulas. Can probably do this for less than $25k.

Don't get me started on "working alongside humans." I don't care what kind of laser gates it has around it, they put these things in enclosures for a reason and people still get crushed.

>> No.10415465

>>10415411
Another mech E here. I agree with your assessment, but you might be leaving out one factor: It might have been cheaper, faster, or easier to re-purpose a common industrial robot than it would be to custom build a different sort of setup. Not to mention this thing seems to be designed to be a simple retrofit-add to a standard griddle, rather than something that requires a restaurant to remove the griddle and replace it with a different machine. I would imagine that being able to remove the robot and still operate the griddle manually in the case of a malfunction would be an important factor.

>> No.10415559

>>10415465
It looks like it's an off the shelf arm, there's a shot of some Fanuc arms in one of the videos. My guess is the money is being spent on the software to track the food. At work we're dealing with a company to get a 6-axis waterjet to cut our parts (it will never be cost-effective, but that's a different thread). Most of the difficulties come from the absurd requirement that the robot automatically detect a part and align the CNC program to it as opposed to having an operator tell it "start here".

My idea for the gantry would be built over the existing griddle and park at the rear of the griddle so it would be out of the way when not in use. I think mounting the robot arm (and running power) in the middle of the kitchen is more intrusive. That thing is anchored to the floor, they're not going to be able to remove it very easily.

>> No.10415586

>>10415411
Isn't that literally Burger King's flame broiler?

>> No.10415625

>>10415586
Pretty much. Quiznos also has a small version they used to toast subs. No reason to reinvent the wheel.

>> No.10415642

>>10415139
>Never says "mexican" or "hispanic"
>Fox News
>Totally believable