/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10368799]

Is it really ethical to eat these things?

[Anonymous No.10368812]

>>10368799
Yes. They would eat us if given the chance, so it’s fine to eat them.

[Anonymous No.10368821]

>>10368799
Yes, ethics don't actually exist. Basically nothing exists. I feel that ethics exist but it doesn't mean they do.
>>10368812
But this.

[Anonymous No.10368830]

>>10368799
>Animals killed, shipped to supermarket
>No one buys because it's unethical, corpses thrown into the trash
>Less demand leads to widespread shutdown of farms, animals left to roam the wild
>Other animals without make-believe ethical quandaries eat them immediately
Really activated my hamhocks, thanks buddy

[Anonymous No.10368873]

>>10368799
i always wonder since reading "the wub" by philip k dick

[Anonymous No.10368884]

>>10368830
>make-believe
not true buddy these things are smart as fuck, smarter than dogs by a long shot. my hippie friend owns one and it can play a piano for fruity pebbles.

[Anonymous No.10368890]

>>10368799
Bacon is fucking amazing.
Nothing better than a bacon sandwich on a hangover.

[Anonymous No.10368894]

>>10368884
Just because something is smart doesn’t mean we shouldn’t eat it.

The worst argument is when people say “you can’t eat a dolphin, it’s a mammal!” So is a fucking cow...

[Anonymous No.10368898]

>>10368799
Nope, but they are tasty enough that I overlook ethics in their case.

[Anonymous No.10368906]

>>10368830

>eat them immediately

Feral pigs ain't nothing to fuck with. All they do is eat, fight and grow stronger. They're basically saiyans.

[Anonymous No.10368907]

>>10368894
>you can’t eat a dolphin, it’s a mammal!
i've never heard anyone use this argument, we shouldn't eat dorphins because they are genuinely smart, not just "i'll do a trick for a treat" type of thing. they pass the reflection test, have their own language and names for each other, and get suicidally depressed when alone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pcNerbml5E

[Anonymous No.10368934]

>>10368907
>we shouldn't eat dorphins because they are genuinely smart
Pigs are smarter, the only things keeping them under chimps is that they dont have fingers to grab things so the whole "tool" concept never really got there. Im 99% sure the reason we dont eat dolphins is that some species are on the endangered list

[Anonymous No.10368937]

>>10368799
it's ok to eat porkers, but I do look up where the meat is coming from and how they are treated. idc about any other animals but pigs shouldn't be treated like shit before they get slaughtered.

[Anonymous No.10368946]

>>10368934
>Pigs are smarter
Buddy, dolphins ARE smarter than chimps and only get edged out by gorillas in only some aspects.

[Anonymous No.10368956]

None of these cunts are sapient so have at it

[Anonymous No.10368957]

>>10368934
I don’t want to eat a dolphin because they are apparently fatty and oily. I can see why the japs love whale meat, but it ain’t for me. I couldn’t care less about an animal’s intelligence. You could teach a pig to speak English and have actual intelligent conversation and I would still eat it. The only animal I won’t eat is turtles and tortoises because they are my buddies. It’s not about ethics, I would just rather have them as a pet than food. Doesn’t mean I’m against others eating them.

[Anonymous No.10369040]

>>10368799
I'd eat your dogs straight out of your lawn if I need to
Fucking other animals other than human animals exists as a food.

[Anonymous No.10369054]

>>10368799
Fuck off mohommed

[Anonymous No.10369123]

Nothing reproduces faster in the wild than pigs not even rabbits. I say ship a bunch of pigs and rabbits to starving countries and let them run wild in those jungles. No more hungry people.

[Anonymous No.10369156]

>>10368799
its just nature bro

[Anonymous No.10369181]

Ship those hogs to Africa.

[Anonymous No.10369199]

>>10368799
white ppl? sure

[Anonymous No.10369429]

>>10368799
Animals don't think or have moral considerations, so they don't need rights.

[Anonymous No.10369450]

>>10369429
They do think, they just don't think about their own thoughts. And yes the latter is true.

[Anonymous No.10369458]

>>10369450
>>10369429
At least the moral part. They do need rights.

[Anonymous No.10369547]

As a side note, a large amount of shrimp from southeast asia is produced by slave labor, and the US imports 90% of its shrimp. Gotta love cheap shrimp though.

[Anonymous No.10369585]

>>10369450
No, they act upon their instincts, they can learn, but they don't have mind, they are not persons with will. They morally don't have rights, just like intricate robots don't.

[Anonymous No.10369614]

>>10368906

[Anonymous No.10369645]

>>10369585
Disagree, by the way scientists doubt we have free will. Look into it.

[Anonymous No.10369682]

>>10368799
eating cannot really be an ethical activity in terms of the actual consumption part, so not it is not ethical but it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.10369690]

>>10368799
God said we can eat animals so yes it is ethical. Fuck the obnoxious vegans who say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.10369705]

>>10368799
No, we should limit ourself to soy based meat replacements.

[Anonymous No.10369874]

I'd eat any animal besides elephants. They are more human than most humans.

[Anonymous No.10369956]

>>10368934
> the only things keeping them under chimps is that they dont have fingers

Youre right, if only pigs had flippers, then their potential would be unlocked!

[Anonymous No.10370031]

>>10369123
Rabbits are way faster tho

[Anonymous No.10370235]

>>10368799

Eating is all they are good for.

It's not like there is a huge demand for pig dairies to get pig milk to sell to consumers or to make pig ice cream or pig butter.

[Anonymous No.10371515]

>>10368873
The Wub wasn't the pig, you derp. The Wub was the entity that possessed the pig: that's the twist.

[Anonymous No.10371588]

>>10370235
>pig milk to sell to consumers or to make pig ice cream or pig butter.
Why does this disgust me so?

[Anonymous No.10371599]

>>10370031
Pigs are tastier, too.

[Anonymous No.10371607]

>>10369645
The free will debate has nothing to do with science, it's a philosophical debate.
t. stemfag

[Anonymous No.10371678]

>>10369645
Are you talking about scientists who believe in god and don’t believe in evolution? Because they aren’t real scientists.

[Anonymous No.10371878]

>>10368934
>Pig are smarter than dolphins, the only reason we don't consider them starter is because they don't have hands like dolphins.
Crows preplan a method for gaining food and use tools with there beaks, crows are smarter than Pigs.
Pigs are fucking disgusting animals and deserve to be treated as so.

[Anonymous No.10371883]

>>10368957
>Guy is buddies with a reptile
Must be the brain size in common that allows you to be friends with a cold blooded retard animal

[Anonymous No.10371901]

>>10369645
Is this quantum theory? Anyhow I'll wait for an actual pig scientist opinion before I stop eating his kind.

[Anonymous No.10371912]

if it's treated well and killed humanely then who gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.10371913]

>>10368812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyEBXTL1Y3U

[Anonymous No.10371938]

>>10371912
Are you fucking kidding me! Our activist group shut down a pig farm, when we raided we found out the pigs were killed by nutters with baseball bats and planks of wood. The whole industry is fucking evil.

[Anonymous No.10371947]

>>10371878
Who hurt you so bad? Where does all this hate come from?

[Anonymous No.10372130]

>>10371947
I was raped by a wild boar as a child

[Anonymous No.10372179]

>>10368821
>Basically nothing exists
wow ok edgelord
sometimes i forget what website im on

[Anonymous No.10372180]

>>10368799
There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism, or indeed at all.

[Anonymous No.10372187]

>>10372180

Ethicality can't exist without proper subjects, and the subject no longer exists in the current state of late capitalism. Saying that ethical consumption can't exist is just nihilism at best, but more likely nonsense.

[Anonymous No.10372191]

>>10372187
So just eat the pig if you want to, anon, but don't be a dick about it.

[Anonymous No.10372197]

>>10372191

That was my first post in this thread. How was I being a dick?

[Anonymous No.10372213]

>>10372197
That was a continuation of your post, aimed at the OP. You're not a dick and I'm sorry my post was so badly-written as to suggest that you were.

[Anonymous No.10372236]

>>10372213

Fair enough. I'm drunk and still believe I'm being unethical.

[Anonymous No.10372256]

>>10372187
>you are wrong because I say nonsense so you lose
canadian philosophie at its finest

[Anonymous No.10372274]

>>10372256

Kek. Not in the least bit Canadian, but I did briefly consider applying to the graduate philosophy program at University of Guelph.

[Anonymous No.10372496]

>>10368934
So if intelligence dictates what we can eat, are niggers fair game ?

[Anonymous No.10372508]

>>10371938
Who cares you fucking fruitcake ? Lmao

[Anonymous No.10372520]

>>10368799
yes, but it's not ethical to raise them industrially, so they turn sick, to put them on medication so at least some of the sick pull through, and to slaughter them under immense torture and stress so their meat tastes bad, and to refuse to eat the cheaper cuts so their sacrifice is in vain.

[Anonymous No.10372522]

>>10370235
>It's not like there is a huge demand for pig dairies to get pig milk to sell to consumers or to make pig ice cream or pig butter

Pig dairies don’t exist because it’s too much work. Teats are harder to get milk from than udders, and sows aren’t patient about getting milked. If someone came up with a milking machine that attached easily to their teats and that sows tolerated well, that would make pig milk available enough to create curiosity, and then possibly demand later on.

[Anonymous No.10372586]

>>10368799
There are 769 million pigs on earth. All of these pigs live because we raise them, feed them, treat them, cultivate them and ultimately eat them.

Without us, all of these pigs would have never lived and never experienced life. Without us their millions, billions and trillions of offspring will never live. And then some fucker like you comes along and wants to genocide virtually all of them because you feel bad about nature being violent? I say it is unethical not to eat them.

[Anonymous No.10372594]

Not really, but they're so delicious.
I think of pigs both as great pets and great food and I don't have a problem with that.

[Anonymous No.10372604]

>>10368799
yeah
the only reason human have rights is that humans are human and humans can afford to give themselves rights

[Anonymous No.10372605]

Eating it in unnecesary amounts(everyone does) is harmful for them and the enviroment, and us if you are a gluton with meat
Eggs are enough to get the protein and B12 you need

[Anonymous No.10372611]

>>10368907
>we shouldn't eat dorphins because they are genuinely smart
how smart the animal is doesnt matter

[Anonymous No.10372619]

>>10372611
Why not? If the intellect doesn't matter, then why not eat humans then?

[Anonymous No.10372620]

>>10372605
i eat a ton of fuckin meta, i eat a ton of vegetables too

[Anonymous No.10372633]

>>10372619
we dont eat the dumb animals because they are dumb and we dont avoid eating the smart animals because they are smart
thats fucking bullshit someone came up with years ago and it was repeated on tv
have you ever seen african trives hunt? there are videos on youtube, they kill everything on their path, cut it open and roas it right there
we eat chickens because chickens lay eggs and grow really fast plus we can make them reproduce nonstop
we eat cows because cows where really convinient too, they just brought some to america and conditions where so great for them they kept growing in numbers
i dont know why we started eating pigs, we probably domesticated them because we hunt them all the time but dam they taste good
i wish there was more variety but variety was never a priority back then
how smart animals are never played a factor

[Anonymous No.10372646]

>>10372633
Is and Ought are not the same anon. Just because we do something doesn't mean it is right.

The entire point of ethical discussions is to decide the rules of our conduct instead of acting however nature would make us act if we were just dumb animals with no capacity to reason.

[Anonymous No.10372653]

>>10368799
Ethics don't apply to eating, they only apply to killing. It is perfectly ethical to eat a dead person, it is not ethical to kill a living person.

[Anonymous No.10372657]

>>10369123
Is that you, Nicolás Maduro?

[Anonymous No.10372669]

>>10372633
>i dont know why we started eating pigs, we probably domesticated them because we hunt them all the time but dam they taste good
Spanish conquistadors brought them from Spain. Food on the ship and colony food.

[Anonymous No.10372671]

>>10372586
That's the dumbest argument I've ever seen. Causing something to exist is automatically doing it a favour? I eat pigs and I acknowledge that they don't want to be eaten. I don't have to tell myself retarded lies like this.
Stop eating meat if you can't do it without this kind of mental gymnastics.

[Anonymous No.10372681]

Eating them? Yes.
Killing them? No.

But you can't do one without the other.

[Anonymous No.10372689]

>>10368812
A two-year-old human would put dump poison in your coffee if given the chance. Fair game?

[Anonymous No.10372696]

>>10372689
I'd eat a nice plump kid, sure.
I'm pro choice too.

[Anonymous No.10372700]

>>10372646
>Is and Ought are not the same anon
then why is the argument always presented as
>we dont eat dolphins because they are smart [lie] so we shouldnt eat pigs

[Anonymous No.10372701]

>>10372586
I do kind of agree with this.

Vegans and vegetarians should eat meat simply so that the animals don't die in vain. Give the poor animal's life and death some meaning.

[Anonymous No.10372703]

>>10372671
Let's say you get murdered at 40. Would you rather not have lived at all?

[Anonymous No.10372706]

>>10372696
eEe
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[Anonymous No.10372726]

>>10372700
Because people are bad at arguing. The main reason why people stopped eating whales and related species is species conservation. Some cultures still do it though. Whale is popular in japan for instance. And there is no law against killing crows, despite them being as smart or even smarter than dolphins.

We clearly aren't protecting species with high intellect, though I would argue that we should do it.

[Anonymous No.10372738]

>>10372703
I don't think my life is comparable to that of a pig at a farm. For starters, a pig can't answer or even consider that question. Realistically, if I'm dead I'm dead and having never existed would be the same. I can only enjoy life as long as I'm here. I'm not missing out on it by having never been born. If I did it would mean the Catholics are right about wasting sperm being a sin.

>>10372706
It's not edgy. A 2-year-old kid isn't really smarter more aware of its own existence than a pig anyway. We freak out about killing and eating children because the parents don't want to lose them and because they can grow up to be useful adults. They're of no use at all at age 2.

[Anonymous No.10372739]

>>10372726
the reason we dont eat dlphins isnt ethical, its because historically there has never bee a point in which eating dolphins was convinient

[Anonymous No.10372742]

>>10372739
Not disagreeing with you

[Anonymous No.10372745]

>>10372726
the main reason why we stopped fishing whalles is because we found a better cheaper laternative
whats with all the historical revisionism? you dont get to lie about the past and them argue ethics

[Anonymous No.10372749]

>>10372745
Some countries are still doing it, so it clearly is still profitable.

[Anonymous No.10372756]

>>10372749
its profiabl in china where they have more people than ants and they belive eating whale oil makes you young

[Anonymous No.10372759]

>>10368799
>إِنَّمَا حَرَّمَ عَلَيْكُمُ الْمَيْتَةَ وَالدَّمَ وَلَحْمَ الْخِنزِيرِ وَمَا أُهِلَّ بِهِ لِغَيْرِ اللّهِ فَمَنِ اضْطُرَّ غَيْرَ بَاغٍ وَلاَ عَادٍ فَلا إِثْمَ عَلَيْهِ إِنَّ اللّهَ غَفُورٌ رَّحِيمٌ
He has only forbidden you what dies of itself, and blood, and flesh of swine, and that over which any other (name) than (that of) Allah has been invoked; but whoever is driven to necessity, not desiring, nor exceeding the limit, no sin shall be upon him; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Surah Al Baqarah (2:173).

According to Allah we cannot eat pork. That is all we need to know that this is unethical, because all ethics is driven from the merciful Allah.

[Anonymous No.10372760]

>>10372756
lol'd

this times a million


these are the same people who snort rhino horn and drink snake piss. logic doesn't enter into it

[Anonymous No.10372766]

>>10372759
>being this retarded

I know you're just shitposting, but having to acknowledge that lots of people all over the world actually believe this makes me irrationally angry

[Anonymous No.10372775]

>>10372756
It's actually illegal in china. You talk about historical revisionism, but you can't even google search your retarded argument before posting.

[Anonymous No.10372783]

>>10372775
>implying law has any meaning in such a hellhole

[Anonymous No.10372784]

>>10372775
>t's actually illegal in china
does that mean it doesnt happen?

[Anonymous No.10372787]

>>10372745
This guy gets it. The whaling industry was about whale oil, not meat.
And there are many kinds of whale by the way; not all of them are endangered. Japanese harvesting of minke whales is for example not endangering the species AT ALL. And yes, I know they do eat those whales, but that's really more of a byproduct of the whaling than the actual purpoise (heh) of it. Officially they harvest whales for research. Realistically they do it because it's a national tradition and they're not a bunch of cucks who let others tell them their culture isn't good enough. Europeans could learn from that.

[Anonymous No.10372794]

>>10372787
>minke whales
so they are the subway of japan

[Anonymous No.10372795]

>>10372784
>>10372783
>does that mean it doesnt happen?
It means your justification for it happening is fucking bullshit. There are nations where it is legal which are hunting way more whales and some of them are thinly populated and most of them have none of those stereotypical superstitions. So far every single argument you have made was fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.10372801]

>>10372795
>It means your justification for it happening is fucking bullshit
we dont fish whales where they arent profitable but we it where it is
wow, that was hard

[Anonymous No.10372802]

>>10372795
Even though murder is definitely illegal, it still happens. Do you think written law is the end of an issue? Laws are not magic spells that prevent something from happening.

[Anonymous No.10372820]

>>10372738
I think i just found desTINY a friend, although i think they'll disagree on what children are for, but if they bang their heads against it i'm sure they'll come to a conclusion that is even more abhorrent and post-modern.

[Anonymous No.10372835]

>>10372801
It would be profitable in most countries with access to the big oceans. Still it is banned in most countries.
The reason why it is banned is species conservation, like I have already said and which you failed to disprove with pants on head retarded arguments.

Besides that, you seem to think species conservation is just based on ideology and not also on cost benefit analyses. Destroying a species for short term profits is a bad economical decision. Reduced biodiversity and unstable food cycles cause more financial damage in the long run than there is short term profit in exterminating the species. Not to mention the value of the genetic potential of a living species.

>>10372802
I did not say that. Something being imperfect is not an argument against its existence. There are people who break the law, that doesn't mean the law does nothing. The nations that are allowed to hunt whales kill more whales than the rogue fishers from nations where it is banned.

[Anonymous No.10372868]

>>10372766
Why are atheists so angry? Revert my brother

[Anonymous No.10372870]

>>10372835
Again, retard; not all whales are endangered. And it being banned definitely doesn't mean there are hard scientific reasons for banning it. Many Western countries have shitloads of laws based entirely on bleeding heart feelgood bullshit. SOME whaling laws fall under that.

And "short term" profit is a perfectly fine economic decision in some cases. If I can live like a king from whaling but it means whales will die out in 100 years it really doesn't make my life any worse.

Genetic value? Species go extinct every single day, with no interference from humans.

You bring up nations that take part in legal whaling. Why don't you explain to all us stupid hicks how Japanese harvesting of minke whales is threatening the species?

[Anonymous No.10372913]

>>10372870
>And "short term" profit is a perfectly fine economic decision in some cases. If I can live like a king from whaling but it means whales will die out in 100 years it really doesn't make my life any worse.
So you basically admit that you only care about yourself? Why would anyone give a shit what you have to say?

>Genetic value? Species go extinct every single day, with no interference from humans.
Also a loss for us. But when a species naturally dies out it is usually not causing massive damage to ecosystems or reducing biodiversity.

>not all whales are endangered
>Why don't you explain to all us stupid hicks how Japanese harvesting of minke whales is threatening the species?
It isn't. That doesn't mean the hunting of endangered whale species should be legal. Which appears to be your argument?

[Anonymous No.10373035]

>>10372835
>The reason why it is banned is species conservation
no its not, we already went over this
it used to be really profitable
then it stopped being so profitable outside of asia
if its profitable now again then we should totally start doing it again

[Anonymous No.10373058]

yes just ask them first
special rule cause they're animals: no biting means yes
if they bite you eat them anyway cause they're dangerous

[Anonymous No.10373059]

>>10372913
>So you basically admit that you only care about yourself?
No. I'm not saying it's a good or ethical approach to business at all, retard. I'm saying that from a purely economical standpoint, which is what we were talking about, it works.
You really are fucking stupid, aren't you?

And no, I have not at any point argued for the harvesting of endangered whales. My point, posted several times now, is that there are many different species of whale and some of them can be hunted without endangering them. So outlawing all whaling for the sake of conservation is stupid, just like you.

Please get an adult to read and explain this post to you before replying again.

[Anonymous No.10373193]

>>10368799
no

[Anonymous No.10373535]

>>10373035
It is being done outside of asia. It is profitable outside of asia. Even for the sake of the argument, if we would assume that it would be only profitable in asia, then most asian countries are still not doing it. You don't know what you are talking about, we have been over this.

>then we should totally start doing it again
Thankfully you are not in charge, since you only care about your personal short term profit. Basically the worst person you could imagine to run any system.

>>10373059
>And "short term" profit is a perfectly fine economic decision in some cases. If I can live like a king from whaling but it means whales will die out in 100 years it really doesn't make my life any worse.

You can't weasel your way out of your own words. And it is only a good economical standpoint if your goal is maximizing your personal short term profit.

>My point, posted several times now, is that there are many different species of whale and some of them can be hunted without endangering them. So outlawing all whaling for the sake of conservation is stupid, just like you.
You introduced that point after the second tangent of yours. The original discussion was about whether intelligence of the animal is a relevant ethical point of consideration. You committed an is-ought fallacy which I explained to you and then you somehow ended up claiming that the reason why whaling is outlawed around the world in most countries is purely economic. Also an incredibly stupid statement, which you later contradicted yourself by claiming that the laws are most of the time based on bleeding heart liberal ideology, rather than rational self interest. Then you somehow tried to twist the discussion to be about whether non-threatened whale species should be free for hunting, which I never argued against, but you apparently lost track of your goal points along the way.

[Anonymous No.10373801]

>ethics

[Anonymous No.10373861]

>>10368799
Ethics are a social construct, so it doesn't matter.

[Anonymous No.10373896]

>>10373535
Why would I want to weasel out of it? I specified "economic" for a reason. Never said it was ethical.
You were supposed to get an adult to help you with that post, tardo.
And no, I did not introduce the whales after any other point. You seem to think this board only has two people on it.
I did not say "most laws" or "most of the time" either. I said some laws. And I said some whaling laws, not even all of them.
No, you never did specifically argue about minke whales. Instead, you seem to talk about whales like they are only one, endangered, species.

I'm running out of ways to call you a fucking idiot so I'll just stop bothering with you now. Feel free to embarrass yourself further, though.

[Anonymous No.10374047]

>>10368799
Depends on your ethics, obviously. If you think the suffering of animals other than humans is wrong, it's probably not ethical to consume meat, unless you think the enjoyment you get from eating meat outweighs their suffering. Factory farmed animals are basically tortured their entire existence until they're slaughtered for meat, so you'd have to weigh your enjoyment of meat pretty strongly.

[Anonymous No.10375134]

>>10368873
>>10371515
it's the ghost pig

[Anonymous No.10375217]

>>10368873
>>10371515
Maybe it was something like this
http://www.apa.org/monitor/2010/06/memory-transfer.aspx

tl;dr
They trained a worm to run a maze. Then ground up the worm and fed it to another worm. The new worm ran the maze more efficiently than other worms that had not eaten their trained brethren.

[Anonymous No.10375240]

>>10375217
that's pretty cool tbqh
if we can gain others memory through eating their brain..

[Anonymous No.10375287]

>>10375217
That was initially not reproducible so I thought it was bullshit but it looks like it might've been somewhat legit:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/12082445_RNAi_and_brain_function_Was_McConnell_on_the_right_track

>>10375240
It was more about RNA interference in long-term gene expression than some actual engram molecule, but it does seem to be verified in mice brain tissue as well to some extent.

[Anonymous No.10375924]

>>10372508
Certainly not your girlfriend or friends.

You have neither, that's why you micropenis murderer.

[Anonymous No.10376237]

>>10372759
allah literally says it's okay in moderation

[Anonymous No.10376468]

>>10368799
Is it really ethical to tax hardworking people and give the money to welfare negroes?

[Anonymous No.10376473]

>>10368906
The boar was a cult animal among the celts.

[Anonymous No.10376525]

I've got come pork chops and I don't know how I want to cook them. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.10376542]

>>10376525
Marinated in the come.

[Anonymous No.10376543]

>>10376542
I had that last night.

[Anonymous No.10376558]

>>10371607
But there is a pretty solid debate within neuroscience around how consciousness works. As we are able to map more of the brain to specific behaviours which had originally attributed to people actively making decisions, we have to then ask what we are really choosing to do, and how much we are slaves to our neurological makeup, responding in predetermined ways to stimuli. Essentially this is a debate around freewill.

[Anonymous No.10376688]

>>10372726
>there is no law against killing crows
Crows are protected under the federal Migratory Bird Treaty Act (MBTA). You can get an exemption if you kill them specifically in order to protect some other agricultural asset.

[Anonymous No.10376720]

>>10375217
>>10375287
Or it smelt tasted the other worms slime trail, also aren't worms Vegans?

[Anonymous No.10377369]

ham is the most over rated meat

>killing a smart species for shit taste

[Anonymous No.10377393]

>>10372759
and according to him you can also fly if you believe enough in it, so why don't you jump out of a window and fly.

[Anonymous No.10377403]

>>10375924
I'm not from some sissified western country like you. It's like /pol/ irl here.

[Anonymous No.10377409]

>>10372795
That's because those people eat whale meat. 99% of whale hunting was done for the oil.