/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.10294938]

Be in normal country
>Hello i'd like the $5 doller lunch
>Sure that'll be $5
Be in american
>Hello i'd like the $5 doller lunch
>Sure that'll be $6.27 plus tip

How do you put up with this, this is a real thing that happened to me btw.

[Anonymous No.10294945]

>>10294938
Anywhere with a 5 dollar lunch is probably not a place where you're expected to tip. A situation like your picture with counter service is for example, you're not expected to tip.

[Anonymous No.10294964]

>>10294945
No that's impossible are these people just working for free.

[Anonymous No.10294989]

>>10294964
They're paid an hourly wage.

[Anonymous No.10294990]

do people actually give tips in America? I find it hard to imagine niggers giving tips

[Anonymous No.10295199]

My friend once tipped a pizza guy $20, but then he ruined any karmic value by telling us about it. Canadian, by the way.

[Anonymous No.10295211]

>>10294990
You're absolutely right, blacks never tip, or if they do it's like $1-2 for a $50 meal

[Anonymous No.10295216]

>>10294938

[Anonymous No.10295220]

>>10294938
haven't ever given a tip unless the delivery driver was cute and i sure as shit don't tip 15% to waiters

[Anonymous No.10295240]

>>10295211
Brit here to ask stupid questions.
Whenever i see these threads americans say you tip people for their service, so why does the price of the meal come into the equation? Regardless of the type or price of the meal the service is still the same correct? Surely it'd make more sense to calculate a tip based off of how many people are dining or how many meals are served.

[Anonymous No.10295269]

>>10295240
Canadian here. I don't understand that mode of thinking either, even though it's commonplace here. Some places automatically add tip (they call it gratuity) if you have groups larger than a certain number (like 8 people).

[Anonymous No.10295287]

>>10295269
Gratuity is different than tipping, it’s basically an inconvenience fee

But when normally tipping you generally tip 15-20% of the total meals cost. 10 is for ultra cheapskates, 15 is ok, 20 is what most middle class people I know do.
It’s absolutely pointless, I don’t understand why it still exists as a tradition here. It’s understandable in higher class restaurants where the server may give more personal service but in general it’s ridiculous

[Anonymous No.10295317]

>>10295211
One area where I agree with blacks on. Tipping is a stupid custom that I hope we can get rid of one day.

>>10295287
>But when normally tipping you generally tip 15-20% of the total meals cost

I remember when it was 10-15%. In the near future you'll be considered a cheapskate for only tipping 20% and not 25%.

[Anonymous No.10295362]

The same reason why we get shot all the time - we're too stupid to figure it out

[Anonymous No.10295377]

>>10295240
This also puzzled me when it came to drinks. If I take two glasses of wine to my food, should it really equate to 5, 6 bucks of additional tips to the waiter?

[Anonymous No.10295386]

>>10294938
Be in normal country
>Have a good day at school sweetie!
>I'll try dad, love you!
Be in Bongistan
>Oi love try'n not offend our Muslim bruvvas today eh?
>Yes da'
>*gets dragged into 1000 girl rape ring*

How do you put up with this?

[Anonymous No.10295491]

>>10294938
In Brazil (at least in the state where i live) they just add 10% of the price as the tip and you have to go to the counter or talk with whoever gave you the recipt and say that you don't want to tip, it's not so bad

[Anonymous No.10295499]

>>10295240
It scales poorly but generally speaking a more expensive place also has better service

[Anonymous No.10295516]

>>10294938
I always just round my bill up to the next dollar
So most of my tips end up in the $0.67 area
It's not like they have to do anything difficult

[Anonymous No.10295530]

When did it become 20%?
>Tfw ive been unamerican and only tipping 10% for years

[Anonymous No.10295541]

>>10294938
Imagine being so assblasted you have to make America threads every day. Imagine how pathetic that person would have to be.

[Anonymous No.10295543]

>>10295530
I don't think there's an official tipping rate, but I know a lot of people tip 20%. The easy answer is just to push for tipped positions to get the same minimum wage as non-tipped so you don't feel guilted into tipping something like 20%.

[Anonymous No.10295546]

>>10294938
>giving customers prices without tax
How fucking stupid is this shit?
I WANT TO KNOW HOW MUCH I HAVE TO PAY FOR THE THING, NOT HOW MUCH IT WOULD POTENTIALLY COST IF THE GUBBERNMENT WAS NOT FUCKING ME OVER.

[Anonymous No.10295562]

>>10295546
That's why I love this local pizza joint that works the tax into their prices. Their 4 dollar slice is 4 dollars exactly.

[Anonymous No.10295570]

>>10295386
Why would you think OP is a bongistani?

[Anonymous No.10295586]

(((Normal))) countries don’t have tax? That’s a new one to me.

[Anonymous No.10295592]

>>10295562
>4 dollar slice

better be the size of a small child

[Anonymous No.10295593]

>>10295546
If I were to be naive and defend that I would say that it's because state sales taxes would vary the prices slightly and it allows national vendors to set universal prices on stuff they sell without worrying about taxes.

I'm confident though that it's just a precedent set to increase consumer prices in a bullshit way that isn't apparent when comparing goods. Kind of like how things cost $4.99 rather than just $5 even though there's virtually no difference. It's all marketing.

[Anonymous No.10295612]

>>10295287
>I don't understand why it still exists
>People who only tip $10 are cheap!
Let me into your thought process.

[Anonymous No.10295613]

>calculate price of product and let the vendor handle taxes
or
>calculate exact tax in every state for every product and keep it up to date all the time for no actual gain
wow why isn't tax included in your prices shitlord?

[Anonymous No.10295627]

>>10295613
>having different taxes between states
>having different taxes for different products
>having taxes change often enough for it to be a problem

[Anonymous No.10295632]

>>10295627
So? Only more reason to have the vendor handle it.

[Anonymous No.10295636]

>>10295240
Rule of thumb is a tip should be 15-20 percent the price of the meal.

[Anonymous No.10295642]

>>10295592
It's big yeah.

[Anonymous No.10295643]

>>10295632
I agree, I'm just contemplating outloud how fucked US tax codes are.

[Anonymous No.10295661]

>>10294938
nowhere has a 25% sales tax

[Anonymous No.10295686]

>>10294938
>normal
Hahahahahahaha let me guess, you think being normal is a good thing?

[Anonymous No.10295702]

>>10295586
Some states don't have sales tax either, it's pretty sweet. But we also aren't harboring 50million illegals... we earned our low cost of living.

[Anonymous No.10295707]

>>10295636
That's too fucking much. 10 is fine.

[Anonymous No.10295728]

>>10295702
Isn't there only like 4 or 5 states without sales tax though? One of them being Alaska anyway.

[Anonymous No.10295782]

>>10295702
I went to school in OR and the no sales tax was pretty nice, but they obviously make up for it in other ways, especially if you want to own property. Not sure what you think you’ve earned, or what illegals have to do with anything.

[Anonymous No.10295799]

>>10295317
>be american
>get shot
>tip shooter for excellent service

[Anonymous No.10295813]

>>10295586

[Anonymous No.10295818]

>>10295642
It's literally the size of a small child.

[Anonymous No.10295820]

>>10295642
56% the baby

[Anonymous No.10295981]

>>10295636
But why tho? if I order a $500 plate the tip is $75 to $100 and the waiter did a single trip to the kitchen with one plate, now if a family of four order some cheap 3 course meal and spends $400, the waiter would have to trave to travel 3 times to the kitchen and carry 4 plates each time instead of one, yet the tip would be $60 to $80, makes no sence to charge by the price of the meal there, am I making any sence?

[Anonymous No.10296212]

>>10295981
Don't fucking kid yourself, boyyo; you've never had a $500 meal in your life. Your meals probably cost that much after two months.

[Anonymous No.10296446]

>>10295981
Don't fucking kid yourself, boyyo; you've never had a $500 meal in your life. Your meals probably cost that much after two months.

[Anonymous No.10296537]

>>10294938

Be in superior America
>Hello i'd like the $5 dollar lunch
>Sure that'll be $5.30 with tax

Be in eurup
>Hello i'd like the €5 euro lunch
>Sure that'll be €5000.00 with sales tax, GST, carbon recovery tax, Muslim migrant housing tax, tv tax, LGBT sex change tax, Queen’s corgis tax, free speech tax and White privilege tax

[Anonymous No.10296676]

>>10294938
>Hello I'd like the equivalent $5 meal here in Europe
Yes that will be $5 for half a ham sandwich, a 4oz packet of crisps, and 8 oz of apple juice

>Hello I'd like a good old American $5 meal
Yes that will be $6.27 plus tip for 3 pancakes, 2 eggs, 4 rashers of bacon, hashbrowns, unlimited coffee, toast with jam and butter, and 2 sausage patties

I get the concept, the price says 5 so the amount that should be deducted from my wallet should be 5. Not a completely weird complaint. And tipping is a foreign concept but it ensures better service and you factor that into your price point. Instead of being culturally retarded, like how you don't randomly strike up a convo with a Finn or tell an Italian his mother sucks at cooking,.maybe learn about the culture you're traveling in before you embarrass yourself again fucking uncultured swine. It takes like 4 minutes not to fuck up ordering cappuccinos before 10 in Italy so learn how to tip in America

[Anonymous No.10296929]

>>10295546
>having money pre-stolen from you by your government for your convenience.

[Anonymous No.10296941]

>>10295707
If you're a Jew, yeah sure.

[Anonymous No.10296967]

>>10294990
>People
>Niggers
Answered your own question

[Anonymous No.10296969]

>>10296537
your joke would be funny but prices are always tax inclusive in europe so it makes no sense

[Anonymous No.10296976]

>>10296941
T. Lives on tips. You'll get 5% and you'll like it, bitch

[Anonymous No.10296977]

Is it common to pay for the meal with credit card but exclude the tip and leave a cash tip?

I've heard servers prefer this because they can dodge tax.

[Anonymous No.10296986]

>In recent years, some waiters and restaurants have suggested that 25% or even 30% is the proper gratuity level, and that a 20% tip, once considered generous, is just average today.

This is fucking ludicrous

[Anonymous No.10296987]

>>10296941
Your boss is the jew in refusing to properly pay me. Its not my fault you have a labour issue.

[Anonymous No.10296992]

>>10294938
>America is the only country on Earth that has taxes

[Anonymous No.10296998]

>>10296941
>>10296986
This is making me not want to eat out ever again, I always tip 10% and all this time they have probably thought I'm a cheap piece of shit. Well fuck that.

[Anonymous No.10297009]

So if I tip 10 dollars on a 50 dollar meal that's not enough? The service industry can seriously eat shit. These assholes pull in like 200 dollars an hour on tips.

[Anonymous No.10297011]

>>10296977
Yes, that's very common. And like you said, servers prefer it because they don't have to report it. I still mostly tip with my card because I don't carry a lot of cash on me or enough to make change.

I don't see why europoors make such a big deal about tipping. I normally average 20% for good service. At my regular bar k tip 30% to my best bartender because she always hooks me up and puts up with all my bullshit. You get what you pay for.

[Anonymous No.10297022]

>>10295981
yeah this is one thing I don't get. If we're all just paying these tips out of charity for the poor starving waiters, why should they make more money just because they work at an expensive restaurant? Those waiters make plenty of money and don't need my charity. When I pay $100 for a steak I tip 0. The god damned guy bringing me the steak is better dressed than I am, he should be tipping me.

[Anonymous No.10297029]

Actually in the normal country it's a $10 lunch and it's smaller than the $5 lunch in America because your prices include 30% VAT + mandatory refugee resettlement contribution.

[Anonymous No.10297036]

>>10294938
Things are different in different countries. Go figure.

[Anonymous No.10297040]

>>10297022
I don't agree with tipping zero but you're right, man. It's totally fucked. Bar tenders are also rolling in cash. They earn more than fucking lawyers and engineers.

[Anonymous No.10297042]

>>10295702
>he thinks no sales tax is a good thing

Underage detected. The best states actually have sales tax, but they have no state or local income tax. Income tax is a lot more than sales tax.

[Anonymous No.10297059]

>>10294945
There's literally a tip jar at everything. You might not have noticed it. It's usually empty, too, and when you do tip it almost shocks them.

[Anonymous No.10297071]

>>10297059
It shocks them because you're not actually expected to tip. It's how tips should be done, only if you feel like it and only if you've received exceptional service. Not this "tip or you're literally the devil" nonsense you get in sit-down restaurants.

[Anonymous No.10297076]

>>10295530
Seriously bro I feel you. I feel super disillusioned and guilty now
I might as well have been tipping zero apparently.

Fuck society.

[Anonymous No.10297084]

>>10297042
Also property tax coming from people I've known in New Hampshire.

[Anonymous No.10297095]

>>10295211
So why are you guys always saying niggers are dumb? It sounds like they're smarter than the rest of you.

[Anonymous No.10297104]

>>10297042
You didn't disprove my main point though, faggot. We have low cost of living. You and your fellow calimexicans however pay 3,000 a month to rent studio apartments.

[Anonymous No.10297110]

>>10297071
I hear ya.

[Anonymous No.10297148]

All I can think about now is how many lovely waitresses think I'm cheap, when I thought I was giving a proper tip. Feels bad.

[Anonymous No.10297306]

>>10296676
>4 rashers of bacon
What is a rasher? One tiny piece?

[Anonymous No.10297342]

>>10295546
There's no federal sales taxes. It's determined by state, county, and city. It's infinitely easier to calculate sales tax at the cash register. Especially since certain items may be sales tax exempt. It's also easier to get people to spend more since most people don't factor sales taxes when shopping.

[Anonymous No.10297376]

>>10297104
Anon, states trick you when they offer no sales, income or property taxes. Take Texas for example. No income taxes but their property taxes are high.

States just shift the responsibility of taxes between the population. Business can take the hit, the general population can take the hit or property owners can take the hit.

[Anonymous No.10297557]

>>10294938
>be ESL

[Anonymous No.10297575]

>>10296986
20% became the new norm, so naturally those with an entitlement problem will expect more. Unless you go to a high end restaurant, it's no longer worth sitting down to eat. Most places just reheat frozen food anyway

[Anonymous No.10298853]

bump

[Anonymous No.10299174]

>>10295612
>10% = $10
Wow.

[Anonymous No.10299206]

>>10297059
Try this... when they say yes, what can I get you... you say oh, this is for you, show them the tip, and drop in the jar. Then place your order to the now smiling worker.

[Anonymous No.10299223]

I don't know if it is because of tipping but American waiters made me feel uncomfortable.
They kept asking me about my day and referring me by my name (sometimes through reading it from my credit card). It's their way of being polite I guess but it's certainly a culture shock from European or Asian perspective.

[Anonymous No.10299303]

>>10299223
Just the smarmy fake ass social conventions the boomer generation somehow enjoyed. You can nip it in the bud by just cutting them off and telling them, "Look, nix the smarmy bullshit and just serve my food and drinks effeciently. I do not want social interaction with you. Got it?"

[Anonymous No.10299348]

>>10299303
Youd have to think up a better way of wording that however, unless you want to come of as a total, *total* tool

[Anonymous No.10299396]

Server, here
Common practice is that the expected tip should be ~25% even if the server is bad. We have mouths to feed and if you don’t tip, you’re a piece of shit and I’m going to spit in your food

[Anonymous No.10299612]

>>10299396
>25% even if the server is bad

[Anonymous No.10300007]

>>10299396
Obvious fake, but I'm going to respond seriously as I know there are actual servers who think like this.

You should be lucky to receive any tip at all. Your work requires no skill, your easily replaceable, and if you have mouths to feed then learn some marketable skills and get a better job.

[Anonymous No.10300492]

>>10294938
well thats local government. no sales tax in the normal hard working states, only the socialist utopia™ do you pay tax on goods.

[Anonymous No.10300510]

>>10295593
It's this. Sales tax often varies by county too.