Vegan & Vegetarian

[Anonymous No.10285630]

I haven't seen any of these threads around here. I don't know what 4chan in general thinks of vegans and vegetarians or those that, in general, try not to consume products of animal origin, but here goes:

>Lentils or beans
>General opinion on avocado
>General opinion on mushrooms
>What did you eat this morning
>How to not die of malnutrition by eating only stuff that doesn't come from animals
>General cooking tips for eating vegan or vegetarian
>What to avoid

I am looking for some 4chan-like insight into what a vegan is supposed to eat
>inb4 fpbp
>inb4 fp is eat meat

[Anonymous No.10285683]

>Beans, but it's a close call.
>Good in moderation.
>Favorable.
>Leftover pasta fagioli from yesterday.
>Take B12 pills.
>Don't try to replicate your favorite meat-based dishes with vegan/vegetarian substitutes. Instead of fake meat + two sides, focus on one-pot meals, bowls, stews, curries, perhaps accompanied by rice or another carb.
>See above.

[Anonymous No.10285695]

>I haven't seen any of these threads around here

Dumbfuck newfag.

I’m not vegan, but I cook for one sometimes. Right now I’m eating some black beans with coconut rice that tastes great, though would have been better with some ham in the beans.

>General opinion on mushrooms

Fantastic. The best food. Eat lots of them.

[Anonymous No.10285739]

avoid fake meats, they're spitting in your face and if you want to eat meat bad enough to degrade yourself like that you should just do it

[Anonymous No.10285753]

avoid processed shit like vegetarian hot dogs, just enjoy whatever you like

I went from nearly obese to normal BMI and I've never felt better since going vegetarian, just ate what I liked to eat and avoided sweets, now ill try to cut off eggs and dairy too, especially dairy to see if it will help me with back acne and shit

[Anonymous No.10285785]

>>10285695
I'm a newfag. I admit I've never been on /ck/ before, I mostly browse /fa/ and /lit/, sorry.
Anyway a quick catalogue search did not reveal anything.
>rice
Yes, I avoid rice like leper because I don't know how to cook it. I always mess something up and it burns. Meh.
>mushrooms
What is your HONEST opinion on canned shrooms?

>>10285683
redpill me on b12

>>10285739
So I should literally avoid the soy meme. Got it, I never was a big fan of soy anyway, never liked the fakeness of it.

[Anonymous No.10285814]

>>10285785
Just buy a rice cooker. Even a cheap one will do. You can use them for things besides rice.

>What is your HONEST opinion on canned shrooms?

Not as good as fresh or rehydrated dried mushrooms, but better than no mushrooms at all.

[Anonymous No.10285846]

>>10285630
If you're vegan, eat lots of yeast products like slow-fermented bread, unfiltered beer, nutritional yeast (this one is key, tastes like cheese and is LOADED with B-complex vitamins), Marmite, etc.

If you're vegetarian, just find a way to work 1-2 eggs per day into your diet and you'll be fine from a B vitamin perspective. Most modern people are not even close to being malnourished from a protein standpoint so I honestly wouldn't worry about it.

>>10285739
This, fake meats are some of the worst industrial trash you can put into your body, as is fake dairy like Daiya. Tofu is also trash in the sense that it has almost no trace nutrients in it, it's just a brick of protein. Tempeh is a far superior food in all aspects.

[Anonymous No.10285867]

>>10285785
>redpill me on b12
You MUST have it, or you'll become very weak and then die. Vegan B12 can only be obtained by taking a supplement or eating foods with large amounts of microorganisms in them, see:>>10285846

Otherwise, it can only be obtained from meat.

[Anonymous No.10285870]

>>10285739
Who gives a fuck? Don’t eat them because they taste like shit

[Anonymous No.10285879]

>>10285870
I eat meat regularly but Quorn is damn tasty apart from the fact it's shit for you and devoid of all nutrition

[Anonymous No.10285924]

>>10285785
B12 deficiency leads to Anemia and neuronal damage, but your current reserves should last you a couple of years.

[Anonymous No.10285942]

>>10285879
Quorn is the least meaty and least tasty of the meat substitutes

[Anonymous No.10286000]

>>10285924
>>10285867
Thank you. I am vegan but I am not an insufferable little prick (as is the norm with these people, trust me I know). Just yesterday was a colleague of mine's birthday and they served pizza at work, full on attack pizza with meat and cheese, and while I didn't eat much, I never refused.
That means a few times a year I will eat meat and cheese due to important birthdays and stuff + I never say no to my host no matter what. It's a thing of etiquette and good behaviour.

>>10285846
Yes, I do enjoy unfiltered beer and I drink one perhaps once a week at least. Even normal beer I enjoy a lot.
So blue / mold cheese also stacks b12? If I am to eat some cheese, it's always mold cheese. My favourite.

>>10285814
I asked because caned mushrooms is simply the cheapest way to get a steady supply of shrooms into my kitchen. Fresh shrooms just shrink so hard when cooked, it's not even funny.

Anyway I have a few more questions. I feel like I'm always eating too little. Not that I'm not getting full / satiated, but I feel like what I eat lacks bulk for my stomach to digest. I have a chronic fear of getting stomach ulcer (my dad has it). What should I bulk with? I can't eat beans 24/7 3 meals a day.

[Anonymous No.10286065]

>>10286000
Dairy products in general are pretty rich in B12, yeah. If you're only vegetarian and are eating milk products + eggs you should have no problems with a deficiency.

[Anonymous No.10286133]

>>10285785
You can also just use instant rice. In my country pretty much all supermarket rice is 8 minute rice (we are all terrible cooks). Assuming you can boil water it's hard to fuck up.

[Anonymous No.10286161]

>>10286133
>it's hard to fuck up
You are severely overestimating my cooking capabilities.

>>10286065
I'm full vegan, as I I don't ever use animal products if I can help it (leather and fur included). As of late I have become quite paranoid that people called me sickly / pale, which is why I made this thread in the first place. I want to eat right and not die at 30 because I forgot b12, for example.

[Anonymous No.10286168]

>>10285630
I think it’s fine if a person doesn’t want to consume animals, but they need to fuck off trying to get others to adopt their ideals.

[Anonymous No.10286179]

don't let your dreams become memes vegan-kun

[Anonymous No.10286238]

>>10286168
I'm never doing that. I think a person shows a lack of education when they're trying to impose ANYTHING they deem "correct" onto others, be it vegan, or eating meat, or not drinking alcohol, or whatever lifestyle they chose.
I am not consuming animal products for my own reasons (mostly spiritual in nature but also to remove body odour) and my reasons are my very own. Telling someone to go vegan is like trying to convince them that my favorite colour is the objective best colour.

>>10286179
what do you mean?

[Anonymous No.10286293]

>>10286161
>You are severely overestimating my cooking capabilities.

Throw instant rice in plenty of boiling water, wait for timer to ring, drain. Comes out decent every time. It's not "proper" rice, but it's perfectly edible (I generally like Pandan 8 minute rice).

>>10286161
You could replace part of your diet with Huel (or Soylent I guess, but I prefer oats to soy) if you're scared of deficiencies. It's complete.

[Anonymous No.10286331]

>>10286238
like don't get caught up in advertising instead of objectivity

[Anonymous No.10287466]

Just switched to a vegan diet in the last couple weeks after trying tons of other diets. Low carb definitely helped me lose weight but was a bit difficult to keep up with and often felt pretty weak.
Honestly a vegan diet is the easiest diet I've ever tried and am still losing weight.
Pretty much as long as you're eating healthy foods and not too many grains just eat as much as you can and you'll be golden.
I recommend looking into the Nutritarian diet plan. Maybe you won't be able to completely go for that but if you learn to center your diet around that you'll feel amazing.

[Anonymous No.10287735]

I made cheesecake out of cashews and silken tofu, with a date and oat crust.

[Anonymous No.10287741]

>>10287735

Pic is a seitan Greek lamb-style roast I made

[Anonymous No.10287751]

>>10287741

After roasting

[Anonymous No.10287757]

>>10287751

In a gyro

[Anonymous No.10287761]

>>10287735

Less healthy cheesecake, made of cashews, coconut cream, coconut oil, with a crispy toffee crust

[Anonymous No.10287769]

>>10287757
I'm staying away from oil myself but that looks incredible.

[Anonymous No.10287776]

>>10287761

Roasted rudabaga and parsnip potato chowder with seared, marinaded king oyster mushroom medallions and buttered pasta

[Anonymous No.10287781]

>>10287776

Wakame, miso, and sake marinaded green jackfruit ceviche

[Anonymous No.10288072]

>>10287735
>>10287741
>>10287751
>>10287757
>>10287761
>>10287776
>>10287781
All of these look amazing. Thanks for posting.

[Anonymous No.10288118]

I've been considering going vegan because I've developed a massive fear of food poisoning. It's pretty debilitating actually, I've been too scared to eat much lately. I should probably just see a therapist or something

[Anonymous No.10288140]

>>10288118
i know some people who've gotten food poisoning and from what they said, it sucked but then it was over. none of them died or had lasting issues. stare your fear right in its fucking face and eat something. keep staring it in the face. you can do it if you stick to it.

[Anonymous No.10288183]

>>10288140
My cousin got it recently and almost died, he apparently would have if he didn't get to the hospital fast enough. It doesn't take much to spook me, I have really bad anxiety issues. I'll probably get over the fear eventually.

[Anonymous No.10288194]

>>10285683
>Don't try to replicate your favorite meat-based dishes with vegan/vegetarian substitutes. Instead of fake meat + two sides, focus on one-pot meals, bowls, stews, curries, perhaps accompanied by rice or another carb.


This is what always kills me. My GF is Vegan and I just eat whatever I feel like, but if we go to a vegan or vegetarian place I hate it when the only options are replications of dishes that generally have meat and dairy. I get why lifetime vegans want this shit, I can eat a real Ruben though so I don't want one made out of firm tofu and cashew "cheese" sauce served on a dry flavorless roll.

I'll go to an Indian vegan place and annihilate some curries though. You don't need meat to make a dish tasty, but if you spend all your time trying to make a meatless version of a meat dish you are going to be forever disappointed.

[Anonymous No.10288199]

>>10288118
>>10288183
Go vegan. There's shit in basically all the meat we have and plus it'll help your immune system.

[Anonymous No.10288828]

>Lentils or beans
They're both good, i use red lentils for ragú and green lentils for mushroom sauces. Kidney beans for chilis
>General opinion on avocado
Great but expensive, look out for sales
>General opinion on mushrooms
Great
>What did you eat this morning
Oatmeal, 1 cup of oats, 1 cup almond milk, half cup water and let it cook on low heat until thicc. I usually add fruits, cinnamon and some sweetener
>How to not die of malnutrition by eating only stuff that doesn't come from animals
Eat balanced and take your B12
>General cooking tips for eating vegan or vegetarian
Use a nonstick pan
>What to avoid
Pseudoscience

[Anonymous No.10289125]

>>10285630
>I haven't seen any of these threads around here. I don't know what 4chan in general thinks of vegans and vegetarians
Fuck off and lurk more

[Anonymous No.10289153]

Fennel celeriac with orange and cashew crème fraîche
Made all from scratch today

[Anonymous No.10289302]

>>10287757

Another gyro, made with soy curls. The tzatziki is made with homemade strained soy yogurt.

[Anonymous No.10289305]

>>10289302

Batch of quinoa tabbouleh

[Anonymous No.10289311]

>>10289305

Roasted cauliflower and asparagus

[Anonymous No.10289318]

>>10289311

Sweet and sour popcorn cauliflower

[Anonymous No.10289331]

>>10289318

BBQ pulled king oyster mushroom sandwich

[Anonymous No.10289339]

>>10289331

Roasted cactus and vinegared okra, cornmeal and buttermilk breaded and deep fried

[Anonymous No.10289345]

>>10289339

Green lentil and yellow potato curry soup

[Anonymous No.10289356]

>>10289345

Bean chili, cornbread muffins, and breaded and fried tomatillo

[Anonymous No.10289359]

>>10289356
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.10289481]

>>10286000
if your host offers you a cockmeat sandwich you'll gobble that right up won't you?

fair weather vegans are so pathetic

[Anonymous No.10289501]

>>10285630
>I don't know what 4chan in general thinks of vegans and vegetarians or those that, in general, try not to consume products of animal origin
If they aren't smug assholes about it, then no one cares.

I use both.
Useful in certain dishes.
Lovely. I only avoid fishy ones.
Breakfast burrito.
Use supplements.
Fermentation is your friend. Making use of fermented ingredients can replace the savory flavors produced by meat.
Processed vegan/vegetarian food.

Vegans and vegetarians can eat whatever they want. I eat vegetarian roughly 3 nights a week to cut down on grocery cost, and I generally make hot salads, pasta, soups and curries on those nights. There's the occasional sandwich as well (a homemade vegieburger or a something involving portabello or eggplant). Eat whatever you want.

[Anonymous No.10289624]

>>10285785
>So I should literally avoid the soy meme.
Soy isn't terrible for you, but it needs to be used in moderation. Part of the problem is that everything has soy (or corn) in it. I enjoy tofu, but I don't eat it more than maybe once a week at most. I don't think of it as "fake" anything. It's just tofu.

>What is your HONEST opinion on canned shrooms?
I only keep them around in case I run out of the real stuff. Canned mushrooms don't have the same flavor or body as fresh, and fresh mushrooms add a body and richness to your cooking that you will be sorely lacking when you drop the meat.

[Anonymous No.10289679]

>>10285785

Soy is not 'fake', it is a legume. It can be used in 'fake' meat analogues, but yhays5 totally different from like edamame or tofu. Tofu itself is basically soy cheese, it is just soy beans blended with water, cooked, curdled, drained, and pressed.

Tofu is good if you know how to cook it. You almost want to use it like havarti in terms of cooking, if you get extra firm

[Anonymous No.10289799]

>>10289624
>Soy isn't terrible for you
ISHYGDDT

[Anonymous No.10289807]

>>10285630
>I am looking for some 4chan-like insight into what a vegan is supposed to eat

Meat, you fucking soy fag.

[Anonymous No.10289821]

>>10289799
The reason you're a "soyboy" isn't because you had some tofu once. It's because you sit on your lazy ass never exercising and listening to Jordan Peterson tell you in his fay Kermit voice how you're actually really manly, and the reason you keep getting cucked is because women just don't understand how masculine your soft ass is.

[Anonymous No.10289827]

>>10289799
> Being so brainrotted by dairy estrogen and meat growth hormone that you listen to random unreliable broscience instead of spending ten minutes on pubmed

[Anonymous No.10289837]

>>10285630
if I were vegan I'd kill myself and then eat myself to not be vegan anymore

>lentils
shit
>avocado
tastes good but bad for you
>mushrooms
god tier, healthy and tasty
>what did you eat
coffee with cream and sugar and short ribs
>how to not die of malnutrition
you don't. or alternatively take vitamins
>cooking tips
learn how to cook Indian food, also don't be vegan that's fucking retarded
>what to avoid
plant based diets

[Anonymous No.10289858]

>>10289837

> tfw my dad had nearly four digit triglycerides and LDL higher than the US is old, and the only reason he isn't dead is that he went on a whole foods ppant based diet that also cured his diabetes despite eating a lot of potatoes

[Anonymous No.10289882]

>>10289821
Jordan Peterson isn't terrible for you, but it needs to be used in moderation. Part of the problem is that everything has postmodernism (or cultural marxism) in it. I enjoy Jordan Peterson, but I don't watch it more than once a week at most. I don't think of it as "fake" anything. He's just an academic

[Anonymous No.10289883]

>>10289858
>my dad ate like a slob before
>now he's healthy because he no longer does

whatever, I mean I don't even care if people go vegan. It's kind of like homosexuality, just more stuff for me.

[Anonymous No.10289895]

>>10285630
We have these shitty food-hipster bait threads here every fucking day. Fuck off with your vegan shit, (you) soyboy!

[Anonymous No.10290104]

>>10285630
For me, it is the McSoylent. The cuckold's choice of meal replacement beverage.

[Anonymous No.10290185]

How do I eat less red lentils? I am fucking obsessed with them. I eat them 3 meals per day. Today:

Breakfast: Almond Milk poached Red Lentils on Toast with a grapefruit that I cut into segments, then I used the segments to scoop up lentils
Lunch: Red Lentil Sandwich, with a bag of chips that I opened, poured lentils into, then left to sit in the fridge at work
Dinner: 300g of dry red lentils cooked
Snack: As a snack I take individual cooked red lentils and cut open grapes, then force the lentils into the grapes and eat them

they are so fucking good but I am shitting 4 times a day

[Anonymous No.10290200]

>>10289883
So you’re a fat cocksucker regardless?

[Anonymous No.10290217]

>>10290185

I shit every two hours at work, it's glorious

Coworkers probably think im a chronic masturbator, but no, I'm just addcited to beans

[Anonymous No.10290350]

>>10285630
I'm on a no meat no dairy fast for lent. Been eating big portions of spinach and cabbage and bread. Lots of oats and barley as well. Fresh almond milk is fantastic. Turnips and potatoes have been good too. I eat vegetarian meals all the time, because I just like vegetables. Split pea porridge and lentils are usually a big part of my meals during the time but not so much this year. Im not worried about b12 because I eat meat on sundays

[Anonymous No.10290839]

>>10289481
it's a thing of etiquette and good behaviour (something 4chan sorely lacks, I forgot to mention)

[Anonymous No.10290842]

My local kroger has small avocados for 69 cents each and they are perfectly ripe

[Anonymous No.10290846]

>>10290217
>>10290185
kek

[Anonymous No.10291789]

>>10290217

The true virtue of a vegan diet: plentiful poops that clean up easy