/ck/ - Food & Cooking

[Anonymous No.17138274]

>It takes 10 years to become a master sushi chef

10 years to master putting raw fish on a clump of rice. Is there a greater culinary scam?

[Anonymous No.17138293]

>>17138274
You vastly underestimate how autistic nips are about the smallest details.

[Anonymous No.17138384]

>>17138293
omg, what details? Julianne some cucumber, chop raw fish, roll together in a rice bed. WTF.

i'll confess there is other prep we don't see, but like what?

[Anonymous No.17138388]

>>17138384
i think making the rice requires intense autism
something about not crushing the rice while tossing it with the seasoning

[Anonymous No.17138413]

>>17138388
hmm... ok, I can dig that. crushed rice is shit.

[Anonymous No.17138420]

>>17138274
watch
jiro dreams of sushi

mastery is something very difficult to obtain. even for something as simple as making a grilled cheese or a perfect fried egg

[Anonymous No.17139554]

>>17138384
why is japanese cuisine so hilariously bad?
the main staple dish of nipponland is sushi which is literally just fish on rice
their curry is just watered soup
ramen is just inferior version of authentic Chinese noodles
even instant noodles is taiwanese (Chinese) and not from japan

why could the nips not make a satisfactory cuisine?

[Anonymous No.17139593]

>>17138384
every single fish is different, to maximize flavor one must develop an incredible sensitivity to the minute differences between individual fish to adjust accordingly. it's like how a primitive hunter uses every sense simultaneously to track his prey. because modernity privileges the visual above the other senses it takes extensive training to regain full use of them

[Anonymous No.17139966]

>>17138274
it's not just that though is it? It's making so much other shit, making stocks, sauces, butchering the fish, ordering produce, knowing what to get, menu creation, having a rapport with suppliers, being responsible for hiring and training new staff, making staff rotas, making sure staff don't get stressed and top themselves, being autistic about rice, maintaining a consistent standard that people pay lots of money for. Loads of other shit.

[Anonymous No.17140059]

[Anonymous No.17140065]

>room temperature
>slimy
Something about this combo just sets off all the alarm bells in my brain. Sushi just seems gross to me.

[Anonymous No.17140146]

>>17139966
every chef knows how to do that stuff, sushi chefs are no different in that regard

[Anonymous No.17140164]

>>17138274
Your homemade sushi would probably look awful and taste mediocre at best

[Anonymous No.17140170]

Ive been living in japan for 6 years and if there's one thing I've learned, they can fuck around one pointless tasks endlessly.

It's an island with the most beautiful women on earth, yet the men managed to fuck that up.

[Anonymous No.17141367]

>>17140065
the fish isnt supposed to be slimy

[Anonymous No.17141388]

>>17138420
Have you seen the sequel?
"OBAMA-KUN PREASE NO!!"
Terrible.

[Anonymous No.17141393]

>>17138274
A lot of that time is perfecting your knife handling skills. If you fuck up slicing the fish, you ruin the texture.

[Anonymous No.17141422]

>>17141367
Nor is it supposed to be room temperature. The fish is supposed to be kept cold until just before slicing and serving.

[Anonymous No.17141473]

Same in French and Belgian traditionalist establishments. You're not allowed anywhere near the saucepan for the first 7 years.

The reasons are simple: produce changes with the seasons, different varieties taste very different, so do different parts of an animal or plant. Then there's the coming and going of other masters: in oil, vinegar, spice production, knife making, fishing, rice farming, pasta making... I'd say 10 years is too short.

>>17138420
Better yet, read his book. It's from '99 or so, way before the cooking and internet hypes.

[Anonymous No.17141488]

>>17141388
Why are americans so grotesque?
Why do they get so triggered by passion and dedication to a craft?

[Anonymous No.17142577]

>>17141473
It means that in 10 years, you will have acquired the minimum necessary skills.
In the case of Japanese cuisine, there are seven levels, and it is said that you can reach the third level in ten years.
However, depending on one's talent, there are some people who can reach the third level in five years.

[Anonymous No.17142628]

It's all a massive scam they use to trick BAKA GAIJIN into paying massive amounts of money. Sushi historically was a peasants food, it still is in a way. In Japan eating sushi is the equivalent of getting a sandwich from 7-11 or a mcchicken in america.

[Anonymous No.17142667]

>>17142628
> oh, someone was paid to make your food for you? you must be poor

[Anonymous No.17142693]

>>17138274
if they clean and process all the different fish and sealife from scratch I could believe it

[Anonymous No.17142745]

>>17142693
Takes not even a month in a professional kitchen to learn how to properly clean and process fish. I cannot believe the Japanese would be so stupid and inefficient when it comes to learning such basics.

[Anonymous No.17142753]

>>17138274
Try making sushi yourself and find out. There are a lot of things you have to do by feel and getting them wrong makes the sushi noticably worse.

Most traditionally "hard" recipes will turn out fine your first time if you can follow instructions. Like I've never had problems with croissants or macarons. If you have a thermometer basically any method of cooking protein is foolproof.

It took me at least a dozen attempts at making sushi before I felt like I was doing a consistantly good job and I was only using salmon and tuna.

[Anonymous No.17142760]

>>17142745
You can't master shit in a month. How is it different than any other trade? You learn in a couple years and then you work to master.

[Anonymous No.17142778]

>>17142760
>You can't master shit in a month
It's fucking fish, you moron. I 'mastered' filleting on my literal 3rd try at it. Have you never handled fish before? Get the fuck out of /ck/ you fucking retarded weeaboo shitstain who thinks cooking is some mythical procedure.

[Anonymous No.17142785]

>>17142778
arrogant cunt, easy on the lines

[Anonymous No.17142788]

>>17142778
>he didn't grind to lvl99 cooking
ngmi

[Anonymous No.17142801]

>>17138420
I finally watched it after seeing the memes all these years and it seems way more overrated than I thought before.

I'm sure the sushi is delicious but I fucking doubt it is remotely worthy of the mythical status attached to it.

[Anonymous No.17142806]

>>17142801
Dude, it takes 10 years to learn how to fillet a fish. Trust me. I watch ANIME.

[Anonymous No.17142816]

>>17142806
Yes

[Anonymous No.17142818]

>>17142778
I can literally hear all five of your chins bouncing as you sperg out, you haven't mastered shit

[Anonymous No.17142824]

>>17138420
no just watch some youtubes and you're le expert in no time. Fully harf of expertise is seeing someone really good doing it properly.

[Anonymous No.17142879]

>>17142818
>I can literally hear all five of your chins bouncing as you sperg out, you haven't mastered shit

[Anonymous No.17142895]

>>17140170
Fuck off but you're right about the autism

[Anonymous No.17142897]

>>17142879
I don't care about nip chicks, how can you clean fish if you can't even shitpost after how many months?

[Anonymous No.17142911]

>>17142778
You're right thats why weeaboos get mad at you

[Anonymous No.17142919]

>>17142911
Assblasted*

[Anonymous No.17142930]

>>17142897
You will never have a Japanese girlfriend

[Anonymous No.17144573]

>>17142745
Can I be like him in a month?
https://www.youtube.com/c/%E3%81%8B%E3%81%AD%E3%81%93/videos

[Anonymous No.17144658]

I would expect any head chef of a high end restaurant to have 10 years of experience regardless of what cuisine that restaurant serves.

[Anonymous No.17144685]

>>17139593
That is just mental masturbation. "Me eat fish a lot so me better at tasting than other grug, listen to how ME taste it other grugs!"

[Anonymous No.17144699]

>>17141422
Do you really think the tendie eating loser who thinks fresh fish is slimy knows that?

[Anonymous No.17144704]

>>17142778
You might have arrived at *your* maximum level of expertise, which seems pretty low overall, but I’m sure you know that. The true masters of any craft always know there’s room for improvement, with the try hard failures tell themselves they’ve mastered the art with only three fish kek

[Anonymous No.17144707]

>>17144685
>>17144704
You seem to be the racist, as is very common with your types. I simply don't give a shit about your fucking nations and don't want to visit them.
If you want to call me racist for disagreeing with you then you must have been shillary supporters since that's the best that they can do.
Are you still seething in your closets because Trump beat your annointed one?

[Anonymous No.17144723]

>>17144707
>talking about fish butchering
>same guy saying he’s a master after cutting three fish is the same guy still waving a trump flag
Why are you like this? No one brought politics into this except you, but now I get to call you a retarded zionist dicksucker trumpfaggot. Hold on let me predict your response: muh muh left wing tranny. Yep you learned your rëddit phrases really good, now go back to ptg you fucking retard loser no one likes you

[Anonymous No.17144737]

>>17144573
if you have the budget and access to weird fucking fish and then i don't see why not

[Anonymous No.17144753]

>>17139593
>to maximize flavor one must develop an incredible sensitivity to the minute differences between individual fish to adjust accordingly
Yeah but you're mostly feeding it to retards who probably eat McDonald's 4 times a week, they aren't gonna know the difference between turbo autismo sushi and something that came from a grocery store

[Anonymous No.17144769]

>>17144753
>>17144685
>>17144704
Thank you for clearing that up, Chang!
.05 Good Citizen points have been added to your social credit score. Please keep these anti-racist posts up and inform about the Glorious CCP! Our dear leader thanks you

[Anonymous No.17144772]

>>17144769
Back to rëddit trumpfaggot. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a tranny, Chinese, or whatever boogeyman lives in that pea brain

[Anonymous No.17144773]

>>17144685
>>17144753
a painter doesn't make a worse painting because he knows most of the people who see it won't get it. excellence is a worthy pursuit even in the total absence of an audience

[Anonymous No.17144777]

>>17139554
There he is. There he goes again. Look, everyone! He posted it once again! Isn't he just the funniest guy around?! Oh my God.

I can almost see your pathetic overweight frame glowing in the dark, lit by your computer screen which is the only source of light in your room, giggling like a like girl as you once again type your anti-Japanese post up and fill in the captcha. Or maybe you don't even fill in the captcha. Maybe you're such a disgusting NEET that you actually paid for a 4chan pass, so you just choose the picture. Oh, and we all know the picture. The "epic" picture of sushi, isn't it? I imagine you little shit laughing so hard as you click it that you drop your Doritos on the floor, but it's ok, your mother will clean it up in the morning. Oh, that's right. Did I fail to mention? You live with your mother. You are a fat fucking fuckup, she's probably so sick of you already. So sick of having to do everything for you all goddamn day, every day, for a grown man who spends all his time on 4chan posting about food. Just imagine this. She had you, and then she thought you were gonna be a scientist or an astronaut or something grand, and then you became a NEET. A pathetic /ck/ NEET. She probably cries herself to sleep everyday thinking about how bad it is and how she wishes she could just disappear. She can't even try to talk with you because all you say is "why is japanese cuisine so hilariously bad?" You've become a parody of your own self. And that's all you are. A sad little man laughing in the dark by himself as he prepares to indulge in the same old dance that he's done a million times now. And that's all you'll ever be.

Forever...

[Anonymous No.17144788]

>>17144769
you seem more like a fucking chinese immigrant than this guy considering how much youre clearly struggling with english reading comprehension. what part of any of this seems anti-racist to you

>>17144772
^^^ this

[Anonymous No.17144795]

>>17139554

>act like you understand japanese food enough to know its all shit
>only list sushi, japanese curry, and ramen

so what youre saying is youve only tried the shit that cute cosplayer girl you met in highschool dragged you around to try? obviously when you finally eat the food weeaboos have been hyping up to fucking ambrosia since middleschool youll be disappointed when its just normal fucking food.

idek why im arguing with you i literally see you sitting on your plateau of a flattened ass all day just spamming this on every vaguely relevant thread possible

[Anonymous No.17144820]

>>17140170
>It's an island with the most beautiful women on earth
I was with you there, anon, but no fucking way. Lived in and out of here for years, now pushing 7. Have Japanese wife and children, but in no way do the hottest women here measure up to the hottest Indonesians, Filipinas, or Thai women. Unless you like soulless skanks pigeon-walking through the streets clutching their brand bags.

[Anonymous No.17145339]

>what is japanese work ethic mixed with their corporate structure that is just modern feudalism

[Anonymous No.17145347]

>>17139554
This pasta fucking sucks and isn't funny. Why could anon not make a satisfactory shitpost?

[Anonymous No.17145350]

>>17141388
Based Norm joke poster

[Anonymous No.17145359]

>>17144769
>Can't even shitpost about the correct culture
>Defaults to politicfag bullshit despite the thread not being about that at all
You got fuckin told, weiner