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As in the previous threads, this is all about the fermentation, long term storage, curing, home hooch concocting, and the general discussion of the life force we breed into our food and drink stuffs--which makes them not only delicious, but pretty damn good for you too. The informational links are a growing dialogue, so maybe post a link to something you found overly useful or very interesting and it might find a home in the below. Let's learn together.

What is lacto fermenting?
https://www.culturesforhealth.com/learn/natural-fermentation/what-is-lacto-fermentation/

Beginner lacto fermentation recipes
https://www.thespruce.com/lacto-fermentation-fruit-and-vegetable-recipes-1327727
https://www.farmcurious.com/blogs/farmcurious/17599580-lacto-fermentation-recipes

Lacto fermentation brine calculator
http://www.pickl-it.com/blog/737/brine-calculator/

Fun fermenting YouTube Videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng2zOFADe0s&list=PLKtIunYVkv_S7LqWqRuGw1oz-1zG3dIL4 [Embed] [Embed] [Open]

Canning 101
http://www.simplebites.net/canning-101-the-basics/
http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/02/how-to-can-canning-pickling-preserving-ball-jars-materials-siphoning-recipes.html

Home brewing 101 & recipes
https://www.northernbrewer.com/learn/homebrewing-101/
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/homebrew-recipes/

Curing 101
https://melissaknorris.com/how-to-dry-cure-meat-at-home/
https://breakingmuscle.com/healthy-eating/home-curing-101-create-delicious-cured-meats-at-home

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>> No.9962221
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I went full german and made sauerkraut: white cabbage from my fathers garden, peppercorns, caraway seeds, juniper berries, bay leaves and mustard seed. It is starting to get the first bubbles now after like 2-3 days

sandwich baggy with water to keep everything down works perfectly. I'm going to do this for all ferments now.

>> No.9962243

>>9962221
i just dont want any plastic or iron in my pots.
maybe il go collect the bottoms of wine bottles to use. maybe that will work

>> No.9962273

>>9962243
Yeah I first had a jar in it but I was afraid some of the glass would chip because it was cramped in there. They are food grade sandwich bags so it should be alright, I work in a lab so I probably expose myself to worse on a daily basis

>> No.9962673

Anyone have experience with sauerkraut from non white cabbage?

>> No.9963977

One, possibly two of my hot sauce ferments went bad this most recent batch. Very disappointed. Not sure why it happened but im pretty upset about it, especially since I have coworkers begging me for some.

Gonna bin them tonight and start a new batch this weekend.

>> No.9963991

>>9963977
so what exactly happened?

>> No.9964609

Sauerkraut gave me a bukkake when I let the gas out, awesome

It is starting to bubble nicely

>> No.9964927

>>9963991
Yeah I'm curious too. I've only had one go bad out of 8 including last years.

>> No.9964955
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My kvass is finally done. Thanks to some technical issues and wanting better nutrition from it, I did not put any effort into straining let alone filtering.

It tastes like very carbonated beer and cider, with a raisin aftertaste. I'm having trouble not guzzling it, and I dislike soda and juice.

>> No.9965324

>>9963991
>>9964927

Quality of ingredients I'm assuming. The peppers weren't, or at least I don't think they were, organic. If they're not organic you run the potential risk of introducing contaminants to the ferment which will make it turn. I may change the source ingredients from the store I buy from to another and see how that goes.

>> No.9965450

>>9965324
Ah, makes sense. I've only used my homegrown stuff and we grow true organic with no pesticides, herbicides or industrial fertilizers.

>> No.9966525

>>9962673
Yes. Gonna make some red kraut tomorrow. Question?

>> No.9966918

>>9966525
Fucking making these generals has ruined them. I'm gonna do a ferment along tomorrow to hopefully revitalize this meme shit

>> No.9967340

>>9966918
Ruined them?

>> No.9967564

>>9966525
how does red kraut compare to white kraut. I have gone on a quest to make an epic hot dog and alternative sauerkrauts are on the list of stuff to investigate

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>>9966918
Nothing wrong with the general it doesn't preclude doing an OC thread. I did a habanero hot sauce OC thread several months ago that generated some interest, so I'll be interested to see how yours goes.

>> No.9968134

>>9968074
whats up with the sticks?

Last summer I had kilo's of red pepper from the garden and I transformed it all into sambal and canned them in vinegar and brine. this year I will try to ferment them into hot sauce

>> No.9969064

Tried the carrots, interesting taste

>> No.9969401

So i'm wondering, the acidity is it mainly the CO2 or the lactic acid. because with this amount of CO2 it certainly will drop the ph of your liquid by quite a bit

>> No.9969415

Purchased some water kifer from a store and thought it was pretty good.

What exactly is kifer, and how can I make it at home?

>> No.9969513

>>9968134
I have a lot of bamboo plants, so I just used some twigs to form a kind of cage to hold everything submerged. Was pretty effective.

>> No.9969533

>>9969513
>I have a lot of bamboo plants
everybody who has bamboo has a lot of bamboo, that stuff comes straight from hell

>> No.9969702

>>9967564
Fermented red kraut tastes great. You can add some red wine and apples to the mix. Goes well with duck or goose.
If you prefer American prole food, you can probably put it on a hot dog too.

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>>9969533
I use the shit out of it for garden fencing dude. It's not hard to contain it by digging a barrier.

>> No.9970019

>>9962673
Napa is for kimchi. Don’t add it to round head cabbage ferments if you just want sauerkraut cause the Napa gives off some weird flavors that don’t compliment Bavarian flavor profiles.

>> No.9970043

>>9969401
It’s lactic. Have some unflavored lacroix.. that’s the level of acidity you can expect to be imparted by carbonic acid.

>> No.9970997

So what is the weirdest thing you guys fermented?

>> No.9971425

Wanna see my baby scoby?

>> No.9971507

>decide to make picked eggs for protein gainz
>recipe calls for malt vinegar and some whole spices (bay leaf, cardamom, etc)
>leave for a few days
>taste test ohboy.jpg
>no semblance of any flavour
>malt vinegar is overwhelming
>might as well drink straight out the bottle
>why the fucking bay leaf
>throw out in sealed bag
>bin still reeks to this day

>> No.9972009

>>9971425

Yes

>> No.9972047

>>9962197
has anyone tried pickled Northern Pike?

>> No.9972092

>>9972047
Yes I love it

>> No.9972101

Anyone have any advice for pickling hardboiled eggs?

>> No.9972110

>>9972092
how does it taste? My MIL jarred one I caught in the summer. Apparently the vinegar dissolves the Y-bone?

>> No.9973055

tried the sauerkraut which I made on monday evening, it tasted of salty cabbage but it is gettign a bit softer and the first hint of sourness is appearing although the salt still overwhelms it

>> No.9974438

>>9971425

Gonna post your scoby or not?
Whered you get yours from?

How big (or small) does a scoby need to be to efficiently process the tea? Does it matter?

>> No.9974452

hey, I wanna get into pickling - where can I buy a shit ton of pickling jars in bulk for real cheap?

>> No.9974453

Why didn't the cooch meme have stating power here?

>> No.9974486

>>9974453

Someone tried to force it. Didnt ferment very well and got tossed.

>> No.9974656

>>9972110
It is good. Tart and not too fishy. If it was a good eater (~20”) it will remain firm. It’s been a while but even as a skeptical teen (last time I had it) it was palatable and enjoyable. I ate it on crackers iirc

>> No.9974665

>>9972101
Make a brine with vinegar. Basically you want to replicate a dill pickle brine. Add onions and garlic. Leave it for a good month in the fridge.

>> No.9975166

>>9974452
Doesn't ikea have mason jars for nearly nothing?

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>>9974438
Local co op had a starter kit. You can see the mother scoby with child

>> No.9976627

>>9976620

WOAH THERE BUD.... PG-13...

>> No.9976636

>>9976627
What.

>> No.9977425

>>9976636
He implied an incest porn thing

>> No.9977890

>>9975166
Good call.

>> No.9977907

>>9962273
>I work in a lab so I probably expose myself to worse on a daily basis
I say this all the time but I'm starting to reckon that you may as well just start taking care of yourself again and find a lab where they'll properly vent the fucking place/provide proper PPE

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So I checked on some chili peppers and stuff I was fermenting and I saw that some of the peppers poked thru the brine and started to grow mold....
Should I toss the entire thing and not risk continuing it?

>> No.9978189

>>9978001
If it's white, just remove the pieces and make sure everything else stays submerged. Any other color and I'd probably chuck it. But if it bothers you, just trash it and try another batch.

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'Hot'sauce. 3 habanero 2 jalapeno some tepin chili, an 8th onion a bay leaf 5 cloves garlic and some sauerkraut culture.
3% brine

>> No.9979946

So my jalapeno hot sauce ferment should have been done today...

Brine is clear, it never got cloudy.

In fact, it stopped fermenting for a few days, and just yesterday started producing bubbles again.

Will it be safe? I'm going to run it for a few more days and see what happens, but it does have me concerned. It went from smelling sour (bad sour), back to smelling alright-ish again.

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>>9979946
Sounds normal to me. They often smell like rotten egg for the first week then it stops but continues to ferment. Just relax, have a shot of homebrewed pepper sauce and don't worry. I've been using all of these and a couple had white mold that I skimmed like you do with sauerkraut and they're goat. 4 of them had the rotten egg smell at the beginning. If it continued to smell like that after 1 month I'd trash it.

>> No.9981492

I have some ginger beer fermenting right now in 2 liter soda bottles. The last batch i made tasted a little watery, and bitter. I let one age for 48 hours and the other age for 96 before cold crashing. 48 was too little, and 96 was like drinking dry champagne with ginger burn. I sort of liked both, but i think something in the middle will be better.

to combat the wateriness i added 4 oz of ginger juice to each 2 liter bottle. and 3 ounces of lemon juice. this time i didn't use the juicer to juice the lemons whole, i only threw in the soft interior flesh, not white and no zest. i skinned the ginger, but used 3 times as much. the first time i made 2 bottles and used tap water and distilled to see if there was a difference, the tap water one came out more bitter.

got my fingers crossed that they come out better this time, i'm going to shoot for a 35 hour ferment, and then i'm going to strain and bottle and give another 24 to build pressure before cold crashing.

>> No.9981721

>>9965324
I buy whatever shit Kroger sells, haven’t had a problem. You still weren’t very specific. Mold or overtaken by bad bacteria?

>> No.9981737

>>9978001
I threw mine out. I have started pushing plastic wrap down close to or on top of the brine/peppers to get rid of the oxygen and stop mold from growing. Haven’t had a problem since

>> No.9982153
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Still new to fermentation outside of kimchi and kefirs

Made some lacto-fermented pickles the left is 5% brine solution and I burp it once a day, the right is a 2.5% and I tried leaving the clean cloth over it to see if it is more efficient . Both are like three days old at this point. Is the right one fucked? It smells like cucumbers still to be honest but it is very cloudy just don't know if that's normal or not. Advice? Also anyone that can point me in the direction of a good basic hot sauce it would be appreciated.

>> No.9982172

>>9969415
Kefir is a colony of bacteria essentially. If you want to make some at home save the culture from the bottle you bought and follow a yogurt recipe just substitute the yogurt for kefir.
If you really enjoy it and want some stronger stuff look up kefir grains (note water grains and milk grains are not the same they are different strains of bacteria and I've never tried substituting them) they aren't actually grains so much as cultivated bacterial colonies but apparently they last practically forever to reuse them if you keep them alive.

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>>9982153
Pic related is my 10th batch of hot sauce, trying a sriracha style.

If you want to start easy, cut a bunch of Fresnos or red jalapeños into thin rings, and a couple of habaneros. 1 part jalapeños, 5 habaneros, 2/3 part onion. 3TB salt. I do 2 tsp each of peppercorn, mustard seed, caraway seed, and 4 cloves. Heat the spices in a pan to bloom and mix everything together and lay a sheet of good plastic wrap over and let salt cure for 2 weeks stirring every other day. Blend everything together and add 1/3-1/2 distilled white vinegar to taste.