/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>9883294
I don't get the picture at all.

>>9883305
Probably some fuckboy fishing for attention or nudes or w/e with the wrong number and a ledditor fedora tipping white knight telling him he's a creep for it.

>>9883305
>>9883308
IIRC a guy saved a number from one of his deliveries and then texted her and her dad or boyfriend answered

>>9883294

>>9883294
How often do you get cunty with the customer because they said you could keep the change and this was supposed to include your tip?

>>9883316
no sir, i don't like it

>>9883294

if you're making a delivery and the person lives like 4-5 mins/1 mile from the store, do you get pissy if that person doesnt tip much.

>>9883294
What's the largest tip you've ever received? Did you have to do something special for it? What's the sketchiest delivery that you ever had to make? What's the strangest situation you found yourself in as a result of a delivery?

You working for a big chain or a local place? I did a summer for Dominos.

>>9883294
Have you ever made a delivery to a person who was naked or lewd

>>9883366
rarely. I don't get that worked up about a single delivery. My coworkers do though.

>>9883390
A mile isn't that far at all. So, no.

>>9883395
$100. No it was kids that were trying to be Chance the Rapper for their snapchat friends.
We deliver to a rundown hotel all the time and sometimes there's hookers, methheads, crackheads, insane people, etc.
There's a REALLY unstable guy that orders every now and then. He always claims it's from brain surger but it's obvious he's just nuts. He doesn't make much sense when he talks and repeats himself a lot. Randomly rages out. Anyway, had me deliver pizzas to the police department and it was just really awkward because they thought they were being poisoned or something.
Big chain

>>9883416
Yes, delivered to a few people who were obviously in the middle of sex.

>>9883416
Not OP, but driver too. Had to fucking pound on their window to get them to stop and come to the door. This was a front window, and its common to peek in to see if people are passed out when its 2AM.

>>9883470
Oh and their dog got out, lady came out wrapped in a blanket dude in undies and I running all over the block trying to get their dog.

Can you ask your shitty bosses to take off the delivery fee? I already tip the driver, why does anyone else need the delivery money

>>9883478
that's for them not the driver and franchisees are greedy as FUCK

>>9883478
>tips

>>9883733
>tips menorah

>>9883294
wait hang on
do you have any pepper and parm in your car real quick

>>9883308
"fuckboy" means faggot in hood slang

fuckboy

What the hell is the delivery fee? Where does that money go? Why do I have to pay a delivery fee and tip the driver?

>>9883757
Thanks for enlightening us nigger

>>9883447
brain sugar like cocaine? I like it im gonna start using that

Ever have a milf ask you to give her a quick hosing?

>>9884330
Women don't talk to me

>>9883294
any chicks ever answer the door nekkid?

>>9884330
milfs are actually pretty flirty a lot of the time

>>9884384
No, but a guy did and there was a naked fat lady behind him once

>>9883751
Nope, should have put them on your order.

>>9883470
did you spank it to it while peeping in the window

>>9883744
that's a good one, ill remember it

>>9883474
I'd be too busy laughing to be aroused. That's some sitcom shit.

>>9884245
>>9883478
The delivery fee is there to milk extra money out of you lazy fucks who dont want to order takeout and drive to get it yourself
The driver often does not see a cent of that fee

>>9884684
>The delivery fee is there to milk extra money out of you lazy fucks who dont want to order takeout and drive to get it yourself
Welp no tip then!
>The driver often does not see a cent of that fee
Sucks. Maybe should unionize then.

Why is the interaction with the pizza man always so awkward?

>>9886674
Beacuse you make it awkward.
This is just a hunch, but you're bad at small talk huh?

>>9886674
>9886674
cause you have no social skills end thread

>>9883294
I just started delivering, after working at the place for a few years, I figured I could make a little extra money with the tips.

Why do you think black people are such shitty tippers? They either tip you barely nothing, or nothing at all.

>>9883316
This is only good if you gently warm it over the stove.

>>9883366
Is this to imply literal change (<$1)? If not, why would it be grounds for “cunty” behavior?

>>9883757
Hood slang means different shit every fuckin day.

>>9886784
Black guy here. It's from a history of being poor and disrespected. My race just outright does not respect institutions we see as "white" (don't mean to politicize it too much, but that's really the essence of it); we see respect for these institutions as diminishing to our selves. See, most aspects of the service industry were just not available to blacks in America for the hundred years after we were freed when our modern communities began to form, so we react adversarially. Same reason black descendants of slaves do shitty in school, while willing immigrants from Africa do just fine.

It's difficult for me to explain to some of my more ignorant relatives that fitting in and paying the honky with the pizza a few extra bucks isn't necessarily forfeiting your self. It's just how you be "nice" in the United States of fucking America. Where we live. So be nice for fuck's sake. I don't want to apologize on behalf of my race, but damn if I don't feel like I should.

>>9884322
I’m not OP but his post clearly was a typo that should’ve said “brain surgery”.

What's your favourite pizza?

>>9886843
Well i'm just bringing them their food that they ordered.

I'll tell you one thing, if I know someone is a shitty tipper, no matter what race, they're getting their food last if I have other deliveries. I don't even need a whole lot, just a dollar would be nice.

I think it's pretty awful for people to look back at a time when they weren't even alive and then blame me for it when i'm doing them a service.

>>9884406
>No, but a guy did and there was a naked fat lady behind him once
Did they just receive the pizza nude? Did they even try to cover themselves or hide or did they just act like no big deal?

>>9886856
I agree man, but all this shit is internalized and we don't even realize it's happening to us. I would love to let go of the past, but within cultures people like to nurse and re-open wounds when it suits them rather than letting them heal and moving on. Victimhood is a hell of a drug.

>>9886853
boneless

>>9886843
>WE WUZ SLAYVS
fuck outta here with that weak ass shit tyrone

>>9886843
It isn’t clear from your post - are you saying that you generally agree with their attitude/perspective even though you don’t agree that tipping pizza delivery is degrading?

If you do agree then why would you say black people frequently vote for the ones who have wanted to keep them enslaved (i.e. the political left)?

I am curious what other institutions black people would deem “white” and thus view the same way? How do black people view Chinese food delivery? Do they tip for that? Surely that isn’t classified as “white”. What about catering?

>>9886682
Your post is very dumb. Please, mon cher, promise me that you will do better in the future.

>>9886898
No, I don't agree with it. I'm just saying people in general make poor decisions because people choose to self-identify and qualify their self-identity in strange ways. And I hate to say it, but in the minds of many of my negro brothers, it is not a very complex dynamic. Tipping = less for me and more for someone I don't know. I was simply trying to explain the root of that. Black people are not used to "service with a smile". We (generally) do not see its value.

>keep them enslaved (i.e. the political left)?
lel what? If anything it's the cultural left that prevents us from true self-actualization. The political left is great for blacks (and for everyone imo, but my pinko commie bullshit is showing).

>>9886890
Thing either
1. have a complex series of antecedents and root causes that provide only a murky picture of a world made of lapse morals and imperfect promises and offer no simple solutions
2. an easy explanation that confirms all your biases and allow you to blame problems on a specific group

I'm not surprised most people pick 2.

>>9886944
2. have an*

>>9886910
it was a reference to ck lore

>>9886912
The political left is not your friend, they seek to keep you shackled to the gilded chains of victimhood and government dependence
If you don't break these chains you will never be free. As long as you think "someone else has it better" you cannot ever truly succeed. You'll only be a slave to your emotions and the people who know how to play those emotions

>>9886983
Nah nigga, the political and cultural left are greatly different. Leftist politics are great for oppressed groups and anyone generally economically disadvantaged. The cultural left, which is something entirely distinct, has become nearly identical to the cultural right in its efforts to undermine the fabric of society.

If you are one of these degenerate rightists, make no mistake that you are having your emotions played like a harp.

>>9884684
I dont want to order takeout because I dont have a car and dont want to walk 20 minutes to the nearest pizza place through snow and ice and 20 minutes back to eat cold ass pizza up hills both ways

>>9886999
It's the fucking nihilists, they've gotten into everything and they're burning it all down.

>>9886890
>gives a very well thought out response
>throws a meme at him

This is how you spot a dumb ass.

>>9884245
Most pizza places pay drivers by the mile or the minute. That's where the fee is.

why do I have to tip you when I'm already paying a $3 delivery fee? why do you take 20 minutes to get to my house when it's within walking distance from the store?

>>9887033
5+ mins to actually get to make if it's busy. 8+ mins. in the oven. 5+ mins. to get to your house after my other delivery.

>>9887033
Fee pays the money the company pays to the driver for gas and hourly wage.
Tip is saying thank you.

>>9887035
the website says what time the pizza leaves the store. it usually takes at least 20 minutes after that time for my pizza to show up. I could walk to the store and back in 20 minutes.

>>9887052
sometimes you're not the only delivery they're talking also I personally drive like an old lady because it's not good when you get pulled over.

>>9887044
>oy vew you better pay our drivers goyim
can't wait till they completely jew waiters and make it completely tip based, of course without actually changing any of the food prices

>>9887054
so you deliver my pizza last even though I have to be the closest to the store, and then you expect me to tip you when I'm already paying the store to pay you?

>>9887113
do you want to talk to a manager???

>>9883294

I've recently considered becoming a pizza delivery driver.

What is it like?
Is it comfy?
Do you ever have to perform any duties besides delivering the 'za?
Do you get compensated for gas?
Do you get paid well in tips?

>>9887115
Yeah, can you deliver a message?

>>9887186
Not OP but a driver as well

It’s all right. Spend most of the time in the car listening to music. Consider investing in a box to put pizzas in cuz your car will smell like it after the first day.

As you won’t only be delivering pizza, you’ll probably be asked to help out with stuff in the kitchen. Prepping dough, washing dishes, or if you’re trained for it, taking orders from the phone or the front

Depends on your store for gas compensation. My store is about a dollar per delivery so that usually covers most of it since our delivery radius isn’t that far.

Depends on the customers. Indian fucks don’t tip for shit. Hell, even mexicans tip better than them. High school kids don’t either, but that’s to be expected. If you deliver to businesses they tend to tip a lot. Not schools though. Delivered twenty pizzas to one in one order and got five bucks for it. Teachers wages, go figure.

>>9887188
Sure that'll be 5.99 plus tip

Why do you think you deserve tips? All you do is sit on your ass and drive.

>>9887455

>Not schools though

I used to be a student senator at my college. I would have to order pizza for events using school funds, and I was told that I was not allowed to tip over 10%. Don't know why.

>>9887455
>teacher's wages
Teachers make like 50k, the whole "oh teacher's don't make much money" thing is bullshit.

Teachers are often hard-up because they are stupid and made poor choices.

>>9887557
>$50k is a lot of money
What exactly is your cutoff for "not much money"?

>>9887561
Teachers get 3 months off per year. . . $50k for 9 months of work is pretty gud

>>9887569
It's a minimu of 60 hours a week

>>9887581
>paid 1250 to work 60 hours. That's decent pay, fag

>>9887569
Maybe if they don't save at all and work full time during the summer. Try looking at incomes the way an adult might. Run that through a 401k calculator with a 9% withholding rate (go out on a limb with me and pretend it's possible to survive after withholding 9%), look at the post-retirement figures, and tell me if you still think that's "pretty gud"

t. $120k and still worries about retirement

>>9886784
Can't speak for other back people, but I tip so little because I'm broke and I want to stick to a strict budget. When I save up enough and I feel like treating myself, then I either make something relatively expensive or I order delivery.

>>9887539
I feel like when you order 10 pizzas it's not much more effort than delivering one pizza so 10% seems reasonable to me since it's just one trip

>>9887584
Don't teachers get a pension as well?

>>9887591
Fuck if I know, but if its a defined benefit plan I wouldn't count on solvency a few decades from now. Those are usually the first to get cut from state budgets when times are tough, "we can make up the difference later" is usually how it goes.

>>9887587
Forgot to say that I at least tip 10% and round up to the nearest dollar.

>>9887186
If I used extra virgn olive oil as lube for sex, would it become regular virgin, or stop being virgin altogether?

Maybe if I use it for anal only it will drop the extra but still be virgin?

Hey bro, why do we have the best minimum wage job of all time?

>Half your job is driving around listening to music
>Other half is getting high, washing dishes, and eating free pizza
>Gas money
>Tips

Fuck I love it

>>9887913
I want to quit my current job. Should I go delivery driver? A pet spa opened up nearby so I was thinking of applying to that too, and if they don't take me, I was thinking of going to Petco or something to become an apprentice dog groomer and get experience for later.

>>9887920
You have to imagine the worst day on either job. Imagine trying to both restrain and give "the works" to the yappiest, meanest Yorkie Schitz on the planet while the "dog mom" stares you dead in the face the entire time. Now imagine trudging up an unplowed driveway in the middle of a blizzard, -10 degrees in a gated community where you had to call the dumbfuck kids three times to even get in, you wait in the freezing cold for about 10 minutes, calling them again and again even though they just answered the phone for you, and then not getting a tip.

The former I made up but the latter actually happened to me. That's about as bad as it gets as a pizza man. Otherwise it's everything I said it is.

>>9887929
>You have to imagine the worst day on either job.
Wow, that actually is really good advice, thanks. I'll try groomer first since that still sounds fun and I'll try driver if that doesn't work out.

>>9887944
I've worked a variety of different jobs and I've realized this is the best strategy for figuring out what you really want to do.
If you wanna work with kids, you have to imagine working with the worst and the brattiest.
If you wanna go into programming, you have to imagine those days where the code fails 12+ times, you rewrite everything, and it fails again.
If you can imagine yourself going through those days and still retaining your passion for whatever you're into, stick with it.

>>9887052
If you are that close why are you paying for delivery? Get off your fat ass and go get it. The only time i paid for delivery for something that was within walking distance was late at night after the store stopped allowing walkins because they were getting robbed all the time.

>>9884406
Women are like dog crap.
The older they get, the easier they are to pick up.

Tough one for all americans out there:
Defend your tipping system.

Why should I, as the customer, be the one to pay for the waiter / delivery guy salary ?

I order food, you give me the note and I pay.
Then its the manager / owner's responsibility to cover his expenses with it, incl. payroll.

>>9888265
How is that tough? The standard rebuttal is that if it wasn't for tipping, you'd be paying more for food across the board to make up the difference, so you wouldn't actually save any money, but you'd likely get worse service.

>>9888265
Have you ever worked in an industry where tipping was a part of it?

I was a golf caddy in high school and college. Getting tipped, even a small amount, wasn't about the money: it was about feeling like you did a good job, like the person you're giving the service to appreciated it.

It's not logical at all and is pretty dumb from a cultural viewpoint. Just look at it from the viewpoint of the individual: do it so you make a person's day a bit better.

>>9888283
Then I would not frequent that place, they would lose revenue, and go out of business... or, you know, change their practices to not lose their business.

>>9888283
Why would you be paying more?

>>9888289
Yeah but you feel good only if you actually get good tips, no?
Also
>doing a good job when delivering food
Don’t want to be insulting but what gratification should you really expect from such a job?

>>9888292
Good luck finding a place that wouldn't have to raise their prices to pay their workers if tipping stopped.

>>9888296
Because the restaurant would need to increase waiter wages and they would have to make up the cost difference in order to make a profit.

>>9888302
Bill + tip = bill incl delivery guy salary
You wouldn’t be paying more.

Should I also send a tip for the cook?

>>9888311
>Should I also send a tip for the cook?
Yes, actually.

>>9888311
>Bill + tip = bill incl delivery guy salary
What the hell is your argument right now, because that's exactly what I said the first time. You are paying no less money overall but will likely receive worse service if the tip is eliminated since the employee doesn't have any extra incentive to make you happier than the bare minimum.

>>9888322
Not me place to decide how much the delivery guy should be paid and I should expect good service no matter what.

>>9888314
Your an asshole service guy apparently.

Tell me what the food costs, and I will either pay it, or get food elsewhere. I am not paying your employees. I am buying food.

>>9888326
Giving incentive, whether it be monetary or a chance to improve some aspect of their life, always ends up with better service.

Being proud that you are doing your job for whatever wages people above spend on you is not pride in your job, but barrel in your mouth. You will never succeed in life with nothing but pride in being a slave.

>>9888326
So your argument against tips is that you want less say and less influence over the quality of your service? You should expect good service, but that doesn't always happen so now you have a way to incentivize it and punish it when it doesnt.

>>9888329
>Tell me what the food costs
Apparently more than a copy of 'At Your Service', any management book, or common-sense education.

In a typical sit-down restaurant your food cost is probably between 30-40% depending on the class of the place. You need to start adding at LEAST 10-15% for labor, the cost of cleaning and sanitation products, the cost of industrial-equipment, the cost of having professionals clean the vents twice a year (not the baffles that you should clean yourself), electricity water gas etc, refrigerant agents that need filling by a professional twice a year, chairs napkins tables and their repair or replacement.

You're lucky if you pull a 5% profit and around 90% of restaurants fail within the first 2 years. The cooks end up being so fucking stressed they turn to drugs and whores.

>>9888346
Listen... if the ad says "bullshit pizza, 12.99" and I order one, don't show up with the shit expecting 20 bucks. Fuck your delivery fee. Fuck your drivers. If it is 20, SAY 20. That's all.

>>9886983
Good joke! Ya fox news, AM radio brainwashed shill

>>9888364
>7 dollar delivery and tip
What the fuck are you doing?
Also, delivery fees only apply to deliveries. It would be absurd to have two different prices. If anything, a law should be passed to REQUIRE delivery fees to be paid to the driver and not just a caveat form of profiting.

Thirdly, drivers might prefer cash-at-door tips so they don't have to wait for their next paycheck to spend it.

>>9888393
not my problem.

>>9888408
>apathy and a lack of compassion for others
Your kind is why our species has progressed so slowly. You won't even try to analyze the more practical solution even if it benefits everyone including yourself.

Lord forbid you think long-term.

>>9888417
yeah...my kind. Not those of you with a stranglehold on traditions that are not in anyway logical. You are an idiot, and if it came down to it, your kind would be food for my kind.

>>9888424
>Not those of you with a stranglehold on traditions that are not in anyway logical.
Accusing a progressive person of this is outright hilarious. I find antiques neat and like materials like wood and leather because I find them more reliable when cared for, but that's about it unless you find a person who questions transgender surgery+drugs to be a dangerous mix and wish psychiatrists were encouraged to treat them instead. I am only a small part conservative.

>You are an idiot, and if it came down to it, your kind would be food for my kind.
You are either a troll, a stubborn and willing-fully ignorant mule, and/or going to end up with creutzfeldt jakob. But feel free to share the cannibalistic love with your kind.

>>9887557
Lmao. You can lookup your old highschool and find the wages of your teachers.
>Some dipshit language arts teacher who's worked there for 10 years
>90k a year
"Muh wages"

>>9883294
What do you do to the food when they forget to tip?

>>9888445
How is tipping progressive? Because one place added a delivery fee (in addition to the standard tip) got away with it, and everyone else adopted the process?

You are fucking dumb.

>>9883395
2 inch tip

>>9887490
Because
>gas
>wear and tear on car
>the very real risk of dying in a car accident
>I'm performing a service for you, which needs to be payed for either in food cost or in tip
>knowledge of the city and how to efficiently route ourselves and find your stupid ass house set back behind that garage on the corner
>etc

>>9889136
you filled out the application fuckhead. If you cannot maintain your car, whine to your boss.

>>9889154
I don't think you understand how economies work. The service costs money to provide, therefore the service costs money to use dipshit. And wear and tear on the delivery cars is a big factor. Working part time in college I put on 20k miles a year. Full time would probably be in the 35k a year neighborhood. Cars and gas and time aint free idiot.

I also work pizza and there are multiple reasons why it takes longer than you'd expect to deliver your pizza even though your only 5 mins away.

1) all the drivers are busy and are out delivering. There's no one to deliver your food

2) Manager tells you to wait even though your food is ready and you live nearby. They will usually tell you to take two or three if the other deliveries are on the same route. So that adds about 10-15 minutes waiting for the other orders to be done coooking

3) This kind of goes with point 2 but there are people who do specified timed orders. These get priority obviously and if they happen to be ready around your order then tough luck. I have to drive all the way downtown to deliver it before I get yours done.

4) The newbies take your order and they're always forgetting items so they gotta go back to grab it and or get lost in apartment complexes if you happen to live in one.

6) Fucking traffic. A red light can add up to 2 minutes or even more of dead time just waiting. Also slow drivers, a lot of them

>>9889175
add it to the price of the pizza. if I thin its not worth t then, I won't order from you and you can figure out how to make it reasonable, or go out of business. DONE.

If you were good with economics YOU WOULDNT BE A FUCKING PIZZA GUY

>>9889202
You do realize that you people who don't tip actually benefit the most from the tipping system right? You get to use services that cost money for free.

And guess what, you couldn't pay any of the drivers at my place even $15 an hour to do the job. Its way too much expense and risk. Its straight up going to be an extra $5+ a pizza.

>>9889216
After deliver charge and what I normally tip, 5 would be a savings. I am fine with that.

>>9889202
And I do it part time in college because I need money to live and hey guess what all those services I use at college aint free either, so I have to pay out the ass for them.

>this thread
There are a lot of the types of customers I can't stand in this thread RIGHT now.

>>9887913
It's MUCH easier than past fast food jobs. It still sucks in other ways but it's so much better.

>>9888078
Some of them are hot though.

>>9888456
I don't do anything because I'm only edgy on 4chan.

>>9889222
do you tip the person at the book store? How about the mailman who delivers your transcripts?

I ordered a medium sausage from papa john's with a 50% discount and didn't tip. What can I expect next time I order?

>>9884684
Bull. Fucking. Shit. I worked at all the major chains, and a few small franchises between 18-21, and every cent of the delivery fee goes to the driver, every single time. Any driver that says otherwise is a fucking liar trying to get sympathy and more tips. Yeah, I lied about it too while driving, but that was to make people feel guilty and tip me more. Hell, at one place the delivery fee went as high as $9 per, depending on distance, and I still got every bit of that fee.

>>9889538
>and every cent of the delivery fee goes to the driver
It might be there to offset what they actually pay me but it doesn't go directly to me (I don't make delivery-fee times # of deliveries).

>>9889554
Liar. Unless me and the 50 or so other drivers I worked with were just unfairly treated to extra money for no reason. For instance, if I took five deliveries to one neighborhood at the same time while working for any chain that charged $2 delivery, I made $10 just for going, plus tips. And chains don't change rules for pay based on anything, no matter where you live, they pay out the same. And the manager that collected at the end of my shift had zero say in any case, the computer knows what you took and what you owe.

>>9889590
Why would I lie about that, you child?

>>9886784
>Why do you think black people are such shitty tippers? They either tip you barely nothing, or nothing at all.

Mostly because they don't have to, It's why I don't tip.

>>9889602
Because you want more tips, and convincing people that your mean old boss steals your money works on retards.

>>9889657
Exactly. Same reason niggers don't work, because they don't have to.

>>9889660
I would have no reason to lie about it on anonymous image board. You're just an entitled idiot who apparently can't keep a job himself since you've worked at ALL the pizza places, huh?

>>9889667
That was over a decade ago, I have a real job now, and have for several years. That doesn't mean I forgot how the system works.

>>9889666
Oh they do, and I do. I think you're just mad you chose a shitty job with shitty pay. Can't get pizza delivery with foodstamps btw.

>>9889684
Not the guy you replied to, just know why you (and) niggers don't tip or work.

>>9889691
Work =/= Tip, don't get salty with me I don't make you work there.

>>9889703
I don't work for a pizza joint. I'm just aware of the antics of niggers. How is that so hard to understand? Is it because of your chimp brain?

>>9889733
You wouldn't be so mad if that were true.

>>9889759
Other than you projecting, where did you see any indication of anger in my posts?

serious question for delivery guys: everytime I order food, I tip. My usual guideline is rounding up to the next € + 1€ additionally if I'm ordering for myself, or 3-4€ if we're many people ordering. I don't know if it's considered small or big in the states but over here I've seen many drivers smiling and thanking me whenever I've done it, so I've sticked to it.
My question is: do they keep track of who tips and who doesn't? I'm mainly asking because I've noticed a change in the delivery time for a couple of shops I've been ordering twice a month or so: they used to take 45+ minutes to get here, but lately after 15 minutes they're at my door. It's a couple of places too, and it even happened during holiday season, so I don't think it has to do with having less deliveries to do.

>>9887455
I remember delivering about 15 pizzas to a school 20 minutes away so they could sell them by the slice at their basketball game probably at insane prices. Didn't tip worth a damn despite being out of our delivery range.

>>9889821
Should've told the franchisee so they could sue.

>>9887539
probably to stop you from "accidentally" tipping your delivery man who happens to be your friend or not a bajillion dollars
or you "tip" the delivery guy 20% but take a 10% cut yourself

>>9886999
what did obama do to make your life better? or clinton?
>nothing
you're welcome for tax reform. more money to tip now!

>>9888265
it started out as a reward for good service
our society has morphed to the point that people just expect to be rewarded to doing what is expected of them
also fear of being labeled a cheapskate

>>9889850
>you're welcome for tax reform. more money to tip now!

this is what they actually believe

>>9886843
>>9886872
>>9886912
>>9886999
>intelligent black takes the time to write out cultural insight
>reminds me of my friend Michael, makes me homesick
>gets typical 4chan replies
I live in a college town where entitled-ass college kids (mostly white) don't tip for shit, thanks to that same "less for me, more for them" attitude.

Thank you for being polite, decent, and willing to put up with assholes. It's not just some white thing, being decent to each other.

Happy boxing day

>>9889811
Do you know the solution to 2+2? Do you remember anyone from your job? Are you nice to nice people?

>>9889985
why are you talking in riddles anon?
the answers are yes, yes and yes, so I assume the answer to my initial question is also yes

>>9890206
>they
I'm not >>9889985
Humans remember things. You're a human, and your delivery drivers are human.

Don't forget that humans remember things.

>>9889985
Dude, are you the riddler?

>>9889922
fuck off canacuck

day of the rake is coming soon

>>9884245
I work for a place, and the delivery fee goes to the company. 70 cents of that goes to the drivers gas per delivery. I mean if you're not going to have a delivery fee, why even deliver?

>>9889657
And that's why your food arrives last and cold.

>>9889922
I remember being in college and getting delivery. I always made sure I tipped at least 2 or 3 dollars. Most of the time 3, 5 if it was pay day. I remember feeling really bad for the poor drivers seeing them get stiffed by bitchy girls.

The delivery drivers always loved me though.

>>9889538
None of the places I've worked at gave us the whole thing. Even the super nice locally owned livable wage for everyone place I work at now. At dominos, it was $2.50 and I got a buck. And where I am now its the variable fee (based on distance) less $0.25.

>>9889811
Depends. We by and large don't remember most people. But if you consistently tip large or not at all and/or rude or do something to make it memorable we sure do.

>>9889857
Its literally to pay for the service you are using, because that service price isn't included in the menu prices like electricity and rent are. The only way you're going to get it for free is under the tipping system and letting others subsidize your meals.

>>9883294
>>9883294
>timed deliveries get priority
>low tipping doesnt
If i always time it but never tips wha5s gonna happen? They make it early and let it cool off to spite me?
Also lately i pay when im out doi g stuff and just tell them deliver it when its ready as i dont want to wait around another 20 minutes. You dont need to tip the cashier and the driver doesnt ask for shit because youve already paid. Win/win

>>9887186
It's easier the busier it is honestly, as you'll be out of the store more often, meaning more tips and less having to do shit inside(cleaning, phone calls, etc)

Depends on your location.

See above, closing driver basically has to do whatever dishes haven't been done, sweep and mop at my store.

A small amount, yes.

Depends on your location. I'm in a very busy, nice area and generally drivers will make on average around 70-80 on a weekend, with outliers 100+ every so often.

Honestly, you're much better off being a server, as gas and car maintenance really adds up.

>>9883294
do you have commercial car insurance or are you just planning on being in debt for the rest of your life if you accidentally back over a small child and paralyze him for the rest of his life?

>tfw insider at one of the busiest pizza huts in the nation
ama

>>9891107
We have a guy that always puts timed orders in for when he's on break at work, but he never tips so we just say fuck it and deliver 10-15 late.

And where the hell are you having them deliver? Because if there's a sure fire way to piss off a driver its ordering delivery to a place and then leaving to go somewhere else. Sitting on our asses at your doorstep forever is far far far worse than a stiff.

>>9891126
What are your sales like? Place I'm at does like 25k a day on the weekends.

Number of drivers for weekend dinner rush?

About how many deliveries do you do in a shift? Most I've had was 78 in 9 hours.

>>9891133
Where the fuck are you working that you're making fucking 25k a day on weekends? That sounds like a load of shit.

On a decently busy night we'll hit 5k at around 200 orders.

Are you telling me your store takes 1k orders a day?

You would need like 15-20 drivers throughout the day and 10-15 cooks at full blast the whole day to get anywhere near that.

>>9891131
Oh. Well you guys are niggers then. And just home. Ordering is always my last spot if im out for the afternoon. Pay for my pizza, drive home, pizzas there shortly after i arrive. Can't tip the guy if im not paying him right?

what are various ways for me to get free pizza, ie dumpster, trade for weed, robberry?

>>9891149
order, bullshit and lie to corporate

>>9891145
>Are you telling me your store takes 1k orders a day?
Not a manager so I can't access the stats myself, but they usually talk about the sales at the end of the night.

>You would need like 15-20 drivers throughout the day and 10-15 cooks at full blast the whole day to get anywhere near that.
Friday and Saturday we have 21-25 drivers going, each doing like 5 at a time. I've seen 100 deliveries on the screen at once a number of times. Usually sits at like 60-80 for a few hours during the rush.
Pizza kitchen is a solid wall of people along all the work surfaces I've counted 14, but I don't pay too much attention. And all 3 ovens going with 1 catching and 1 slicing. Back kitchen has probably 6-8 people too.

>>9884406
>Nope, should have put them on your order.
well, there goes some of yer tipo

>>9891147
Can tip cash. If you see a $0 order its generally not a good sign and we'll typically assign it the lowest priority in terms of delivery order and willingness to wait for more orders to be ready.

>>9891152
You would need to be taking around 9 deliveries an hour. That is physically not possible unless you're delivery area was small as shit, which wouldn't make sense with 25k a day in sales with over 1k orders a day.

I don't just not believe you, you're just spewing out straight bullshit that doesn't even make sense.

>>9883751
Most don't. I now keep a sterilite in my trunk with plates, napkins, cups, silverware, parm and peppers, menus etc for if I forget it and its on the ticket. If you're in an apartment or hotel I ain't running back for it unless you gave me $10+ though.

>>9886912
I’m still curious how black people would perceive Chinese food delivery and the like. I would have thought it was more just - have more money / good service = tip better, have less money / poor service = tip less.

>the political left is great for blacks
Explain how. What has the political left done that has benefitted blacks and helped improve their living conditions? The political left panders for votes by coddling minorities (not just blacks) to come off as their friend while simultaneously screwing them over by holding them down.

>>9889922
I sincerely hope that you weren’t lumping me as a typical 4chan commenter. I didn’t call him anything and my questions were/are genuinely curious ones. But alas, this is 4chan after all so... about that pizza delivery!

>>9891159
I should clarify, my delivery record was at my old store that had a very small area in a college campus during a giant block party where I was taking 7-10 at a time every 45 minutes as they were just blocks away from each other.

25k a day place I'm usually around 5 an hour on a good night. Our prices are also fucking ridiculous.

>>9891156
Oh. Go fuck yourself

>>9886999
Leftist politics are terrible for minorities and society as a whole, in general. Prove anything of true value, any way that they improved your life other than
>muh victimhood

>>9891152
I completely glossed over that last sentence. I'm the second fastest cutter at my store, and with 3 cooks and 2 ovens, i was having to basically pile pizzas on top of each other so they didn't burn.

There is no physical way a single person could keep up with 14 cooks on the line. He would need to have a pizza come from the over, cut and boxed in like 5 seconds.

Please try a little harder before making up stories.
>>9891166
your pizzas would need to be like 60 bucks a pop with people ordering multiple pizzas for that to make sense

>>9887007
>barefoot

>>9886887
pizza bones can be the best part

>>9891167
right back at ya bud. you don't tip and you aren't guaranteed to actually be there when they get there, you deserve everything the don't do for ya.

>>9887044
Thank you for a legitimate explanation.

>>9891174
Im not gonna let one of you peons talk back to me. Ill just order from somewhere else. If you wanted a tip you shouldve listened to your parents and went to college. Fucking loser

>>9891169
Bruh you suck at cutting. I can handle 2 ovens myself for 100+ pie timed orders. 2 across and only a few inches space. Granted boxing timed orders is very quick and easy but still.

Don't get me wrong it looks like hell to be on oven when its like that, but when you're literally only cutting what gets put in front of you and don't have to look at or do much else its very easy to get them cut stupid fast. It also looks like they give good space so its not as bad, and there's bumpers on all of the ovens so if you fall behind for a few pizzas aren't hitting the floor immediately.

Large specialties are about $25 a pop and every topping is $2. Salads are $12 and most fried items are $7 with wings at $10. I've seen people modify specialties into $60 monstrosities.

>>9887557
They have to buy their own supplies... until they make the parents provide them.

>>9891169
Also I don't know if I'm understanding you correctly but there are 2 people on the oven. One exclusively boxing and the other exclusively cutting.

>>9887587
This is what I expect most people’s reasoning would be for not tipping better for good service. Regardless of race, gender, religious beliefs, disabilities, etc.

>>9888380
Oh my! I’m sure you have been highly educated by CNN and MSNBC, right?

>>9888417
Tipping is a cop out for business owners to pay less to their waitstaff and keep their food prices lower while making the customer pay the staff’s wages. Yes, good prices would go up if waitstaff were paid regular wages without tips. In the south and many other areas, waitstaff are paid only ~$2.50 per hour and expected to make up the rest of their MINIMUM wage in tips. I think that’s wrong and it destroys the purpose of tipping. It makes the customer feel guilty and obligated instead of happy to tip as a thank you for good service.

There are lots of people who bust ass in other service jobs that aren’t tipped and they live.

>>9888445
I’m not the anon you are arguing with but damn if your comment didn’t just go off the rails completely.

>>9889216
It’s not “free”. “Free” would imply you are paying nothing. You are still paying for the pizza itself (product) and the driver to bring it (service).

>>9889430
This.

>>9889862
Setting aside the tip remark, are you saying you dislike taking home more money?

Also a delivery fuck. We remember notable customers be it they were a good or bad experience cause we'll usually come back to the store and let other drivers know. There's a couple good tippers that'll get high priority and we'll throw in shit just because. Habitual non tippers get taken with multiples and will be the last one to be delivered. Sketchy areas will also get put last unless you've gotten a good rep. Black people don't tip for the most part even to other black people like me. Mexicans like to try to break change on cash orders. It's fairly common for them to try to pay with a 50 or a hundred on a 20 dollar order, decent tippers though. Highschoolers can fuck themselves, Big business like walmart can go fuck themselves and schools can definitely fuck themselves.

>>9891231
You really aren't paying for the driver if you're not tipping. That's my point.

>>9883308
>implying it isn't

>>9883294
did you fug someone?

>>9886784
They are rude, greedy, poor and selfish

>>9887028
If they're charging the customer a feew for delivery because the employer has to pay the delivery guy, why isn't there, like, a "counter fee" to cover their cost in having to pay the teenager who brings you your pizza at the counter?

The delivery guy is an employee. The cost to pay him in part of the cost of doing business, like the cost of having waitresses and cashiers and dishwashers. "Delivery fee" is just bullshit.

>>9891293
The black people in my area tip alot because everyone knows eachother
Even the gangs and their rival gangs

>>9887557
>Teachers make like 50k, the whole "oh teacher's don't make much money" thing is bullshit.

TOTALLY depends on where they're teaching and how tough their union is.

And anyway, no one ever said teachers don't make a living. The complaint is that they make shit money for how much education and training they have to have. Other people with grad degress and similar time training are called doctors and lawyers. And then on top of this, some states are now requiring them to do language training so they can deal with parents who don't speak English. You wanna guess how much xray teachs, nurses, and respiratory therapists make with their associates degree level training? Here's a hint: it's more.

>>9887569
>Teachers get 3 months off per year. .

Except they don't. There's a ton of shit they have to do over the summers, including going to classes for continuing education to keep their credentials current. And they aren't paid by the hour or whatever--they're salaried. They get so much per year, and it's divided out by however many pay periods their district does.

>>9888456
is this bait?

who other than an uber or skipthedishes driver gets tipped before delivering?

>>9891211

You be the judge.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/07/21/a-rigorous-scientific-look-into-the-fox-news-effect/#62d260bd12ab

Oh, but you probably think Forbes is a left-wing fake news shill, don't you?

>>9887569
>3 months off per year
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA :'(

>>9891163
>What has the political left done that has benefitted blacks and helped improve their living conditions?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>9891179
>Ill just order from somewhere else.

...where I'm sure the delivery guys have an ENTIRELY different attitude about tipping.

>>9891239
>are you saying you dislike taking home more money?

It's going to be pretty funny to see the reactions from the Trumpsters when they actually start seeing all the "more money" in their checks. Yeah, you're going to be able to afford an extra movie a month, with the LARGE popcorn!

>>9883294
I delivered through highschool and college - I miss it honestly. It was a lot of fun to get stoned and drive around the small town my store covered, had some regulars and always got any dinner item I wanted at the end of my shift. I'm sure I just miss being young and not having real responsibilities, but the job itself was pretty fun - paid well too

>>9891473
It's more like 4 months with Christmas and other breaks. But what is worse is they turn kids into retards

>>9886784
We lack money.

>>9891905
>turn kids into retards
Case in point ;)

>>9891504
Wow. So youre literally colluding with all the local pizza places to extort another 2 dollars out of me? No wonder theres so many wops in the fucking pizza game. Worse than the mob

>>9888265
It might save the employer some money. That's about it. Personally, I think it's a poor idea to gamble away your time like that. And it is gambling. You hope someone tips you well, because you know you agreed to have your employer pay you fucking nothing per hour, and when the customer doesn't tip or not as well as you'd like, you take it out on the customer.

Tipping for food service is a practice I oppose. If you want to get paid more, take it up with the employer, not me.

>>9888283
>You'd pay more for the food
More likely than not, the employer would just hire fewer people. Either that or they'd hire more people, but each would get fewer hours. What cost has tipping actually been shown to cover?

If the cost of the food went up substantially, wouldn't the restaurant lose out to more affordable competitors?

>>9883294
When is my pizza going to arrive?

>>9891107
>let it cool off
Exactly, but I did it in the car. Take the pizza out of the bag, open the box, AC on high pointed at pizza. If I really don't like you I'll take it out of the bag, turn on the AC, and flip the box upside down. And I hope you own a pizza cutter. Like I give a shit if corporate gives you a free pizza, I still get two bucks for delivering it again.

>>9892105
Sounds like you have a serious fuckin mental problem. Probably why you're delivering pizza in the first place

>>9892114
If I had mental problems I'd shit in the box.

>>9891431
>Other people with grad degress and similar time training are called doctors and lawyers.
That's incredibly wrong. In my area at least, teaching just requires a certification on top of your bachelor's degree, not any extra years of schooling. Many of my friends in college did their teaching certification while getting their degree and they didn't require even a single extra semester. Where do you like that you require even a master's degree for teaching, much less 4 extra fucking years and a residency to compare them to doctors?

>>9892056
>What cost has tipping actually been shown to cover?
The fucking salary of the waiter. You realize that waiters get paid less than minimum wage with the expectation that tips will make up for it right? In my state, the minimum wage is 11 dollars an hour. But it's 3.75 if you work a tipped job.

>>9892162
>The fucking salary of the waiter.
And what exactly is keeping the employer from paying minimum wage or better?

>>9892169
The same thing keeping my employer from paying me 100 dollars an hour. Again, the alternative to tipping is that you pay the waiters a livable wage and hire fewer while raising foor prices to compensate. Removing tipping would not save you any money, but it would give you worse service.

>>9887052
Yeah, but you won't go and get it. You are paying for the pizza to be brought to you, not the speed in which you obtain the pizza.

>>9892175
>Removing tipping would not save you any money, but it would give you worse service.
If the service is poor and the cost of food rises, then the restaurant will not be successful. That would seem to suggest that tipping and paying below minimum wage(which isn't even a "livable" wage; it doesn't even meet minimum requirements) is REQUIRED to run a successful restaurant. Where is the data that supports this?

>>9891510
More money is more money, using hyperbole doesn't change that

>>9892189
>If the service is poor and the cost of food rises, then the restaurant will not be successful
It absolutely would if cost rose everywhere, which it would if every restaurant suddenly needed to pay their employees 8 extra dollars an hour. Plenty of cheap restaurants with shitty service and no tipping exist. Retail stores survive with shitty service. What the hell kind of world do you live in where if a store suddenly had to triple its workers salaries, you wouldn't see any change on your end?

>That would seem to suggest that tipping and paying below minimum wage(which isn't even a "livable" wage; it doesn't even meet minimum requirements) is REQUIRED to run a successful restaurant.
Keeping costs low is the number one way to run a successful business, and it's very well established that employees are almost always the biggest cost of a business. And again, your logic is flawed since restaurants with no tipping exist. They're just generally regarded as cheap shit because they're cheap and they're shit.

>>9892175
In japan and korea, both non-tipping countries, restaurant service btfo of anything I've ever seen in amerilard restaurants except for very fine dining. In fact, I've had koreans ask me why was the service we were getting at a meal in a US restaurant so bad when it was just typical average amerilard service. Embarassing, really.

>>9892229
You're assuming restaurant owners and managers would just let their staff get away with doing a crappy job?

>>9892229
>if every restaurant suddenly needed to pay their employees 8 extra dollars an hour.
Well, not all of them. Just the waitstaff and delivery drivers. You won't have but so many people serving at the same time.

>employees are almost always the biggest cost of a business
Yet every employee that is not waitstaff can be paid normal wages. If hiring an employee is so expensive that you need to offset the cost with sub-minimum wage employment, then there is a problem with either your financing, industry, or whatever regulations are causing employment costs to be that high.

>restaurants with no/low tipping exist
Yes, like in much of Europe. Are they generally regarded as cheap and shit, or is this just an American problem? If it is the latter, then there's an underlying problem that needs to be observed. Tipping clearly isn't helping.

>>9892229
>What the hell kind of world do you live in where if a store suddenly had to triple its workers salaries, you wouldn't see any change on your end?
Again, we're talking an increase of perhaps 5-8 dollars per hour for a select few employees. If your restaurant can't afford to pay one position normal wages like the rest, there's a problem.

The tipping culture, to me, seems like an opportunity to exploit labor and customers. Agreeing to work shit wages + tips is gambling with your time. If you agree to that, you should be aware that you could be selling yourself short. By the way, it could be the case that customers decide to not tip. What happens then? The restaurant shuts down? Prices double? Or you just get fired?

>>9892280
I'm honestly still shocked that you believe if restaurants suddenly had to pay their waitstaff 5-8 dollars per hour more, you legitimately believe you would not see any changes on your end, and that restaurants would be happy to just eat the money. You're arguing theoreticals when the practical matter is that they would absolutely use it as an excuse to pass costs onto you or hire fewer employees.

>>9892229
>>9892280
I have a real-world example.
>local minimum wage increase goes into effect
>literally 75% of the employees at the local Taco Bell franchiser get raises
>all stores immediately slash hours, full-time employees are cut down to 30/week, anyone already working under full-time is cut down to 20, assistant managers are put back on hourly instead of salaried and required to work 40/week minimum
>changes stay in effect for several months until enough people quit that they can start bringing people back to full-time
anyone who thinks fast food of all places would let a minimum wage hike cut into their bottom line is SORELY mistaken

>>9892329
seems like that effected to business, not customer, and they figured out how to make it work.

>>9892280
And on the note of employment costs, would no employee ever receive a raise? Is a few extra dollars too much? Is there no line between keeping costs low and keeping them low enough? If it's just too much, I think our restaurant industry needs a readjustment.

>>9892175
Obviously being paid 100 USD per hour could be considered far too much, but minimum wage? What restaurant flatout can't afford to pay minimum wage?

>>9892307
Never said it wasn't possible that costs would be incurred. Rather, I was asking when and where has it been impossible for a restaurant to operate and offer services at a reasonable price while also paying all of its employees minimum wage or better without the need for tipping.

If restaurants are using that alleged cost as an EXCUSE to raise prices, then could it not be the case that it actually doesn't cost them that much? Again, I'm raising the question of normal wages and whether or not it would actually, regularly put restaurants in the red. I do not THINK this is the case, so yes, I am arguing that theoretically, this tipping-to-offset-cost notion is not necessary, and the culture behind obligatory tipping needs to die. It's supposed to be a bonus, not a crutch.

>>9892329
That's not the same instance. That is an increase to minimum wage resulting in higher pay for ALL employees in a restaurant. I'm referring to just waitstaff and delivery drivers being paid normal wages. Although, in that instance, they were able to devise a solution. Whether it was due to management being stingy or threat of the restaurant shutting down, I don't think we can tell with what information was given.

>>9892360
>management being stingy
I guess I should say "corporate" here. It's usually not just management that factors into these decisions.

>>9892360
yes, i'm sure the local TB franchisee was totally in danger of shutting down over a 50 cent pay raise for their "food champions".
>tfw I wasn't even affected because I already made $10 an hour and I still got cut from 32 to 24

>>9891414
Because delivery is an extra service and an expensive one at that. Therefore it doesn't really make sense to make in store customers pay for it too, nor does it make sense to have 2 prices for everything.

>>9892056
You do realize that every tipped employee has to be paid a certain amount of money to get people to actually take and keep that job, right? They're not going to do it for free out of the goodness of their heart. Whether you pay in tips or in increased food cost, they have to be payed.

>>9892349
>place is already understaffed by people who don't give a shit and are overworked
>place now makes fewer employees do even more work
>service will totally be the same or better guys!

>>9892432
if it's not. they will lose my business.

>>9891159
Why do retards like you turn expert mathematicians when it comes to dumb shit like this but bring up the ridiculous numbers in the holocaust you shut your cuck mouths.

>>9892477
Thats the thing dipshit, if every restaurant does this its going to be everywhere, not just a couple places.

>>9888331
Here (Switzerland) it is expected of any worker to do their job the best they can. If they aren't laid enough they can just quit the job, a boss that isn't paying his employees well or worse exploits them has a good chance of not being successful and close.
Just this summer we had such a case with the Mike Wong restaurants (local Chinese fast food, got about 3 open restaurants in Geneva) "willingly" closed all his joints because he did not declare his employees and likely didn't paid them a correct wage. He tried to cry on Facebook but everyone laughed at him and declared him a fraud

>>9888393
If we’re still talking about pizza delivery drivers and not stupid shit like postmates or doordash, I think they get all the tips, cash or credit, at the end of their shift when they clock out.

At least in Pizza Hut, once you’re shift as a driver is done, you take all your receipts and log them into the system, then the cashier/manager double checks the tips left on the receipt and pay you the tips from the cash drawer before you leave for home.

So the only think you’re getting in your paycheck every 2 weeks is the minimum wage money for the total hours you put in for your shifts.

>>9889681
The system changes

For example, in Southern California, the driver reimbursment is about 94cents per delivery for Pizza hut regardless of how many miles you drive per delivery.

Starting January the delivery fee will go up from 3$ to $4.25 in california, on top of a fucking 50 cent “service charge” that gets added to EVERY order, even carry out.

On top of that, every single pizza is now going to be more expensive. Pan Pizza will go up 1$ and Stuffed Crust will go up 3$