/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Got put on gabapentin to help avoid alcohol cravings. Took it too often and now withdrawing from it. Similar to alcohol withdrawal. I want off the ride.

>>9865387
No drugs, no nicotine. No alcohol.
I need a substance quick.

>Stop taking medication because doctors think it might be hurting my liver
>Wait a month, do another blood test
>Enzyme levels are even higher than before
>tfw have to quit drinking just in time for the holidays
fuck me

DAMNIT I edited A PICTURE TO USE FORTHE OP
DAMN YOU.
You are an agent of the gnomes you bastard.

>>9865403
What were your levels?

>>9865400
I used to go around inhaling household chemicals when I had absolutely nothing. Butane works. Stopped breathing once or twice but at least I didn’t have to be sober.

>>9865412
Not anything completely insane, but it was a significant jump from the last few readings. I went from 75/140 to 160/280.

>>9865411
How’s stuff gnomebro? Still off the meth and booze, or is your table still 100% bottles?

>>9865416
Ever stooped so low that you went to your neighbors house and siphoned gas out of their car just to lean up against their shed and huff it?

>>9865421
Havent had dope in months and i am currently chuggin hurricane 8%s

almost ran out of gas on the way home

gnomes are all but gone now which is good
I am raising a baby bobcat and a rat who play with each other so it is entertaining.
I am trying to capture more baby animals so i can raise them.

It makes me feel important

>>9865422
Probably. I’ve drunk drain sludge because there was booze in it, and mixed up my piss and booze bottles- but kept drinking. Smoked enough class-a that I now get out of breath just breathing. All sorts of healing, healthy stuff.

>>9865397
I hated that shit.


I threw all of mine away, Fucking garbage drug.

All it did was make me shake like I just had 5 cups of coffee

>>9865429
That’s great dude. Meth will wreck your shit. I didn’t sleep for five solid nights when I first used it. 500mg of Chinese glass had me wrecked the whole time. I got blackout drunk and sobered up 3 times while high, still zero sleep. The comedown was comical. Glad you’re off the stuff.

>>9865397
>>9865446
I was prescribed gabapentin for a rekt back. Didn’t help so I stashed it, but it helped a lot with WD, if I took it with Valium.

>>9865451
I remember you, you told me this story before

Christmas is going to be rough....


I stupidly volunteered to cook Christmas dinner for my 9 family members. Never cooked for anyone besides myself and tinder whores.

The worst part is I have to stay sober because I have to drive home afterwords

>>9865465
Yeah I’ve been here for ages. Are you planning to stop drinking as your New Year’s resolution? I’m tapering with 8% in preparation for jan 1st, after which I’m gonna try sticking to weed. Class A and booze are too fucking savage

I'm on Prozac, gabepentin, bus par, naltrexone, propanelol, trazadone

God I hate being a drunk

>>9865481
All of those medications are shit.

Propanelol is only ok if you mix it with benzos. An even then, I would never pay for it.

>>9865479
apparently my wife is leaving me if i dont stop drinking my friday
but the booze is just too damn good

>>9865497
Huh. Mine (albeit gf) left in 2012, almost entirely because of the sauce. Few fucks left to give tbqh.

>>9865416
Why are you people so fucked up?e

I'm not on them to get high m8

>>9865497
She's probably going to leave you anyway if she gave you such a short deadline

Any tips with dealing with the shakes? I work with a computer all day long and the program I use (amadeus) has some really small icons and more than once I could not function simply because I couldnt click the icon,
Before shift drinking is not an option,, but one of my coworkers who was a former alchohol counsoler recommended sugar and b vitamins, because she immediately knew what was up.

Any other suppliments/tips?

>>9865549
benzos

At detox they pretty much force ginger ale on you. And thiamine aka vitamin b1

Keep going and you're gonna have seizures m8

>>9865549
Benzodiazepines fight alcohol withdrawals.
They're addictive and give the same withdrawals, so don't get used to them.

Other solution is to lower your booze consumption to the point where you're not withdrawing at work.

You always need B vitamins (and a few other) as an alkie, especially when withdrawing. Prevent brain damage.

Going my first night without booze in months. Stayed up til 6.30am last night drinking cheap cider and listening to music. Felt like death all day and still don't feel 100%

>>9865559
good to know, thanks. I brought in my mousepad and turned my mouse down to the slowest pointer speed and even that didnt help much.

the worst part is, I'm on the phone with coworkers (thank god its not the public) So If I feel my hands get a little shakey it upsets my anxiety withdrawls making the whole thing worse.

>>9865446
Glad you're off it!

>>9865387
Been dry about... exactly 6 days shy of 6 months. I am a binge sort of alcoholic. Out of pot, and know where drinking leads. Still strongly considering going to get a handle of vodka and time traveling into a worse future.

>>9865477
Cooking is like writing: you do much better while drinking. Either crash there or get an uber.

>>9865577
>time travel
My life for months was nothing but waking in withdrawal, spending half an hour by my front door shaking and puking, trying to find a window of relative healthiness so I could get to the booze shop and back home, where I’d drink for maybe an hour before I’d black out again, and have to do it all over again, what felt like an hour later. That was an intense time.

just searched my car and came up with about 4 dollars in change. gunna buy the cheapest vodka i can later. fuck, boys i need to find some work

>>9865387
Last I drank was on Saturday, gonna be hitting the rum tonight. I figure another 40 minutes when the next hour hits, but I've been staying up so fucking late lately that I ought to start later than that. When I start drinking so early that I start to sober up before passing out, I end up drinking even more for basically no reason since I end up going to sleep 2-3 hours after those last drinks anyways. Anyone else watch History Buffs? They released a new vid, it's about Tombstone.

>>9865585
I think I'll do that, Thanks

>>9865626
Just ask for a couch or a blanket, its fucking Christmas. Wise Anon for not wanting to drive on one of the most heavily patrolled nights of the year.

>>9865577
I'm this guy... if no one says anything in 2 min I am going to go get that handle.

>>9865663
fleichmans here i come.

>>9865673

>>9865663
At least get beer if you must cave.

>general

>>9865387
I had a lovely gf who told me she was pregnant and I proposed on the spot, she said yes. Worse than any nightmare I've ever had because for first time since childhood I was happy and then I woke up.

>>9865654
I don't like sleeping at their house, I think It's haunted and It's very uncomfortable trying to sleep with constant creepy noises and feeling like people are staring at you while you try to sleep.


Also my cat takes medicine every 12 hours so I have to be home to give it to her.

I think I'll either walk or take an uber

>>9865678
LATE.

But, no. No more relapses. I will just get through the day... and the next... and whatever until I get pot and have my motivating reward system back.

>>9865690
I picked up some nice weed today. Only a couple of grams but it’s ferociously strong. I’ve been watching space documentaries all day, so mind blowing while baked.

>>9865685
Hahahhahahahaahahaha. Sorry buddy. Dreams can really mess with the head.

>>9865701
kekd.

That shitty show Ancient Aliens is fucking mind bending while baked

>Have work off until the new year
>Relaxing watching TV and drinking ginger ale & rye and cooking up a storm

comfy af tbhf

>>9865616
How much you drinking?

>>9865702
Yup left out the part where we fucked like rabbits and I woke up rock hard haha

>9864111
>>9863692
How much to you estimate it’d cost? I’d have already gone to Canada as I have connections there, but I’m b&.
Solar panels/hydropower/wind power to run a home would be maybe 30k gbp, water you can collect from the roof, net access would be 17 quid monthly for 40 gigs, a self-build home and smallholding maybe 50k and you can buy a few acres of forest, complete with free firewood, for like 20k after haggling. E.g. woods4sale.co.uk
With a still and some weed in your own woods, you’d never pay bills again other than net access and hookers. No bills, no work. It’s still pricey in the uk though, I bet you could do it a lot more cheaply in the u.s.

There's Kyzenski 'inna-woods' style with beans and rice, and there's cozy.

The US has the terrible blight of healthcare, which makes going off the grid a dream if you don't want to gamble with bankruptcy.

Around here in the Southeast US, I could get a nice cabin and a few acres in the $50k-$100k. It wouldn't be a penthouse, but I'd rather be there than an office. Solar and well water are possible, so your monthly expenses are limited to day to day costs - insurance, vehicles and machinery, tools, food, taxes, booze, etc.

I'm wagering you'd still need around $1k-$2k of cash flow a month. Sadly back in the sticks, that's about a month's worth of work for some people. Almost like it was engineered to keep you in the system and dependent on the greenback ...

>>9865707
Ayyy lmao stuff doesn’t really do it for me, but hearing about stuff like black holes is fun, or documentaries about the ancient world, when concubine grils were given a poison to drink at the time of an emperor’s death thousands of years ago, whose bodies still lay undisturbed in china’s pyramids to this day, is fascinating when high. And hot.

Is biscuits and gravy redpilled?

>>9865721
Dude what , I live in the Southeast and I bought a home and 2 acres of 39k.
I live off the grid almost completely.
I hunt or forage or grow 40% of my food
I use solar power and grow my own crops.
The only thing I pay is for gasoline and property tax (430$ a year)
Well and internet but the bill is 25$ a month
It is entirely possible and encouraged.

>>9865686
How far is it? I'm geograpically lucky so I can avoid DWIs. I can walk to work in 45 minutes, walk to the beach in 20-35 minutes (different beaches) and 15-20 to walk to my local bars.

Just put a few nips in your pocket, or mix something in a soda bottle depending on the length of the walk. You do not want to be fucking around on Christmas night.

St Pats, memorial day, the 4th, halloween, thanksgiving, christmas eve/day, and NYE and you are really pressing your odds of getting pulled over, or driving perfectly and get busted at a road block.

Shit, one of my friends who was an expert drunk driver got bagged because he blew a tire and a cop just happened to stop while he was trying to change it on the side of the road.

>>9865737
Yes, they are from the South
and our biscuits will rise again.

crack dealing as is par for my nights
>be about an hour
>i need a cuban
((my panties wet))

>>9865746
My brother was killed by a drunk driver in 2009. I don't drink one beer and drive 10ft.

I checked the weather and It's only going to be 25F so I'm going to put some vodka in a coke bottle with a little coke and then refill it before I leave my parents house. It's only about 4 miles, Not that bad.

Hopefully it snows so its a nice comfy walk

>>9865750
Go to bed, you are drunk.

>>9865741
I should have mentioned I have a wife and a kid on the way. I'd totally trade them in for a cabin if I could.

Here's something in my neck of the woods - $70k for 13 acres and little old farmhouse
>https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8005-Ky-910-Liberty-KY-42539/2092104568_zpid/

But even without a mortgage, I'd need:

>$400/mo health insurance
>$200/mo food/gas/misc
>$200/mo tax/insurance/etc
>$200/mo to save towards new machinery, car, house improvements, etc.

>>9865757
4 miles is a healthy walk. Feels goodman

>>9865768
Fuck all that
You don't need health insurance.
Survival of the fittest man
but the other seems reasonable.
Except for 200/mo towards new things

Aggressively hunt for bargains
I'm trying to finish insulating my new bathroom
I found full rolls of insulation for 10$ a piece and it is wonderful
I can insulate a whole room for 60$ its cool brother

>>9865757
Im sorry to hear that. 25F and 4 miles will probably be about a 2-3 hour walk. Just make sure you're not stumbling because ice+booze has put me on my ass a bunch of times. Luckily I never hit my head, because I know someone who went game over that way.

You might be able to get a ride, Assuming not everyone at the party is spending the night.

>>9865807
>You don't need health insurance
Thats a huge gamble, especially in an al/ck/ thread. Something as simple as a broken arm could bankrupt you for life.
I went 10 years uninsured doing manual labor. That was fucking risky. Been another 5 in a back office and I only use it for dental (also fucking expensive with insurance) and the occasional checkup.
It's like driving without insurance, or a seat belt any slip up, and you're fucked.
20 year old me would say yes, older, somewhat more wiser me says fuck to the no.

>>9865872
Maybe just skip out on paying?
I do it all the time
Every time I go to the hospital I just refuse to pay.
They quit sending you letters after a couple months
It is in their budget for people who refuse to pay.

I have skipped out on over $6000 of medical bills and have had no repercussions.

>>9865451
yeah I did meth exactly once. Truly terrible. Literally masturbated 10 times in a row, drank 1.5 bottles of rum, and didn't sleep for a night. Basically super adderall. blech

>>9865879
somewhat sorry to say, but same.

you don't have to pay most bills.

>>9865879
That might work, but wont your credit take a hit? I've never had any serious medical issues outside of a root canal.

>>9865852
>Just make sure you're not stumbling because ice+booze has put me on my ass a bunch of times
I use a walking stick, it helps walking straight. Snow is an excuse to use one in town.

>>9865807
I hear ya man, I'm (((merchant-ing)) pretty hard. We're on track to pay off our 30 year mortgage in 2 years (7 years total).

I love a deal and hate spending money. The next hurdle is getting a passive income of $1-2k, then I could be on the path to eternal retirement along with the senpai.

>>9865906
Yep it fucks your credit up real good.

But I imagine a good portion of us here already have rock bottom credit scores.

Fighting the urge to go. I don't want to though. I've just been throwing up all day. There's ice everywhere out there and I'm just waiting to break my skull falling.

>>9865916
I don't even check. Screw credit.

There is no debtors jail anymore. Bills are paper and annoying phonecalls. You don't have to pay many of them ever.

Also, where I am (USA) if you default on a bill for 7 years it is erased. Gone.

>>9865879
>>9865916
>>9865932
This is exactly the attitude I like to see towards these fucking thieves masquerading as "financial institutions" or whatever. Fuck them. Only had a recent experience with debtors but both times I just kinda swallowed the anxiety and thought "fuck them". It worked. I figure they only do this kind of shit because they think you're scared they'll take your kneecaps or some shit so you just pay when threatened. Like, nah motherfucker, you'll have to prize what you want out of my cold dead hands, come at me.

Bought some vodka today and orange juice, but i just can't drink alot of it. what strategy do i have to take to not be able to walk normally anymore? Just drink pure?

>>9865952
Tell them you have no money to give them, and that it is costing them to chase you. Do it in writing and they just leave you be.

>>9865962
Gotta add normally i just drink 2 bottles of wine or smoke weed. So i'm not used to drinking the hard liquor.

>>9865962
Grab a shotglass
and a red solo cup

Fill cup halfway with vodka then top off with orange juice.
Do a shot and then chase it with a hearty sip of the cup.
Do a shot before you drink each cup
Before you know it you will have downed a fifth and get a bit shitfaced.
Also pro-tip
Vodka + Cranberry
or
Vodka + Grapefruit
Is even better than vodka screwdrivers.

>>9865387
I had a nightmare the other night where I was invited to a party but it turned out they were only out to steal my organs.

Also is it a bad thing if I drink one drink and it takes me an incredible amount of self-restraint to not drink more and more until I pass out?

>>9865966
To be fair in both my cases it seems like a fuck up on part of a company; one was the NHS saying I'd filled in some shit wrong for free prescriptions, the other a gym I quit ages back saying I owed for months I'd not been... Even though I cancelled the direct debit. Still, I get the fucking schtick of these assholes, they just try to be intimidating, think anyone will just pay.

What sickens me is that we have this bullshit reality TV show over here "Can't Pay We'll Take It Away" which is clearly reinforcing that crap and making out like it's entertainment that these Shylock motherfuckers have a job in bullying people for money. Shit's just wrong. Entire fucking system is wrong. Need more just saying "fuck it all" like us, frankly.

>>9865962
>>9865974
By your 4th cup you should be gettin pretty faded unless you are hardcore and then just keep making them till the bottle is gone.

>>9865982
>Also is it a bad thing if I drink one drink and it takes me an incredible amount of self-restraint to not drink more and more until I pass out?

Where do you think you are?

That said, screwed up nightmare, man, how graphic was it? Hate the nightmares I get, sometimes I think I just drink so I don't dream and risk that shit.

>>9865982
No, because you claim to have that self-control

I fail to do that
I do not care if it is a babyshower or a fucking funeral. If I see an open bar you better bet i will be blacked out half naked cuddling with a bottle and a skirt under the table.
Thats just pathetic and i am pathetic.

>>9865952
Not to get /pol/ but Im increasingly concerned about consumer protections under the current administration. I'm worried about my student loans (one is behind and the other is deffered) been making payments for 15 years on those fuckers but had a rough year financially. (car repairs, dental work, etc.) The little things that can put the working poor on their ass real quick. Ive been working for the same company for 12 years. Granted my booze/cigs/weed habit is expensive, but I've been able to hold it together until this year. I see myself in a vulnerable place that I hope to correct next year by cleaning up my act a bit.

>>9865974
>>9865987

it's really going at a slow pace, only 150ml or so of the vodka is gone so far in like 2 hours. Will try this.

>>9866010
it works man
50/50 liquor and juice
and do a shot before you start on each cup

You will drink 500-750ml within 2-3 hours guaranteed.

>>9866008
>current administration

I mean, I don't know all that much about what that truly means in the US but I know here in the UK that translates to "shit has been the same for ten years with a different figurehead at the front". Won't get fixed, it just won't. My honest to God advice? Learn some survival skills and make moves to go off grid in the next five years. Dead serious. Can't fucking wait to move to the countryside, city living is just cancer. It's completely at odds with what we should be doing as humans, completely spirit destroying.

>>9866013
It's working, thanks man. Surprised i can still type somewhat normally though (english is not my first language).

Send help. I thought I’d pretend to be middle class, so went all the way to the toilet to piss. Got back like 20 minutes ago and still getting my breath back. Thing is, as soon as I collapsed painfully back into bed, I realised my water jug is empty. I can’t move again, it’d kill me, please someone do a rain dance.

The fire is directed at my soul until my eyes close again

>>9866044
relax... you now have a piss jug. You can live for days without water. Are you out of booze?

>>9866050
No I’ve got some nice diuretic cider, but my god, the thirst, this is suffering

>>9866053
You will be fine. I don't have any alcohol and can't have any. Take comfort in what you got (alcohol and a piss jug). Don't dwell on what you don't have (water, a good memory for which jug has piss in it).

good luck!

>>9866050
not to sound like a /b/tard, but what color was your piss? You might be seriously dehydrated.

>>9865387
am i an alcoholic if i've been drinking one or two beers every night?

>>9866033
good to hear man

>>9866062
Alright. I’m going in. Wish me luck.
>Warface
>Puffs out chest, eyes strut around room winking at posters of grils
>screams: LETS FUCKING DO THIS THING.
>pops can of K, continues laying on floor, but this time feeling like a hero
Still thirsty desu ;_;

>>9865982
>Also is it a bad thing if I drink one drink and it takes me an incredible amount of self-restraint to not drink more and more until I pass out?
You still have some self control. Without, it's full blown alkie who is either dry as a desert or blackout drunk.
Alcoholism will break any modicum of self control you have left. Stop while you can.

Nightmare can be a symptom of withdrawals.

>>9866075
What happens when you don't drink for a few days?

>>9865982
>Also is it a bad thing if I drink one drink and it takes me an incredible amount of self-restraint to not drink more and more until I pass out?

That's at least two thirds of the people that lurk in al/ck/ thread. At least.

>>9866090
i just crave it, like right now. i desire the crispness and the bitterness. right now

Wait, what the f... when the hell fid i last shower? It just this moment occurred to me that I’m not sure if I’ve showered once in like 6 months. It just hasn’t crossed my mind

>>9866099
The smell didn't give you a hint?

>>9866099
Do other people complain about how bad you smell?

>>9866098
Anxiety? Shaky hands? Sweat?

>>9866109
not one of these things lol

>>9866105
Not him but you never smell your own smell, because you're used to it all the time.
At best, you smell you home when you come back from outside for long enough. If he only goes out to buy booze it's too short.

Welp I got an ulcer so its time for me to lay off the booze for a while

>>9866033
How ya feeling?

>>9866124
>not having literally thousands of ulcers due to excessive drinking, and drinking regardless
Would you like that horrifyingly uncomfortable pea removed from under your mattress too? Poor dumpling

>>9866143
Just because you've fucked yourself doesn't mean I need to fuck myself.
Sorry you're so mad about your life it leaks onto the internet

>>9866158
Calm down bro

>>9865717
On Saturday I drank around 16-18oz of 57.1% booze, half of it within an hour. Tonight, 7oz (210ml) of said strength of rum within the first hour, and about 2.5oz (75ml or so) in less than 45 minutes after that.

>>9866163
I am calm

>>9866099
Dude, just go shower. You'll feel better and amazing if your half in the bag. bring a beer with you.

How do people interact with you when you're out buying booze, do the clerks look disgusted? do they other shoppers stay well away from you? Just take a goddamn shower, it takes like 10 minutes.

Anyone else a former athlete?

Pre booze, I was training 5 days a week, practicing 3 days a week, playing 2 days a wee, reffing another day or two, and working and going to school.

Now my release is just booze. How'd I do that? How do I get back there?

Not sure if alcoholic.

I have no alcohol 1 out of 3 days, but I work 24 hour shifts on those days.

The other 2/3 days I have 8+ shots throughout the day/evening and feel like death the next morning.

BOTHER ME !
TELL ME AWFUL THINGS
YOU KNOW I LOVE IT WHEN YOU MOVE THAT ON ME

Haven't worked for a month and have drunk myself half to death. Have hardly been able to move out of bed without throwing up. Life is too shit though for me to care so will try getting drunk again tomorrow. Hate being sober so much.

>>9866249
Please google “recovery position”

>>9866267
I get it girl, I'm not the one.

>>9866016
This guy has a detached ‘house’, free electricity and water, a work shed and 5 acres in England, for £15k I think he said. The average house price is about £225k

https://youtube.com/watch?v=lD54W6cJKOM

Just a shame it’s illegal. If you can do it for a few years without any complaints though, you can get planning permission and you’ll be left alone. The land once it has planning permission must be worth millions

legs and arms hurt probably alcoholic polyneuropathy i dont care i keep drinking !!!!

>>9866168
calmer than you are

>>9866044
thats a macabre situation. i pity you.

>>9866206
try to find things to do other than drink. job, relationship, ... i dont know. go for walks. get a pet. something.

>>9866243
yeah, if your go-to activity when not at work is drinking to excess, youve got a problem to deal with. of course youre not as bad along as many, but its bad enough.

>>9866392
You are not an alcoholic.

Alcoholics have No joy without alcohol. There is always something missing.

crack dealing as is par for my nights
>be about an hour
>i need a cuban
((my panties wet))

>>9865761
>drunk in an al/ck/ thread
>you are talking to a droog dealer
>on 4chin
go home reddit

>>9866137
Being drunk or overall? Normally i tend to go for weed to relax, i tend to go for drinks to be able to feel. Feeling good so far man. How about you? :)

>>9866418
You're so cool

>>9866392
I have 2 dogs, 2 cats, chickens, a wife, a kid on the way, a shitty 9-5, and a wood&metal working hobby.

M-F, all I do is wake up, sit on the pc, go to woke on the pc, then come home and get drunk af on the pc.

Alcoholism is a goddamn marathon and the liquor is the champion.

>>9866418
kys

>>9866422
Panicky, No alcohol left and no gas in the car and no money.
Really worried.

>>9866249
Hell yea dude I bump Lil Peep when solo drinking

>>9866431
then decrease, ever so slightly, the time you dedicate to drinking while increasing at the converse ratio the time you do those other things

>>9866440
if you make it out of this situation alive, in the future try to remember how shit it was, and TRY to stick with BEER and sometimes WINE when you drink. It will never leave you as totally FUCKED as when you run out of hard liquor after a bender.

>>9866440
Damn, sorry to hear that man. If you have a digibyte wallet i can send 10 bucks worth of digibyte coins to you, but if not i hope you get trough the night.

I had alcoholism but I went to jail for drunk driving. Cured me right up.

>>9866459
I appreciate the sentiment but what is digibyte?

>>9866385
>when it’s 3.30am, you’ve been dreaming for hours that a glacier spring cascades next to your bed, thousands of litres per minute of frosty, glistening mineral water from your own, personal alp
>then wake to realise you’re so thirsty you’re scared to move for fear of spontaneous combustion, only water source within slobbing distance is a cactus
>finish eating cactus, enough water for 5 minutes, wake again, a groan so thunderous and all-encompassing blasts through your soul, every cell in your body is made from dust, ash flows through your veins, you’ve simply no choice, you HAVE to have water
>slither using your 1 functioning brain cell, on eyelids and toes to nearest tap, cry fifteen times with hopelessness as putting water in a cup now requires godlike effort
>finally manage to fill one, drink those first few gulps, and suddenly water is the greatest thing you’ve ever tasted, is more satisfying than any orgasm, more delicious than any cordon bleu, simply the nectar of every hot goddes crotch, collected and sprayed into every organ, every cell
>fall asleep again, bliss
>piss self, wake 2 hours later in withdrawal
Happy days

OH FUCK YES
I found a can of whipped cream
It has nitrous oxide in it.
Time to figure out how to get it.

I hold it upside down and inhale right?

>>9866477
You will never write that novel. BACK IN THE BOTTLE.

>>9866486
Better if you stick it up your bum desu

I would like to drink to avoid all this pain and suffering but I've never done something like this will that help me with it? Anway I'm planning on ending my life so I don't really car about stuff should I start drinking? Help..

The water is never cold enough right anon?

Fuck I know that feel

>>9866500
go ahead

you can always kill yourself later

>>9866500
yeah man dubs confirms your plan is solid.
drinking can help extend your current life trajectory by a year or two desu.

>>9866511
What should I start drinking then? Recommendations pls

>>9866522
Spritzers!

Kidding. All alcoholics drink vodka.

>>9866474
A cryptocurrency that's probably gonna hit 1 dollar in 2018, it's at around 3 cents atm, but i bought some at a whim, even though i was skeptical about "internet coins".

>>9866552
5 cents, sorry.

Is this al/ck/ approved?

$9.99 for a handle
Less than 16¢ a shot
Does this take the record for cheapest liquor?

>tfw got caught by my neighbor taking out a full months worth of handles
>"had a party huh?"
>haha...yea small one


Fucking god damn clear trash bags

>>9866619
You can find Mr. Boston at that price. Fleichmans can be had even cheaper if you mail in the rebates.

>>9866631
>Fleichmans can be had even cheaper if you mail in the rebates.

>degenerate alcoholics
>being capable of mailing in rebates

>>9866635
it can be done. the trick is you can't think of it as mail... it's liquor!

>>9866631
I can't drink yeast

0+9hey it worked~
kinda weak
but its sure is whippets

>>9866477
I lik u
You should see a doc, extreme thirst is a sign of diabetes iirc.

>>9866486
You need nitrous oxide can thingy and a syphon, not one sealed with cream.

>>9866500
Drinking will momentarily help. It will help so much life will appear bright again, and you will want to live.
Then everything will fuck up, including your health, you'll have withdrawals that can only be described as a week long visit to Hell and after years of suffering you'll die in terrible pain because you're now afraid of death.
Go ahead. Maybe you'll stop while your can, we all thought we would.

>>9866619
>>9866631
80 proof vodcka doesn't do it for me so i spring for nikolai 100 proof

>>9866313
Why is it illegal? Self sustainability should be encouraged in every sense unless it's just the government afraid of losing it's grip on people. I fear I answered my own question

>>9866643

>>9866766
I stopped. Now about 5 days shy of six months sober. Might not seem a lot, but I did it.

>>9866800
Not him, but how do you feel? Considering you're still in this topic i assume you see it as an ex-gf. Someone you still ocassionally miss, but know you can't be with anymore?

I kind of botched my taper and definitely drank my daily allotted 800ml-1l already. I’m going to ask to tbell and try and stick to “DUDE LMAO” for the evening until I fall asleep.
On the bright side my gf got to borderline screaming/throwing a fit drunk and I managed to get her to bed without any trouble. All is calm in my household desu.

>>9866821
*walk to tbell

>>9866477
>take a few gulps of water
>let a guttural moan
>WATERSSS OF LIFE THIS IS THREE DOG OWWWWWWW
I've actually done this

>>9866792
It’s about planning permission. You’re not allowed to build anything even on residential land without permission from the local council, which can be an absolute minefield. Trying to get it for woodland, even your own, is near enough impossible. People are only getting away with it by being meticulously careful not to piss anyone off, so the council gets no complaints from the public and they might leave you alone.

>>9866813
Life is still a mess. Now it is a mess where something comforting is always missing.

It slightly beats detoxing after every week long bender. I'm still seeking alternatives and everyone still around me has no idea how much danger they are in to be honest.

>>9866800
Congrats.
You did the hardest, now comes the longest.

>>9866860
That part sucks. Nothing to look forward to as far as mood control (at least the illusion of it) goes.

>start having alcoholic hallucinosis
>cracks in the wall start spelling out messages to me
>everybody screaming at me and trying to run me over as i go to the liquor store
>fictional characters talking to me from the air vents at home
>get my fifth
>swallow down a few gulps
>completely sane again
wtf is this shit, it's like schizophrenia

>>9865429
Dude will you please post a picture of the baby bobcat? I’m intrigued.

>>9866836
Probably have the same shit but I live in the southern US so there's so much empty land it's impossible for anyone to give a shit or even know

>>9866882
I ran screaming from a hospital, didn’t even take my clothes, just shoes and phone. I tried to get a cab, but the driver took one look at me, said “of you look like that I think you should stay in hospital”, and drove off. I found a corner shop then walked miles on the beach to get back home, drinking vodka in a hospital gown, hid at home and refused all contact with anyone. Ended up with like 50 new phobias which lasted months, some still freak me out today. DTs are fucking cruelly intense.

>>9866908
IF I can find my phone then sure but I cant take a pic without it. i may look for it later.

>>9866908
It likes to do squirrel impressions

>>9866930
do not pretend to be me damnit you do not own a bobcat
Fucking gnome

No-one listen to this poster for he is a gnome trying to steal my identity.

gonna stay sober for a few days and save up money over heroin + benzos overdose

I would literally give the rest of my life to prematurely ejaculate inside circa 2008 Amy Lee

>>9866911
How much do you estimate it’d cost, in a climate befitting of both solar panels and home grown vegetables?
I suspect a lot of people don’t realise how small England is, I can drive from Brighton on the south coast to Carlisle on the Scottish border, in 6 hours. Just isn’t enough space here.

>>9866964
Sounds great. I'd ease into it like a hot bath.

>>9866821
hey man, as long as you are trying to shut off the fuckup before it grows legs and really fucks you over.

>>9866987
I can’t wait to see whether this girl is hot when she’s 18. Simply impossible to tell atm because I’m not some kind of perv.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WKH3J2QpKe0

>>9867027
nah. she looks like the type to get rape murdered early.

>>9866991
I live in South Carolina you can get acreage under $30k (4 acres or so) most places and still be close enough to civilization no problems with crops or sun and our winters will remind you of home.

>>9867058
Sounds pretty awesome. I hope you have sensible weed laws there, but they can’t be any worse than the uk.
The lack of health insurance troubles me, but less so when I consider that guns are legal. Risking having no insurance is fine as long as life has an ‘off’ switch

>>9867108
Most work around me provide good insurance your kinda fucked if you work for a mom and pop type place though. Weed is illegal but if you're not dealing or an asshole you'll just be fined or they'll just confiscate it.

>>9867026
What did you mean by this, homie?

>>9867058
Cola/Greenville isn't civilization you stupid inbred hick
>>9867108
LMAO

>>9867171
I live in the low country

i have a question
after a heavy night of drinking and prepping for the inevitable hangover, I usually wake up feeling )relatively) OK

But after after I eat anything I feel like Im gonna die, the anxiety and panic starts to kick in.

I'm dying, aren't I?

>>9867213
I forgot to mention that if I don't anything the day after, I feel pretty good, but yea the minute I eat anything it's full-on panic and anxiety

>>9867222
It’s so difficult to find this flailing autist attractive even with what is blatantly a tasty bod

>>9866964
by itself thats not exactly foolproof unless you take a shitload. especially if you have taken both before; your body will be somewhat tolerant to the drugs in that case. its not uncommon for people to try to overdose that way and end up braindead because they didnt quite die.

best way is to take those and ALSO shoot yourself or jump off a building.

>>9867213
I get late hangovers too. I wake up fine and then it creeps up on me. Everybody's different I guess.

50 days sober, boys. in all probability, i'll resume drinking once i'm back home ~1 month from now, but it's been a mostly welcome break.

>>9865397
gabapentin sux, man. i used to be prescribed 1.8g/day a couple years ago for anxiety and alcoholism. taking enough makes you feel some type of way, but the effect was minimal and it just made me feel stupid. memory impairment, brain fog, lack of information retention, etc. i will say it did help stave off alcohol cravings for as long as i could feel the effects, though.

>>9867159
i meant, going to taco bell rather than keep drinking more is a good way to avoid a worse hangover or a worse withdrawal later.

>>9867273
my dad takes gaba for his cancer, it's like he has dementia

>>9867273
How was the withdrawal? Thats a huge dose.

>>9867272
late hangovers arent hangovers, they are withdrawal symptoms.

>>9867273
Don't take this as a troll attempt. Maybe you sincerely are stupid and the drug just made you aware of your everyday buffoonery

>>9867241
I respectfully disagree

God I just want the throwing up to be over. This is agonizing.

>>9867289
huh, really? I thought I was just waking up still drunk. I don't get the shakes or anything, just nausea and headache, usually avoid throwing up except from exceptional binges

>>9867313
Throwing up was something I looked forward to. Only time I felt any better was for a few min after puking during day two withdrawls.

>>9867299
Anyone who posts unironically in this type of thread is stupid, don't kid yourself.

>>9867318
It doesn't make me feel better at all. The bile is killing my throat too.

My landlord is coming by tomorrow for an inspection and I've been in bed throwing up all day and smell like piss. My desk is full of empty vodka bottles too. I'm fucked.

>>9867324
What about people who post ironically?

>>9867287
my doctor gave me a one-off script of kpins to take as i tapered off the gabapentin, so the "withdrawal" phase was actually pretty fucking sweet. it was indeed a fairly high dose, but note that gabapentin has a serious diminishing effect with increased dosage. from the FDA label:

>Gabapentin bioavailability is not dose proportional; i.e., as dose is
increased, bioavailability decreases. Bioavailability of gabapentin is approximately 60%, 47%, 34%, 33%, and 27% following 900, 1200, 2400, 3600, and 4800 mg/day given in 3 divided doses, respectively.

>>9867299
considering i was drunk every day, it may have attuned me to the mental effects of my drinking along with any effect from the gabapentin itself. it's a pretty well-documented side effect, though.

>>9867337
.../hoc/?

>>9867317
Oh, i forgot about waking up still drunk. Ok. To be clear, then, withdrawals include cold skin with sweats, anxiety, sometimes shakes, lack of appetite, bigtime insomnia.

>>9867343
cool that your doc knew of the withdrawal. my prescribing doc didnt warn me. but based on online reports plus my own, gabapentin withdrawal is similar to benzo/alcohol withdrawal.

>>9867346
Yea I'm a night owl. I often don't start til 11pm and drink til 3am or later. I don't actually consider myself an alck yet more of an abuser. I can go a while without but once I pop, I can't stop.

Had $4 in nickels yesterday for booze and the dude behind me in line felt bad and bought it for me

Back on my 1800 mg of gabepentin and prozac

>>9867343
Oops I'm busted

>picked up a bottle of Toki Suntory whisky that I was going to give to my dad for Christmas
>got depressed today and drank the whole thing
GOD DAMNIT THAT SHIT COST ME $50 AND I'M STILL SAD WTF

>>9867405
This seems to happen a lot. I did it too.

>>9867405
>Toki Suntory
don't worry that shit fucking sucks anyway. go pick up something nice like jefferson's reserve bourbon.

>>9867372
dude, how is gabapentin even helping if you are that desperate for booze? also that dose is so high you cant get off it without a long taper.

>>9867435

No idea man. I'm on 6 different meds. 9 days until I get money. Gonna go downtown and score some crack or speed and a fuck ton of booze

Fighting withdrawals right now. The anxiety is fucking me up.

What do you guys recommend in terms of water temperature for dealing with nausea? Room temp? Ice?

>>9867503
At detox it's ice water

>>9867503
ice water, and lay on your right hand side. The stomachs shape makes this the best position for nausea

>>9867453
what are your options to make it easier?

>>9867545
Time.

>>9867548
thats a newbie method. beer taper takes you down easier. gives your body time to adjust.

>>9867548
>>9867551
http://hams.cc/taper/

>>9867551
I'm broke as fuck and I don't drive, so carrying beer home isn't an option.

>>9867554
do you have access to any benzos like valium or xanax? any benadryl?

Longest hiccup record?

Lol I've been on an hour and it's hell

>>9867573
no idea, but ive ended up punching myself (hard) in the neck and jaw to get it to stop.

>>9867573
repeat the word hiccup out loud over and over. That should make them go away in about 2 min. You can talk your diaphram into not contracting by talking.

Have you guys ever pissed yourselves?

>>9867027
Is she autistic?

>>9867586
Who hasnt? 8 bottles of ice house made me piss myself once. it was in this gay guys bed so i didnt give a shit. he kept trying to play with my balls.

I'm about to lose my dad, my best friend. He doesn't even recognize me even though I've been caring for him this past year.

>>9867586
Yup. Had a seizure and pissed myself in girlfriends bed

>>9867591
Weird, how different all our lives are. My dad was basically an extra-terrestrial to me. Completely different in so many ways. No contact in years.

I'm sorry for your loss. It's really tough to lose loved ones. Take some comfort in that everyone goes through it, if that helps.

>>9867591
Jesus Dude thats tough. If its worth anything your post reminds me to appreciate my dad while he is in decent health

Gotta get my shit together. Fentanyl junkie quit cold turkey 3 weeks ago but havent been sober.
Been drinking and did a shit ton of coke tonight im fuckipn tweaked

Any1 else coked the fuck out?

>>9867608
grow up. coke is a childs drug. stop fucking around man.

>>9867608
The strongest move is never the first move

>>9867586
Worse. I got blackout drunk and felt so there i am hanging with my head in the toilet pot waiting to get to puke. Not shortly after i couldn't remember what happened after. Suddenly i was in the room with my friends.

But apperently i vomitted over every wall, even the top parts of all of the wall till the floor, in the toilet room.

10 minutes later i neededto take a quick piss and i shouted to my roommates who in the actual fuck managed to puke ALL the fucking walls in the toilet; i was fucking furious because i believed someone couldn't puke every fucking wall by accident, mustve been on purpose and they said it was me that did it since i was the only one that went.

>>9867606
>>9867608
I've already grieved, just felt like telling someone. It came so suddenly.It's only been a week I can tell what's left of his mind is trying to kill himself. This was his worst nightmare about death he knew was coming. I think whats left of his lucid mind is refusing food and drink to figuratively rip the bandaid off and not linger.

Fucking hell I was sober and I fucked it up. Now I'm reliving withdrawals all over again.

>>9867613
Its crazy this is my first time doing coke in literal years and years and my combo of coke booze and cannabis oil has been a wild spiritual trip filled with insight and revelations

>>9867575
Sounding like the best option

>>9867663
the types of revelations that turn people into bums living under bridges.

>>9867648
quite possible.

>>9867692
Lol u grumpy guy

>>9865387

I envy alcoholics. I drink one tall glass and I get slumpy, not even drunk, and the closer I get to to drunk, I don't become any more joyful. If I forced myself to get drunk I'd just feel shittier.

>>9867591
If you are happy then you need to show him you're happy.
The world keeps on turning and the smartest people are still trying to figure out why.
Stay cool, but don't forget how to launch. Coming from some old burn dogs

>>9867704
envy them all you want. just remember alcoholics have to deal with the hell that is withdrawals. days in bed, soaking the sheets with sweat, too anxious to answer the door/phone, heart beating like an earthquake, too sick to eat for 3+ days, puking all the time.

>>9867564
I have xanax but I hate taking them. I did anyway because I couldn't handle that shit though.

>>9867716
xanax doesnt last long but at least it will help for a short while. you had better google Hams beer taper and find money to buy a 24 pack, soon.

>>9867718
and drink some water / gatorade

>>9867718
Well I don't have anything else and I'll take anything over that torture right now.

>>9867729
yeah man. but now why you are feeling better, its a good time to take a vitamin ,drink some water, and try to get some food down. it will help a lot.

>>9867733
How long does this shit take to kick in. Fucking hell I'm going insane. Also worried I'm going to throw it up.

>>9867740
Kicks in quite fast

Less than 20 mins if not quicker

>>9867740
For future reference, you can always make yourself throw up with two fingers far down the throat. do it until you dont feel sick anymore. usually takes me like 5 barfs in one sitting.

but for now, unless you puke, it shouldnt take more than 20 minutes. make sure to hydrate when it kicks in.

>>9867705
I know this. What I have trouble dealing with is knowing he'd rather be dead then go through what he currently has to.

Fun fact: Cocaine and Alcohol Chemically react in your belly to create a new substance called cocaethylene that gets you even more mashed.

>>9867754
Yeah I know. I used to be bulimic. Its just too late to throw up now.

>>9867766
and has a 20x higher chance of giving you a heart attack than cocaine.

>>9867777
Go easy on the booze obv

https://youtu.be/6OrtLxsqSic

The xanax might have been a mistake. Heart palpitations, dizziness and sweating like a fucking pig.

>>9867881
benzos dont cause those things.

>>9867881
You may just want to call an ambulance if you cant get Xanax to work for you. Sweating badly and heart issues + dizziness is a bad sign. How much were you drinking?

>>9867893
A mickey a day.

>>9867894
Ok, so if your xanax was .25 or .5 mg, thats not going to be enough to really help. 1 or 2 mg should have cut into the w/d to a degree that helped.

Ive called ambulances on myself a number of times for drunk or alcohol issues. also called them for other people while working security. also seen ambulances called for any number of reasons. Nobody will blame you or talk down on you. It's just going to take like 6 hours total for the whole ordeal, if you choose to go that route. But alcohol withdrawal wont go away just because you want it to.

>>9867898
Goddamnit, I was JUST there for this shit. They're sick of seeing me.

Downed a beer after not drinking water all day. Felt good so I decided to make this monster. Almost wish I didn't quit smoking to have a ciggy with it. Drank it while flaming with a metal straw.

Ay lads, I have a general question based on experience.
Both my parents would drink, essentially, the same thing from their 30s into their 60s: couple of coronas, couple shots of cuervo, and some wine with dinner--they'd vary drinks based on the time of year (gin and tonics, margaritas, etc.) but they ultimately ended up drinking the same amount every night. Completely functional, going to bed around 9-10 and waking up at 5-6 every morning. Mom's a banker, retiring next year, and my dad was a self employed contractor who did fucking great work. Dude built, by himself, a rental next to ours. I helped him rebuild another house from the ground up later on.
Thing is, I obviously caught onto alcohol early, around 18, and they were cool with me drinking at that age so long as I didn't do anything dumb. And I didn't. I've never blacked out. But I drank in excess by quite a bit for 2-4 years. I'm down to 3 beers a night now. Can I just do 3 beers for the rest of my life, given my parent's background?
Sorry for blogpost. I've managed to mostly give myself anxiety and become a hypochondriac since I started having nerve issues in my arm.

>>9867951
I've also done a couple of sober stints for a year or so before ultimately coming back. I don't feel hungover in the morning and I'm generally fine during the day. I just know that quitting would help my anxiety and I'm wondering if I should just call it all together. I also take kratom a few times during the day which seems to make me feel better about my anxiety.

>>9867951
You'll probably be fine as long as you don't drink any more than 3 beers a day. I think my nutrition textbook reccomended 3 drinks a day for men and 2 drinks for women.

>>9867968
Thanks m8. That's generally what I've read as well, but the "drinks" that it takes into account are 4-5% abv and I do enjoy my craft beers, especially seasonal ones. I think I'm just in my head too much about it.

Thankfully the heart palpitations stopped, I decided to ride them out instead of going to the hospital. I was likely also having a panic attack.

>>9867704
We don't know joy either.

>>9867881
That's alcohol/benzo withdrawals. You're tapering too fast. Take more benzo.

>>9867586
i actually have never pissed myself from alcohol. kind of surprised me to learn so many alchies/people who just get too fucked up do, as i haven't pissed myself since i had a single digit age. if only my penile continence carried over into sex...

>>9868155
I’ve only ever pissed myself when blackout wasted on tequila. For some reason it’s only tequila that does that to me.

Does gravol work for the nausea?

>>9868210
maybe, it works for some people at least but in my experience it doesn't do much. i've also tried prescription anti-nausea meds like zofran and reglan but even those only help so much. only benzos or alcohol will relieve it fully.

today's the day. haven't drank for 11 days. longest i've ever gone. thankfully i hope i'm not sober until after New Year's.

hang in there, you degenerate bastards. the holidays are almost over.

>>9867777
checked

I punched a hole through my parents wall already on my Christmas visit

>>9868155
never pissed myself no matter how drunk or faded I've been. I did piss myself from sheer exhaustion during a period I was sober. I even ha dthe waterfall dream and everything/ I was 1 month out from finishing my capatone course in college. I didnt wake up ven though my GF tried tried to, she slept on the couch that night.

Seriously is it possible to listen to nessun dorma and stay sober? Why are these feels so feelful?

I love how my fucking landlords can just barge into my apartment and then tell me they could be here anywhere from 8 a.m - 4:30 p.m. Fuck that noise.

I'm too hungover for this shit.

>>9867586
Story time
My cousin used to bang his future wife in the dorms. He was a bit of a drinker. He would sleep naked but she had pajamas. She was convinced that she was pissing herself for over a year when it was my cousin the whole time. Lmao
Also I litteraly pissed myself 4 hours ago

>>9868557
The last time I pissed myself I was projectile vomiting so hard I couldn't keep it in. Shit sucked.

>>9867586
I only have once. After endless vodka and Valium. I think I’m trained even when unconscious, to spark up 2 or 3 brain cells so that I can grab my trusty pisschalice, which I take everywhere with me and always have within grabbing reach. Even if I walk to the toilet to empty it, while stood in front of the toilet, I’ll piss in the jug.

>>9868488
They should be courteous and let you know the previous day, at least. If they can't even call you or leave a note you need a new place.

>>9868580
Well they did let me know on the 19th, but I'm still not happy about it. I'd been going through some bad withdrawals and couldn't muster up the strength to clean my messy ass apartment. I didn't even know apartments did "routine inspections" while their tenants still lived there.

>>9867509
>>9867537

is cold shit some biological thing? I have to have the coldest drinks and tasty treats when I'm coming out of a fucked or it's all wrong

>>9868235
Lol how's it going now?

How many times do I got to brush my teeth to keep the alcohol smell away?

>>9866358
This guy gets it

>>9868621
I always crave ice water and fresh fruit when I'm withdrawing. Too bad I barely have any food in my apartment.

>>9865549
Load up on magnesium

>>9868628
It doesn't work like that, mate. The alcohol smell on your breath comes from your lungs as your body processes the alcohol in your blood. Alcohol in the blood means a bit of remnants get expelled when you exhale.

You don't get rid of it until you don't have much booze in your system. You can only cover it up with, say, garlic, onions, or strong enough mints.

My insides hurt.

AH BLOO BLOO I CANT STOP DRINKING

LOOK AT THIS INVISIBLE HAND FORCING TO CHUG THIS CUP OF POISON AH BLOO BLOOO POOR ME

You faggots are as pathetics as landwhales, LMAO

>>9868727
Join the club

>>9868581
>I didn't even know apartments did "routine inspections" while their tenants still lived there.
They do when they suspect the tenant to be a raging alcoholic susceptible to trash the place...

>>9867503
I prefer room temp, it's easier on the stomach. I'd drink water at body temp if it wasn't for logistics.

>>9868628
Alcohol is in the blood and exit via the lungs (like oxygen & carbon dioxide). That's why cops use breathalyser : you can't cheat them.
Rinse your mouth with water after a sip of vodka and that's about it. Wait for your liver to get rid of ethanol. You can try to add stronger scents to confuse people (garlic, mint, perfume, grime, etc).

>>9868727
What's your point? We know we're pathetic alkies.

>>9868727
Landwhales probably have a stronger addiction. Alcohol is just more dangerous to quit physically.

Oh and neck yourself faggot

>>9868743
>They do when they suspect the tenant to be a raging alcoholic susceptible to trash the place...
Well there's nothing wrong with my apartment.

>>9868747
So you are even more pathetic than landwhales? Top kek

>>9868779
You can literally die from withdrawals, but you're just shitposting anyway, so whatever.

>>9868779
>think someone is pathetic
>have to tell them
Even worse, dude. You sound like a kid in a playground.

New thread
>>>9868797

>>9868794
OMG I CAN LITERALLLY DIE POOR ME CHUG CHUG CHUG CHUG

LMAO

>>9868798
You faggots should go do this pathetic self pity circlejerk on r9k, thats were pathetic faggots go

>>9868816
You having fun there, buddy?

>>9868743
I'm,just gonna start eating raw garlic like a freak

is it too early in the day to drink until i pass out?

>>9869517
It's always booze time somewhere in the world Anon.

What's worse for your liver
heavy drinking spread over a few days, or that same amount all on one day?

>>9869990
the latter