/ck/ - Food & Cooking

if you go to the ER for detox will they automatically send you to some overnight facility? is there a better than 50% chance of that happening?

i would fucking go if they would give me an Rx for diazepam and send me on my way, but i don't want to get sectioned

>>9838535
they wont automatically do anything. the doctors ask you how you wish to proceed.

ive had a couple doctors that asked me to keep drinking until a detox spot opened up, and a few others that just prescribed librium for me to take home.

im so fucking tired of everything and this is supposed to be the best period of my life

>>9838556
Protip: there is no best period. Whatever helps you fall asleep at night. Whether that is creating sentient beings who will soon face the hell of life, or knitting, or raising cats, whatever.

>>9838545
wait rewind, they ask you how to proceed BUT then they tell you to keep drinking until a detox opened up? i assume you agreed to this? or can you be like fuck that man give me the librium

>>9838585
Yes, the doctor sat down and chatted with me. the detox had a waiting time. He offered me a benzo script to detox or i could keep drinking. in order to not abuse the system i opted to keep drinking beer.

>>9838592
interesting

You guys are pathetic and this should really be a /soc/ thread.

>>9838618
i hope you get buried alive in a mass grave you fucking nigger loving jew

>>9838618
You are naive and have no idea what suffering alcoholics go through.

>>9838517
Problem is they also have benzo addicts and can't just give them free drugs.

>>9838535
They can only force you if you're dangerous to yourself or others. Otherwise you have a choice.
(Details of application depends on state/country/if you're at risk of deadly DT/your insurance)

>>9838618
Thanks, we know. However, this is /ck/ tradition because half the staff in kitchens is either drunk or on coke.
So you set up a filter if you don't like these threads. It's in [Settings] top right.

Did not know there was a new thread but any help with alkies with onetis that you seen or anything that helps? Some one mentioned this in the last thread that my drinking problem I have created can be solved by dealing with the grief sober and not just slamming vodka and that will fix the unbalance i have in my head with feeling happy, so again with the question above, anything that helps? I am more sad about my family loss than the failed relationship a year prior.

>>9838702
dude, learn to use paragraph breaks, first of all.

secondly, drinking over a girl (or guy) is lame.

nut up and get over it.

>>9838702
therapist or CBT

try "feeling good" by david burns md to get a start

can't say it worked much for me, im drunk as shit after 3 hardcore medical detoxes that cost thousands of dollars

PS paragraph breaks got scared away by ppl saying MUH REDDIT SPACING

>>9838707
I said I am more concerned about the death in my family more so than the past relationship maybe you need to learn to read before creating paragraphs.

Good news is, instead of 2 pints of vodka I have only drank 1 today. Maybe tommorow I will just have a 1/2 pint of vodka, and then next day a shot or 2, and be sober for a week before Christmas and see where it goes from there. I guess the advice from last night really helped caught down my excessiveness.

>>9838728
Ok man. Listen, if you need to quit, you can taper off using 5% beers. We all do it from time to time.

>>9838728
I mean after my 1st pint of the day, I really need to drink another one for the night and to pass out, and after dinner I just feel naturally sleepy, maybe that is the burnout part, but heck it beats thinking I need another pint, hopefully the burnout part levels out and I go back to feeling normal, I almost already do since I can actually think today and not be drunky mushy brains. Oh and I have been drinking alot of powerade instead of the usual liquor for this time of the day, I never realized how unhydrated I feel when I am mostly sober.

>>9838734
why 5%?

>>9838739
i actually use 4.2% miller lite

>>9838747
So I probably should not tapper off Vodka if the urge to drink arises if my favorite beer is Hurricane lol

>>9838755
oh god just thinking about that makes me want to hurl

>>9838739
because its common, cheap, and doesnt have much alcohol.

>>9838757
go big or go home, well to me if I drink why drink a weak beer so maybe that is why I am accustomed to it

i will probably just have coors light instead, smooth taste if i am not trying to get fucked up and just drink casually around others but i really think after the 1/2 pint of vodka day I can just stop completely without needing to taper, after tomorrow I will know for sure.

>>9838778
oh ok thx

>>9838781
good luck brother, you should be fine

>>9838707
reddit spacing

>>9838796


did that fill the hole in you that will never be filled until the day you die?

>>9838806
fill it with your brat if you want

>>9838788
I will still be smoking weed though especially on my 1st day sober after the 1/2 pint day, but I might even quit that soon after maybe a day or 2 after, don't want to be a complete idiot during my Christmas day with the family and relatives .

>>9838810

>>9838707
>paragraph breaks
>for a post with 5 sentences that all deal with one point (aka a single paragraph)
Die.

>>9838811
consider buying valerian root supplements from walgreens or CVS. i sometimes take up to 7000 mg when withdrawing, it lowers my heart rate and reduces sweating, i have done this many, many times with no negative side effects

apparently valerian works on GABA like alcohol and benzos do

>>9838829
eat shit you fucking parasite.

Shitting my guts out in the toilet at work and a female cleaner keeps popping her head into the bathroom every five minutes to say ‘HELLO CLEANERS?’ and see if it’s empty so she can clean. I’ve been in here twenty minutes.

>>9838811
Hang in there bro. This is an anon from last night. You have a good plan. Stick to it. If you fuck up it’s not that big a deal but keep it as a goal and continue to work towards it. Beer really does help.

>>9838620
>>9838806
I hope you know how cringy you look using these reaction images. They don’t lend authority to your posts they just make you look twelve and brainwashed.

>>9838855
thanks friend you make me feel nice

>>9838849
Kek. Tell her to come on in you have a “mess” you are about to make and need someone to “clean it up”.. get it anon? No, really do you get it!?

>>9838524
stupid fat ass retard that needs to stop being a pathetic loser and kill himself already forgot how to use the subject field. what a dumb ass drunk pathetic loser, kill yourself and stay out of my life already faggot

>>9838865
shhh the booze is making you negative

deep breaths

we are all buds here, you too

>>9838851
Thanks dude I will keep that beer thing in mind. I just didn't realize quitting would be this easy or the urge to drink would overcome me, I think I made drinking more of my daily routine and not a needed habit like most drinkers. But it is best to quit while I can before it gets to those levels of necessity instead of a simple habit. My pint of vodka is still 1/4 full from the day as I look at it, and I would usually be on my 2nd by now with extra shots lying around, so this is a start. Will probably post tommorow on my 1/2 pint day to update on my status, but by the looks of it I might not even drink the whole 1/2 pint in a day at this rate, feels god man, might even go to the cemetery to visit my grandpe, today there was way too many funerals for some odd reason. Didn't want to bother anybody near by.

>>9838865
maybe he was too drunk to post in the subject field? cut him some slack

>>9838849
man ive puked at work and shitted drunk ass turds but never had the cleaning lady bother me
kinda sucks

>>9838865
>stupid fat ass retard that needs to stop being a pathetic loser and kill himself already
now that's some projection

>>9838901
kek

>>9838886
Good plan. And good on you for having respect for others in their time of grief. Remember, even if the feeling don’t come, take it in stride and try again later. There is no “normal” timeline for grief. It comes when you are ready. If you meditate and try and appreciate the big picture it will find it’s way to you

>>9838575
It’s drinking anon, what now?

>>9838922
you could make a voodoo doll out of yourself and poor vodka on it

>>9838925
haha

>>9838922
for a lot of us, drinkin is *the* reason to exist.

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I didn't drink today, lads. Feels weird.

>>9839144
good on yer

>but will you be able to sleep?

im really fucking drunk and woke up from a 2hour nap and why doesnt anybody truly love me fuck

>>9839153
we all love u, you are a nice person deep down. we all know it

>>9839153
Do you feel that someone truly loving you will fix whatever issues you may have that contribute to alcoholism?

>>9839144
not drinking days feel just as high/altered state as drinking really heavily. it's weird.

how quickly did drinking become a necessity for you?

>>9838618

Alc threads are very /ck appropriate as most alcoholic beverages are imbided and processed as food or drink. Bitters especially which are usually drank after meals to strengthen digestion. Plus using wine beer or liquer as a cooking ingredient.

>>9839326
>>9839326
>>9839326
took years. at first it was hangovers, then it was drinking to cure hangovers, then it was full-blown addiction.

Does anyone else find a beer drunk more enjoyable than getting drunk on liquor or wine?

>>9838535
Don't waste the ER's time unless you have alcohol poisoning or are having seizures. There's people in there being saved from bleeding to death behind the doors and assholes have the cheek to walk in and take up their time with bullshit like this instead of seeing a GP

>>9839349
lots-of-beer-drunk plus high is my favorite feeling i think

Anybody ever have any luck stopping?

I've been drinking pretty steady since I got back from Afghanistan. I figure it's either gonna kill me or I'm gonna wake up one day and be over it.

Kinda wish I could go back sometimes. Things made a lot more sense.

>>9839387
theres a drug called naltrexone. turns off the urge to drink. ask a doctor for a script. and thank you for your service.

>>9839390
Really? Thank you.

I'll look into it. Guess it probably beats listening to Johnny Cash records and sipping bourbon all day.

Thanks man, really.

>can feel my alcohol tolerance increasing massively
>cant bring myself to stop
Guess I'll be walking this path soon.

Just started drinking gin. Had it on a flight with tonic since I read online it masks bad breath and I hadn't brushed my teeth. Gin is new to me. What do you lads like to mix with? So far I've been doing tonic (obviously) and Italian soda.

>>9839387
What are you doing with yourself now? It's hard to adjust back to a world that seems to be about nothing more than making money. But there are other professions out there in civilian world that are purposeful. You might need to work hard for one but I'm sure you're not a stranger to that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mWLig0s_9k

>>9839435
god i wish i could go back to when i first found this album

>>9839434
Well, I'm an idealistic idiot so I decided to go to school and get a degree in international relations.

I want to understand what we were doing over there. But the more answers I get the more I realize there are no answers.

I've got good prospects if I can hold my life together long enough to get the degree. All I want to do is hide away inside and get drunk and hold my rifle.

I know, I'm a stereotype. Maybe I watched too many movies or something. Nobody else seems to feel the way I do.

Hey brothers, it'll be okay. I was deep into the drink. Almost self-admitted a week ago. My body was rejecting everything for 2 days. Didn't eat or keep any liquid (literally typed liquor and had to re-read and correct to liquid... christ) down for that time period.

Either way. Went to the bar tonight, and had my usual 6 drinks over a few hours and watched football. 2 days no eating, felt it a bit more than usual. Came back and poured a glass of bourbon with an ice cube. Had 2 or 3 of those with a piece of toast.

Stopped though. It was 10pm MST and I wasn't really feeling it. Not sure what happened. I'll most likely be awake all night since I'm not drinking, but I think it's a step. I usually drink until I pass out.

I love you all, and the green grass is indeed greener.

>>9839478
Hey man, hang in there.

It's pretty hard to slow down, just want to say from one guy who gets it to another than I'm proud of you for being able to say "stop". Good for you.

Stay alive man. It's the only victory we're going to get.

>>9839492
Cheers dude. I'm legit just monitoring this thread hah. I wasn't going to go home for Christmas and I'm way across the country, so that was going to be a big blow to me. I'm going home in 4 days now which is just amazing. Unfortunately, my dog that I grew up with is being put down in 2 days which is going to be... tough. I can handle bad shit when I'm drunk, but I get into the existential bullshit and absolute terror and sometimes complete identity crisis issues when I'm hungover, so it'll be a big test for me to see if I can keep my sobriety the next 48 hours.

Either way, we all have our problems and everyone has their lives to live. I am, however, wildly energetic and almost manic right now since I'm not sucking down the booze and doing the usual.

I have half a bottle of bourbon in my freezer, but it won't meet me again tonight. It'll be music and Trailer Park Boys until I can find some semblance of sleep.

Gonna try and grab a greasy ass biscuit and coffee and go hiking tomorrow morning. Fresh air and nature always helps me out, but it's been cold as fuck out here in the mornings lately. Time spent in nature is the ultimate hangover cure imo.

>>9839435
good album

>>9839461
Do you study history? These kinds of events are never isolated and simple, they happen because of what has already been set in motion.

All I want to do is work until I can buy a yacht and run away into the sea for a few years, pit myself against it and explore the world in my little moving castle, because I could never choose what to commit to in the real world

>>9839531
I'm a double major actually, history and international relations. I think you're right, we have to understand what came before so that we can make a decision about what comes next, especially in a place like the Middle East that has such a long memory.

It's just real hard separating out my personal history from the work I'm trying to do now. I fucked up pretty bad this week. We were all giving final presentations for the semester and this young woman came out in support of Osama bin Laden. I kinda lost my mind a little in front of everyone.

It's so strange. It was years ago, but it's all still so close to the surface. I can see it, and taste it, and smell it, and hear it. If I had known this is what the world would be like when I came back to the world, I would have never enlisted.

>>9839506
Hey, that sounds like a pretty good idea. It's down around zero where I live now, but the woods are still beautiful, even with all the snow.

>>9839542
I typed out a post about this global jihad idea but deleted it. What you need my man is to go out camping and give yourself a little break from history and international relations and liquor shops and artificial lighting. Do you hunt?

>>9839570
Yup. My Jeep is a bit fucked right now, so I'm a little wary to take it out into the backwoods, but even a solid hiking trail off a gravel road would be solid. Even if the roads get bad headed up into the mountains, I can always go to this beautiful lake and sit at a picnic bench and have coffee and read a book. I used to have no issue doing this every morning before work, but I have just lost a lot of energy and will to get out and do stuff. Gotta love these ruts. I will indeed be out there in 8 hours or so reading some Robert Service with some cheap coffee and freezing my dick off. Sounds fantastic actually.

>>9839588
Another outdoor enthusiast. Legitimately is the way to go if you're having issues. Tends to help 99% of the problems most people tend to run into.

>>9839588
I don't hunt anymore, kinda reminds me of things.

But I still like getting out there.

I've been hitting the ales pretty regularly recently. It helps me write and gets me to cook. I've been eating a lot of fucking chicken recently and I have some pork in the fridge. How should I cook it up for dinner tomorrow? I was thinking about throwing it in a crock pot but I'm not sure what to use for sauce.

>>9839602
Not the guy who you've been speaking with, but this guy >>9839594 .

You should try birdwatching or plant identification, photography, etc. I have a buddy who rolled out for 4 tours and was in action for the majority of the time out there. He got so into photography and has some fantastic shit he's done. The big thing was to get back out into nature and have some time to think and clear his head. Especially back in his home area, not the middle east. He described it as "a sigh of relief" just to be back outdoors with a pack on, but not have to worry about anything other than stubbing a toe or stepping in rabbit shit.

Either way, your service is appreciated (I know not everyone likes to hear that, but it's true). I hope you find what you're looking for bud. I've done some volunteer work at a privately owned spinal cord injury/PTSD/CTE hospital and the shit is real. Helping manipulate someone's legs to help stimulate blood and possibly help regain motion while they talk to you about their experiences is so humbling, it's insane.

Again, Thank you for your service. Whether you feel appreciate or not or even think you deserve it, there are millions out there who could not be more thankful.

>>9839606
Depends on what else you have and what cut you have. Google recipes, but if you can swing some solid BBQ pulled pork and buy some buns... You'll be a happy camper.

>drink unil i cn't asaee syreaigt
>wake p
>cry about how worthless \i am
>start drinking afain
How do I stop this?

vodka kind of night

>>9839707
Blah blah exercise blah blah discipline blah blah man up

you heard it all before, and there is no answer. you'll either figure it out on your own or die trying, that's the reality. don't look for answers online, just live mate.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/dec/15/minimum-alcohol-price-raise-cost-90-scotland-study-ifs

>90% increase in price


90 FUCKING PERCENT !!!!

That's it lads. I'm going to be a druggy. It's cheaper now

>people actually mix drinks

as soon as i've been able to buy alcohol i've drank the vodka straight out of the bottle

>>9839756
Awesome, looks like I just found a new job. Drive across the border from England, and double my money selling booze from my car

>>9839813
Why would we pay if that's the same as the shops?

>>9838702
if ur trying to get over someone, drinking makes it a lot lot worse. cos the whole feeling of drinking and withdrawal becomes about them. so long as u are going through that cycle ur thinking about them in some way. if u try to remain sober, it's way more difficult at the start, but eventually u will be able to move past it. at least in my experience

I've run out of Naltrexone pills and can't afford any more ($50 USD equiv. here), but I do have enough for cheap wine. Down the rabbit hole I go.

>>9839606
I eat chicken every day. What I like to do is cut up the chicken breast into small pieces, pan fry it, add frozen vegetables, cook it some more, then add a cheap sauce from the supermarket (carbonara / butter chicken / etc.). Super duper easy and tastes bretty good. I have had this as dinner for the past five years as I don't mind eating the same thing every day to absorb the alcohols.

A crock pot chicken stew sounds amazing in winter, I should get one.

got paid tonight boys. gonna buy the finest bottom shelf vodka tomorrow. should i go with crown rus or gilbeys?

I woke up just as the stores were closing. Kill me.

>>9839849
Open here but there’s no way to get to them. Just spent ten mins stood by my door trying to feel well enough to go, made it like 10 feet and threw up. Can barely stand up straight. Anxiety is fucking killing me.

>>9839828
>color image for half a second before switching to black and white image
For what purpose

>Error: You seem to have mistyped the CAPTCHA. Please try again.
>x2
Fuck you piece of shit there's nothing to type I clicked on images until I get my check mark.

Help

>>9838823
Nice. Texas brats?

>>9839416
Lemonade or vodka and ice. I'd recommend the vodka. Just do big cups of gin, vodka and ice. And I'll see you in three weeks ;)

Nope. That’s it, that’s quite enough. I don’t know how, but I am having a girlfriend. This is too much...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=QDZNcKPZCEM
It’s simply not happening any more. I will NOT live in a world in which I am unable to spend hours every day exploring this girl’s interior.

>>9839923
Pedobears to /b/. This thread is for people who don't like mixers and underage girls. I'd call for a mod, but meh.

>>9839934
>This thread is for anyone who wants to post in it
FTFY

this is 4chan

Man I just want to sleep until the stores open but I fucking can't.

>>9839940
>>Sober Christian

>>9839934
UK legal, dude. Feelspertman.
>>9839941
I wish I could sleep all the time. I never get enough sleep, shit is savage.

>>9839948
Long term /Al/ck/. Got kids older than that. Not Boomer tho.

>>9839948
It's almost 4 a.m, man. I have another 6+ hours.

>>9839953
I'm only 28 and I've been drinking "long term" as in 11 years. How the fuck old are you?

>>9839953
>Got kids older than that
Can I fuck them please?

>tfw get red cheeks and drunk off one gin and tonic


How can boys drink so much?

>>9839975
Tolerance.

>>9839975
Are you Asian or Native American?

>>9839975
Depends on how many standard drinks were in that drink and if you had eaten anything previously that day.

>>9839975
because we drink to get drunk

>drunk after one gin and tonic
>better drink another

>>9839975
i get silly after like two beers but i can still handle a ridiculous amount of drinks i've had like 15-20 drinks worth of booze in a single night before it just amplifies the effects further

diminishing returns though for sure

>>9838739
It has a built-in limit on how much you can drink (your stomach volume), so less abusable.

>>9838865
>stupid fat ass retard that needs to stop being a pathetic loser and kill himself already forgot how to
set up a filter correctly. Leave the default "all fields" option Anon.

>>9839894
>>color image for half a second before switching to black and white image
10 seconds when it doesn't bug. It's an optical illusion based on retina persistence.

Anyone know of Cultmoo? I feel like Guerro is an alcohol.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30500372
>error, drinks must equal 1-99
>won’t accept 280
Normies.

Any other al/ck/s get a round face after binging on beer for a few weeks? Like where the fuck has my jawline gone. It goes away after a few days of not drinking, but it's surprising how quickly it bloats.

>>9840222
Can I get a nude Tane?

>al/ck/ recommends "leaving las vegas"
>watch it last night


wew, That one really hit home lads. I even have the dark circles under my eyes 24/7

>>9839975
Women just drink for attention, Like they do with everything else.

>>9840329
Daddy pls fuck me
I want to wrap my legs around you back while you put your hard cock inside me

>>9840319
I just enjoyed the movie for what it is desu, wasn't trying to liken myself to the character

all movies are fictional after all

>>9840360
>unironically got me aroused

>>9840397
Cock. In. My. Vagina.

Now

>>9840401
annnnnd

there my erection goes

>>9840412
Faggot

>>9840390
uhh....ok?

>>9840434
seems shallow to just enjoy a movie cause
>look at the alcoholic that's just like me haha cause I'm an alcoholic

I enjoy movies for what they are, I can connect to any type of character regardless of it appeals to my personal experience

>what is empathy

Canada Prescription fag here

rollin

>>9838831
The sweats are the worst part.. For a medium withdrawal that is

I'm down from a fifth every two days to a fifth every five days. I think I can actually do this, al/ck/.

>>9838831
valerian doesnt do shit for me unless i take 4g+ and even then its really subtle

>>9839326
Really fast. My main hobby was physical activity. I spranged my ankle and the rest was history

>>9839349
Oh yeah, its all about slowly getting more and more of that feeling. There's a good Jordon Peterson video that explains how it's the increase of Bac that matters not the total Bac

>>9840591
>Jordon Peterson
>being a SJW

>implying that being a SJW contrarian isn't being a SJW

>>9839478
I recommend some shitty clam chowder. 2 minutes to cook, tons of sodium, easy to eat. Last time it took 3 episodes of archer to eat a banana ha. Milk is also good

Hey al/ck/ got paid today so no more paying for dollar beers with pennies. I tried to buy a drink this morning but threw it up while walking back up to my apartment. I think I drank it to fast but hey I had to get it down before I walked into my place where the wifey was. Anyway I decided to just deal and I feel pretty good...i got the drink this morning in an attempt to take the edge of the end of my taper. Had some really bad sweats and anxiety early this morning that kept me up and chain smoking. Till the gas station across the street opened up. But idk threw up what little drink I had....but I have plenty of the oil and coffee and cigs...ended up eating breakfast for once. So I I guess it's ok. I threw up the beer....i figured it was a sign to end this bender. Going to hold out and get a nice Christmas ale for *sorta* not drinking this morning. Cheers!

>>9840678
Thc oil*

>>9839435
The “black tarantula” song was a massive favorite when I was younger. I wish I could go back like >>9839447
but it’s no longer socially acceptable to listen to EDM.

>>9840509
>Skywalker OG
RIP

1.75l boi here. I’ve been having a rough time/ phantom organ pains/shakes and potential nerve damage, and I am really going to try and quit before the holidays. I’m sick of being drunk around my family and I don’t want to dissapoint my pops when I run into him at the get together.
Wish me luck my guys, starting my taper today.

>>9840770
I won’t go to a doctor because I do not want to be labeled an addict, especially this early in life. I’m just going to taper and take it easy, how long have the worst WDs lasted for this group?

>>9840770
>>9840777
You wont really have bad withdrawals if you taper correctly. Essentially, the beer taper means one beer every hour or 1.5 hours, or 2 hours. Just enough to keep the sweats and shakes away. You wont get rid of your anxiety, so you just have to accept it.

>tfw I dont know if I really want to drink or not
I mean, the urge is there, I just don't know if it's what I want.
Weird feeling desu.

>>9840799
when drinking becomes your go-to hobby, look out buddy.

i'm quitting drinking, i'm a lightweight who drinks 4 beers/day on average - sometimes up to 6 or 7

do i need to worry about kindling or can i quit cold turkey

>>9840837
The little old lady who drinks a glass of wine at night can have withdrawals if she stops and the guy who pounds a bottle of vodka a night can quit with no problem.
It depends on the person.

>>9840853
such bullshit, god medicine is awful

ok, well for peopel who DO need to taper, what schedule is recommended?

>>9840856
google HAMS. its a good website that details the 5% beer taper. basically you only drink enough beer to keep the shakes/sweats away. you will still have bad anxiety but you will survive.

>>9840868
so if i dont get shakes or sweats dont worry?
i just want to minimize brain damage, which is the reason i'm quitting

>>9840885
Yeah, tapering covers the "kindling" factor. It's a slow comedown. Ive done the beer taper a few times. It works, but its neither pleasant nor easy.

>>9840890
>>9840868
Ok, so i can basically taper off in 1 or 2 days. Thanks

>>9840895
yes sir. spread the word in the next thread after you complete your taper.

Any of you guys have hobbies? I literally don't. Just work, shitpost, and drink. It's probably not helping. I don't even care for music anymore.

>>9840923
You're in a very dangerous spot. I highly suggest you do NOT use alcohol as a hobby. And to answer your question, no, I do not have any hobbies. Which might explain why I drink all the time.

>>9839390
I don't want to be pessimistic about it but I'm just posting this as something to consider. Whenever I was prescribed naltrexone, and I've tried it two different times, I would always end up just drinking massive amounts right over it like I wasn't even taking it and it didn't make me sick or anything. That's why I just don't take it anymore.

>>9840923
I quit drinking this summer and went out and bought fishing boat and everything that goes with it.
I was drinking again a month later.
Wanna by a boat?

>>9840943
Two things about that:

1: it doesnt work for everyone. It works especially well for people with certain genes. You can google this.

2: underlying issues like sadness and depression can cause a person to try to drink without the physical cravings.

>>9840948
I have a boat already. Never used it.

>>9840923
I have a few guitars, a drumset, and a keyboard and I just record my own stuff from time to time. Other than that, literally no, just vidya shitposting and drinking.
When I was younger I used to like to write but in my older age I can't come up with shit anymore.

>>9840980
writing is a booyzewah passtime anyway. your talents are best spent here on the 'chan.

>>9840986
Yeah I sincerely think that posting on the chans is more productive personally than trying to write fiction. The good thing about writing a book though is that you have your entire life to do it if you really want to, so it's something I can leave on the backburner without ever saying never. It doesn't matter that much to me anymore anyway though.

>>9841001
I understand your point about having something tangible to give meaning to your life.

Sadly, that seems to be an element that blows away like dust in the wind.

Which is why we end up shitposting on the 'chan

>>9840472
Archer tho?

>>9840603
Ha I've seen like two videos of him talking about alcohol, kind of inciteful.
I try not to be a contrarian because it's acting on emotions which isnt good. But its been in my core since I was a kid.

>>9840770
You better go get b vitamins, and normal daily vitamins, pop 2 or 3 of each at first. It will help the nerve damage. Get some milk and oj cause easy to drink and maybe some soups. Gotta keep eating my man.
And taper with beer like other anons said but don't get drunk off of them

>>9840890
There's a sub on reddit where people enjoy kindling, they are some freaks man. Pure brain damage shit

>>9841102
Fucking retards. I hate reddit. I made an account years ago and maybe posted once. Shithole.

>>9841102
>reddit enjoys brain damage
no surprise there

>>9841115
There are smaller community subs which are good but it is absolutely hilarious how the karma system attracts so many faggots

>>9841133
Any forum that attaches identity to a post is flawed.

>>9840284
It's a buildup of fluid. your body stores it when the liver cant handle the quantity of alcohol your drinking. This is also the reason why beer guts are more solid than ordinary fat.

http://www.msdmanuals.com/en-gb/home/liver-and-gallbladder-disorders/manifestations-of-liver-disease/ascites

>>9840799
I know this feel. Last night when I got off work I didn't even really want to drink. Like I could have easily just gone home without going to the store, but it's like I had already decided at some point that I was going to drink. Only got a six pack of cider and a tall boy of perry but I still wish I had decided to just go home.

I won't drink tonight

>>9838524
So when does that permanent liver damage start to kick in?

>>9841203
liver damage goes away if you take a week or two between drinking. permanent liver damage happens after years of constant drinking.

>want to quit
>but it's Christmas, the ultimate time of the year for drinking

Do I attempt a NY resolution or some shit?

>>9841221
beer taper after the new year. takes 1-3 days depending on how fucked you are.

>>9841205
Yeah I was looking up fatty acid build up on your liver. Its almost hilarious. While you metabolize alcohol it creates a protein byproduct that grabs a fat molecule and attaches it to your liver. So fucking funny and stupid.
Just got to have maintenance checks to wipe that scum off your liver and then you are good to go.

>>9841221
I'm aiming for a dry January.

>>9841226
Nice, that should be fairly easy. Mostly off spirits these days, might pick up a couple of bottles of bourbon for Christmas but I figure a beer taper will sort me to be good by mid January.

>>9841405
its not easy. takes willpower.

>>9841442
Oh.

Oh yeah.

Does doesn't it...

>>9841464
Yes, it takes willpower. The best way to succeed with a beer taper is to constantly remind yourself how shitty the withdrawals are. You are using beer as medicine, and nothing more.

I'm drinking red wine tonight. Feeling tipsy after a glass, what the fuck?

>>9841515
It's transmission fluid.

>>9841102
What sub?

>>9841221
https://www.alcoholconcern.org.uk/dry-january

>>9841479
Its weird cause you are just dealing with how uncomfortable you feel so it's like you almost dont remember it

>>9841610
spoken like someone who has never been through alcohol withdrawals.

>>9841551
>should not be attempted by people with an alcohol dependency problem.
I'm not sure why you posted this here.

>>9841650
Just don't go cold turkey.
It's UK, they'd be responsible for withdrawals if they didn't cover their legal asses with such statements.

>>9841620
I blew up the nerves in my hands and feet if thats good enough for you. Took a year to heal

>>9841750
Unusual alc related stuff.

Tried to make a whiskey sour. Fucked it up. Like I have everything else in my life.

>>9838618

alcohol threads on /ck/ should be about enjoying difference types of alcohol, mixing drinks, discussing difference brands, etc. not constant "waaah woe is me i shat the bed again with liquid feces"

>>9841835
my asshole is on fire

>>9841777
Idk, sorry. Guess your body has a hard time digesting vitamin b plus basically no food in my diet caused a lack of b1. This is what makes the caps on the end of your neurons. The caps on your neurons are being penetrated by toxins from liver being overloaded and high oxidativity. Breaks down the caps of neurons and then is directly hitting your neuron.
Nueroapathy is common in alcoholics for sure, I might be wrong on the rest. But I always take vitamin b now whilst binging.
Ironicialy gaba inhibitors like alcohol help nerve pain, its a bad cycle

>>9841835
low test beta numale detected

>>9841835
This isn't the alcohol thread. This is the alcoholic thread.
We talk about alcohol and substance abuse.

There are other threads for what you described.

>>9841849
Korsakoff's. Ugly shit.

>>9841855
Yeahhp, fuck me. I only had it bad once. Random ass neurons were just blasting off I guess. I was seeing whole scenarios made up in a flash of a second. I would be walking and I felt I was just hanging out with my ex gf in a hotel when she was 300 miles away then I would snap back in a second. It was like that all day. Honestly it was the highest I've ever been but it was at the sake of my brain.

I don't even know what I'm experiencing at night. I've tried tapering but I still can't sleep and I keep jolting awake for hours on end as I'm falling asleep.

Is this alcohol or what? I'm also a very anxious person (have been even before alcohol).

I just don't wanna drink more than a couple of beers cause I'm scared of that kindling shit.

kinda want to start drinking again tonight but want to have at least one more decent nights sleep and i really hate starting up again
well see how long i last

Any good recommendations for bourbons to use in cocktails? Just ran out of buffalo trace

>>9839975
please be in London

Got drunk as fuck at the company Christmas party last night, hit on my boss and openly talked shit about one of my coworkers. Been doing damage control all day. I want off this ride.

>tfw everytime i drink lately i end up buying coke or MDMA

>>9841942
Gaba drug w/d does this.

When I quit taking xanax that happened to me, I just drank more and it went away.


Alcohol is a gaba drug

Big rum fan, I've yet to find something better than Diplomatico Exlusiva, but all of it is pretty good.

Also, anyone try Prusser's Gunpowder proof? It tastes like absolute horse shit fermented

I'm at the lcbo, what do I buy /ck/

I usually drink vodka and whisky

>>9842124

Lagavulin 16yr sherry cask, obviously.

>>9842061
This. Is. Why. You. Don't. Drink. During. Work Events.

>>9842097
I might be in the same boat if anyone actually sold that shit around here. All I have are shitty weed dealers.

>>9842112
alright thanks. I just bought a few more beers to hopefully get through the night, my sleep has been getting better over the last couple of nights but it's still bad.

Third bottle of crown in three days. Lets you and me promise each other not to have arguments or swear out into a dark room for hours on end.

>>9842386
amber slow the fuck down geez. i know you buying them handles.

>>9842386
>>9842397
Yeah define bottle, how many mils?

>>9842138
My go to was on sale, $3.50 off, had to go for it

>>9842386
My uncle claims he was going through 26rs daily at one point

The story was about the funny faces he got on recycle day

I have to somehow sober up for tomorrow. Wish me luck.

So every couple of weeks or even months I can get tingling in my feet and sometimes hands. How bad do you think that is?

>>9842422
didn't get any funny faces when i went today and i had 3 bags basically full of 2l coke bottles and 60s of rye

>>9842479
Sounds like a plus desu

>>9842502
there was other stuff in there like some milk cartons so i may have seemed sort of normal

Wet the bed drunk for the first time last night lads. Quite vividly remember dreaming that I was already on the toilet needing to pee, opened the floodgates, then woke up halfway through as soon as it clicked that I was still in bed. Only soaked my boxers before it spread to the bedsheets but I don’t like the precedent.

>>9842559
Are you sure it was piss and not cum? Dreaming that you are peeing in a toilet is actually a really common precursor to a nocturnal emission. I think it's because the same muscles are involved.

>>9842559
I wasnt drunk when I started pissing in the bed the other night

I dreamed I was fucking a girl (rare) and I had a full bladder at the time

When I came I started to piss

Feelsbadman

>>9842520
I think the bigger faggot is the one who half-asses his screenshots

>>9842559
Ayy I've been there. Ever since I always make an effort to piss before bed.

>>9842572
If it was cum it was close to 150ml of it, I don’t think I have that much stored in me to be honest.

The withdrawal anxiety is so bad at this point, that I think it alone might be enough to stop me from relapsing. It’s non stop and horrifying, I can’t keep spending days on end feeling like this

>>9842581
Based on this guy's story >>9842574 I guess it also works the other way around. Follows that sometimes dream piss is just real piss.

>>9842577
I nornally try to do the same, just wasn’t in a state last night to remember. I was asleep before I hit the pillow.

On a somewhat related note, soju is the fucking devil’s drink and 5 standards in a 360ml bottle should be outlawed if it’s going to be that easy to drink. And all the sugar has given me the worst hangover I’ve ever had, until this point I never got them

How do i literally kill the taste of the booze so i can get drunk without vomiting?

I mean, i'm broke today and couldn't find cheap pure vodka anywhere, so i got some cheap ass "sweet" cocktail with 40% alcohol, but the sweet taste is fucking awful, i'd rather drink pure alcohol(again). What's the trick? Lemons? Salt?

>>9842061
Hey now, you're a rock star, get your game on, get paid

>>9842601
Are you sure you don’t mean chuhai? Soju or shochu as it is called in Japanese is just straight liquor and less alcoholic than vodka or whiskey. It’s also decidedly not sugary.

>>9842123
youre asking the wrong thread

if whatever alcohol you are inquiring about is not sold on the bottom shelf, it probably wont be discussed here.

>>9842617
How broke are we talking?
You can get some low tier vodka for like $35 a bottle where I am, surely cocktails aren’t much cheaper than that

>>9842589
Its never bad enough to make you stop. Theres always that time where you feel better and want to get fucked up. The key is to minimize the damage by not getting drunk two nights in a row, for starters.

>>9842628
Literally broke bc an idiot rammed my car and i had to leave it at the mechanic

When i'm fucked i get some random shitty vodka for $6, but they were out of stock and i had to waste $7 on this blue shit. I didn't get the car yet so it was impossible to go to another store(too far).

Thinking about throwing this away.

>>9842674
At least bless it first.

>>9842479
People who may see you just assume you recycle glass once every few months, they don't judge you worse than a somewhat lazy person.
If they see you regularly there it's different.

>>9842627
Come on, there are some richfags here who drink lower tier middle shelf vodka.

>>9842674
Is your drink too sugary or too alcoholic?
You can add water if it's too sweet, like cordial.
If it's too strong in ethanol, add sugar or mix with juice or soda/tonic.

Forgot to drink a few before I went to sleep, solid 8 hours of nightmares and facing my own demons through dream but being too exhausted to force myself awake. Bout ready to start crying, I cant fucking take this anymore

>>9842408
>>9842397
The 750s

>>9842559
Last time I pissed I woke up during, said fuck it, and pissed full on to completion before rolling back to sleep.

>>9842746
Same had to pay landlord $800 to replace mattress after I got back from inpatient detox

I don’t piss the bed until I’m 1 step away from the ER tho

>>9842720
wd dreams are literal hell

>>9842623
It was Chum Churum soju, 17.5 percent alcoholic. I think I misspoke when I said sugary, it was just deceptively easy to drink. Although it has about 20 g carbs per bottle so I assume there’s something in it besides just liquor. Also I thought soju was korean

>>9842767
They really are almost comically awful and hideous and terror inducing

Absolutely no fucking joke when you’re experiencing them, but maybe a little funny in retrospect

>>9842780
Japan and Korea have a lot of similar words, soju in Korea becomes shochu in japan

Anyway my shochu has always been in the high twenties, seventeen does seem low so I bet there was a lot of wine-like shit in it

how do i tell my family and friends that i dont drink anymore

or does going cold turkey do more damage than still drinking 1-2 drinks a day

god i hate the current state of medicine
nobody knows anything

>>9842826
Dont tell them. Theyll notice regardless

>>9842720
how much do you drink on average anon

>>9842831
yeah but i need an excuse, like i don't feel good.. or something. maybe a vague reference to medication interaction?? or uhh what

>>9842845
How come you need an excuse for your family to stop drinking?

do alcoholics normally volunteer truthful information about their consumption at bars during the day

>>9842853
If they’re of the personality type to want to talk about their problems with strangers, yeah. Why?

>>9842230
>>9841942
how old are you and how much do you drink

>>9842869
i don't believe that people in their 20s could be drinking fifths a day and still be semi-functional in their 30s, that shit should kill you dead

anything over 2 drinks a day is unhealthy and likely induces kindling and irreversible neuronal damage

>>9842845
You're on antibiotics, you're on a keto diet, you're having a month long break to prove something to yourself, you're pregnant, you found Jesus, you found Allah, you're an alkie and kicking out a bad habit. Pick up your "excuse".
And don't go cold turkey if you have withdrawals. Taper with light beer.
And see a real doctor before claiming science doesn't know. They have benzo and can prescribe you the appropriate dose if you tell them how much you drink.

>>9842884
You’re right that it’s unhealthy, but in terms of being able to metabolise large amounts of alcohol, your mid twenties is when you’re at your peak. It will no doubt be damaging them though and it’ll catch up to them later in life, probably shorten their lifespan overall

>>9842872
24 years old and I usually drink about 8 beers a day but this past weekend I increased that amount by a large amount and also took a sick day to drink, so I was more hungover than usual.

>>9842884
I know a few dumbass 20-something alcoholics. they party every night like its new years. these dipshits will be curled up in bed, crying, whining for God in a few years. it catches up with everyone.

>most people have to rely on their willpower to quit alcohol
>i can call upon my immense power of autism

>>9842902
I should say on 8 beers a day I didn't get withdrawals (apart from a slight hangover)

>>9842911
withdrawals are determined not by amount per day, but total number of drinks consumed

so if you've had 8 beers/day for 3 years, you're the same as someone who had 4 beers/day for 6 years

>>9842887
i have like 4 beers a day, i'm not going to have withdrawls.

you should never take benzos unless you have to.

useful drugs in life
>amphetamine (productivity)
>alcohol (social lubricant)

not useful drugs
>benzos
>opiates

>>9842920
Prior to September 20th, I hadn't consumed alcohol since July. I went on holiday to America for a month and drank for most of it

>>9842911
I drink that before lunch

>>9842920
wrong. withdrawals are determined by how long your body has needed to compensate for the depressant effect of alcohol. a person coming off a 3 day bender, where they were drunk the whole time, is going to suffer much worse withdrawals than someone who has 5 beers each night.

>>9842933
That's great my friend, but it was this past weekend where I was constantly drunk over 24hr periods for almost 4 days which has caused my issues and Idk if it is down to alcohol or not

See >>9841942

>>9842937
"no"

that's not how it works

if you consume alcohol regularly you have incurred neuroadaptations

>>9842911
i didn't have hangovers for the longest time despite drinking shittons then just stopping
now i get them quite easily

>>9843020
Yep. It happens with age. I would say the 30s is the age group when most people notice alcohol begins to kick the shit out of them.

>>9843024
Yeah for me it was mid 30s that I stopped thinking it was fun and started feeling that it was punishment

>>9843037
You and me both.

>>9843024
im only 27, think its the kindling that kicks my ass
that and now if i drink its all day and probably over a liter

>>9843055
brother, all i can say is try to switch to beer. and on days you NEED to get fucked up, just buy strong beer. avoid liquor, try to avoid wine.

you do this and your withdrawals wont be so bad. the downside is you will never get totally fucked up like you want to, but everything has a price to pay.

>>9842767
It's really nightmare-tier. Few days ago I went cold turkey and was dreaming of trauma long passed, then jolting up (you know what I mean), shaking all the time. Anxiety was so bad, I was half asleep, heard a noise almost had a heart attack, because I thought someone was coming in, only to realize that the noise was just my laboured and wheezy breathing. Fuck this shit.

>>9843063
I'm 24 and have experienced kindling with strong beer. Nowhere near as bad as liquor I'm sure, but it still sucks ass

>>9843072
Beer taper if you currently are going through withdrawals. And yes, I can perfectly relate to what you described.

>>9843079
Liquor dependency ends up giving the type of withdrawals where you are sweating like a water faucet, heart pounding literally, anxiety to where you are deathly afraid of breathing out.

Whatever you do as an alcoholic, always, ALWAYS respect liquor. Do your best to avoid that shit.

>>9843079
how much were you drinking to get kindling with beer

>>9838786
I used to mix rum with that b/c I didn't want to get fat from soda.

>>9843118
Spoiler: you got fat anyway, am i right?

>>9843090
Oh I'm drinking again, I know how to taper, I just had absolutely no money or way to get booze. At least I had a 4 day break

>>9843127
well, im just glad you know how to taper. at least you will be spared the hell of cold turkey when "next time" inevitably happens.

ex girlfriend got married

an important ex girlfriend, maybe only time i felt genuine open and vulnerable and purely reciprocated love in my life

>>9843174
I'm too scared to find out if that one ex has gotten married. It would probably destroy me.

>>9843179
eh
time does heal all wounds...this would have burned horrifically a few years ago but it's been 7 years now and although it still fucking bites i think i'll be ok

>>9843187
Hope you are ok, man. From one al/ck to another. Take care of yourself.

>>9843200
thanks man, really

my taper is sort of called off for now but i think i will avoid the ER

my eclectic stash for the night:
4 sutter home cab sav mini bottles
12 pack stella
2 miller lite cans

what does al/ck/ smoke?

marlboro 27s here

>>9843209
Yes, anything to avoid the ER. its so humiliating, expensive, and time consuming.

>>9843305
Used to smoke Malboro Reds and then started smoking Port Royal rolling tobacco. As of now a pack of smokes are around $30 USD and pouches are $50+ USD, so I donned the mouth fedora and started vaping nicotine.

>>9843315
lol 30 USD fuck my ass, where do u live, iceland?

>>9843217
sounds like a little too much. you will likely wake up with leftover booze and begin drinking, and thus start another day of drinking,which will end... who knows?

>>9843316
guessing Auzzie or Canada

>>9843322
u r right

i actually do manage to hold myself back at night these days tho...had a 24 pack of miller lite for tapering which lasted me 3 days, hurrah

>>9843339
nice job tapering. best advice, which i dont always follow myself... try to avoid drinking two days in a row. if you can manage. guaranteed to avoid withdrawals that way. good luck boss.

im gonna post some random pics

>>9843368
no point. thread is about to hit the bump limit. you could be of use by creating a new al/ck thread, though

>>9843376

>>9843376

>>9843376

>>9843376

>>9843376

new thread boys and the one girl i think who is here

>>9843381
you are supposed to use a black and white image for al/ck threads. its canon. you may get a lot of shit for your image. but still, we needed a new thread and you created one. for that, thanks.

>>9843388
ive seen random images before

>>9842476
It will heal but can get worse. Depends what your binges are like. Your liver is being overworked and can't control the toxins. The same toxins are hitting your brain.

I learned all this while drunk so don't take my word ha

Fiancé left me cause of boozing
Just smoked some crack
Gonna try to pan handle for booze money tomorrow


Kill me

>>9843464
I had a cousin that was homeless for years and panhandled every day for dope money. He used to brag about how he'd make more in one day panhandling then a wage slave would make in two or three.

>>9842884
It's easy if you really want to drink a lot every day just because you generally want to at first until the real addiction kicks in. I knew a guy in college who was like 22-23 and he could drink 2 fifths of whiskey in a night and he wasn't fat. If I still bought liquor for my house, I easily view a fifth as a one night experience with just enough left for a few shots in the morning before I'd have to go out and get another bottle. That's why I don't buy liquor anymore. I'm 28.

>>9843522
2 fifths a day? How even?!

>>9843749
That's not hard really... black out drinking for me means I wake up shaking 3-4 days later with 6-8 bottles empty on the counter. But I mean, I'm also seeing shit and hearing music from my computer motherboard and shit after that. Fun week.

>>9843510
Does he come around in a semi decent manner?

>>9843992
That's hardcore, I only hear those stories about benzos. But yeah, never underestimate how much someone can drink.
I remember calling out my coworker when I was young, an older college said you best believe it. Now I do sadly

>>9844040
Caleauge *

>>9838524
Havent watched Simpson's in years, now drinking to it. Its great. Wbu anons?