/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I am making a present for my father. Going to assemble 10 good beers for him to try out.

>Maisel's Weisse x 2
(I already know this is a great beer, so I'll take 2 of 'em)
>Founders KBS
>Founderes Breakfast Stout
(both were recommended on /ck/, reviews looking good)


Recommend some more great beers to fill the set with. Christmas-fitting beers are a bonus.

Recently went through a six pack of Asheville Brewing Company’s Lemon Space Dog, an American style wheat ale brewed with lemon zest. Shit is refreshing as fuck. It pairs very well with meat-heavy pizza and fried bar food. Great example of how American styles can actually be really good.

>>9757559
Update:

>Maisel's Weisse
>Maisel's Weisse
>Founders KBS 5
>Founderes Breakfast Stout
>St Bernardus Christmas Ale
>St Bernardus Abt 12
>Founders All Day
>Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier

>>9757858
All Day IPA is a meme, replace it with something else. All hops, no body. There's nothing else there. I like hoppy beers, I like IPA's, All Day is pine needles in a can with no redeeming qualities.

>>9757710
Here’s the can. Always loved ABC’s designs.

>>9757879
Interesting. People seemed to have hyped it up quite a bit on /ck/ . It has a good review rating as well. I'll still leave it, since it's kind of a try-out pack anyways.

>>9757879
>meme
Retard

>>9757900
Will try out

>>9757909
It may be slightly difficult to find outside of North Carolina. They’re a smallish local brewery.

>>9757901
It’s worth trying, and I agree with the other guy it’s like pine needles in a can which I like, it’s a good natural taste. But they are just too watered down for me. Was not able to get a good buzz

Alright, my boys. The list is complete.

>Maisel's Weisse
>Maisel's Weisse
>Founders KBS
>Founderes Breakfast Stout
>St Bernardus Christmas Ale
>St Bernardus Abt 12
>Founders All Day
>Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier
>Lindemans Cuvee Rene
>Delirium Tremens

>>9757559
Founders is releasing CBS, a special edition beer, in december. basically a cbs aged in maple syrup barrels.

Im partial to pugachevs cobra.

>>9757901
All Day IPA is a "good" beer but not a great one. It's just a decent, fairly low abv IPA, but nothing special.

Founder's different breakfast stouts are very good though.

Quick question boys, I had a spruce tip triple IPA while wearing a flannel a couple nights back, am I walking meme now?

>>9758383
Time of the rope has come, anon. Just for wearing a flannel

homebrewfag
>kölsch
>irish red

>>9758383
It depends on how coordinated your outfit was. I pray for your sake it was old blue jeans and sneakers

>>9757980
Not bad.
I love cuvee rene although personally I would change it for 'Boon Oude Geuze Mariage Parfait' but both are great

drinkin these cuz i'm from brooklyn and sixpoint is everywhere, can someone explain why this isn't super bitter to me although its 102 IBUs but founders all day ipa which is 42 IBUs tastes way bitter?

I can get a canned pint of founders all day ipa for $1.73 at my grocery store.

Am I blessed?

>>9757559
>>9757858
Celebrator
Old Rasputin
Two-Hearted Ale

>>9759225
I would say two hearted ale is a big yes. More malty in character than a regular ipa.

Old rasputing is a good intro to stouts but nowhere near as good as some of the stouts he already has in mind.

>>9758634
Mirin' glasses

>>9757556
hate dark beer

>>9757879
thats all session IPAs, its a shit style

>>9758654
It was! That's all I fuckin have

>>9758617
it was a gift and it's starting to get cold

>>9759051
nobody is blessed if they're choosing all day ipa

>>9757556
How do yall feel about New Belgium?
1554 is a great stout, fat tire is a p good amber lager, day breaker is good too, not too hoppy, slightly cheaper as well, the witbier is great too
I hate voodoo and the fruit beers tho, but I usually hate all IPAS
for something you can get nationally, new Belgium is a p reliable choice.

>>9760117
Abbey is a fantastic dubbel, Fat Tire is fine, Voodoo is a terrible series of IPAs and I actually like IPAs. That's all I've had from them.

Anyone else get the mad elf kick this time of year? I've been consuming an absurd amount of that shit, with no sign of stopping

How have y'alls night gone?
Got home and unwound with a Shiner Bock and a bowl of coffee ice cream.

>>9760153
Found out my great uncle is in hospice and drank four bottles of my favorite winter warmer

It's been rough

>>9760170
Stay positive, anon. Even if things are bad you can strive to make the best of it.

>Buddy brings over a six pack of St. Ambroise Oatmeal Stout yesterday
>Drain three each
>Breddy good beer
>All gone
>Open mini fridge
>Miller High Life, wife's coolers and some Bud Light Lime cans that someone left after a party
>MFW
Welp. Time to git gud again.

>>9757879
I like All Day IPA a lot, it has a lot of flavor without being too cloying. It's the only craft beer that the club I go to sells, and it's great because it's sessionable without being boring as hell like a pale lager.

>>9760117
day blazer smells like rotten piss

>>9760123
I want to try their Abbey. Have you ever tried their pilsner? I'm a big fan of craft pilsners

Who are your favorite youtube reviewers?

I like Ronald Theriot and Special K (but only Special K himself, his friends provide no meaningful input)

>>9760608
I haven't, the stores around me don't carry it for some reason. Would highly recommend Abbey tho

>>9760607
yeah its beer

>>9760188
He died this morning. Cheers, y'all. He lived a good life

>>9760636
Gregs beer reviews for me but he's starting to look like the I've king lately.

Bought 6 bottles of Bernardus 12 today. I better not have been memed into this /ck/!

>IPA

>>9760248
>not pounding some be double ells with a good brother

I know this is the beer thread but I didnt want to make an entire thread about it, or ask in the alky thread cause it seemed im bad taste.

Is there a good/great gin bar (or bar in general) to go to in NYC? im gonna take a trip there soon and I want to get a nice Martini or G&T.

Who /home brews/ on /ck/?

>>9763417
fuckin I wish

>>9763417

I do. Most fulfilling hobby I've ever done desu senpai

>>9763417
I really don't have room for any more hobbies in my life, but I definitely like to hear from homebrewers in these threads!

>>9757858
All Day as a backyard BBQ session ale is near the top of their game in that particular category. Enough so to warrant a drive 3 hours to get a few cases once in a while

KBS and breakfast stout also nice.
Abt 12 is in my top 10
Weihenstephaner is my usual spring/summer go to as it's easy to find and is the gold standard for hefeweizen.

>>9760605
This.

>>9762080
If you like Belgian style ales there's no disappointment to be had there.

What are we drinking tonight? I'm on my 2nd can of pic related, it's goooood shit

>>9761551
what do you mean by "I've king"

>>9757556
I think I am turning into my dad.

I used to love strange and exciting beers. DIPAs, sours, russian imperial stouts etc.I still dont mind em but i rarely seek them out anymore. Theyre just memey. Give me a fucking pbr or miller light.

>>9763918
I meant to say he's starting to look like the ice king.

>>9764179
lmaooo you aren't wrong

Name the most meme styles everyone jerks off to /ck/

>NEIPA
>DIPA
>Russian Imperial Stout
>sour

What am I missing in 2017 beer?

>>9764209
I hope he does. The ice king is crazy but at least he's immortal :(
Maybe ice king greg will shroud the world in eternal clouds that rain bourbon county and breakfast stout forever

>>9764262
I got memed into rocheforte 10 for like 10 bucks. Tasted like goddamn moonshine or something. It was good but was just so strong. Where's the line between moonshine and beer? I always think of beer closure to tea. Like an essence of flavors.

>>9764262

don't forget
>saisons

mark my words, porters will be the next meme beers

>>9764320
Stouts are just meme porters to begin with

>>9764359
So are winter warmers

>>9763918

>>9764374

my man, good stuff. have you tried lil sumpin extra? its the best iteration of it they make. lil sumpin wild is also great.

>>9763417
hi fellow brewfag here. On /diy/ you can always find a home brew general thread.
Right now I'm working on a brown ale. I tweaked the recipe, I bumped up the ABV and put some mulling spice to give it a Christmas vibe.

>>9758887
Because IBUs are a ...*drumroll.*... meme.

>>9758887
Yours probably has more of a malt profile to balance it out. All Day is literally just hop water. IBUs don't account for balancing flavors, just how much bitter shit is in there. It's why imperial stouts tend to have high IBU numbers even tho they're more malty.

>>9765670
putting IBUs over 100 is a meme, but inherently they're fine

>>9760117
NB is dank senpai, but all the rage here in CO. is WeldWerks. AlphaBits and Hefeweizen are in the frige currently.

>>9765690
Too many factors determine how bitterness is perceived IMO like for example how fresh the bottle /can is, or how you react to different kinds of bitterness, or like you mentioned balancing taste factors, for me to even bothering reading the IBU. Of course if someone is trying to meme a huge number on the front label I notice it but I don't care. For example I tend to find juniper based drinks bitter still but hop bitterness I've almost lost the ability to react to because of habituation.

So This is about to be released soon in Dec.
Im a fan of the original Breakfast stout and KBS stout.
Is this Worth the Hype? its listed as $25 per 750ml bottle.

>>9765857
Honestly, there's a massive amount of 20-some dollar 750ml imperial stouts out there--if you like the style, you'll probably like most of them if they have a decent following/hype. I don't fret over getting KBS or CBS because I know there's a $22 vanilla coffee imperial stout released by my favorite brewery every winter that is much more available to me.

So I guess I'm saying, grab it if you see it but there isn't much that makes it stand out from the crowd, other than being sort of maple-y.

>>9760117
The trippel is good. I liked slow ride and the imperial IPA but they replaced them with the voodoos which I just don't get. Trying too hard to do something different maybe. The rest are all very sub-par to me, fuck fat tire especially. Never had the pilsner

>>9764371
are they? I've had winter warmers that aren't opaque or even that darkly colored in general.

>>9765981
Really? I've never seen one that wasn't dark. Hell I've seen a brewery re-brand their winter warmer as a seasonal porter. I'd love to try one like you describe

>>9757858
Would skip the weinsteph if you already got two of Maisel Weisse. The Abt 12 is amazing, the abt 10 as well.

I will not in any way call myself "good" beer-lover, but with almost 2000 different beers tasted, I have some experience. Some of my favorites that should be possible to get is:
> La Trappe Tripel
> Goose Island Sofie
> Brewdog Black Eyed King Imp(overpriced tho)
> Saugatuck Bonfire Brown
> Ballast Point Watermelon Dorado

Not sure if these are possible to get in the US, but they are still amazing:
> Nogne O Imperial Stout
> Omnipollo Noa Mud Cake Stout

>>9766327
beer-knower*
Apologies for the horrible english. Already deep down in the third quad of the day

Great to see a real beer-thread. Any beers/breweries i should try or visit when driving through Maine(Boston-Acadia-Quebec) and NY/Massachussets(Niagara-Boston)?

Im a big Ballast Point guy, any anons on here who've drank this brew? If not, ill stop by there brewery in san diego, if you're ever in CA. I'd recommend the following aka my fav beer list:
>Sculpin: Grapefruity IPA
>Commodore: Oatmeal Raisin Stout
>Dorado: Imperial IPA
>Barmy: Golden ale with apricot and honey
>Manta Ray: Double IPA
i dont get how eurofags don't really see our actual good beer especially if stone brewery opened up in berlin

>>9766327
>watermelon Dorado

>>9766393
>he thinks Ballast Point and Stone are good

>>9766422
You have any suggestions, im trying to branch out

>>9766393
>stone
>good
this is why I usually avoid these threads

>>9766429
I mean, im not a big fan, i wouldn't really buy it, but apparently that's what sells around here, im more of a ballast point guy, like i said, but im not loyal to that brand, therefore, anyone got any suggestions to any good beer, lemme know

>>9760147
Picking some up for the weekend, got pretty high expectations based on everything I’ve heard so far.

>>9766428
If only there was some sort of app or website where people could rate beers from breweries. Then you could just look up your local/regional beers and see if any of them are good!

Gee I hope someone invents this thing, it could be really useful!

>>9766428
Where are you located? Stone and Ballast Point are so widely distributed you could be anywhere, and people in your region could give you better recommendations

>>9766435
Stop letting these faggots bully you. Subjective is subjective.

>>9766451
why even bother posting this?

>>9766456
CA , Socal

>>9766498
In LA: Monkish and Firestone Walker

San Diego: Modern Times, Alesmith, Mikkeller

all make some great stuff, try out the styles you like and see what you think!

>>9766516
Alright, luckily i frequent both cities every other week, would make sure to pick some up :)

So, how much and how often does a good beer snob drink? Daily, weekly?

>>9766557
I guess it would be hard to maintain a reputation as "good beer snob", rather than alcoholic, if you drink daily – at least if one drinks more than a unit or two

>>9759225
Two-Hearted is an absolutely disgusting beer and I am astounded it is so popular. I've had it in the bottle and out of a can, both times fresh, thin body with no malt and a pine needle taste. Hopsecutioner is the same way.

>>9765913
do Americans really pay $20 for a stout?

>>9766701
For something high-ABV, yeah, on occasion. I've only done it once personally, I prefer to find it on tap because a glass while out with a friend will be cheaper and more fun than drinking a whole bomber on my own

>>9766692
>being this wrong

Though I'm interested, if you like IPAs, what are some beers you like?

>>9766692
Thats interesting, I find bells two hearted to be an ipa on the maltier end of ipa.

>>9766692
I disagree. Two-Hearted isn't as bitter as some IPAs but I wouldn't call it thin

Hopsecutioner is pretty meh yeah

>>9766701
holy shit and i thought £7 for a craft beer was pricey

Im barely touching the first layer of good beer, or, beer that isn't coors, tecate, corona, etc it turns out im more of an Ale drinker than lager, anyone have any good Californian stouts or porters?

>>9766812
In a country full of fermented piss water, they're gonna charge you an asston for some quality and good tastey beer, its not like UK were stouts and good beers are generally everywhere (stouts, porters, decent lagers, etc.). But, though our craft brewing is barely being recognized (I assume) you gotta atleast acknowledge the quality of our craft brews, from piss water to something actually decent if not by far amazing as i believe it is

>>9766948
See >>9766516
Firestone Walker has some good shit

You should also be able to get Deschutes out of Oregon, their stouts are exceptional

>>9766557
It's not always good beer, but I have one or two a day

>>9766393
Stone is alright. Ballast point blows.

>>9757556
When I saw the picture, I thought it was coffee. I have a problem

>>9757556
There's nothing wrong with budweiser though. It's just a light, watery beer, but that's a valid style. Watery, mostly flavorless lagers have a history of many hundreds of years going back to Germany etc.

You sound like you're probably American but a hipster trying to LARP on /ck/ because you think people in other countries really like chipotle coffee stouts. They don't, unless you're in Canada where they drink Moosehead and Labatts which are basically Budweiser.

>>9757556
Trillium is 5 minutes from my house and it's great. But holy shit, people buy 4-packs by the pallet there, one guy walked out with $500 worth of beer from them

>>9764374
I miss Hairy Eyeball. I haven't seen it in years, and it was one of my favorite beers.

>>9768096
I went to the Fort Point location a few months ago, person in front of me bought something like 8 4-packs in one go. I only wanted a couple since I had to fly home with it, but if I had the money I'd definitely buy more

>>9768120
Hey me too

>>9757556
American here
We’ve surpassed you euro trash years ago on quality beers
Drank pic related last night
delicious Belgium style strong ale
When will you euro trash stop with the American piss beer meme?
It’s over bros.
Get over yourselves
Not to mention the fact that Americans are mostly German Irish English and Italian and so was/is our beer and whiskey styles so suck my balls fuckers

>>9768368
O-kay

>>9768096
you know you can resell them for at least twice as much, right?

>>9763930
there's a middle ground, craft lagers, pale ales and non meme IPAs, blonde ales, brown ales

I'm not a huge fan of the meme styles (DIPAs, imperial stouts, sours, etc.)

>>9764262
you got them all covered. I wish we could discuss non-meme styles more often. Craft lagers (I know that's not really a style but you get the point) are my favorite

>>9764359

Guinness Extra Stout is not a meme, but the 12% ABV chocolate milkshake stouts are

>>9766327
watermelon dorado? that sounds like a total mem!

>>9766358
Is Saranac Brewery on the way? It might not be memey enough for beer snobs but they make some really good beers IMO.

>>9766393

Europeans either only have experience with the shitty macrobrews, or they themselves are only accustomed to European macrobrews like Heineken and don't like the robust flavors of craft beer. The bartender at my favorite bar is from Ireland and all he drinks from there is Kromacher and Stella, despite a lot of way better options.

>>9766435
you know, you don't have to listen to some random beer autist on /ck/, there's nothing wrong with either of those brands

>>9766393
Literally every fucking beer that Ballast Point makes is over-hopped.

>>9766948
Lager isn't a dirty word, there are many exceptional craft lagers out there. Likewise, there are shitty macro ales too like Genessee Cream Ale.

>>9766973
Craft beer is everywhere in the US now, but presently, most Americans would rather drink Bud Light.

Rednecks, frat boys, basic bitches, etc. stick to Bud Light.

>>9767941
I love craft beer, but you're right. I don't know why people pretend American beer pre-prohibition was super flavorful, I'm pretty sure adjunct lagers and cream ales were the norm.

European beer is hit or miss, some of the Belgian and German stuff is good, but for the most part they also drink mostly pale lagers. Their craft scene is growing though, I had some amazing craft beer in Ireland.

>>9769213
even Longfin and Wahoo?

>>9769183
Yeah, looks like its on the way. Any specific beers you would reccommend from Saranic?

>>9769274
Yeah. They're not particularly hoppy, but those alpha hops are still in there more than they should be.

Goddamn Ballast Point is probably more responsible than anyone else for the DUDE HOPS LMAO character of West coast beers and I hate them for that.

>>9769295
Adirondack Lager and Pale Ale are pretty good, I haven't had the others recently enough to remember what they're like exactly, but I liked them all.

>>9769304
I hate when beer companies unnecessarily hop certain styles

Like here's our 50 IBU pilsner

>>9769345
Yeah, that's pretty much Ballast Point in a nutshell.

>>9769350
Lagunitas pils is pretty good but I think it's slightly overhopped

Oskar Blues' Mama's Little Yella Pils is the best craft pilsner I've had so far

>tfw you find out your favorite youtube reviewer is a right wing redneck

>>9769414
Talking about Greg?

How hard is it to get KBS?

>>9769489
or at least the regular Breakfast Stout

I live in NYC

>>9769686
>>9769489
It's in most grocery stores. Just pay attention.

>>9769489
Ausfag here. Not hard at all here. Can't imagine it would be difficult for an American (which I'm assuming you are, sorry).

tried this for the first time today. may be my favourite example of the style

>>9769752
That truly is a great hefe! I have had my share of hefeweissen after 6 months in Germany, and that one is definitely among the top 5

>>9769761
most of the german hefes taste very similar to me. good, but very little variety. this one had a thicker, creamier mouthfeel but was still refreshing. cool

what other ones would you highly recommend?

Any anon here brews?

are you guys picky with beer and food pairings or do you drink whatever you want?

>>9770681
Honestly a pale lager pairs best with almost everything in my opinion

>>9770681
>>9770681
I have tried working on the pairings on some occasions. The brewdog show had a recommendation for chimay rouge and lamb, the combination was excellent. I had chimay blue with a cheese that utilized the same beer as an ingredient, superb. Generally I try to pair spicy foods with hoppy brews and hearty/meaty dishes with dunkles or robustly malted beers, seems to be fine. I think it is worth the effort to think of complementing food/drink pairings.

On another matter, christmas beers are getting around. Might not be able to get them from the season, but if there should be any leftovers I reckon getting them would be a plan. Any favourites you can speak for?

2016 vintage of pic relate being consumed atm

>>9771058
I normally drink stouts this time of year, Hr. Frederiksen Imperial Stout was one of the best stouts I've had lately. Unfortunately, it's one of the rare imported beers I find at the local liquour/beer store. Weihenstephaner Hefe Weissbier, though not a stout, is another good import we get here.

>>9770681
>Pale ale
Literally anything, but pizza in particular
>IPA
Curry, Thai, generally spicy stuff
>Brown ale
Burgers, sometimes steak but let's be honest I probably have cabernet for that. I love the style but there are only a couple of them in my area so I don't get them much for fear of it getting too same-y.
>Amber ale
This is what I like to drink with greasy bar snacks. Popcorn, pretzels, deep fried vegetables, buffalo wings, etc
>Pilsner
I love grilled chicken and roasted potatoes with a clean pilsner but I haven't done it in a while. Also solid with Mexican food
>Stout/porter
Typically on its own or with cheese, almost never with a meal
>Wheat beer
It's sort of okay with fish? The only wheat I drink frequently is Allagash White when I'm in New England, which is also when I'm eating the most seafood, so I guess it works

>>9771588
Oh! I forgot
>Saisons
Good with roasted meats, but I prefer very fruity saisons that I honestly think are best on their own

>>9770681
I basically just go
>Darker than amber = any red meat and pork
>Lighter than Pale = everything else
but I only barely stick to it

Anybody tried this? Love their summer shandy and this is a seasonal one for the winter ,so I'm tempted lads.

>>9770681
Not picky but there are combos I go out of my way for. They're right about IPAs and salt, I like em with parm garlic wings. Also I like a chocolatey stout with some buffalo wings because of the cayenne pepper.

Put it this way, with some foods the beer is more interchangeable and vice versa.

>>9771909
If you actually like shandy go for it, most of Leinie's taste the same (shitty) to me. The only thing of theirs I like is the Honey Weiss

>>9757559
No point in getting both kbs and breakfast, veeery similar beers

>>9771058
>>9771588
>>9772145
I'll have to try these pairings out. Normally I would drink craft beer by itself and have some commercial beer with food. I would like to cook with beer someday also, like beer battered fish n chips.

>>9771588
Stouts and porters pair well well with green vegetables imo. Green beans, broccoli, brussels sprouts, etc. Really highlights their complex flavors.

>>9772205
Fair enough. I might give the honey weiss a try too but usually thier shandys are variations of the honey weiss. They also have a vanilla stout for winter too that I might give a shot.

>>9770681
I have to agree with this chart and other anons that IPAs are very good with salty foods. An IPA and a basket of deep-fried cheese curds is heaven.

>>9771588
Try Baltic Porter with smoked venison. Heavenly.

To bad great northern is the only good beer

I know nothing about beer, but in the past have tried some and always hated it. I like gin, vodka, and wine, but hate beer. What are some good beers to try that will taste decent?

>>9772569
Get a good Hefeweizen and a good Stout.

>>9769304
I think Stone is more responsible for that desu

I only drink sour IPAs. Not any other IPAs. Not any other sours.

This thread is filled with entry-level pleb shit. I've reported most of you.

>>9757556
I don't like beer

>>9772938
Well f*ck you then.

>>9772832
Have a reply champ

>>9757559
NEW HOLLAND DRAGONS MILK AND WOLVERINES massacare

>>9758125
yeah i agree

Ive just identified that 3 8.1% beers are equal to about 1/2 a bottle of whiskey.

Am i a drunk?

anyone tried some meades

>>9773286
How much does mead usually cost and Can I get it at bevmo?

>>9772569
Get Tripped by New Belgium

>>9773442
I tried that stuff a few years ago. It was like $12 for a bottle.

>>9773467
Was it good?

>>9772832
>ruined palate: the post
>>9772938
Why are you in this thread
>>9772514
I'm not huge on venison but I haven't tried it in a while. My uncle will probably bring some to Christmas, I'll see if I can find a beer for the occasion
>>9772353
I've definitely had a stout with grilled pork chops and roasted brussels sprouts. I'll make sure I do that again and focus on the veggie/beer pairing instead of meat/beer

that meads like 25 to 30 a bottle

I kinda like miller high life un-ironically

>>9770681
I don't think it really matters

>>9773746
Me too, it's not bad at all for the price. 9.28 for a 12 pack after tax and bottle deposit where I live, that's as cheap as it gets for a beer that's not absolute pisswater, and it's easipy better than Budweiser and especially Coors

>>9773746
dont worry i unironically like Molson Canadian and drink 40s of Bleue Dry all the tim

also there is NOTHING WRONG with PBR its DISTINCTLY DRINKABLE and there is nothing offensive about it. it's not good in any way but it's not bad either and thats more than can be said about a lot of things

>>9773788
Never feel obliged to dislike a beer just because beer snobs say it's bad. I'm a craft beer enthusiast, but I don't mind drinking High Lifes, Tecates, Heinekens, etc.

What are some good blonde and amber ales?

>>9773819
whereabouts do you live? I don't know of any widely-distributed good blondes

>>9773823
New York

What about ambers and browns? We do have Brooklyn Brown Ale here which is delicious.

I just tried the New Belgium Fat Tire Belgian White, it's actually pretty good! Well done witbier

>>9773849
Dogfish Head Indian Brown is pretty good and widely distributed. I actually had a solid blonde ale from Gun Hill Brewing in NY a while back. I had it in the summer, don't know if it's available year-round but I remember liking it (and their pilsner was equally good)

>>9773871
Does Gun Hill distribute their beer? Or is it one of those breweries that you have to actually go to to to try their beers?

>>9773881
They distribute! Got it in some tiny-ass liquor store in Schenectady, seemed like everything they made was in 16oz cans

>>9773899
That's a good sign, I live a lot closer to The Bronx than Schenectady. Have you ever had any Bronx beers? I've had 2 of them and they were both delicious, I can't remember their names though.

I get paid today and I'm gonna try to do some beer shopping before work

>>9773905
Nah, I wasn't able to try much beer on that trip and it's the only time I've been to the state

>>9773910
Oh, okay

Brooklyn Brewery distributed widely, their Brooklyn Lager, Brooklyn Pilsner, Brooklyn Insulated (available now, very delicious if you're into dark beers) are all good

>>9773915
Yeah, I've seen them around! I'll keep an eye out for Insulated. I tend to gloss over breweries that aren't super local to me but that's a bad habit, thanks for the rec

get a room you homers

What beer should I use for cooking? For example for stews and chilis?

What are some good Belgian dark ales? I've had a few from the US and love them, I'd like to try some from Belgium that are available here

>>9773939
I'm a big fan of using schwarzbiers in stew

>>9773935
Where do you live? What are some of your local favorites?

>>9773939
something dark. the best chili i made was with a smoked porter.

>>9773975
Minnesota, I'm a big fan of Castle Danger Brewing, along with Bent Paddle and Surly. If you get out here and want a brown ale, I suggest Surly Bender or Coffee Bender, depending on how much you like coffee. Bent Paddle's 14 ESB is marketed as a bitter but drinks like an amber ale and is also phenomenal. Castle Danger's whole lineup is great, but their cream ale and stout are definitely my favorites. If you're a fan of lagers you should check out Bauhaus, they make some of my favorites. Great schwarzbier in particular.

>>9757556
pic related is the lager master race from bavaria

>>9773998
Thanks for the recommendations! I hope I can find some of this stuff in New York

What are your favorite Pale Ales?

How much of a sin is it to drink craft beer straight out of the bottle? I would rather drink it out of a glass when possible, but I can see there being situations where I don't feel like getting a glass to pour my beers in.

It seems like it would be more acceptable to do this with lagers and less robust pale ales/stouts/porters rather than IPAs

Just picked up some more beers in a variety pack.
>Long Trail Hibernator
Honestly tasted exactly like their normal beer, albeit a bit more hoppy. Drinkable, but I am not a big fan of hoppy beers.
>Magic Hat Jinx
Haven't tried it.
>Little Sumpin'
Overwhelmingly bitter.
>Grey Lady
The least beer-y beer I have ever had. It's practically flavoured water.
>Traveler Winter Shandy
Has a kind of soapy aftertaste, but otherwise tastes really fruity.
>Left Hand Nitro
Haven't tried it yet.

Anyone else find any of this?

>>9775128
Fug that came out? I'll have to go look for a bottle after the gym

>>9775201
I think they told liquor stores to hang on to it and all release it today

>>9775128
Yeah i gots two.

What on God's green earth could justify this being $7 a can

>>9775226
everything Mikkeller is overpriced, probably to make up for those oppressive euro taxes

Is this a meme drink or a legit good stout beer?

Best beer i buy on a regular basis.
Fuck y'all now i want to drink one of these real bad.

>>9775268
Sam Smith's is pretty much a meme in these threads based on how much it gets pushed for.

It's OK. A solid stout, but nothing special. There's plenty of better beers.

>>9775268
Their imperial stout and taddy porter are good. That's about it imo. The oatmeal stout seems very thin to me.

>>9775300
What stouts are better than this one?

>>9758634
What's the ABV on them fuckers?

>>9775349
Anything local probably

>>9775349
Pretty much anything local. For bigger names, look for Old Rasputin, Breakfast Stout, Yeti, Evil Twin Stout's, Speedway Stout, Ten Fidy - honestly there's a ton that are better.

>>9775387
>>9775424
Thanks lads.

>>9775268
I have only tried the chocolate stout and I didnt like it.

>>9775268
My friend (who is not into many craft beers) swears by it and says it's amazing but when I bought it I almost certainly got a faulty bottle because it tasted like fucking Malibu drenched in some cloying sweetness. Every hint of chocolate was long gone.

I've since refused to have it again (due to the heavy sin tax on beer in my country, one of the worst in the world for a non-muslim country and Sam Smith is overpriced to begin with).

I'm sure it's very good when it's not wrecked though, but I have no desire to find out.

Really liking this. Not really into hops but this isn't too strong on the bitterness and has a nice burst and aroma of flavors that even out into a single body.

I'm thinking 7.8/10 good but not exceedingly remarkable.

Drinking this tonight boys. Can't fuckin wait. They said they released CBS today so I hope they got some left over tomorrow morning when I go back.

>>9776139
>>9776552
Why the fuck are my pictures upside down. Goddamn it 4chan, hiroshimoot.

>>9776561
Orientation is stored in EXIF data, which 4chan strips.

>>9776552
>so I hope they got some left over tomorrow
good luck with that, probably should try going to an older or suburban neighborhood if you are serious about finding it tomorrow, probably will be tough. The place I went probably sold out within 20 minutes of opening this morning

>>9766358

Gonna second Saranac, everything they release is great

If you make it to Montreal check out Dieu De Ciel or Benelux

>>9775128
I may need to go hit up my bottle shop later today.

Until then I have this to tie me over

>>9769304
i really like sculpin and i still agree. the "watermelon dorado" double ipa just tastes like hops and nothing else. i even drank some of it when i was already absolutely fucking blasted, and i still couldn't taste anything (usually i enjoy beers a lot more when drunk)

>>9759272
I agree for the most part, but if you're ever in Fort Bragg and try it at the north coast taphouse, it's a whole different beer. They had it regular and nitro when I went, I normally don't like nitro anything but this was fantastic.

>>9763930
>what are non-meme craft beers

>>9766358
Stop fucking around and stop at Hill Farmstead in VT or Suarez Family in NY.
I'm from Montreal and you should try Dieu du Ciel! and Host Station. Benelux is okay for IPAs and belgian ales. Cheval Blanc is the most iconic place in MTL, not the best beers, but quite okay.

>>9776842
this stuff kinda sucks. not much flavor other than pine

>>9764565
lil sumpin extra is great, the normal variety is too wimpy for me. it's basically craft pbr. good for drinking 20 of though.

>>9766393
san diego style beers are pretty horrible, i've yet to find an exception. you guys just have no sense of when to stop with the memes.

>>9766557
A beer or two on weeknights, like my dad and his dad and so on. A bit more on weekends but I don't drink beer if I'm -drinking-.

Funny how macro breweries alienated some light beers style like pilsners. Great german pils and similar styles can be so damn good. Many new beer lovers only love those hoppy beers and thats sad. Pale ale are becoming victims of alienation of IPAs, most people will even skip a somewhat hoppy pale ale to an IPA almost automaticly.

>>9776847
you suck. lagunitas IPA is one of the all-time classics.

>>9776896
It's just the post-prohibition emotional trauma

Probably will take another generation or two before people get over it and embrace balance. Americans can learn. Look at how basketball-Americans have progressed. A generation ago the poor were drinking malt liquor and those with a little money only drank cognac. Now the poor have started to explore critter wines and the better off are drinking corison cabs and latour chassagne-montrachets.

Culture takes time, and America hasn't been around for long.

>>9776552
>>9775128
>>9776598
We're in business boys. Rode my bike back to bevmo just in time; they only had a few left. I'm saving the CBS for after work tomorrow. Fuck yeah.

>>9757879
>>9776847
>>9766692
>pine
is this the new buzzword to use against IPA so you can feel superior about yourself? All 3 of these are objectively solid beers

Here's a new one...

This is some good stuff right here. Along with some Pliny the elder

Only beer I can have for two weeks.

>>9776829
I have only had it in bottles. And it will always have a special place with me since it was my forst stout. But, at least in bottles, it is an over-carbonated metallic coffee tasting beer that is nowhere near a top beer.

Flying to Boston later today, what beer should I buy that is available this week and where should I buy it?

>>9778911
Boston lager from a dive bar

Delerium tremens
Great lakes christmas ale
Schneider weisse aventinus
Founders expedition stout
3 floyds alpha king
Bells oberon

>>9778911
go to Trillium you goober

>>9775268

Sam Smith Red Pill:

>SS is a predominantly known in the UK as a pub chain that serves cheap beer (£1.20 pints were still available in the centre of London within the last 5 years) and pays landlords/staff shit, rather than as a brewery
>In some weird twist of fate the brewery has an exceptionally good US marketing division that has resulted in its beers being much more common and well known in the states than the UK. Hence why it is all over these threads
>They make a wide range of traditional beers, ales and UK styles. SS is the only brewery in the UK to still use open fermentation (aka “Yorkshire Squares“), use very distinct and traditional British yeast strains and make styles other British breweries have forgotten
>Their single cask offering Old Brewery Bitter is great in a pub and probably the most 'authentic' English bitter around. Their bottled Imperial, Taddy, Oatmeal and Nut Brown are very good too.
>However, any craft beer fan will likely take one sip and scream "boring". Partly due to the old fashioned stylings of the offerings and partly a result of the average craft drinker having raped their taste buds into oblivion with a diet of hops and high strength flavors
>In short, you'll have a lot of fun going to and drinking at one of their old fashioned pubs in the UK. But if you're an American 'craftie' you should probably avoid the bottles completely.

How do you guys trade beer?

>>9774159
This entire thread is pale ales you shit

>>9779130
>Their bottled Imperial, Taddy, Oatmeal and Nut Brown are very good too.
Interesting. I may have to test this.

>>9779549
I don't count IPAs as pale ales

>>9779130
I hate people in the craft beer world who only like hop bombs and roast bombs

>>9776896
It's just pretentiousness

I've been into craft beer for years and I love a good craft pilsner or amber lager.

>>9776905
It is. Not everything has to be some super obscure, 150 IBU, 12% ABV palate bomb to be good

>>9776609
Saranac is such a good non meme brewery

My dream is to have a big booty Latina wife and a fridge stocked with craft beer

Speaking of this, do any cute Latinas or cute girls in general like craft beer?

>>9779130
Shove it up your ass. The beer is just okay.

>>9779689
I have a cute latina, and she doesn't like beer at all.

>>9758062
It's delicious
>>9772244
Don't listen to this faggot

I typically don't like pumpkin beers, but this was delicious. It's too bad they didn't make it this year for some shitty habanero pumpkin beer.

>>9757556
Drinking this right now, rate my beer

>>9780223
Depends. How many Busch points do you have?

>>9780271
~50, just bought a shirt, and a hat

>>9780284
7/10 beer

>>9780397
it's the best cheap beer

>>9779689
You don’t want a wife who drinks

>>9780401
It's the bottom of the Budweiser fermenter with the yeasty detritus

>tfw my local tesco's started stocking Westmalle
I'm gonna spend so much money

Fell in love with this beer tonight. Giantsbane double stout from fair state in mn. This brewery is really hit or miss for me, but they knocked it out of the fucking park with this beer

>>9776552
It's weird man.

When KBS came out the place I go to sold out in like a day or two.

They got their Bourbon County Stout in last week, put it out on a big display, and now a ton of it is just sitting on the shelf.

Are there any beers made year-round that taste like Mad Elf with a similar ABV 11%?

>>9781170
planning on picking some of this up soon, glad to hear an endorsement. How do you like Fair State's other stuff? The only one I've had is Roselle and it's...fine, I guess?

>>9775268
2chocolately4me. I liked the other beers that came with their 4 pack w/ pint glass promo.

old picture of a black velvet I made. Excuse the mess, I was a depressed slob at one point in my life.

Old picture of a black velvet I made. Excuse the mess, I was a depressed slob back then, but I got my shit together now.

>>9781380
>>9781401
Bro why did your file size grow by one kilobyte

>>9781412
I'm not sure, all I did was a last minute edit

>>9781288
Is this good? I've been eyeing it when I go to the store. Worth grabbing a single bottle for a mix n match pack?

>>9781401
>went to a drinking wedding in Vermont a while back
>way off in the mountains or some shit, literally nothing there but bankrupt ski resorts
>pretty nice place though
>only place around to get food was a super old school irish pub with a crusty old irish immigrant owner/bartender
>one of my fag friends from outside of NE tries to order a black and tan
>owner almost threw him out
It was pretty funny to be honest.

>>9781302
I've only had Roselle as well, but I really liked it and have some in my fridge. Had giantsbane on tap tho

>>9781505
did the bartender not know how to make one?

>>9760248
great beer but gives you the worst farts

Why did I wait so long to try this? Might be my favorite porter. Fucking luscious mouthfeel.

>>9781928
It's "offensive" to the Irish to call it a black and tan. Should have told that old fuck to get over it

>>9782928
wait what? i thought its offensive to call it an irish car bomb, while half and half or black and tan are fine

>>9782928
>It's "offensive" to the Irish to call it a black and tan. Should have told that old fuck to get over it
I wouldn't mind knowing the history of that, to understand why it is offensive.

>closest liquor store has Goose Island Bourbon Beer for $22 a bottle

top kek

>>9783105
This sounds more reasonable. Someone told me not to order an Irish Car Bomb drink at an Irish pub, especially in Ireland, because it;s fighting words.

>>9783111
he may be referring to an Irish Car Bomb, read about the IRA sometime.

>>9783177
>offensive" to the Irish to call it a black and tan
black and tan is apparently offensive too since the guards that went into town wore black and tan colors

>>9783111
>The name "Black and Tan" is not used in Ireland as a term for a mixture of two beers. The drink is instead referred to as a half and half.[1] Indeed, the drink has image problems in Ireland and elsewhere due to the association with the Royal Irish Constabulary Reserve Force, nicknamed the "Black and Tans", which was sent into Ireland in the early 1920s.[1] As a result, in Ireland the name is seen as contentious and disrespectful.[3]
>In March 2006, Ben and Jerry's released an ice cream flavour in the United States for Saint Patrick's Day inspired by the drink; the name offended Irish nationalists because of the paramilitary association. Ben and Jerry's has since apologised. A spokesman told Reuters, "Any reference on our part to the British Army [sic] unit was absolutely unintentional and no ill will was ever intended."[4] In March 2012, the drink's name once more came into the news when Nike, as part of an Irish themed set of designs, released a pair of shoes advertised as the "Black and Tan" and generating offence similar to the earlier Ben and Jerry's ice cream.[5]

tl;dr in the 20's, the bongs sent the forces to ireland to beat the shit out of the paddies. this squad was called the "black and tans" and thus the mention of the name instigates butthurt in paddies who weren't even alive at the time

>>9783105
>>9783111
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tan#Controversy

>>9772569
Dogfish head's 61 minute IPA if you can find it.

If you're looking for some 'different' beers, check out some Goses or Sours, they're very different from the typical beer taste and you may like them

>>9783243
Why are the Irish such losers? Oppression by the British is actually good for them imho

>>9783276
>>9783177
>>9783243
>>9783191
>>9783187
>>9783111
>>9783105
>>9782928
>>9781505

>giving a shit what subhuman nospuds think

also, >>9781401 is not a "black velvet". a black velvet is a double whisky with a pint of guinness to chase it with

>>9776688
found this really underwhelming to be honest with you. maybe it would have aged well, given the alcohol content, but i've had far better stouts for far cheaper

>>9783300
>black and tan
fuck I've been wrong all these years, yet when i order a black velvet at a bar they give me a black and tan.

>>9779130
I'ma craft guy and would say SS makes best oatmeal stout. Never had one That's as velvety and smooth as ss.

>>9783105
calling it an irish car bomb is not offensive. It's fucking retarded since that is an entirely different beer cocktail (or U-boot) drink containing guinness, irish whiskey and bailey's

>>9776842
this is probably my favorite beer so far, only started drinking 2 months ago

>>9780401
>best cheap beer
Sorry pal that trophy belongs to yeungling

>>9783269
Why dogfish head's?

>>9783686
>yeungling
>cheap
It's the price of bud, which is one of the most expensive macros.

>>9781940
Colt 45 farts are the worst

>>9780101
You should try to get her into beer, even if it's entry level shit like Tecate

>>9780445
Why not? Obviously I don't want an alcoholic wife, but a wife who appreciates beer too would be great.

I had O'Hara's Stout last night and it was delicious

Ireland's craft beer game is pretty good

got bottle of mxyzptlk and fob3. Which should I crack?

Has anyone ever had a reaction to red ale? Been drinking different pints for year but in the last month I've had serious stomach pains after drinking as little as a single pint of red ale.

Felt like the lining of my stomach was being stretched and I was pretty gaseous, weird stuff. Anyone ever experienced this?

Think I could be allergic to something in red ale in paticular

>>9783243
>tl;dr in the 20's, the bongs sent the forces to ireland to beat the shit out of the paddies. this squad was called the "black and tans" and thus the mention of the name instigates butthurt in paddies who weren't even alive at the time

>hurr theyre just butthurt
they call it something different for a reason, and probably never called black and tans that. This is like somewhere else having a drink called a "KKK" and then someone trying to order that in a black bar
>but the micks are just butthurt
Im not even Irish, but just saying that theyre "just butthurt" about someone bringing up history shit that was legitimately upsetting

>36 Keystones for $21 even

How can other cheap beers even compete?

>>9784675
This is 4chan, filled with rednecks who think there's nothing wrong with the confederare flag

>>9784679
Keystone Light is one of the shittiest cheap beers, you're better off paying slightly more for High Life

>>9784680
>implying there is
still shouldnt put it up in a black neighboorhood tho

>>9784685
Pretty sure they don't sell High Life in anything bigger then 12 packs here

>>9784680
There isn't if you live in a place where it's accepted and you don't personally do because you think slavery should have never been abolished

>>9784434
red ale doesn't contain any particular allergens as far as I know
you probably just drank too much / too fast / too sparkling
I almost always hard pour my beer desu, helps you better appreciate the flavour and isn't as hard on the stomach

>>9784705
2edgy4me

>>9784709
Not him but I direct poured a beer into my glass in front of the bartender and he told me I was fucking it up

>>9784985
bartenders are taught to pour it down the sides because it's faster (you don't have to wait for the head to come down)
but it's not actually better in any way, for me it's definitely worse because I prefer low carbonation in my beer
there is nothing worse than a nice, complex high ABV beer ruined by overcarbonation (looking at you, Belgium), on the other hand I don't think I ever wanted my beer to be more carbonated

>>9784985
Not an argument

>>9785214
I fucking love carbonation, I think it makes beers easier to drink

>>9783312
I thought it was ery good and drinkable given it's high ABV but I also agree with you that I've had better tasting stouts for cheaper. I have another bottle that I am going to age for a year. I'm hoping it mellows out and the Vanilla comes through more then.

I popped open my CBS last night and thoroughly enjoyed it, I feel it's the smoothest Barrel Aged stout I've ever had and would prefer it over KBS(But that's just me)

>>9780101
>>9784329
From my experience I got my gf into hard Ciders and then she slowly moved into sour beers.

If you have any 2 Towns Cider House in your are I'd try to get her into that. If not, try and look for Strongbow's Cherry Blossom Cider, she loves that as well.