/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Please tell me more about hipster coldbrews.
I'm kidding, just fuck off.

>>9757840
>he has a manually operated kettle
Retard.

>>9757840
>drinking coffee
dude just take caffeine pills lmao

>>9757840
I know you’re just having a laugh, but why are some people so pretentious about hot beverages? It’s not difficult nor does it require any special equipment to make a decently delicious cup of coffee. Sure a well-made coffee from high-quality beans and equipment is especially tasty, but a pot from a regular drip-brew coffee maker with middle-quality beans isn’t bad either. Hell, even a Keurig-made cup loaded with a decent kcup or even fresh grounds in a reusable cup is delicious and invigorating.

>>9757840
only thing you need

>>9757844
Stovetop kettle is manually operated.

>>9757856
I bet you've never had a good cup of coffee in your life.

>>9757872
Not if you have an electric stove

>>9757894
Do people not have gas stoves anymore?
I've never been in a house that has electric hot plates in lieu of a good gas burner.

Are there really people who have never had to ignite a gas stove manually with a lighter during power outages?

>>9757911
Many many places have electric instead of gas. You must not get out or travel much.

>>9757924
The way you write makes it seem like you're smug about having to travel to other places because your home country is so shit and uninteresting.
What a strange thing to feel proud about.

>>9757924
>gas is manual
Retard.

>>9757939
Nah, more like how I'm shocked that you think that electric appliances are rare. I can't imagine how anyone could actually hold that opinion in this day and age.

>>because your home country is so shit and uninteresting.
It was pretty shit, yeah. Thankfully my family moved when I was 6. But I'm not sure that matters at all. Surely you must have traveled at some point for your work, for school, for visiting friends and family, or simply seeing the great sights of the world?

>>9757911
In vast swaths of flyover territory the only gas available is the unregulated propane companies which means you pay a fortune in shekels for it in winter when (((they))) fill your tank. Fuck that noise.

I always forget that yanks don't use electric kettles

>>9757840
How do I start knowing shit about coffee?

>>9757968
Isn't flyover land ripe with fresh fracked natty gas?

Why is it every time someone starts one of these bait/shit flinging threads they use a title? Like /vegan general/ or /coffee/? If you've been here even one week you've likely already seen handfuls of those "generals" die to shitposting or inactivity. Is it just the same person or do people really think they're starting a general?

>>9757840
>If your coffee setup isn't 100% manually operated, you don't know shit about coffee.
>Anime poster

Post discarded

>>9757840
Almost all of the good burr grinders are electric. I bet you still grind with Hario Skerton you colossal pleb.

>>9757840
I'll stick with my espresso, thanks.

>>9758091
There's a lot of pretty good hand grinders now. Lido, Feldgrind, Aergrind, Helor, Kinu, Comandante, etc.

Although large flat burr electric grinders still dominate the top tier.

>>9757947
The poster you're replying to isn't the one who implied that

>>9757840
>he requires water to make coffee

if your coffee setup isn't 100% dry, you don't know shit about coffee

>>9758201
>requiring coffee to make coffee

If your coffee isn't 100% philosophy, you don't know shit about coffee

>be coffee drinker
>drink one flavour of coffee
>the coffee flavour
>grow heavily addicted to it
>can't function without it's bad taste
>lash out at anyone who criticizes the beverage who's spell you have fallen under
>later commit suicide after having a revirginization ceremony

Anyway, tea is better. Coffee has one flavour, tea has every flavour in the world. Iced tea and hard tea and hot tea there's teas for every type of day and tea people are happier.

>>9758212
>tea people are happier
>only one flavour
Man I know this is bait but jeez. Some people actually think this.

>>9758228
>go to coffee shop
>i'll have a coffee
>ok

>go to comfy local tea den
>I'll have a tea
>oh, what kind? We have black and green and roobios and earl gray and white and flower petal and dandelion and chocolate chip and mint and orange pekoe and bumblebee and korean and genchi and wildflower and lavender and english breakfast and darjeeling and maybe you would just like to look at our catalogue of hundreds of flavours?
>no that's okay you're such a nice and pretty cashier though, much nicer than those stinky soulless coffee cashiers conscripted concubines
>anyway I'll have the bumblebee chocolate tea and here's a handsome tip because I am a very generous and kind individual
>oh wow I could be a concubine of yours if you know what I mean
>Yeah, but I have to warn you my dick is fairly large and uncircumcised so it will take me longer to finish
>oh that won't be a problem, I'm already super aroused and we have a king sized bed in the back

coffee drinkers btfo

>>9758201
>he requires a grinder to make coffee
If you aren't just crunching up the beans or swallowing them like pills, you don't know shit about coffee.

>>9758246
I was going to write snark back but your alliteration made me smile. I love tea and coffee both, honestly, and while you can have espresso or latte or hard coffee, the basic idea of roasted bean doesn't change. Whereas teas... really honestly if it has a leaf and isn't inedible you could probably make a tea from it.

>he does grow, roast, and grind his own beans
>he doesn't take water from a nearby river
>he doesn't heat up his water over a fire with lumber from a nearby forest
>he doesn't mail all his 4chan posts to his grandson because technology is too confusing to operate

>>9758279
you can't outsnicksnark the outshark

>>9757840
>use manual burr grinder
>use french press
>use stovetop kettle
>spark for stovetop uses electricity

FUCK

>>9758322
Piezoelectric ignition, get yourself an RV stove

>>9757840
I just have an electric scale, and an electric kettle to boil water to use in a gooseneck because it's faster than stovetop
I'm not using a manual scale faggot

>>9758246
i've roasted my own coffee a handful of times, and it amazes me every roast the flavors a single origin bean can go through as it passes through the stages of darkness

but of course, if you go to any coffee shop that doesn't roast it's own (insanely rare these days, outside of say, seattle), you'll have a taste of generic overoasted colombian #37925 multi batch late harvest from no less than five (5) different farms all at elevations under 500m, which has been sitting for two months. meaning it will taste the same as the shit you had last week, because it's just stale burned coffee.

>>9757840
Why does coffee attract so many hipster douchebags?

This is a good thread for this, christmas is near and my dad's a coffee drinker, I wanna get him something related to that. I got him a beam grinder last year which he uses daily, what else is there?

>Living in the 1800's

Fuck off.

>>9757840
You talk like a fag and your shits all retarded.

Lads, recommend me some decent whole bean coffees to buy. Preroasted please, I don't want to roast my own coffee.

>>9760226
I like aldi's single origin peru and honduras stuff

>>9760190
What does he use to make coffee?

>>9757860
wass this m8? I like its "vibe"

>>9757860
its need to be copper tho.

>>9757840
>he requires electricity to make coffee

If you don't have a 100% manually operated backup coffee setup, you cannot sip deliciously fresh and awesome coffee during a natural disaster or power outage while looking out the window in smug comfort at your helpless plebeian neighbors who spent all their time worrying about stupid shit that didn't matter.

>>9760318
Some kind of strainer thing, not too sure.

>>9757911
even a gas stove requires electricity to start

>he doesn't have a mini nuclear reactor to power his coffee set up
Each and every one of you is so stupid. The radiation intertwines with the coffee perfectly for a real explosion of flavour every time you take a sip. Plus you can help your government by selling them your spare depleted uranium. If you do anything else you are literally chimp level.

>>9760677
No it doesnt.
Retard.

Why do people become obsessed with coffee? Just drink it and move on what the fuck. It doesn't require more thought than that

>>9760824
Because they live meaningless lives lacking purpose

Is the Aeropress a meme or can it actually make top tier coffee?

>>9760883
What does ‘meme’ mean in this context?

>>9760889
All the reviews I've seen seem to imply it's better than a traditional French press, and I'm just trying to gather some more opinions because that is a lofty claim and I don't want to fall victim to some fad.

>>9757860
turkish coffee is shit. i've had tons of it growing up in a greek family. no matter where i have it or who makes it. tastes like complete filth. the most barbaric hamfisted way to brew coffee imaginable. literally the retard's version of espresso.

>>9760824
Same reason why people get more interested in anything, I guess.

>>It doesn't require more thought than that
The same could be said regarding anything else people enjoy: music, movies, video games, TV, sports, theater.... Some people get really into coffee. Other people don't care. Same with any of the other things I listed.

>>9760941
It fucking WORKS tho. Holy shit I feel like a Greek god after a shot or two of that mud

>>9760898
Why not just buy one and try it out? They aren't expensive. Any sort of significant research or "opinion gathering" is probably going to cost you a lot more in time. If this was some expensive fancy machine then I could see wanting to thoroughly research it before dropping big money. But an Aeropress costs what, $30? Buy it and try it. If you aren't happy with it then return it stating you were dissatisfied with the product.

>>9760953
I'm going to buy one. It's an interesting little novelty, if nothing else. I just want to hear the thoughts of people who are more into coffee than I am.

>>9758246
This is a bad argument. You're calling all different varieties of beans "just coffee" to insinuate that they are all the same, when even simply varying the roast level has a huge impact on flavor. That's like me saying all tea is "just leaves" and is all the same. I also really fail to see how adding chocolate to tea makes it something different or better.

This is all I need....

>>9760824
Why do people become obsessed with food? Just drink soylent and move on what the fuck.

>>9760990
>all different varieties of beans
There’s only two varieties of coffee bean, retard.

>>9761098
Awful

>>9757886
I bet he has. He's just a true addict like me. You see kid it gets to a point and all coffee tastes passable the way wineos think all wine is passable. You just have to be disappointed with life enough times to find that out.

>>9761138
percolators can make great coffee, you just have to regulate the heat and perc time and bean to water ratio down to a science

ya know, like any other brew method

>>9761220
>percolators can make great coffee
You're boiling the coffee through itself. It's a literal shitstorm of over-extraction

>>9757840
aropress is a sect

>>9761252
But percolator coffee has one of the lowest concentrations of caffeine. I don't believe it's also over-extracting.

>>9761285
>But percolator coffee has one of the lowest concentrations of caffeine
That's very likely because the ratio is weak.

>>9761319
Don't talk to me until I've finished my entire percolator.

>>9761252
I'm pretty sure the idea that boiling coffee makes it bad is an old wives tale. As long as you don't brew for a too long time, it won't over-extract. I've tried brewing coffee in temperatures ranging from 75 to 100 C, and while there are certainly differences, I don't think one temperature is inherently better than the other. Whether you want to brew relatively cold or hot depends on what the bean has to offer.

Of course the finer your grind and the hotter your water, the narrower the window of optimal extraction gets, so it's certainly easier to fuck it up at higher temperatures since the perfect total extraction time could be as short as 30 seconds, where being off just 5 seconds in one direction or another might mean an over- or under-extracted cup.

>>9761336
>I'm pretty sure the idea that boiling coffee makes it bad is an old wives tale
Jesus Christ, you fucking people

>>9761393
>blindly trusting dogma instead of doing your own experiments
You're one of those guys that only flip their steaks once, right?

>>9760507
than it's filđan, muslims use that. Also it has some allah akbar scribbles on it
>>9760505
it's džezva, used on balkan to make turkish coffe, even though real turkish coffee is made differently.

>>9761413
Uh, of course I have. Using anything over 205°F in any method creates noticably bitter results

>>9761434
Then brew for a shorter time. What happens when you take coffee and brew it at a boiling point for a duration of 1 second? Does it over-extract? No, it under-extracts. Now boil it for 5 minutes and you're sure to have over-extracted bitter coffee. Thus we can mathematically prove that somewhere between an extraction time of 1 second and an extraction time of 5 minutes, there exists a point where under-extraction starts to turn into over-extraction, i.e. the optimal extraction time. You can absolutely get a palatable cup of coffee even at boiling temperatures as long as you don't brew for too long. There's nothing magical that happens at 205 F, even though many call it the maximum temperature. This should be obvious to anyone with a decent knowledge of chemistry, and the understanding that chemical reactions don't just suddenly turn on at a specific temperatures.

>>9757840
My boi, am I supposed to burn wood to boil the water!!!?

What do you do when you got a batch of beans so bad you can taste them through creamer? Do I just throw these out?

>>9761886
Give them to the neighbor's dog.

i cant stand the drink but i love coffee icecream

>>9761502
You absolutely do extract undesirable compounds at boiling temp that you don't at 205°. What are you not getting about this

>>9761970
Like what?

Is there any way to make kcups taste good? It's either drink the free kcup coffee at work or spend $4 a cup at the Starbucks in the lobby.

>>9761973
What brand? I don't think they're all that bad.

>>9761982

Green mountain. They have breakfast blend, dark, double diamond and hazelnut

>>9761988
Oh, yeah, those are pretty mediocre. They're our source of half-caf. If I were you, I'd probably just get their dark and deal with it. It's roasted heavily enough that the difference in flavor isn't going to be that pronounced between it and another dark.

>>9760990
Cripes, the the caffeine cuckold is getting cantankerous we'll need countless CC's of coffee to get him back under control.

>>9761502
>and the understanding that chemical reactions don't just suddenly turn on at a specific temperatures

They won't literally turn on at specific temperatures, but in the presence of some activation energy barrier, I would imagine it's possible for the kinetics to be dominated largely by the reaction temperature rather than the time the reaction is allowed to run (at least for timescales that are human-relevant).

>>9757840
Digital thermometers, bitch

>>9761098
6/10 bait
Apply yourself

Anyone have a Kalita Wave 185? I need to know if it fits on a 12oz mug. Every photo on the Google just shows it on a carafe.

>>9757840
The minute they make a coffee anime, im switching to tea

>>9760941
Omg ' most barbaric hamfisted way to brew coffee'
Im fucking dying!! My best friend in high school was a Turkish foreign exchange student and she excitedly showed me the whole process only for me to spit the dirt right back into the lil cup hehe oops

>>9762607
Go watch gochiusa.

What branded coffee do you use?

>>9762686
>his coffee has a brand
lmao

>>9762715
>He buys his coffee

>>9760677
It uses electricity but you could use a match to light it.

>>9758174
What's the best hand grinder for the money right now?

>>9762686
Fresh Roasted Coffee LLC on Amazon. Just make sure you choose the option that's shipped by them.

Roasted the day it's shipped, A TON of single origins to choose from, and mostly <$7 a 12oz bag

>>9762749
Aergrind or Feldgrind2. Same quality as Lido/Helor/Kinu/etc for less than half the price. Both right around $100.

Comandante may be a little better out of the ones I listed, but it's significantly more expensive.

>>9760685
>it's an anon thinks that electricity is something that only comes through prongs inserted in a hole in the wall episode

>>9762945
Please tell me you have a gas stove, and have had power outages while owning it, and that you don't know how to light it without electricity. Please. That'd be fucking hilarious to know that somebody lives like that

>...

>>9760285
I'm a fan of Aldi, thanks pal!

If you're young enough to watch cartoons, you don't know shit about coffee.

>>9763041
please enlighten me

>>9763122
Wait, you actually don't know?

>>9763197
i'm waiting
proptip: you can't

>>9763209
Open the gas and use a match.

>>9763122
Dude... A gas stove? It releases gas. Just fucking light it.
Literally the same principle behind pic related.
Don't be fucking stupid.

>>9763216
>use a match
you mean light it? with magic?

>>9763225

>>9761129
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>9762788
What about the ROK?

>>9763122
>>9763209
>>9763225
Literally just turn the knob to low and use a match or lighter to ignite it. I hope you're actually this stupid.

>>9763324
>literally use electricity to light it

>>9763343
>matches and lighters use electricity
I don't know what fancy space age matches you use, but where I come from they're these little sticks that you slide across a strip on the box and it ignites.

>>9763380
>you slide across a strip on the box and it ignites.
M A G I C
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>>9763324
>>9763343
>>9763380
>>9763218
>>9763225
>>9760677
Fire is a chemical reaction that requires 3 things: oxygen, heat and fuel.
You ignite the fuel by creating a short burst of intense heat, it doesn't have to be an electric spark.

>>9763430
Are you being really obtuse and referring to the minor excitement of electrons to create a spark as electricity?

>>9763441
yes
a spark is electric by definition, i don't see what's obtuse about that

>>9762607
its been several years dude.

>>9763257
No good at all

>>9757840
I broke the carafe for my french press though :(

I see people frequently complain that French Press is difficult to clean but I do not understand it takes little time and has never caused me difficulty thank you for listening.

>>9763781
I hope people aren't actually taking the filter piston apart every time they wash it, it's really not necessary at all.
I stopped using mine because of the mud at the bottom of every cup, plus, washing it before every use was getting to be a chore.

>>9763781
Probably the same idiots who say a garlic press is hard to clean.
Don't get those two confused by the way. From someone who knows.

>>9763781
>I see people frequently complain that French Press is difficult to clean
But how? I literally just rinse it under water for like 30 seconds and it's basically sterilized

>>9757840
>100% manually operated

how do you heat the water, friction?

a fucking syringe

>>9762788
>100 bucks for a grinder

the fuck? How do they justify that?

>>9763825
oh no! my skinny jeans!

>>9763848
That's cheap. Nothing below it is any good at all.

>>9757843
I worked in a hotel that had a star bucks so I was required to read material on their cold brew shit and learn to use it. The general idea is that because the brew is slow and cold, it's far less bitter. the shops love it because it is easy and cheap, you literally just soak coffee in water for 24 hrs then pull put the coffee and chill. If the place has high turn over this will be done every day, but if it doesn't, that chilled coffee can be up to 3 days old

>>9758211
underrated post

>>9763122
>>9763209
>>9763225
>>9763430

Am I a coffee snob or a coffee pleb?

>brew my own with an aeropress and fresh ground beans
>add 4 ice cubes and peppermint creamer, don't drink until it's completely cold

>>9760948
no shit stupid, theres drugs in it

>>9757840
I'd rather not manually pump my espresso machine.

>>9764645
>peppermint creamer
do you even have to ask?

Moka pot coffee is legit

>>9765042
It's so fucking delicious I can't help it

>>9765105
>Ingredients
>Water, Corn Syrup**, Vegetable Oil (High Oleic Soybean and/or Partially Hydrogenated Soybean and/or Partially Hydrogenated Cottonseed), and Less than 2% of Sodium Caseinate (a Milk Derivative)***, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Maltodextrin, Mono- and Diglycerides, Dipotassium Phosphate, Carrageenan, Sucralose, Acesulfame Potassium (Non-Nutritive Sweetener).

Mmmmmm, no nutritional value, and a huge load of estrogenated soybean oil, the best way to start your day!

>>9765948
Oh cool the wet blanket is here to tell us shit we already know.

>>9757840
Are the pourovers in coffee shops just for show?
I never see them being used.

>>9766040
You have to order one for them to use it...

>>9766040
Did you try asking them to make you a pourover coffee?

>>9766048
>>9766206
I did and they pulled out this plastic stand pourover thing instead of the ones on the shelves behind them.

The girl using it had clearly never touched it before, she poured it all wrong and the coffee tasted like shit.

>>9766220
What did the other ones look like? You know there's more than one kind of pourover device yes? Some coffee shops want you to specify which device to make it with.

How do you make Vietnamese coffee? Is it just an espresso with condensed milk?

>>9761145
not at all comparable

>>9762586
yes it fits

>>9763849
how do you fuck up something so simple

>>9766830
It's supposed to be made with cafe du monde or another chicory blended coffee. those are available pretty much worldwide now.and then yes sweetened condensed milk. there are tons of videos about it so theres no reason to ask here of all places

>>9766220
wtf where do you live. the coffee shops around here have a staff member entirely assigned to do only pour overs all day.

>>9763464
Good one, you sure showed them.

Shot of an Ethiopia Hambela

>I use glass french press daily for years
>mom uses only steel now after breaking all her glass
Why is this?

>>9766919
Thanks. I think it's going to be my Christmas present to myself. The ol' V60 is getting stale

>>9767441
She's clumsier

>>9757843
>coldbrews
>He can't even cook things without electricity
Lmaoing at your life matey.

>>9767579
>implying gas is manual
Unless you heat your water on a charcoal grill or wood fire outside, it doesn't count as manual.

>>9767636
>Without ELECTRICITY
How's that reading comprehension working out for you?
>He doesn't know that alcohol burners exist.
It's what I've been using, works pretty great with my moka as I can keep it on my desk.

>>9767675
Alcohol burner doesn't count as manual.

>>9767716
>>9767675
Also neither does Moka pot. The water heating creates the pressure rather than your hands.

>>9767719
>>9767716
And neither the coffee beans at that point.
You didn't pick them from homegrown plants that you got the seeds to from naturally occurring plants.
Nor did you roast them with friction from your hands.

>>9767716
Also, if wood fire or charcoal counts as manual then alcohol burners do too.
Also >>9767675 Moka pots.

>>9767738
Tru. Basically OP is an idiot.

>>9767744
Only if it's an open pit you burn the alcohol in. Otherwise the shape of the device is directing the flow of the flame making it not manual.

>>9767747
Except OP only said electricity, hence my reading comprehension remark.
An alcohol burner doesn't require electricity.
Furthermore the burning of wood is in itself automatic as it is self sustainable. So anything but hand friction is in itself not manual.

>>9767760
He also said "100% manually operated"

>>9767769
Aha! You see, here you should be putting more focus on the word "operated".
A gearbox can be manually operated but it still performs the automatic function.

>>9767784
I'd still call a gearbox manual for that reason, but not if it had a flywheel to keep going once you let go. You can walk away from a Moka pot on an alcohol burner and it'll keep going.

Are you guys really still arguing about electricity

>>9767842
retard OP = retard thread
can't be helped

>>9760680
I never thought of making George & Dax reaction images

>>9757840
hand grinders are a meme, my coffee tastes mostly the same and isn't worth the 5 minutes of grinding to make a single cup.
I can't grinder faster than my kettle takes to boil.

>>9768748
Your beans are not fresh. If they were, you would notice

>>9769779
If he's using a cheapass hand grinder they're worse than preground. Aergrind is the absolute cheapest one worth using.

>>9769802
Well, if he has a real bad grind, it would likely taste under-extracted (sour) or over-extracted (bitter). If it's stale, the coffee will just be bland, which is what I'm assuming he means when he said it tastes the same as pre-ground

>>9769815
He's probably brewing it like crap too so it's over and under extracted either way.

>>9766934
I have never seen a pourover in any coffee shop where I live.

>>9765948
its not like he's drinking it strait you fadora wearing damn dirty hipster

>>Burgertards making good coffee

Topkek

>>9757840
what if I been using a 15 dollar coffee machine for the last forever

>>9762749
if you watch amazon you can get a conical burr bodum for under $70 USD. I got mine for $63

>>9757970
blame our shitty 110V power. I do have an electric kettle, though. It's just not super fast.

>tfw my coffeemaker which makes 4 cups of coffee fills my large mug
god damn i consume so much coffee daily.

I have a keurig, can anyone recommend some decent and cheap K cups?

>>9758279
please go away fede

>>9770327
You're gonna pay at least 50 cents per k-cup, no matter what.
That works out to about $15 a pound, this is the upper limit of whole bean pricing and you're buying stale preground dust in a plastic cup.
There's no point in using a refillable k-cup, you can't control the extraction and it beats the point of buying whole bean to begin with.

Just get a pourover.

>>9770438
>$15/lb
>upper limit
More like bare minimum for decent coffee.

>>9770457
You have an expensive hobby, anon.

>>9770468
Not really. Compare the price per drink to something like wine and it's pretty cheap.

>>9770470
there's no difference between inexpensive wine and the good stuff

>>9770476
To a point, but there are a lot of really astringent and horrid cheap (and expensive) wines. There's occasionally good stuff under $5 even, but I usually have to spend about $20 to get something halfway ok at most places, which puts it well over coffee per drink. Hell, even $5 a bottle might.

>>9770487
340g (12oz) bag for $18 brewed at 1:16 is $.003/ml. Even $22/12oz is $.004

750ml of wine for $5 is $.007/ml

So even with cheapass wine, good coffee is twice as cheap.

>>9770518
Also, one good cup of coffee a day is cheaper than 4 bottles of wine a day

>>9770551
RIP Jim Lahey

>>9761145
I think I know what you mean, I've been living off this cheap can of coffee that smells like an astray when I open it and tastes like dirt

>>9770551
One good cup of coffee is cheaper than one okish *glass* of wine.

>>9770468
>>9770470

Drinking a cup of coffee a day, it takes me a little over two weeks to get through a pound of coffee beans.

A few weeks ago, i found a hario skerton at the swapmeet for $2, it was missing the handle, but it was totally clean and unused.

I've been turning the crank with an adjustable wrench and a screwdriver inserted into the hole to work as the rotating crank handle, it works really well.

>>9770740
I was making a joke about replacing my alcoholism with coffee autism

My daily coffee routine consists of heating up some water on a kettle then grinding some beans by hand and then doing a pour over. Here is my dirty ass shit that never gets cleaned as good as it should. Beans are always Peet's, but I switch the roast around quite a bit.

>>9771027
Did melitta filters get smaller or something?
i have the old ceramic cone design and it takes #2 filters, the paper filter fits inside snugly.

>>9771027
Good starter setup

I'm using a moka pot but it takes forever for it to finish brewing, instead of a steady flow it spits out coffee slowly. What am I doing wrong?

>>9771061
I usually get the #2 filters in white when I can, but they are hard to find irl and sometimes I just need more filters and pick up whatever I can get when I'm out grocery shopping.

Redpill me on instant coffee. I prefer the taste but should I start drinking real coffee?

>>9771091
When I used my moka pot more I would keep it open till I started to see it come out slowly, then I would tip the top back on so that when it's done brewing the coffee wouldn't go flying everywhere, and I could hear it was done. I think it's important to turn the heat off when the coffee has all made it to the top. As far as speed, I always thought that the slower it was done was better, but now that I think about it, it is pressurized so maybe that isn't the best option. I always liked the taste either way, just make sure to turn off the head when the bottom chamber is empty.

>>9757840
giving a shit how other people enjoy coffee..
you stink, boo

>>9771138
Hmm, gonna keep experimenting then, thanks.

What's a grinder that's actually worth the money? Getting real tired of sifting my beans to get consistency

posting poorfag setup

>>9771246
I like that grinder, I use it on the most coarse setting for French press and it comes out really good with very minimal "mud" at the bottom of the cup.
I just use my shitty hand me down electric grinder for pourover because I can't be bothered to grind the beans fine enough for it by hand.

Should I put cayenne in my coffee?

>>9771425
Yea, it's good

>>9757860
hahaha, metalac jbt

>>9769815
>>9769802
>>9769779
I just got a handcrank grinder and noticed a significant improvement in flavor using some costco beans, how does grinding impact flavor? pls help

>>9772077
Particle size affects extraction, grinding to a smaller particle size increases the total surface area of the coffee when in contact with water.
If it's too fine, you might extract too much of the bitter shit.
Many people hate blade grinders because they just chop up beans, leaving boulders and silt at the same time.
There's ways to lessen the effects, eg. pulsing the grind button, but unless you're making espresso, burr grinding is a massive fucking placebo.

>>9772077

>>9772382
>big
>hefty
>plump
>luscious
>bulky
>fragile
>empty
???

>>9770908
What is your brew method/ grind setting?
Have you modded it to help stabilize the burrs?

>>9773311
I have mine set to 4, any less and grounds become fine mud that chokes the filter.
Maybe this doesn't happen on pourovers with huge holes, idk.
My setup is here >>9771246

I recently upgraded from a Breville espresso grinder to a Vario. Immediate improvement in the clarity of the flavours in my shot. Like putting on a pair of glasses after living with blurred vision all this time.

>>9757840

>>9773354
What espresso machine are you using?

recommend me a reliable small espresso machine. I had a Sunbeam Cafe Crema that just went to shit 1 month after warranty.

>>9757860
How do I make good Turkish coffee?

>>9771246
for me, it's the cleverdrip and hario mini

I really had my hopes up thinking I'd learn or see a good discussion in here...

>>9760941
> most barbaric hamfisted way to
what else can you expect out of turks

I like the Italian stovetop things. I went on a trip through Italy using AirBnB the whole time and every home I stayed in had one of them. Not that I didn't go out for coffee the whole time, because of course when in Italy one needs to have a macchiato or something similar(I love cappucinos personally) but on the off day it was a useful thing. Italy I must say they have a fine quisine and a nice free cup of coffee after an expensive dinner was a great bonus. I think it would be worth the $30 investment for some good espresso

>>9774728
When this faggot op is involved, the thread is fucked

>>9774776
Why would you even hit submit on this post? It's just incoherent rambling about your fagcation sabbatical to get your ass rammed by as many Italian paisanals as possible. Kill yourself my man

>>9774285
CC1 seems to be the way to go nowadays if you are in the sub $1000 price range.

>>9773982
Silvia v3 with a 20g VST basket. No PID (yet) but I've got temperature surfing down to a T.

>>9774290
Find a good Turkish plumber to install the pipes. I tried an American and he fucked it all up, so I had to pay again for a Turk to come out and fix it.

Do you guys care about beans at all? Or are you just copping supermarket stuff?

>>9774950
Yes. Fresh roasted is a requirement. Beans at the grocery store are stale 99% of the time

>>9757911
You do realise some people can't afford to live on a building that has gas so have to have an electric cooker most high rises or blocks don't have gas
(idk if that's the case everywhere but it's definitely true in Europe)

>>9775003
maybe you are thinking of poor ex-sovietic republics because in europoorest spain everyone and his cousin has gas installation

>>9757840
Why is she deliberately spilling that milk everywhere?

>>9758246
We get it, you like having sex with guys.

>>9774290
I genuinely know what she's going through.

>>9775094
She opened the cafe latte cup, but it was just ice
Suddenly, coffee poured from the sky to fill the cup
Too, there's no milk in the latte

I want to get a new french press - in what price range should I search? Any recommendations or specific things to look out for?

>>9775334
they're all the same
get one in glass so you don't grow bitch tits

Espresso shot

>>9775363
Hardly any plastic things have BPA in them now, unless you're getting the cheapest possible shit from China.

>>9775508
All plastic is dangerous. Probably as much so as leaded gasoline was. Saudis pay to surpress the studies because they know their country is fucked if plastic goes with electric cars already making progress against gasoline.

Listen: Don't fucking bother talking to me unless I've had my coffee. If it's 6 AM and you start blabbing about your dumb life I couldn't give less of a shit because I haven't had a sip of joe in me yet. Fuck off, and fuck you.

>tfw I got fired from my dream barista job
>tfw it was probably my fault
At least I still have my hario pour over funnel.
They were gonna fire me when they figured out I was a tranny anyways

>>9775449
How do I get into drinking espresso? I normally add more water to make an americano.

>>9775832
You know how your mental illness bleeds over into every aspect of your life?
You're neurotic as shit and probably a downer to be around.

>>9775941
Extremely expensive equipment and autistic attention to detail. Not worth making at home otherwise.

Just go to a good third wave shop and get it. But note a lot of shops are pretty shit at espresso, have to find a rare good one.

>>9775832
>fire you for being trans
Uhhhh, you realize barista is like a stereotypically over the top liberal job, right?

REAL BLACK COFFEE NIGGAZ REPORT IN
WHO UP???

>>9771091
too much coffee grinds or you pressed the coffee

>>9775986
My boss used to be a youth pastor. He played worship music in the morning before opening. He cut advertising in the local high school newspaper because they did an article on trans people

>>9775962
Eat my coffee flavored asshole.

Kek. Got an ebin meme sticker with my latest batch

>>9775449
stop being a fag with your weaboo tea cups. espresso shots belong in a demitasse, a shot glass, or a whiskey tumbler. nothing else.

>>9776388
Bitch please. Weeaboos would hate me for defiling their cups. They just happen to be great for espresso, way better than any demi.

>>9776448
>>9776388
Also Italians are horrible at coffee, contributed almost nothing of value besides very general ideas (I'll grant that they invented espresso, but they're shit at it), and we shouldn't listen to their traditions for it.

I'll list some of Italy's "contributions" that make coffee worse to this day.

Blends.

Darker roasting, should have left Nordics in charge of roast level.

Shit tier grinders like Mazzer with piss poor alignment, burr design, and retention. Even fucking Spain has better grinders.

The hopper and the doser.

The thermal mess that is e61 (I will admit they made some proper groupheads too, LM Linea, Strada, etc).

The heat exchanger.

Poor fitting tampers.

Imprecise baskets.

Focus on speed to the point taking the time to distribute is unthinkable to most shops today.

Lack of weighing input/output.

Using milk enough to justify a steam wand. Seriously, steam capability is the stupidest fucking thing for an espresso machine. You need a whole second boiler and all the expense that brings just to make fancy hot chocolate.

Adding milk to drinks at all.

Home machines with no PID. Fuck Gaggia for being willing to even sell people that useless garbage.

The Americano (yes, American GIs are responsible for asking for it, but they should have refused to taint their drink).

Cups made to hold heat on something that gets more flavorful as it cools.

The single shot.

Spouted portafilters. Should have been bottomless from day 1.

Caring about crema volume.

Ridiculous shot ratios.

>>9776541
Don't they all dump a bunch of sugar in their espresso, anyways?

>>9776553
Didn't include that because anybody can carry a sugar packet with them, and they're FAR from the worst offenders for sugary drinks. I aint gonna pretend Starbucks "enough sugar for dessert for four people for a week" level drinks are inspired by a teaspoon of sugar in a shot.

>>9776565
>I aint gonna pretend Starbucks "enough sugar for dessert for four people for a week" level drinks are inspired by a teaspoon of sugar in a shot
Well, a teaspoon of sugar (4g) added to a 1oz shot of espresso would make it 12.5% sugar. There are 66 grams of sugar in a Grande Caramel Frappacino (16oz), which would make it 14.5% sugar.

Not too different, but I get what you're saying.

>>9776590
Total quantity matters more here than %. You shouldn't be consuming that much sugar, outside things like fruits (not juices) where it's consumed alongside the fiber, in a week. Much less one drink.

>>9776541
There is nothing wrong with the Americano.

>>9776646
The Americano is a trash drink. Drink espresso or brewed coffee.

>>9776457
demitasse cups are french. and using shot glasses and gibralter/cortado glass began on the west coast. fucking weab.

>>9776703
>>9776646
Also a Perger style coffeeshot is acceptable too. But water should NEVER be added post brewing.

I wouldn't pay full price for this but I got it for $30 at a thrift store, makes really good pourover coffee, it's essentially just a kettle with a built in water filter, apparently it can make iced coffee too, somehow

>>9776245
>eat my coffee flavored asshole

Fake story or not, I'm glad you got fired.
If you're not passable, nobody likes you, you neurotic piece of shit.

not if you drink Coffee Instant, Type 1

>>9776939
Steve is so handsome nohomo

>>9776943
ikr

>heated coldbrew
>milk
>peppermint kahlua
>cinnamon
The milk may have been a mistake, I should have doubled the kahlua and added nutmeg with the cinnamon. I wanted alcoholic christmas coffee.
Maybe cream would help?

>>9776832
explain to me how this isn't an overengineered drip coffee maker?

Is it because it uses a cone instead of a basket?

What's a good ratio for making iced coffee directly over ice cubes?

Do I simply use less water and fill the cup with ice cubes instead?

who else /kuerig/ master race?

>>9776388
Not a huge fan of demi cups, but here, just for you.

super automated coffee makers such as these
yay or nay?
I just want my coffee making to be as hassle free as possible

>>9763825
Yes but this truly makes God tier coffee every time

>>9775449
>>9778120
What are you brewing these with, m8

Post your favorite mug

>>9757911
Fucking american.

>>9758246
Half of those aren't even tea, you knob. Tisanes aren't tea.

>>9778201
subpar coffee, and despite appearances extremely high maintenance. (do you seriously think the mess just disappear into the void, it's just akin to stuffing all the crap you have lying around in your room into a closet). plus hard to repair etc.

>>9778120
tasty looking shot you got there (no homo)

>>9779720
lel this
The instant mindset is a mental illness
These are made for office environments where some shithead has to maintain them daily

The majority of their value is likely in some enterprise warranty where they can ship it off after it shits itself from constant use

>>9770031
The starbucks in my local grocery store does pourovers for their "blond" roast because they never fucking bother to make any when the pike place roast is more popular.

Every other coffee shop and cafe near me also do pourovers because I live near Seattle. I almost never go to cafes though because I brew my own coffee.

is there a big difference between instant coffee and real coffee? asking for a FRIEND

>>9780177
Yes

>>9780218
what is the difference

>>9780234
Instant tastes like shit and real coffee doesn't.

>>9776541
I agree with most, but please tell me the negatives of a hopper in a coffee shop.

>>9758246
Did you have sex with a guy?

Honestly, if you use anything but a drip machine there’s high chance you’re at least bi-curious.

>>9780440
>durr I'm so manly I only consume the most plebby things possible
That's nice, Jimbob.

>>9780416
The only positive is speed, which should be irrelevant. Meanwhile beans get hot from proximity to the motor and because minimal attention is paid to retentien, since it'll be hoppered. So cafes are stuck to one coffee per grinder even if they take the hopper off. With a proper single doser, they could offer a much wider selection of origins.

>>9779263

What are the good luxury coffee bean brands going?

Just started grinding and french pressing coffee beans for the first time and enjoying it. Coming up to christmas I can ask people to get me packs of quality beans as they're asking for present ideas and there's nothing much I want. But I have no idea what's a sure bet or what to avoid. I'd like to try dark and rich profiles.

I know finding a roastery is ideal but for the moment something gift-practical is what I'm looking for, in supermarkets, amazon or popular store chains.

>>9777944
hell yeah. i use a refillable metal cup for grinds tho.

>>9780730
supermarket coffee is trash. and if you're willing to buy something off amazon you may as well order it from a well known small "local" roaster (even one from out of state if you live in a flyover). if you are canadian then check out Pilot Coffee Roasters out of toronto

>>9780730
Where do you live? You may be able to get good local beans ordered online there. There's roasters near me that have online ordering.

>>9763849
How mentally ill do you have to be to take picture after fucking up like that. What's funny? Who's interested in that photo?

I'm in the UK

>>9781007
good thing you have all the benefits of the EU to order good coffee from neighboring countries duty free

What are the disadvantages to a French press method?

>>9781000
He wanted to feel better by getting fake sympathy upvotes from r/coffee.

This picture sums up millennials quite well.
Being so starved for attention that they would rather take a picture and share it online for the attention than quickly scramble to salvage their dinner.

>>9781029
the metal filter isn't ultra fine, you'll get silt at the bottom of your cup if your grind particles aren't uniform and coarse.

Usually, it's not a big deal, just don't take the last sip.

>>9781366
>YOUVE GOT ABOUT 45 MINUTES
>THERE WAS A LOT OF CHEESE IN THAT LASAGNA

Hey coffriends!
I got about a kg of fresh roasted single origin beans. I'm broke and cant afford a pro grinder, but I do have a stick blender. Is it a bad Idea to grind them beans with it? I'd use my good ol' coffeepot to prepare the coffee afterwards.

>>9781475
you'd be wasting your beans

>>9781480
Yeah I mean an adjustable grinder would be the best. But they'll also go to waste if I dont prepare them, so... Well what do you suggest? I've got about 20 bucks that I can spare right now. Also, location: Hungary.

>>9781480
ok now after lurking for about 10 mins I see viable alternatives.... I may get a manual grinder

new thread! >>9781681

ayy niggas

I would like to report that I brew delicious espresso at home using a $30 espresso machine. I skimp on the grounds and I use extra water and I get a yuge cup of delicious full bodied goodness! No plastic waste! It's all very efficient!

Enjoy your french presses!