/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I did that. Now I'm a soyboy. Learn from my mistake, friends.

>>9749298
/pol/-tard lemming #1938282929

It's absolutely delicious to see how many people get triggered by the phrase "soy boy".

>>9749291
I did it for a week about a year ago with the powder stuff

the only weird thing was the social stuff, I wasn't going out to dinner with people or having lunch
meals lasted around 5-10 minutes max with about 15 minutes of prep(mixing/dividing) in the morning

I didn't have any gastrointestinal effects and didn't feel weird or anything physical

I'll drink one or two of those bottles every few weeks instead of skipping breakfast now, but I wouldn't consider switching completely over any time soon

>>9749291
bro, that's how lil peep died

>>9749353
The fact that this degenerate piece of fucking garbage is dead makes me almost as erect as soyboy-posting and watching the assmad flood in.

>>9749363
I'm so fucking tired of hearing about him I'm starting to wish he hadn't died.

I drink 5 a day. Life is pretty good

I tried Soylent, but I honestly felt no different than I did just eating whatever the hell I wanted regardless of how shitty.

Currently on a pseudo-pescatarian diet. I eat meats when I don't really have a choice, but when I am able to cook for myself I maintain it.

>>9749315
follow up

I guess the implication is this makes you gay or more feminine?
I still have sex with women, so, either I haven't crossed the homosexual threshold or it doesn't exist

I think if something made you more attracted to men, or if something granted you greater feminine features/attitude; wouldn't it be great to give this to women?

humanity figured out lots of drugs pretty quickly, why would this latent effect only be noticed now?

>>9749391
To be fair, aphrodisiacs already exist.

>>9749391
>I still have sex with women
We both know that's not true.

>>9749314
>It's absolutely delicious to see how many people get triggered by the phrase "soy boy".
>literally one person replied to it
Makes me think

>>9749291

>drink soylent
>piss out your anus
>enjoy?

>>9749404
Two, now.

>>9749391
the soyboy meme has zero basis in reality
it's stupid broscience and it doesn't even really apply to soylent because the only soy in it is soy lecithin as an emulsifier, it's 95% oats, whey protein, and maltodextrin.

>>9749315
I never understood the hype for soylent premade shakes shit like pic related has been around forever

Why the bloody hell would anyone want to drink meal replacement shakes out of their own volition?
Those things are disgusting after a while.

>>9749417
this.
it's like drinking infant formula for adults

>>9749291
drank it for ~75% of my meals for about a month and a half, i get blood tested every 2 weeks

had no significant effect on anything, but anyone who would completely replace food with it is blatantly ignoring all labels and warnings and precautions

the only real negative effect was
>>9749405

the pre-made bottled ones are pretty good if you don't mind somewhat bitter cake batter

>>9749410
It was made up by people desperate to fix their erectile dysfunction, receding hairlines, difficulty maintaining a fit body, low energy, and other signs of aging or poor genetics. They picked something that was present in most of their foods, because they watched an episode of The Dr's where they said food affected your body and they identified soy as the contributing factor for their waning masculinity.

It really all just comes down to a desperate grab for their fading youth.

>>9749417
there are two types of people who don't exercise or move: the fatties who eat everything in sight (who wouldn't want a meal replacement), and the spooky skeletons who never get hungry, at whom meal replacements are targeted. I used to be in the latter category but then I stopped spending all day in bed or in my chair at work and guess what, my appetite appeared for the first time since I was 14.

>>9749423
>t. soyboi

>>9749412
Marketing. They made Soylent seem like a cool thing for young trendy people. On the other hand if they are even aware of them they think Boost and Ensure and such are for old people who can't eat real food any more.

isn't this shit banned in canada now for not meeting sufficient requirements to be called a "meal replacement"?

>>9749436
At least I still have a fully functional body, grandpa.

>>9749363
I had literally never heard of this guy until he died

>>9749451
only because it's 400cal, and 3 doesn't add up to a full days worth of meals
there was also some shit with some weird meal bars they were marketing

>>9749417
have you ever got up late and needed to get to work immediately?
without a prepared breakfast you are left with nothing until lunch

for me, having some prepared breakfasts that don't go bad and are nutritionally complete is a better option than a poptart or 'energy bar'

it very well could be that you don't live a life that requires this
I bet many people don't, but consider those that do

>>9749493
I lived a life that required this as medication.
Fuck you you dumb sod for saying that it's a "Last resort" and "you don't have time". You are simply shitty at managing your time.

>>9749500
>You are simply shitty at managing your time
I am not arguing this
these drinks are simply an easy answer to the question of "what the fuck do I shove in my mouth this morning" that doesn't critically sacrifice health like previous solutions have (frozen breakfast shit or poptarts)

do you have a different solution?

>>9749475
it's literally advertised as 20% of your daily nutrition. Is leafland so dumb that they don't know you're supposed to get 100% of your daily nutrition?

>>9749353

>>9749519
it's advertised as a meal replacement, and you are supposed to get 3 square meals a day

Figure it out. Just a tiny bit of soy supresses testosterone levels so significantly that it'll completely ruin a doctor's test for low testosterone.
Then imagine what's happening if you're ingesting it all the time, every day. You think it won't have an impact? You are what you eat.

Now /pol/ likes to think that this infiltration of soy into every part of our food is some conspiracy to weaken and control the general populace. The actual truth is far worse and more insidious. Businesses are looking to make profit- selling soy product is profitable, and they don't give a fuck about you. These businesses would dilute down the water they were selling with poison if it made them more money and there wasn't a law against it. If their actions create entire generations of low sperm count, low sex drive, effeminate men- they say, who cares? It's not their problem, they just sold something, YOU bought it, YOU consumed it.

>>9749493
I'd rather get a meal replacement bar. They have good amounts of protein and fiber so actually feel full for more than 5 Minutes.

>>9749539
>Just a tiny bit of soy supresses testosterone levels so significantly
humanity has cultivated soy beans for consumption for thousands of years
why is it now an issue?

>>9749556
having had both, they are pretty similar in feeling of fullness

>>9749562
I never feel full on meal replacement shakes but if you can that's good for you.

>>9749558
Look at what Asian men look like compared to whiteys or niggers.

>>9749558
>humanity has cultivated soy beans for consumption for thousands of years

we literally haven't. soy became dominate in the west only after WWII as animal feed, and only after the spread of packaged meals did they find a way to chemically extract protiens from it and process it into food

>>9749579
europe adopted the soybean for consumption before 1900

henry ford (nazi) promoted the soybean and developed several several commercial food options for it

>>9749291
>Paying for overpriced soy protein

You could literally buy 5kg of whey protein and a bunch of vitamins and minerals to last you about 3 months for 50 eurodollars

>>9749599
even if you were to prove that soy was introduced into europe before 1900, you're now dealing with the following issues

(a) Development of soybean consumption beginning in the 1900's constitutes a history of "thousands of years"
(b) introduction of soy to the west is the same thing as "dominate in the west"
(c) that Henry Ford developing commercial food options for it isn't in fact exactly in the timeline of post-WWII adoption
(d) Soy consumption still destroys testosterone levels

>>9749625
>(c) that Henry Ford developing commercial food options for it isn't in fact exactly in the timeline of post-WWII adoption
he started experiments with soy in 1920

>>9749539
>you thuoght there was some secret conspiracy
>the truth is actually far more crafty
>there's no conspiracy at all, it's actually just exactly what you expected
I mean, it probably /is/ just that companies don't care, but how is that "far more insidious"?

>>9749291
>"Soy gives me tits because some anonbros on /fit/ told me."

>"Climate change? Obviously Neil Degrasse Tyson and the other thousands of scientists are just plain wrong!"

The doctor is right. The onus on society isn't to convince a bunch of adults one thing or another. It's to reform the educational system so when kids enter it and pop out the other side as adults they don't become wonderful people like these.

>>9749412
Personally I think Ensure tastes way worse. You get sick of the flavor eventually, Boost too. The neutrality of soylent is a big winner for me

>>9749672
I'll start trusting science as soon as that fucker admits that Kubrick faked the round earth

>>9749672
Who are you trying to argue against? You can go back to lebbit if you need to beat up strawmen

>>9749672
>black science man

>>9749518
Fruits and a big lunch, honestly. Apples are probably the go-to option for that.

>>9749539
Fairly sure beer has far more phytoestrogen than most things that do with soy, and I have yet to see you lot go on a crusade against that. It's only if you were consuming purified soy at borderline industrial rates that it's gonna change you in the way you think it is, effectively a mini-HRT. For crying out loud, if we ate cow meat we'd probably get more estrogen than from consuming soy related products.

>>9749672
>we need to brainwash the children before they have the time to form independent opinions, soon we'll have them reporting their parents for hate crimes, it'll be great.
Get up against the wall authoritarian scum.

>>9749518
Toast with eggs on top. Toast with aufschnitt etc.

>>9749314
I'm not really upset by it but I think the whole concept is dumb. It is sort of like Harambe where it was mildly funny the first time and then not at all.

>>9750024
>Fairly sure beer has far more phytoestrogen than most things that do with soy

and while you're "fairly sure" of yourself, you're scientifically wrong. There are many foods with varying levels of phytoestrogens and other things that effect hormone levels, Soy stands magnitudes apart from all of them.

>>9750046
Last I checked, hops outpaced soy by a fair bit and there's not many hopsless beers.

>>9750065
There is less than 1 gram of hops per gallon of beer unless you're drinking some meme IPA

>>9750065
you didn't check very well last time you checked. 1 gram of hops has about 1/10th of the phytoestrogens that 1 gram of soybeans has.

>>9749539
Okay, fully transitioned male to female here.

Back when I was starting out and couldn't get estrogen from anywhere, I heard that soy was a good source of phytoestrogens. Research ensued to figure out how much soy I would need to equal a standard two milligram oral dose of estradiol. Turns out that firm tofu has the highest levels of phytoestrogens (soy protein isolate powder and lecithin has almost none) and that I would need to consume twelve kilogrammes of tofu per day.

>>9750143
I know people who eat that much no problem.

>>9749493
I just pick up some fresh baked goods at any random bakery on my way to work and eat while I walk.

>>9749314
Is it worth it to go around acting like a retard just to see how sorry people feel for you?

>>9749539
Daily reminder SERMs/phytoestrogens boost testosterone and you are willingly crippling yourself because of memes /pol/ and Reddit fed you like a spoilt pig.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5010627/

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/9783527684403.ch13/summary

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2587438/

>>9750193
t. Soyboy

>>9750195
/pol/ boogeyman or /agribusiness/ boogeyman. which one is real? You decide. But it's probably the one that makes money.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4270274/
>the intake of phytoestrogens was reported to impact fertility, sexual development and behavior. Feminizing effects in humans

>>9749558
hairless and jawless Asian manlet detected

>>9750042
It is dumb, how many people do you know who eat soy on a regular basis? I know literally 0, and out of the tons of people at my college I've only seen like two order tofu and they were girls. A meme should relate to reality somehow or else it's just autistic blathering.

>>9749291
i only know one guy and he later transitioned, see >>9749345

>>9749291
I drink it all the time

>>9750149
>26lbs of tofu per day
>remotely possible
>implying anyone even eats or drinks enough of any soy product to even come close to a quarter that per day

>>9750240
>how many people do you know who eat soy on a regular basis
Soybean oil and soy lecithin, dude.
It's in goddamn near everything you eat unless you're a raw foodie or a paleo fag or something.

>>9750253
Neither of those have any form of impact on the human body. That's 0.0000001% the strength of an estrogen tablet.

>>9750247
and yet the values being compared is what it takes to "fully transition genders". Even a portion of that will have an impact.

>>9750265
Yes, but to fully transition and maintain that transition, you'd need to constantly consume 26lbs daily without fail. The average consumer of tofu tends to have maybe a pound or two at most. The impact from that is negligible unless you have some weird condition.

>>9750260
>Neither of those have any form of impact on the human body. That's 0.0000001% the strength of an estrogen tablet.

That's not true, again. That's 100% made up numbers.

>>9749412
I always thought ensure was for old people

>>9750278
NOT negligible, in fact the science specifically reports that the feminization effects may be subtle, but stastically apparent.

>>9750281
It is ideal for the elderly because of the usual shitty diet they maintain. My grandmother ate candy and diet coke unless someone kept an eye on what she ate. Ensure is a good supplement for that.

Otherwise, it is a decent meal replacement.

>>9750288
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20378106

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/?term=soy
Get to reading.

>>9750143

Daily reminder you still have male chromosomes and will literally never be a biological woman ever in your life.

>>9750307
This fact is what makes the existence of "feminine males" much more disgusting

Threadly reminder that the soyboy meme is pushed by cock craving faggots who blame their urges on soy

>>9750323

t. soyboy

>>9750302
same to you, fag
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3644519/

>>9750313
>>9750307
I care not a whit. My life is much improved now.

By the way, I'll be taken to dinner at the Nobu in Berkeley tonight by a very tall, extremely handsome fellow I met at an engineering conference a month ago. The only reason I am still on here is that I am sitting in a salon chair waiting for my stylist.

>>9750407
>I care not a whit.
he declares, as he justifies himself to others

>>9749518
I usually just take the leftovers from the last day and toss them inbetween two slices of bread.

>>9750442
This desu. I wonder how the poor guy is going to react to being accosted by a freak of nature.

>>9749291
It's a known fact that posting in /pol/ makes you into a certified soy boy, and gives you mantits.

>>9750500
There's already been accosting, so to speak. He digs it.

>>9749291
I don't drink Soylent, but I've been drinking Huel, an alternative to Soylent, for the past month.

I love the convenience of it and feel great. I generally swap out my breakfast and lunch with Monday - Friday, swap breakfast with it on the weekends, and only use it for all meals on work days where I know I'll be very very time crunched.

Also, no soy in the ingredients :^)

The chai one is gross

>>9750407
you're still disgusting and still creep people out. I've never seen a passing tranny in my life.

Someone post that image where a streamer only drank soylent for a year and became a tranny.

I'm agnostic on whether the effect of phytoestrogens on humans is positive or negative. I think that before you start believing whatever papers support your side of the evidence, you should first realize that (1) most journals will accept total crap, (2) many papers are bullshit, and (3) the "explanations" that papers give are often more fantasy than fact. That goes for "both sides" of this argument.

That being said, meat is verifiably worse for you than plants and soy as far as levels of advanced glycation end products are concerned.

>>9750407
You are lying. I live in Berkeley and there is no Nobu here. The closest is in Palo Alto, over an hour away.

>>9750723
I know a faggot that only ate once a day. After school he'd buy fresh baked bread and boil ramen. He ended up being an ugly scarecrow tranny. I never saw him crossdress he just said to call him a girl's name from now on. Carbs are fucking evil.

>>9750752
Soy is used heavily in Ramen noodles numbnuts

>>9749291
Yeah a twitch streamer. He has a soylent sponsorship and takes care of his girlfriends kids, no joke. Legit soyboy.

>>9750696
do you think the taste could benefit from ground up onion?

>>9749423
No it wasn't, it was by people who work all day and need nutrition but don't necessarily want to eat a real meal

>>9750771
it's amazing that it's in everything that /pol/ hears anyone that fits their symptoms eats

Even military rations would rather have some ramen and cheese with crackers and some meaty meal in a bag to be heated. A bottle of stuff makes sense tactically but there is more to life and you will be sick to death of eating the same rushed meals after a month even with the "variety" of rations. These might even weigh more? But perhaps less water carriage.

Nothing wrong with carrying some dietary supplement powder for emergency I guess

I just got out of prison for the first time in 15 years. What happened? Why is everyone not okay?

>>9751028
he's talking about the fucking soyboy meme you idiot

>>9749314

Are you Jewish perhaps

>>9749291
Yeah, I know some CS student who goes weeks just drinking that stuff. He has boxes and boxes of that shit at his house.

He's a genius though, already has papers published.

>>9749291
I think they said like they felt like a whole new person... in fact, like a few new people.

>>9752633

Soylent confirmed the drink of choice for autistic "intellectuals"?

>>9749353
Who is that?

>>9749423
No, it’s because soy has plant estrogens. If you eat it sometimes as a man then whatever but the thought is that if you are eating a lot of it (especially considering soy is literally now in freaking everything) it could be affecting you in the same way as if a man started taking synthetic estrogens for the purpose of transitioning or something.

>>9749291
Soyboy thread? Soyboy thread

>>9752653
a worthless cunt who was grandson to a communist professor who put out garbage """""music""""" on YouTube i.e. Gucci Gang

>>9749298
>>9749314
"Soyboy" is the gayest insult I've ever heard. It sounds like something a fruitcake would say in a valley girl accent. "Like, oh mai gawd, you're SUCH a soyboy, teehee." That's what it reads like. At least "cuck" had the hard 'k' sound at the end so it was a dominant sounding insult. This new shit is pathetic, and you're a faggot for pushing it.

>>9752704
t. soyboy

>>9749518
I used to work with a girl who had this huge purse with a thermal type component at the bottom. She had all these little plastic Tupperware containers that fit in the pockets under her purse. She would come to work in the morning and throw a little Tupperware in the microwave. I asked her one day if she cooked it in the morning or what. She said she did pretty much all her cooking on Sunday and then packed it up for herself for the week. I thought it was brilliant. I don’t do it, but i often don’t eat breakfast at all and my boyfriend cooks for us so I don’t need to pre-cook dinners. Obviously her huge ass purse was expensive and, well, a purse... but it wouldn’t hurt to get a little lunch bag and do something similar. Then you could have eggs and bacon or veggies and maybe an instant oatmeal pack for a hearty breakfast without extra time in the morning.

>>9749523
>trying to justify and feel better about your illegal drug habit with other people’s shortcomings

>>9749565
I want to know who actually “feels full” after a meal replacement anything.

>Would you like a piece of chicken, sir?
>”Oh, no, no thanks, you see, I just had this SLIM-FAST and boy, that just filled me right up you see?”

>>9752704
This desu. I think numale is funnier though.

>>9752704
assblasted soygoy spotted

>>9749291
I know a LessWrong rationalist who started drinking it. Lately, he's taken a strange fascination with the transsexual programmers in his peer group.

>>9749298
does soylent contain soy? I thought it was originally rice protein and switched to whey?

>>9752736
I feel full after half a bottle desu

>>9752751
soy lecithin as an emulsifier
95% of it is oat flour, whey protein, and maltodextrin

>>9749672
Are you denying a potential effect of plant estrogens on males?
http://news.berkeley.edu/2012/11/19/phytoestrogens-may-affect-behavior/
https://www.bodylogicmd.com/hormones-for-men/estrogen
http://e.hormone.tulane.edu/learning/phytoestrogens.html
Yet you will accept GLOBAL WARMING as fact - simply because some lefty scientists tell you it’s true since they are getting the dollars for feeding you propaganda. The mere fact that they have stopped calling it “global warming “ and started calling it “climate change” is a bait and switch tactic similar to what they do with “evolution”.

That is, no one denies that the climate changes. But people (including climate scientists) do dispute the ultimate meaning of that change and whether or not it is man-made and anything to be concerned about.

The people who champion alarmism over global warming don’t LIVE like they believe what they say, especially when you consider how dire they claim it to be versus how lackadaisical they treat the matter in how they live their own lives.

Again, they do the same thing with “evolution” by coming up with all these evidences of so called MICRO evolution (with us really adaptive changes in an existing species over time) and then try to extrapolate that as evidence for MACRO evolution (i.e. how we supposedly came to be). There is no evidence for MACRO evolution. Pay attention to their bait and switch tactics.

>>9749672
>>9752803
Another reason not to listen to their alarmism:
http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/02/the-1970s-global-cooling-alarmism.html?m=1
Back a few decades the big alarmist push was against a global cooling.

>>9752704
>oy vey the soyim know, shut it down!

>>9752822
Didn't WikiLeaks provide evidence that global warming was essentially propaganda as well

>OP is not a shill. Oh boy that's rich.

>>9752704
stay mad, soyboy

>>9752705
>>9752744
>>9752834
>>9752918
t. niggerfaggots too cucked to be able to use real insults

>>9752965
it seems your main complaint with the term "soyboy" is that it sounds retarded. It's supposed to. That's part of the joke. If you'd been here more than 3 days, you'd realize that "stupid terms that sound funny that are used seriously" is a common theme here.
and I seriously hope you don't think "niggerfaggot" sounds any less ridiculous than "soyboy"

>>9752965
Hey, anon?
You're a soyboy.

>>9752704
t. soybuns

>>9752988
t. soybean

>>9750696
>HUEL HUEL
>GIBE SOYLENT
>I REPORT U

I tried it for a little bit when I had to be on a liquid diet for medical purposes and it was no fucking better than the other stuff I was drinking like ensure and boost

>>9752794
Interesting its overpriced ground oats and whey

>>9752794
i thought a lot of the protein was from algae

>>9752751
>>9752794
outdated info, 2.0 uses soy protein. i'm an idiot

>>9749291
Cosmo drank Soylent and it lead to him becoming a tranny

>>9753315
Correlation does not equal causation, retard

>>9753320
How do you prove causation then?
How would you demonstrate the claim: Soylent causes people to become trannies?

>>9753320
>t.soylent jew

>>9749291
>moobs enhancer

>>9752704
Keep being mad, soyim

>>9749291
I know one who is a hungry smelly manlet. He was like that before eating though.

>>9752704
>sperging out on how an insult word makes him 'feel' gay
>others are faggots because of it
So much faggotry in one post

>>9749423
>Receding hairline
>Waning masculinity

>>9752676
Asians eat a lot of Soy and they don't really have issues. Fuckton of other countries eat shit that have more "plant estrogen" then Soy and they are fine.

>>9754483
fish-bodies Asian manlet detected

>>9754483
>Five foot tall effeminate men eat soy therefore it's great

Found the ladyboy entusiast

>>9754483
Coupled with the fact the samurai warrior, a heavy consumer of soy, was arguably the best mano a mano warrior in the history of man. And thirdly, the Vietcong would go far out of their way to face a limp wristed US company as opposed to a platoon of south koreans (heavy soy imbibers).

It's quite clear that the soy fear mongerers have been btfo and need to slink back under the /pol/ rock they slimed out from.

>>9749353
I'm glad he's dead

>>9749291
Real men eat soy-in solid form. Tempeh, for example, is fine.
Soylent however is just a bitchtits booster

Isn't soylent basically just a protein drink? I don't get the obsession.

>>9749412
Women have been "biohacking" before it was cool.

>>9752704
t. triggered soyboy

>>9749291
i have a strong stomach and that made me fucking sick out both ends

if you don't get sick
i suppose it's fine
tastes vaguely like blended cheerios

>>9752704
There it is

>>9752704

>>9750407
Post boypuss

>>9749291
So, what is it?

>>9749314
Because it' s true?

>>9749315
Does it contain fiber? How do you poop drinking that thing?

>>9752704

What a stupid nigger