/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>9413059
if you're an alcoholic you cant hide the smell of alcohol, period

i told myself id try and do better this semester.. well it's 8 weeks in and i'm doing worse than ever. who the fuck was i kidding? only myself i guess since ive managed to lose everyone that mattered

>>9413088
Sure you're not exaggerating? Who did you lose.

>>9413101

Not really; i open myself up to very few people, and of those select people all of them have managed to go full no contact on me over the last few years. Some of it i deserve, but mostly not.

I still have my father, but he is convinced he doesn't have much longer left, id guess a few years at most. My mum is like me, or rather i'm like my mum, she lives alone and has been an alcoholic for the past 20 years. I havent seen her in over a year because she never makes it to any planned meetups and wont let me come visit (she wont tell me her her new address). Last i heard of her she took 50 valium and drank a cask of wine, jumped off something of inadequate height and fractured her spine.

Other than that, i don't really talk to anyone except anons.

>>9413059
Vodka
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tfw wanted to spend the afternoon drinking but theres too many people in the office today to slip out.

>>9413059
like that anon said you'll never hide the smell completely. your best bet is vodka and make sure you shower before work. brush teeth thoroughly. chew gum constantly throughout the day.

>>9413151
>>9413170
So I should not try a spiced liqour like ricard or mintu? I thought if it smelled like mouthwash or gum...

>>9413185
What the fuck is ricard or mintu?

I've bartended for six years and have never heard of that shit.

Is this some Euro shit?

>>9413185
they sound like liqueurs... people will smell it from across the room

>>9413195
Ricard is a pastis, like pernod. French herbal spirit, IIRC they made them to get around the Absinthe-ban. Not as high-proof (around 40% ABV), but herbal and anise-heavy. Features in oldschool cocktails relatively frequently (Sazerac comes to mind).

>>9413195
It's like vodka-tooth paste

caught a terrible cold somewhere between thurs and friday, woke up saturday with a horrible cough and aching body. It has only gotten worse but have a bottle now so the Fever and achey bones I can surely say arent from lack of booze. ugh

>>9413059
Why don't you asshole never link the new thread in the previous one?

>>9413256
>Benefit of the doubt he was drunk.
might just be retarded though

>>9413266
It's this one asshole he does it every single time

>Lagavulin 16
>Old Speckled Hen
Keeping it classy tonight. This is what heaven tastes like

>>9413307
that is very vague, be more specific.

>>9413326
Drinking Islays when the weather is getting colder is the definition of comfy desu

>>9413479
Pissing rain here, it's really nice. Ordered a bottle of Bruichladdich off amazon which should get in tomorrow, apparently we are getting lightening on Wednesday. Nothing like a good Islay, hope you are comfy too lad

>>9413256
I have now done just that fag

>>9413510
I am desu, even though I'm on the wagon. But smoking weed in the bathtub is also pretty comfy.

>>9413059
Only a part of the booze smell comes from your mouth. The majority of it comes wafting out of your lungs, it's the alcohol that's in your bloodstream.

Given that ethanol is ethanol in the blood no matter the source, you'll be wafting no matter what you drink.

That said, vodka is still the most minimal as it is alcohol and water and nothing else. But you can still count on smelling like booze.

>>9413059
Just chew a really smelly gum like big red.

>>9413573
This is true.
It's why cops use breathalyser to get blood alcohol content : no way to cheat it.

>>9413206
If you'll allow me to get autistic: Pernod is technically an anise and not a pastis. Similar, but not the same.

>>9413059
This is going to sound like trolling, but if you are trying to drink secretly and worried you'll be caught out by your breath , time to start booty binging.
Take a tampon, soak it in vodka, stick it up your ass, go to work or wherever. Keep nice minty breath and catch a buzz.

Anyone have to drink before work and still interact with customers?

>>9413603
Yikes

>>9413603
Don't want to risk having "excessive booty-binging" as cause printed forever on my death certificate.

>>9413605
I drink during work. Beer in water bottle. Or vodka and orange juice. Many does it. More than you think

>>9413603
fuck i could jerkoff to emma stone deep throating a corn dog.

Ask your doctors for medication to help with cravings.

>>9413640
do you get buzzed or actual sloppy during the shift

>>9413603
Still enters the bloodstream, otherwise it wouldn't work. So still comes out through the lungs.

What are you guys drinking this morning?

>>9413659

EtOH pours out of your lungs and skin no matter what the alcohol. No alcohol smells any better or worse than any other. That's why a breathalyzer works.

>>9413660
Nice Takis are legit and I wish we had St Ides here in ca

>>9413659
Does the takeaway from which you ordered that, have a pic online of what they pretend it looks like?

>>9413256
We are drunks and forget a lot.
Or just sort of lose track of things we are supposed to do.

>>9413603
a) Vodka tampon burns like hell. You'd have to dilute it to 10 or 15% max, and get an enema of it. Also, it's close to impossible to insert a soaked tampon even if you regularly shove dildoes up your butt : it's too soft.
Yes, I tried.
b) As said before, it's alcohol in the blood that smells, so anything you do that gets you drunk will make your breath smell of booze (except maybe injecting it directly in your brain after a trepanation).

>>9413651
I don't feel much. I need it or I get bored

>>9413659
Early evening here, but beer and whisky. Cheers

>>9413656
He said to avoid bad breath, not beat the breathalyzer. This is a tested way to get drunk at work with zero evidence. Is this the general for real alcoholics, or is this just a place for mixologists and Scotch snobs to jack each other off? Nobody can beat the breathalyzer, it's a given .
>>9413623
Yeah Im talking about an airline bottle soaked in a kotex. Be warned, though, it will hit you a lot harder than just drinking it. Upside , it's literally the cheapest way to get drunk
>>9413642
I like watching women orally fixate too

>>9413702
Mosth of alcohol breath comes from the lungs, not the little bit of booze that may still coat the mouth.

>>9413698
What are you watching?

>>9413706
was it autism??

>>9413707
Binging game of thrones, enjoying it so far. Might watch some sons of anarchy later

>>9413702
>He said to avoid bad breath, not beat the breathalyzer.
Rinsing your mouth with water works too, in that case. Still not enough to drink at work, since humans can detect alcohol in breath like breathalysers.

The solution is to do benzo.

>>9413711
As long as you're having fun.

>>9413698
>those glasses

posh cunt innit

>>9413719
When I work I usually eat an olive after each shot and swish my mouth with water to throw off the smell. It works well enough.

The sweetness of gum hurts my teeth too much.

>>9413729
Keeps my mind off everything else, with any luck I'll remember most of it and won't need to re watch tomorrow
>>9413731
Groupon came through - £10 for 6 of each delivered

>>9413744
its nice drinking out of decent glassware, it does change things.

>>9413751
Yeah it makes a big difference. Cheap whisky or gin out of the same mug I drank coffee from was really depressing. Feels good to have nice glasses, I bloody use them often enough. I'm even hand washing them and not using the dishwasher to make it feel like I have my shit together

>>9413151
I got drunk on Vodka at work and people could literally smell it yards away.
It smells like rubbing alcohol. Not even breath mints were working.

>>9413510
>Bruichladdich
The pale blue bottle is an odd choice of colour for booze.

>>9413767
Yeah it looks weird, don't like the idea of a bottle you can't see how far you are though either. I went for the Port Charlotte one, comes in a clear bottle thankfully. Nice to have it brought to me, but I do need to go and get more beer tomorrow sadly

>>9413781
Please answer a brainlet and tell me how to order alcohol off of Amazon.

t. me.

>>9413767
typical case of design venturing so far into forced uniqueness that you end up in the domain of things that haven't been done yet for the simple reason that they're fucking ugly

>>9413758
Aww anon. That's exactly what I feel taking care with my alcohol goods. It's the only thing that's worth it.

>>9413659
Drank my whole liter of vodka last night, so now having trouble holding down beer (Founders PC Pils). Just need to hold down a few beers to shake off these tremors and hopefully muster appetite for a light meal.

>>9413790
Whether you can or cannot order booze off amazon depends on your location. In many parts of the world it's illegal to mail-order alcohol.

>>9413804
Aren't they using drones in some areas? If I can have my morning drink flown in the window and sat on my pillow every morning, my quality of life will rocket.

>>9413811
>Aren't they using drones in some areas?

AFIK, no. The technology is nowhere near mature yet. But they have done some testing and filed for patents.

>>9413790
I'm in the uk, you literally just type in what you want and buy it. If you have amazon prime it comes the next day

>>9413767
>>9413781
>>9413798
Even the transparent bottle looks like a vial of essential oil.

>>9413822
You lucky bong.

Good evening, non-addicted anon visiting.
I have a question for all of you who cannot stop - is it really impossible to break free from alcoholism? Like, you cannot hold yourself from going into store and buy booze every single day? Is the withdrawal effect strong enough to completely impair your judgement and force you to chug yet another glass?

I like to drink from time to time, but I have an iron rule not to dring alone, I'm not smoking too, that's why the whole principle of addiction is alien to me.

>>9413826
Is alcohol on amazon not a thing in other countries? Beer etc is a rip off but spirits are usually cheap

>>9413836
Correct.
In the US, for example, liquor laws are of nightmarish complexity and vary greatly state-by-state. In my state the law separates companies which wholesale and ship liquor from retail sellers of liquor. It is 100% illegal to get alcohol by mail here, unless you are a licensed restaurant or liquor store.

>>9413833
it's not what you think it is rly, a lot of ppl don't even know they have an addiction it's more of a habit (semantics). Ppl end up just drinking and then end up being 40 and being an alcoholic. It's not rly about mental strength and fortitude (even tho that has a lot to deal w/ getting off hardened habits) but more about unawareness and most downers (esp alcohol) make you v unaware of what's going on and what yr doing and how it's going to affect you. Heard from someone a while ago is that alcoholism happens when you've been in the rotations of drinking daily and 20 years later do it to stabilize, it's not rly an immediate problem unless ppl are wild af

>>9413833
>is it really impossible to break free from alcoholism?
No, but it is extremely difficult.

If you are dependent on alcohol then you literally need it to survive. If someone locked you in a cell without booze the withdrawals can be lethal.

>>9413851
just shut the fuck up you blabbering child.
>>9413833
it's a craving. a physical and mental craving. like wanting sweets or sex, and just as intense if not more so. a real biological demand. it lingers for days, weeks, months. trying to ride it out is very difficult, because the only thing that satisfies it is alcohol.

>>9413862
someone needs a drink prolly can't get one bc you just got outta school

>>9413862
The craving is there, sure. But it's more than just a craving. You have physical pain, headaches, nausea, insomnia, and all sorts of other extremely unpleasant physical symptoms if you stop drinking when you are dependent. The only thing that relieves those symptoms (temporarily, of course) is drinking.

>>9413862
>alcohlism is like wanting sex
someone hasn't had sex ever what a fucking idiot

>>9413859
>>9413862

So, how should one proceed to break free out of it? The reason why I'm asking is that one of my friends has fallen into this pitfall, and I'm wondering if there is anything I could do to help him. The real symptoms appeared around 3 years ago, and with each passing year it's worse and worse. He is still able to attend his job (and I have to admit, he is great at doing this, even while working under the influence), but when asked about his lately health deterioration, he avoids the topic and refuses to attend mandatory medical checks.

>>9413883
taper off drinking, form new habits that replace old ones, in extreme cases benzos may be necessary. Something has to fill the void and stop the potential convulsions and pain, no cold turkey bullshit

>>9413883
I can only relate personal advice:

1) Talk to him/her about it. You need to make sure of two things when you do this. First, that the other person is sober at the time. And second, you need to get the point across that this is serious business.

2) The person involved needs to taper off their alcohol consumption. Quitting suddenly is not only dangerous to health, but it's also a lot more difficult to quit. So say they're having 20 drinks a day right now. They go down to 18 for a while. Then 16. Then 14....and so on. Slowly reduce the booze intake.

>>9413833
I can get good streaks of sobriety going after a taper, but when I'm on a bender I'm scared of hangovers and withdrawals.

I'm not necessarily psychologically dependant on alcohol, but I'm a binger. So I will have a glass because why not, and then I have three more, and then I have to keep going until I black out and wake up, and then I get more to deal with the after affects, which turns into another binge and repeat. It's like I'm a temporary prisoner. Once I taper and sober up again after a few weeks it all seems like a distant dream and I can't understand how I could be such a fiend and let a night of drinking turn into a week or more. Which leads to underestimating the bottle and giving it another shot after a few weeks. Repeat ad infinitum.

Everyone is different though.

I canat smok enogh t0 mke me say no
helo ke

>>9413942
I feel ya. I work selling booze, so my routine is to hopefully taper with with a 375ml a day or beer on my weekends, then I go back to work and resume the steadily increasing daily consumption for five days. Rinse and repeat for the past four years or so.

sum cunt on the internet teld me that ah could "aerate" cheap shite red wine that I scored from aldi, thus makin' it moar platable, by sticking a drinking straw into the bottle and blowing bubbles through it. Needles tae say ahm now covered in aldi's own brand shiraz from heid tae fuckin toe.
it went all over mah new burberry jacket and mah timberland pieces ma maw bought me fi' christmas.

If I find oot who did this ah'll cut their fucking gizzard oot with a stanley knife. Ah'll chib sum cunt, ah'm tellin' ye, kenwotahmean.

fuxache.

fucking bawbags.

>>9413984
I've been meditating lately and it helps because it makes me more resistant to self-trickery.

>>9413883
I take naltrexone to curb cravings. Really helps me. Tried AA and rehab before but they didn't help much. It's a mental and physical disease.

>>9413872
I was talking about when you are detoxed How it continues to manifest

>>9413603
>>9413702
Can we post more sloots eating?

>>9413883
First step is admitting he has a problem, and that he should stop.
Then, no cold turkey. Withdrawals can be dangerous. He needs to taper booze (it's easier with beer), or switch to benzo and taper those (see a doc for that option). Should last a week or two.
Then, it's post-accute withdrawals (PAWS) for about a year. With fun things like cravings, brainfog, anhedonia, depression, falling off the wagon and starting everything from the beginning...

He'll have to do it himself, you can offer support. And look for a cheap/free outpatient rehab program in your area. Be prepared to go out and not drink (or drink soda) with him.

Lookup alanon, it's for friends ans family of alkies, they may have information for you.

>>9413990
>sum cunt on the internet teld me that ah could "aerate" cheap shite red wine that I scored from aldi, thus makin' it moar platable,
Yes, he's right
>by sticking a drinking straw into the bottle and blowing bubbles through it.
as well as a troll. Or a drunk, it's really the kind of shit you do drunk when you don't have proper glassware around.
Sorry for your shoes, they're nice.

>>9414011
>>9414000
>>9413887
>>9413886
>>9413942

Thanks, will try talking with him about it soon. Have a nice evening.

>I heard from my father's gf that he started drinking again, and that he tried to down a handful of sleeping pills last night
>cheers, I'm not that bad off
>I'm not proud, though

>>9413990
Try your blender

>>9414041
does it work with buckfast?

mah blender has a tast of onion after makin soup that ah cannae remove

>>9413990
Wines fir fucking poofs

>>9414079
i scored more fanny than you've hud hot dinners, bambi.
ah'll drink what ah want.

i'm a cultured man. you expect me tae be like wan of those soft cunts drinkin' spesh brew and pishing themeselves in the library at 11am?

get fucked

>>9414053
>>9414117
Quit typing like a faggot. You fucking faggot.

>>9414033
I sure hope you're not proud anon. Why in hell would you drink a four loko?

>>9414053
Back on board's topic: saw it on serious eats, I think.

vodkabro reporting in tuesday 00:06

>>9413059
2 weeks sober
I did it tomorrow will be the longest I've been sober for in over 3 year's

>>9414331
Nice.

>>9414331
Congrats bro.
How are things going so far?

>>9413059
Listerine

WHow do you guys are even able to keep track of drinks when tapering or sober days over years when you relapse?

>>9414331
that's amazing, I don't think I've gone two weeks sober after reaching 21 and for like 7 of those years I didn't have a drinking problem

>>9413811
>rocket
but up or down?

>>9414495
Why not both?

>>9413862
>alcoholism is like wanting sex

Yeah this has to be a major component of it, because it's easy to logically understand why drinking way too much alcohol routinely is terrible for you. Thus, it must have some sort of compulsion aspect. (not that everyone is an alc, but that the people who are true alcs have some sort of genetic "tick" that makes them crave it more than those without the "tick").

Of course it's more complicated than that. I do think "mental weakness" plays some role (as does happiness/depression/anxiety and other obvious factors), but the more crucial one is an innate compulsion. Not an alc myself, or a doctor of addiction, but that's just the only way to explain it. If it weren't largely/mostly compulsion, then hangovers, physical damage, legal penalties, general stupid acts, cirrhosis/other alc diseases etc. would be plenty to persuade people not to be alcs.

I have a bit of the genetic trait that I suspect is responsible for alcoholism, because it runs somewhat in my father's line, but I've been able to control it thus far. But I do enjoy a drink.

>11 days sober
>thinking about getting wasted so that i get the courage to check school email

>>9413811
>If I can have my morning drink flown in the window and sat on my pillow every morning, my quality of life will rocket.
I have on my dresser a bottle of brandy or scotch most of the time and it really is excellent.

Regular binge drinker and now and then "frequent" drinker here.
Been out of work off and on for over 2 years, though I had savings and credit cards and EI.
Was getting blackout-don't remember shit style drunk 2-3 times a week minimum. Often drinking at least 4-5 beer per day on days i wasn't hammered.
Recently started a job where I work 70 hours a week, and impossible to drink on the job. I was so physically fucked, i'd fall asleep as soon as I got home. No "symptoms" yet though... I'm into my 4th week no (last week was only 55 hours though, and i had sunday off, and drank as soon as i woke up at 5 am)
Will I be ok? I'm flat broke and cred maxed out, so I can't afford a quart (usually a quart of rum or bourbon and several beer or bottle of wine, when I do my blackout drunks) for a while...

>>9414131
respect mah cultural heritage, ya bam

>>9414553
No, you won't be ok in the long run.
Remember that there are no winners here, there is nothing glorious about being a drunk.
Sometimes we might laugh and commiserate but we all know that we are killing ourselves with every sip.
You need a job if you want to stay off the streets. Choose wisely anon.

>>9414704
>off the streets
>mfw this is really a thing in murica
>mfw government pays my rent for a nice place and gives enough money to get drunk daily

>>9414718
i've been boozing off the state for 5y now

feel good

>>9414553
you drank for one day?

>>9414704
>>9414718

Haha... must be nice. Even with thise 55-70 hour a week job, i'm almost on the streets. Very expensive to live here, and no government money unless you're a single mom or "refugee".

>>9414738
Yeah i drank for about 7 hours, don't remember much, woke up in a chair and had to leave for work.
Can't really drink on nights that I work because i have to sleep as soon as I get home, which is probably good I guess

>>9414772
well at least you won't be having wds

next time plan the maximum amount you'll allow yourself to drink and buy no more than that. it will suck when you run out but you will thank yourself the next day.

>>9413990
Sorry, but that's 100% your fault, bruv.

>>9414033
It's a bad feel knowing that your dad drinks. Well, because he's legit a great guy and has always been great to me, but the last 5-6 years he's been an alc. Not as bad as many, and is functioning at a high-paying job, but it's hurt his quality of life and caused real problems (thankfully not yet legal or serious health problems). Hard to see your father do that to himself.

I'm honestly thinking about introducing him to kratom. I think the biggest reason he drinks is because it makes him happier, enjoy life more. I'm familiar with kratom, and I think it could supplant that function--make him enjoy life more than he does sober. And even if he took it 4 times/day for the rest of his life, it'd be 1000 times healthier than alcohol. But of course, he might just keep drinking and do both at the same time lol.

Is "Hair of the dog" a real thing or just another way alcoholics rationalize more drinking?

>>9414033
>TeslaCig Stealth
Nice.

>>9414825
Yeah it works

>>9414825
...Does getting drunk make you feel better when you have hangover? Yes. Also one of the things that makes people fall into alcoholism.

>>9414825
It helps with a hangover, feels fucking incredible in fact.

>>9414825
aye

What's the thing called when you distill beer to get highly concentrated alcohol?

>>9414861
Still.

>>9414822
>he's legit a great guy and has always been great to me

Jesus Finnegan, what is this Christian magic? What mad fool would admit knowing some random, uncited drunk?

>I'm honestly thinking about introducing him to kratom
Further implication of some personal involvement? Who the hell is this anon?

>>9414861

beer beer or 'beer' as in wash? Distilling beer tastes like shit because of the hops. They do call wash beer though.

>>9414908
how drunk are you

>>9413744
>with any luck I'll remember most of it and won't need to re watch tomorrow
Know this feel, I'm currently on my second rewatch of the latest season of Veep because I didn't remember it the first time around.

>>9414830
It's a Witcher
>>9414921
I'm not, but there's a frightening parallel with my recent Google searches which strikes me as un-ignorable

>>9414927
>what's the episode i watched last night
>is it this one
>maybe this one
>wait why the fuck i don't remember anything about any of these episodes
>end up watching the same episode three times

should i become an alcohol?

pros and cons please

>>9414937
I've also started my rewatch of Trailer Park Boys yesterday. I got to season 7 or 9 the first time, I don't quite remember.

I regularly forget entire movies I watched the night before.

>>9413605
I do all the time. Luckily I run my own office so my boss isn't there. But I sit across the desk from customers all the time with a bottle of whiskey by my feet. No one has ever said anything. I tend to be more likeable when I'm drunk.

>>9414948
Fuck it, if it's TPB you can watch it all twice

I watched my first exposure of it in a random order, thanks to pre-Google-owned-YouTube-Google-videos, and it was unimaginably good.

>>9414943
pros: can make you feel good temporarily
cons: price paid outweighs the feelgood, deal with the devil

>>9414908
lel

>>9415042
lyl

>>9415042
>>9415056

I'm on another bender, been constantly drunk since last friday..downed 14 or 15 liters of beer, about 4 liters of cheap ass bourbon so far..feeling like shit, but that's nothing new...when I'm done, I can go days without withdrawal symptons or shit...also, it's my birthday today.

>>9414943
Harsh reality is that most people have to be responsible and that means facing pain and fear and doing things that suck. If you try to hide in bottles it will not end well.

>>9415098
Hap birth

>>9415113

thanks man, skoll

>>9415098
congratulations, how old?

This little guy made his way into my possession today when a buddy came back from meh-he-ko.

anybody seen smirnoffbro or simpsonbro? Shit be lookin bad, man. I just fuckholed another bender for a week, been withdrawaling for 3 days. Supposed to be out of this apt by the 30th. fucking

-gin blossoms motherboard guy

>>9415124

too old for this shit honestly, 37..

>>9415107
even if you're a single neet with all the money you need living in the bottle gets tiresome as fuck after a while. it's just another job at some point.

>can barely drink vodka fast enough to get drunk anymore
>can't even go to bars because I can't get served doubles fast enough
>i broke it guys

>>9415132
bullshit

drink more and stronger alcohol you homo

>>9415135
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P1yufd_-z4

like this

>>9415128
are you on welfare/disability or something that you can afford to drink like that?

>>9415135
Dude I am out here working a 1.75l/ day 80 proof vodka habit. I can drink enough to stop wds, and grain alcohol feels like it'll actually be the point of no return.

Caved and bought a bottle of wine. Been drinkin and smokin weed daily for months. Today was supposed to be the first day sober... Oh well.

I wish we had an al/ck/ bar where we could all drink and feel together.
No tipping of course

>>9415147
are you the guy that keeps it by his bad and makes burgers at 3am?

>>9415138
That guy is like a bootleg shoenice, haha.

>>9415147
stop drinking with food in your stomach. Don't eat for about 6 hours before you drink

>>9415156
Yup, that's me. These threads keep me sane.

>>9415147
better to start tapering while you can

Brehs, my dad is an alcoholic and I love getting buzzed every day. It's hard not to. I clearly have a problem with self control and addiction.

Am i genetically fucked? Do I need to stop drinking and smoking forever to fix myself?

>>9415159
Oh but I do, my tolerance is through the fucking roof I think.
Those first 5 morning shots w/ a lil ice water are my favorite.

>>9414033

Looks cosy, hope everything works out for your dad and you

Can people at work smell alcohol if you drank the night before? I haven't drank before or during work for years but I will drink when I'm not working. Also how long after your last drink will a breathalyzer fuck you? Let's say you had some drinks watching Sunday night football, had your last beer at 1030 P.M., show up to work at 8:00 Monday morning and are called in for a breath test. Are you still blowing booze fumes?

>>9415161
what the hell happened to your girl to make you cut back here and there?!

>>9415139

No, actually not, took two weeks off from work, but everything else is still in fucking shambles here. I always, or for the longest time, did drink myself unconcious or black out drunk on friday and saturday, When I have the time, things get nasty though..Good shit is, I'm not a violent or annoying drunk, rather soak in my own mental mysery of the/at the time. I'm a carsalesman, by the way, I shit you not. Takes a number on your mental halth as well, but I started drinking way before. Sorry for this diary entry, you fuckers

>>9415166
>mfw family full of mentally ill alcoholics who have drank themselves to death or shot themselves or shot their family of some combination of the three
>mfw i'm a depressed alcoholic

JUST

>>9415175
depends how much you drink

>>9415179
I'm curious...

How many people here have alcoholic parents? Did we lose the genetic lottery?

I only drink one weekends, usually one day a week. I drink heavily, but keep it isolated to that circumstance. I love the feeling of being tipsy. Feels so... free, yaknow?


Anyway, am I in danger of being an addict or am I ok?

>>9415187
>muh genetics
Alcoholism is over 90% a choice

Am I the only one here who doesn't drink shots?
I just sip it out of the bottle.

>Inb4 pussy

>>9415201
>one day a week

You're fine. Keep doing what you're doing, if you can keep it to that.

>>9415187
I was a meth baby

>>9415205
I don't think so. Some people never have a problem with moderation in their lives.

>>9415207
I see absolutely no reason to do shots alone.

>cant wait til roommate dissapears for 4 days on thursday
>i work night shift whole fucking weekend.
>Have time for one big fucking one day bender on thursday

Hopefully i will choke on my vomits and he finds me 4 days later.

>>9415205
Most things are choice, but 4chan resents that because losers here don't like admitting shit like their success with women/the amouunt of money they make is their own fault. People here like to fall back on the "life dealt me a bad card excuse because It's convinient.

>>9415207
I used to do that when I was a kid. Now I buy one, have a decent time, black out, and the other 5 bottles I pour in a glass and slug to hope I don't start shaking till the next day.

>>9415209
I mean, sometimes multiple days, but never before work, and I work 5 days a week. I'm just saying I can do half a bottle just sitting on the computer listening to 90s music videos or some shit.

>>9415224
As long as it's not every day, you don't have a problem.

>>9415222
You don't think some people can be more genetically inclined to make a choice than others?

>>9415227
There's no way I can drink every day. Ha.govers piss me off too much.

So youre saying It's ok that I drink my drinks straight and down them quickly?

>>9415230
If you're only getting drunk on average 2 nights a week, you're fine. When it goes past that it's a problem. Doesn't matter what you're drinking.

>>9415230
hangovers are litereally the reason to drink every day

>>9415177
She's just bad at drinking and I sometimes have a hard time relating to her about alcohol related problems.
We're still going steady, thanks for checking.

>>9415229
Not him but what you're exposed to in the first 10 years of life (parenting/bad experiences/common tendencies/practices/etc) will have an infinitely larger effect on what you naturally go on to be more privy at or pick up faster/slower than what your biological makeup is. I don't deny the role of heredity in a person's talents, but they are not the leading role most of the time, that's all.

>>9415238
Seconding that meng

>>9415241
That's true enough.

>>9415236
Wew. Thanks bud
I was worried

>>9415230

Hair of dog beers do it for me, after a few I usually want something harder..vicious cycle

>>9415241
This, and also I know a lot of parents that are al/ck/ who drink with their kids around 14-18. I had a friend who's dad would get hammered with us on school weeknights, it seemed cool at the time but in retrospect I think he was just doing his thing and we were present.
Dude was actually really nice, desu. But I can see that shit kick starting a bad habit.
He's two years sober now and owns his own restaurant, I'm happy for him.

>>9415241
So you would think that you could immediately stop a genetic line of drug addicts with self control and dependency problems with a single generation of responsible parenting? I have to disagree. I think it runs deeper than that.
My perspective would be the way that someone parents is based off of genetics as well.

Is it normal to feel dizzy the day after a night of heavy boozing?

i hate these beer shits, my anus is oblierated after 4 day binge.

>>9415268
yes

low blood sugar + increased anxiety and nausea

>>9415271

I see it like lthis..if you haven't puked up blood yet, you still maybe be ok.

>>9415299

rarely puke, dont know if its a good or a bad sign.

But when i do, i puke blood

>>9415345
That's bad

>>9415345

yeah man, get checked up, an ulcer most likely, but still

>>9415369
>>9415375

i have a checkup at doctors place next week, havent been there for 3 years, wish me luck

>>9415201
Dad is an alchy and has been forever. He was in icu for a week from alcohol and had to visit him as a child and write in a "get well folder" on how his drinking is destroying every bodies lives.

Parents divorced now and my dad is jobless and lives with his 85 year old father, he's just suffered his 2nd alcoholic related stroke and is still down the pub everyday.

>Tfw being 14 and finding your dads stash of strong bow and smashing them all in the garden and having his drunken tear filled depressive rage come at you

>>9415394

good luck mate, do report back

So as usual I know this isn't the place for this, but I don't wanna make a thread for it.

What's a good cheap starter brandy?

I don't know the prices so is ~$20 for a handle a good price point?

Ideally I'd like it to be near the $13-15 range, but if that's not possible it's fine too.

>>9415205
>>9415222
Choice is literally a religious meme with no basis in reality. People have nomore choice than pears and rocks.

>>9413659
Fuck that looks nice.

>>9415126
withdrawing

What's rehab like? I'm starting tomorrow.

I don't have enough to drink tonight
I thought I did
And I'm quite drunk now
But not fucking enough

I'm feeling some anxiety coming on

>>9414532
Are you me?

>>9415606
ah, that feeling...know it only too well, ....can't get drunk enough with the shit you got left ( you think), facing the outside world to buy more...both worked for me,depending if you are a clumsy and/or agressive drunk
, your milage might vary

>down to 6 beers a day
so this is what winning feels like

NALTREXONE WORKS! 28 days for me!

>>9415606
A trick I learned is always buy more than you think you will need and make sure you leave something for yourself in the morning when you wake up

>>9415804
I'm down to zero. Day 2 of 0 units, after a harsh taper and a minutiae of benzo assistance for a couple of days after that.
I did buy a bag of very nice weed though. No chance of being bored if I'm high.
I was worried it'd exacerbate WD anxiety, had booze on standby incase I panicked, but didn't. In fact I give almost as few fucks about anything high than I do while drunk, and omg, waking up having not been poisoned the night before, and not falling immediately into withdrawal? This is one of the cosiest things ever experienced by man

>>9413059
Any one else here unable to get black out drunk? Like I get straight alcohol poisoning with the shakes and all before I'm even close to passing out.

>>9415605
More fun if you dissolve coke in a water bottle before going in.
It's shit even then though. Expect to want to bail and get rekt, every minute you're there.
I completed my last detox without escaping, then got drunk within hours of being discharged.

>>9415835
27 days, checking in.

>>9413059
just bought some beers out of habit and I opened a can and it's been getting warm, i've reached a point where drinking is a chore and it just makes me tired and sort of sick feeling, no euphoria anymore.

>>9415867
>>9415132
Yes mane, you are not alone...

>>9415187
There are many alkies and some junkies in my father's family. Both my parents were alcoholics at some point.

>>9414825
Yes it works.

If i feel like absolute shit and weed or oxycodone isn't helping. 2 or 3 shots do it every time

>>9415606
Just reading this gives me anxiety.

>Which kind of liqour doesn't make my breath smell of alcohol?

Hennigan's

>>9416111
just makes you call black people niggers

>>9416128
kramer did nothing wrong

>>9416180
he's not even a racist, that's what's so insane about this

>>9416182
that's true, hecklers are assholes and he was merely trying to inflict damage

>>9416111
>>Which kind of liqour doesn't make my breath smell of alcohol?

if you drink enough it'll end up coming out of your pores anyways, you can take tons of showers and try to mask it with cologne but you'll still smell like a drunken low-class car salesman drenched in cheap aqua velva.

I bought vodka, life is good

>>9416211
Bitch

>>9416240

I wanna go pick up a bottle but it's only 8 in the morn' and my neighbors are all flitting about chatty and shit like morning songbirds. Gossiping bastards, I guess I could just be balls-out about it. Wish me luck.


>>9416247
Akko, no cry!

bourbon, lots of it

>>9416366
stupid hamsterposter

>>9416366
>soviet
>post-ussr capitalist vodka

reeee

triggered

>>9416366
Just put it in a backpack or something, how would they know which errands you run?

Or do you live across the road from the liquor store?

I tried to start drinking cheap wine instead of beer because alc/money wise wine is cheaper.

I drink the wine, I feel like I am intoxicated with something but it doesn't feel the same as beer and it doesn't give me the feeling I want. How come?

>>9416503
My neighbors are nosy, and doubly I never show my face because I hate myself, but there was no one around. The old lady at the store though, she looked disappointed in me. But there's a liter of cheap vodka here, so whatever.

>>9416503
>Or do you live across the road from the liquor store?

Man, imagine what life would be like...
I'd still have to drive across town to buy my booze.

>>9416559
I also feel different with different sort of drinks, may be a psychological thing.

But in the case of beer it also has hop, which is a relaxing herb from the hemp family.

>>9413144
Time to neck you're self then

Just shut my computer down accidentally. I moved the cursor down to the bottom of my screen and somehow I right clicked and then clicked shutdown.

Crazy stuff. Lost an hour of progress.

the fucking shame and guilt is the absolute worst about being alcoholic. Can barely go down to shop without anxiety or maybe meeting someone i will know.

It always has to be an explanation why i buy beer on a fucking tuesday or something. i fucking hate people

>>9416657
>Lost an hour of progress.
What were you working on?

>>9416698
Persona 4.

>>9416714
That sucks. I hate losing progress in games

>nothing to do today
>took me morning swigs
>walking around feeding and giving each of my pets some love
>it's gorgeous outside

I do not say this often, but boys, it's a good day to be an al/ck/.

>gin was on offer so stocked up
It's a good feel when that happens. Cheers lads

>>9416718
Don't ever start playing roguelikes.

>>9417339
In Roguelikes/Roguelites it's part of the gameplay though so it doesn't bother me
Used to play EtG before switching to Mint

>>9415201
u won't become an alcoholic unless you have a reason to drink. relationship/money/job/family/mental health issues

>>9415201
Someone here told me it's not about the quantity it's about the dependence.
It's when you start drinking to numb certain feelings that you should be worried.
And really, why worry?

>>9417357

Welcome to Social Stratification 101. First question: Why did the Weimar Republic collapse?

>>9415132
I just got this with beer and realized what people on /hooch/ meant when they said there is a level where you don't even get drunk on beer. It's not that you can't, it's just that chugging liters of fluid is quite uncomfortable

>>9417389
>Why did the Weimar Republic collapse
Jews

>>9417398

That was the excuse for morons. They locked onto that like the poverty class they were.

>>9415835
Awesome. Keep spreading the word.

>>9417339
>8 hours into a game of nethack
>die because do something stupid or not paying attention (picking up a cocaktrice corpse without gloves, getting drowned to death by a python while flying over water, get crushed by an exploding drawbridge)
>Welp time to start over
I don't know why I do it.

>>9417398

Dumb desperate people make dumb desperate choices. It was the treaty of versailles squeezing the state into hyperinflation. But people who can barely read can't figure that shit out. This is what is happening in the US right now. The "flyover states can't figure out why they're suffering" so they blame the nearest whatever like the suffering dogs they are.

>>9417402
Sure thing Hymie

>>9417420

You really live the retarded life, don't you? You're really like a human monkey. You don't know much about the world but the world hurts you.

>>9417417
Oy vey

>>9417389
Not enough waifus

>>9417427
>You really live the retarded life, don't you? You're really like a human monkey. You don't know much about the world but the world hurts you.
*Tips fedora

>>9417428

MY PENIS! It's intact. I'm a boring Canadian looking at you like you need to grow up. I get that you don't understand much, but get your fucking poverty together so people won't judge you so stupid.

>>9417427
>human monkey
Rick and Morty is a great show, I really like it too

>>9417436

Isn't that like 2008?

>>9417072
It's great whn you're drinking all night and you go outside in the morning and she's a beaut

>>9417437
>Canadian
Lol, no wonder you're a good goy
>>9417445
Fuck off newfag

>>9417452

I love you fucking worthless people finding the last place you might matter.

GIVE ME ADVICE..

>>9417417
>>9417402
But muh history teacher said it was the Germans fault for being evil Nazi scum

>>9417461
How's you're first day off reddit, kid?

>>9417464

Germans had nothing to do with it. The "loss of station, loss of economic representation, and the loss of future prospects" is what made ostensibly wealthy European people fear for their future and adopt a fascist lifestyle. GIMME WHAT I DESERVE OR I'LL ALLOW YOU TO KILL.. jews.. hispanics.. cripples.. romanians.. americans.. mentally disordered..

You assholes really don't understand life, do you?

>>9417437
>MY PENIS!
Bet you can't even stay hard, you Canadian homo

I don't recall many al/ck/ threads having this level of retarded pol-posting, is this a new phenomenon? Or is it just one starved for attention shitposter?

>>9417480
>jews.. hispanics.. cripples.. romanians.. mentally disordered..
So average Canadian citizens?

>>9417482

I know you people are stupid and uneducated. But before you succumb to liver failure you should learn about the world you live in.

>>9415865
The weed morning is glorious, if it was legal I'd definitely smoke instead of drinking. Not saying it's some kind of wonder drug, but it's infinitely better in every way than alcohol, except maybe the anxiety/paranoia, that I sadly get quite a lot of

>>9417480
>You assholes really don't understand life, do you?
No, you're the one who can't think outside of this little bubble you call life, now be a good goy and service some Muslim cock, eyy

>>9417493
It's just one attention starved shitposter.
Can we get back to the regularly scheduled misery, please?

>>9417497
>stupid and uneducated
"I am so educated, because I followed the path that my Jewish education system layed out for me. I would never question what I'm told, the teachers are always right"

>>9417503
>Can we get back to the regularly scheduled misery, please
This is the regularly scheduled misery, faggot

>>9417501

You realize your the fucking flakes that destroyed the Western Empire back when Rome was a power. You're so stupid and self interested you don't care that you're cancer.

>>9417503
I feel like shit and I want to die.
If i were drinking I'd feel better but I'm at work arguing with clients and worrying coworkers.

>>9417514
>You're so stupid and self interested you don't care that you're cancer.
Says the liberal Canadian

FUCK YOU GUYS ARE KILLING MY AL/CK/
NOBODY CARES ABOUT THE FUCKING JEWS OR MUSLIMS OR ANYTHING I JUST WANT TO DRINK MYSELF TO DEATH WITH LIKEMINDED INDIVIDUALS

>>9417514
>You realize your the fucking flakes that destroyed the Western Empire back when Rome was a power.
Somebody has to destroy the Normies

>>9417517

Every time you garbage people point yourselves out. I end up going to an American movie Apollo 13, when you domestic filth weren't listened to. you were the garbage people in the flyover states. I love that movie and it isn't even from my country.

You current filth are like a mold on society and you probably feel it in your stomachs.

>>9417525
Yeah, fuck Canadians

>>9417527
Fucking hell lads this thread is turning to shit. What are you all drinking tonight?

>>9417072
So who's drinking what? Well into my afternoon now on another 1.75 of smirnoff, about a third of the way through. Still a pretty good day.
It's so fuggin nice out I might just have to grill out and chill out.

>>9417533
>You current filth are like a mold on society
What are liberals, Muslims, niggers, and kikes

>>9417513
No ur a fag haha

>>9417541
Crown Royal, Molson, and Somali refugee Cum

>>9417545

Exactly, you fucking misery. What kind of human mistake talks like that?

>>9417541
>>9417542
Pabst for breakfast
Pabst for lunch
Whiskey for a snack
Pabst for dinner
A chocolate chip cookie (or 4) for desert

Also I think I will grill up some burgers tonight since the weather is finally cooling down

>>9417548
>No ur a fag haha
;(

>>9417451
What, are you crazy? I'm still gonna send it.

>>9417558
Stay goy, faggot.
Keep walking on the sidewalk

Don't forget to listen to people who are living in log based homes.

>>9417576
I'll log your base

>>9417541
Right now, the rest of last nights wine, have to head to the store soon, (probably buy some weed on the way). What should I get to drink?

>>9417581
More wine sounds comfy, failing that a good bottle of whisky never goes wrong

>>9417576
I will also log your base

>>9417581
It depends, can you day nap or do you have to remain functional?

>>9417591
Yeah, I like wine and weed, not a big fan of whiskey, tho. Now I just have to get my muscles to stop aching, so I can get to the store in the 2 hour window, where I can still buy booze.

>>9417602
It's evening here (CET), so I can go wild

Should you put vodka into the fridge or the freezer?
Pic unrelated but I want replies

>>9417669
jus fookin driink et m8o

>>9417669
Vodka is the only liquor that goes in the freezer.


Also, new thread when?

>>9417541
Beer. Beer is life. Beer is love. Beer. I'm drinking beer right now.

Fucked up lunch. Should I grab something to eat or just keep drinking beers til dinner then eat

I ate breakfast and drinking some High Life's

Accidental drinking day. Oops
Well, I bought the beer but you know...

Drunken pilgrimage completed. Time to get comfy

>>9418024
I'm not one for gin but I've gotta try those chips

>>9418054
They are really good, I'm not normally one for crisps but when these are on offer I stock up. They do chilli ones as well which are really nice but you don't see them often sadly

>>9417669
>>9417739
Vodka is best at room temperature you raging morons

>>9417498
>anxiety/paranoia
Do CBD instead of regular pot. (Or high CBD low THC strain, if available.)

>>9418113
Good and expensive vodka yes. Regular and bottom shelve vodka go in the freezer.

>>9418113
What if I mix it with energy drinks?

>>9418137
I'm still speaking for regular tier vodka.
Smirnoff room temp 'till this shit kills me.

>>9418152
This is acceptable under dire circumstances in my book.

>>9418161
I was told that it tastes pretty good
How do you usually drink your vodka? Pure?

I drank one of those Bud Lite margarita in a can things yesterday

I don't know how to feel about myself

>>9417143
which gin m8?

also which tonic if there is any in there

>>9418152
>he seeks to be conscious when he does not have to be

>>9418198
Better than the clamato/tomato juice/beer mix.

New thread >>9418215

>>9418195
Big gulps of the stuff with ice water chaser, or soda if I'm in a pinch. Preferably ice water, though.

>>9418199
Sipsmith, £17 a bottle so I bought 4. Got some fever tree light in there, and got a supply of the Tesco own brand stuff for when I'm a good few deep and can't tell the difference

>>9418236
never had it, looks nice though

>>9415394
Godspeed, anon.