/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>9164966
Are you alone?

old tread
>>9164818

also pray for smirnoff bro

wish they sold spirits in 100ml incremental sizes

trying to taper off from a 700ml a day but can't leave a bottle unfinished and 350ml is just not enough to stop it

>>9164966
I always, always fuck up if I try to taper. Good luck anon, please send a postcard to my grave if you do manage to escape.

>>9165005
Prayers cannot help the dead

>>9165015
Buy loads of 100ml bottle instead.

Line up your daily allowance and lock the rest away

>>9165030
yeah I was buying 350 + 250

think i may try and switch to 350 + a couple of beers, as the beers last longer so I can at least "have a drink", despite tapering off total abv

>>9165030
>Buy loads of 100ml bottle instead.

this. Or buy a larger bottle and immediately pour out some of it.

Been tapering for a few weeks now that I need to move home for 6 weeks and my mother doesn't know about my drinking problem nor do I want her to. Gone from a 70cl of gin a day to a six pack of 5% beer a night. Got 2 more days, and some shitty bud light (3.5%) in the fridge for tomorrow. I actually think I can do this, been drinking a fuck load of soft drinks (tonic water and ginger ale) in between drinks to trick myself into not noticing I am not drinking booze. Wish me luck.

Also RIP Smirnoffbro. I hope you aren't kill, but it doesn't look good.

>>9165041
Would recommend tapering with some low abv beer or something sickly sweet like Smirnoff ice if you're going to do it alone. I wasn't able to do it on my own with vodka, because a.) I enjoyed it and b.) my mind always convinced me I was going to die if I didn't get smashed asap.

>>9165076
You raise a point I wanted to ask

Tonic water on it's own. Nice, or just a necessary evil for alchies?

I like bitter lemon

>>9165090

drinking tonic by itself makes me feel sick as i consume so many g&ts

just feels so off without the gin in there and isn't a nice reminder

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11660210

So, there's that.

>>9165099
>harm score

seems legit

Nice tunes, booze, sudokus
What more could a man want

>>9165104

happiness & a second chance

>>9165101
You're challenging the opinion or professor David Nutt, whose entire career has been dedicated to the study of drugs. Former chief drugs adviser to the British government. Pls stahp.

>>9164966
Is 12:30 too early to polish off this champagne? Should I eat something first or something?

>>9165126
Who got booted from government service for being a raving nutter who ignored evidence that didn't fit his model.

>>9165127
Really?

>>9165126
>amphetamines
>"harm to others" that low

Limes are fucking tarded

>>9165090
Personally it's been fantastic, I drink it in a similar way to G&T so there is always ice and a wedge of lime / lemon in there. I always really liked the taste of gin and tonic so it wasn't a shock to the system, and to be perfectly honest probably part of the reason I got to that state to begin with. I always read about people drinking vodka out the bottle and thought that was insanity because that tastes like shit and I was fine because I genuinely liked what I was drinking. Then I realised I was at a bottle a day for over a year so I wasn't actually that far off.

>>9164995
No. Wife and I are both tapering to quit. We each drink an 18 pack/day.

>>9165017
Thanks, and hopefully you'll get free of this demon.

>>9165128
He was fired for saying that riding horses is more dangerous than using heroin. Which is a fact. Used to illustrate the absolute retardation of today's drug laws

>>9165159
Best of luck to you both. It's scary how quickly your tolerance, and thus consumption, racks up isn't it?

>>9165167
>heroin
Wait, I mean MDMA.
I don't use any illegal drugs btw, I'm just killing myself legally with ethanol. Shame I can't chill with a joint and live decades longer, but nah, the public knows better than perhaps the most learned and knowledgeable man on earth on this subject, prof D.N.

>>9165099
>LSD more harmful than shrooms
>Ecstacy less harmful than K
>Cannabis nearly as harmful to others as Tobacco

kek

>>9165233
You're I assume, acting under the assumption that only harm to the individual users was considered.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qU886JT8734

>>9165212
Glad you clarified. Here I was thinking horses were some sort of literal death machine, killing all in their wake.

>>9165212
>Shame I can't chill with a joint and live decades longer
Well, you can, but you choose grievous effects on your health over possible minor legal problems (assuming you are in USA/Europe).

Evening bros, 34 days sober and pretty sure I had a mini-stroke in my sleep last night, parts of my body are numb.

>>9165272
Could just be a kinked nerve or something.

>>9164966
I'll start it today with you, OP. Trying to do this without telling anyone and hiding it from my gf

Going into (mild) DT's, hoping for something resembling sleep but i'm not holding my breath. Am i the only person who really enjoys the post-nausea withdrawal? No sleep, horribly vivid nightmares (which I love), emotionally a wreck, atleast I feel something when i'm in that stage.

It's amazing how much water retention you lose when you quit for a few days, I feel like every cup of liquid I drink I piss a liter of water

>>9165272
I've been noticing partial muscle loss in the left side of my body, i'm pretty sure i'm in the same boat

>>9165326
If I stop, I CANNOT seem to hydrate. I mean, throwing up 50 times a day can't help, but omg, no matter how much water I drink I'm still always thirsty. I must go through something like 30L of water every day for at least the first 3 days, probably keep like 1L of it down, and my piss is umpa lumpa orange.

>>9165324

After particularly long benders I would give up trying to sleep since it's not really worth it (the second I begin to fall asleep I'd jolt awake in terror) and see how far down the rabbit hole I could go. After day 4 or 5 you begin to get some neat hallucinations (nothing like real psychedelics ofc) from sleep deprivation and the withdrawal keeps you awake like a madman. Did some really lucid writing during these hours, I can see how someone like Joyce could come up with what he did while being a raging alcoholic.

>7 minutes till 5pm

Sub 2 weeks sober.. and got invited to a beer/rib fest on saturday.. I dont want to drink but im worried Ill crack then.. and then end up buying a 12pack or two after.. or sunday.

>>9165354
Yeah I've written some neat stuff thanks to the nightmares, I really enjoy the vivid nightmares, they allow me to live things I could never live in real life.

Always taper with beer. Harder to get a buzz and therefore easier to stay on course

>>9165392

DRINK RESPONSIBLY

>>9165392
>8 minutes late

>>9165433
I never spill any.

>>9165090
Some like to replace booze with something similar. Virgin mojito, alcohol less beer, etc. For others, it's worse to drink that because it reminds them of the feeling and makes them want to get trashed even more.
For the later, it's better to replace alcohol by something totally different, like smoking a cigarette or exercising. And drink water to stay hydrated.

>>9165233
>>LSD more harmful than shrooms
By an insignificant margin, but they couldn't put them on the same line just to please you
>>Ecstacy less harmful than K
Idk
>>Cannabis nearly as harmful to others as Tobacco
Have you tried driving a car after a cigarette and after a joint?
Picture related, you can't get through that high.

>>9165283
Could be brain damage.

>>9165398
2 weeks is a bit short for a beer fest. It's advised to keep cool until you feel confident about your sobriety and the brain fog disperses.
It also depends if you're with friends who know your problems, understand them, and will support you. And who'll be with you after the fest (to stop you from drinking at home as per old habits.)

There will be other fests this summer Anon.
You don't have to stay at home moping, find something pleasant to do. Or exhaust yourself and sleep.

I feel like the cashiers at LCBO are throwing subtle shade when they say "Enjoy your day! :)". Fuck you!

WOW I'm a drunk bboy.

>>9165476
>Could be brain damage.
So basically I'm fucked?

I've heard the muscle relaxant Baclofen can help with cravings and impulsiveness. I had a prescription for it once, it gives a nice mild buzz. I really need to quit alcohol and opiates for good, I feel like every withdrawal takes an irreplaceable piece of my soul.

>>9165272
As someone who has suffered a back injury and is (unfortunately) familiar with nerve damage, what exactly are your symptoms?

>>9165514
My left arm and leg are noticeably less sensitive than my right limbs, they just feel like they're not there and it takes slightly more effort to move them

>>9165524
I can still walk and pick shit up btw

>>9165505
naltrexone works great for some people. they think it has to do with a certain gene some alcoholics carry. if you do carry that gene it works for cravings. i take it. any day i take it is not hard to obstain. i drink about 2 times a week.

>>9165524
Okay, that doesn't sound promising, bro. The arm comes out of the C4 to C6 area in the spine, while the leg comes out of L3 to L5. This makes it unlikely that a pinched nerve is the problem as they generally don't share any commonality. Weakness that isn't mirrored also doesn't sound promising.

>>9165476
Im not a sociable man, this is probably the only "fest" ill go to this year or for the past few.

Thanks anon

Managed to go a full week of work without going to the shops and buying vodka. I've got 2 days off in 4 hours and gonna see if I can handle one night a week to get fucked. If this works, I.might have found the will to not be a daft cunt with alcohol... only took 10 years of drinking.

>>9165569
Fug, so I really am fucked? I don't live anywhere near a hospital either and I live by myself

Just completely destroyed a 7 year relationship and lost my apartment because of alcoholism. Had to move back in with my mom. She loves drinking with me so it doesn't seem like things will get brighter any time soon. Ive been dating someone new for about a month now and they've already told me I should cool it with the alcohol. I dont know how to stop and i dont really want to.

>>9165254
Did you even watch the literal first 5 seconds of the video? He was watching statistically which drugs are most harmful to the wide population of the FUCKING UK - if Heroin was pushed on the population (Like Alcohol) and sold at every street corner, it would be overly represented (Like Alcohol) by far.
>>9165476
>just to please you
anyone who's done both knows LSD is cleaner beyond a reasonable doubt.
>Idk
yes, you don't fucking k
>Have you tried driving a car after a cigarette and after a joint?
lmfao, a cigarette to a non-nicotine user is gonna affect your driving by far more than cannabis. nicotine with no or low tolerance = buzzed as fuck and sick.

>>9165583
I'd definitely suggest seeing a doctor. There might be another cause for the problems, but right now the symptoms are cause for concern.

>>9165476
>it's better to replace alcohol by something totally different, like smoking a cigarette

this actually isn't funny because of how actually retarded this is. i feel bad for you

>>9165600
>smack vs booze
So what? The current levels of damage are what need to be addressed, not some hypothetical nonsense.

>>9165600
>lmfao, a cigarette to a non-nicotine user is gonna affect your driving by far more than cannabis. nicotine with no or low tolerance = buzzed as fuck and sick.
Not the other guy, but I'd assume more people are driving with a signicicant cannabis high than people being buzzed off nicotine.

Think I need to start drinking more again

When I was drinking most nights I lost loads of weight because I skipped meals. But since I started going to work at 7am (necessitating being sober on weekdays) I've put on nearly 2 stone.

This is unacceptable

>>9165680
I gained shit loads when I turned full alcy mode

>>9165680
try to use your legs a bit during your adult life. its good for you AND burns calories

>>9164966
are there drunk alcoholic chicks posting in these threads or is the pic is just a bit of a change from all the rest of the google images? i wouldn't be surprised if there were drunk fat girls posting complaining about mindless crap all the time.

>>9165699
No drunk woman has ever been lonely or upset

They can't understand our pain

>>9165699
Once this shit gets a grip does it matter? It isn't glamorous in the slightest. It is good to talk to people who are in / have been in similar situations. No one here gives a shit what is between your legs.

never drinking again

>>9165713
>says increasingly nervous alkie for the 100th time this year

>>9165659
>more people die of old age. therefore, old age is more harmful than lung cancer
they should rename the graph Most Harmful Drugs (by numbers on the scale of the average person in an entire population) then

>>9165719
>old age
Can we please stop shitting up this thread before this gets out of hand? They're too valuable for this level of idiocy.

>>9165687
I weighed 10 stone when I was in uni, living on cream crackers and lager. Now I'm 14.5 on whisky and pizza.

>>9165689
I used to be in shape, but what's the point when I'm single and going to stay that way forever

2 more hours of hard labour and I can get home, sleep, wake up.and go buy a bottle of poison which I'll regret the next day.

>>9165792
How tall are you? 14.5 might not be awful if you are 6'2+

>>9165801
5' 11'

Its all fat

>>9165713
people like us HAVE to get drunk at least sometimes. anything is better than psychosis.

>>9165801
besides, if I was 6'2+ then being 10 stone would have been terrible

>>9165719
How many people have "old age" written on their death certificate? I'm willing to bet none in at least the last half a century. There is no such thing as death by aging.

>>9165820

I think you're pretty much right. I lost two relatives in the past year. Both were well into their 90's. One was listed as a stroke, the other was "complications due to esophageal cancer"

Get help people. I'm 8 months sober now. It took restricting access to alcohol for me. I hope at least some of you can find your way to quitting.

>>9165836
And do what instead? This is how I make the time pass quicker

>>9165786
>>9165820
I see absolutely no arguments

>>9165840
When you're an alcohol, it literally seems like a ridiculous notion that you could enjoy anything sober. That's the alcohol/brain fog/lack of self-respect from drinking talking.

You adapt. And once the fog wears off you just generally feel better.

>>9165840
self improvement. If not that you can still shitpost.

>>9165145
>tfw love the taste of a good slug of lukewarm vodka from the bottle

>>9165699
I always post in these threads. I'm 5'8 and 131 lbs and one of my biggest fears apart from being a total lonely failure is becoming fat, especially from alcoholism.

I lead a double life where everyone thinks I'm just a social binge drinker but I put whiskey in my coffee in the morning and I'm always full of anxiety unless I've got some alcohol in my system.

>>9165849
Good, because this is not the place for them.

>>9165898
Liberally made me fucking nearly sick at work thanks. Can't think of vodka it makes me physically ill.

People here seem to be genuinely unwell. Good luck and best wishes from /out/

>>9165928
>he's a Brown Liquor Nigger
>he thinks drinking whiskey or another polluted liquor makes him cultured

Vodka master race. Have fun with your fusel oils and methanol

>>9165934
A lot are, and a lot are recovering due to this place. I always browse this thread and give advice and stuff as I nearly died due to alcohol and lost everything. Doing so much better now and like to give a bit back.

Stick around man... there are some genuinely interesting people who post here, some die, some get better...it's a really special place on the chan.

>>9165957
It's more to do with abusing it for years and my body rejecting it rather than taste. I can't really do any spirits any more

>>9165978
oh, so you're a beer queer? or a wine swine?

lol

>>9165972
>the chan
Look, I like coming on these threads just as much as you or anyone else, and they do genuinely help me, but please don't ever call it that again

>>9166019
Chill. What an incredibly trivial point with which to take issue.
Not that anon btw, but dude, have another shot. Or one fewer.
>oh god, arguments afoot

>>9166038
I think you're the one who needs to chill, I was in no way upset...there are other boards where calling it "the chan" is a reference to a picture that got posted a lot. It's just a joke, nobody is having an argument except you. Chill.

>>9166061
Alright.

Catherine are you really here?
I've seen the subtle hints. They didn't go unnoticed. Give me a sign here and I'll know.

>>9166071
hey ;)

>>9166071
yes.

>>9165484
It's probably n-
>>9165524
Err, did you sleep on your side and your arm is "still sleeping", or is that a lasting thing?
Because if it doesn't go away by itself, it sounds like it can worsen terribly. See a doctor.

>>9165505
I tried baclofen. It didn't work as miraculously as with the doc who wrote about it, but it had some effects.
I stopped because it zombified me too much and didn't help enough with booze. I vape pot now...

>>9165571
It gets better. PAWS are a bitch, but it gets better.

>>9165574
>A week sober and he thinks he can drink without consequences
Go ahead, I can't stop you from learning from your mistakes.

>>9165699
>/ck/ has about 40% females and 50% males (self reported) iirc, one of the most girly board of 4chan
>Alcoholism is roughly 25/75 female/male
There are some femanon.
Rules of the internet still apply : There Are No Girls on the Internet.
We are all anonymous, who gives a fuck who's female, black, Hitler's clone, or whatever, our posts are valued by their content only, not who we are. And we value this anonymity.

>>9165860
Anhedonia is the inability to experience pleasure from activities usually found enjoyable, e.g. exercise, hobbies, singing, sexual activities or social interactions. While earlier definitions of anhedonia emphasized pleasurable experience, more recent models have highlighted the need to consider different aspects of enjoyable behavior, such as motivation or desire to engage in activities (motivational anhedonia), as compared to the level of enjoyment of the activity itself ("consummatory anhedonia").[1]
>Alcoholism is Hell

>>9166071
Hey, hello cousin.

>>9166102
I'm going to need something few if any others would know, lol. Should probably have specified that. You're smart enough to somehow work it into a post. I read every single al/ck/ post there is.

>>9166150
You know it'd be better to text "is that you posting on a food and cooking webforum?" to Cath?

>>9166197
Hi catheter, ditch this zero get with a hero

>>9165795
Hello brother, hope the f digits have been less than triple unlike me for the last month. At least I've been losing weight rather than gaining for a change.

so I'm 4 days into withdrawal again and still trying to drink it off, please let me die please....

>>9165860
That's the big problem with all benzos/muscle relaxants, they make you feel retarded. I suppose there's a price to pay for every chemical action you impose on the brain, it just sucks that there is no easy way to ease suffering.

Over a week sober at this point, but really feeling tempted to just down a couple shots tonight. I know I shouldn't - what good will it do me? Even if I stop it after a couple shots, I really will not enjoy it. I have to work tomorrow, and getting buzzed usually just makes me anxious. And there is always the possibility that I will end up drinking through the night and this will be yet another slippery slope. I do not want this. Stay strong tonight with me, guys.

>>9166127

>I stopped because it zombified me too much

that's the problem with all benzo's/muscle relaxers, they make you retarded. I suppose there is a price to pay for any chemical action taken on the brain, I just wish there was an easier way to ease suffering.

>>9165099
The Benzo bit is definitely wrong. You can black the fuck out and do some crazy shit if you take enough

>>9166379
Also trusting the BBC news wtf

>>9166379
>take xanax for first time
>wake up with cheese balls everywhere for some reason
>few days later look on my phone and have several pics of my friend lying on the kitchen floor with the bucket of cheese balls
>neither of us can remember it at all

>>9166400
Hahah Xanax fucks you up. Currently drinking cheap ass vodka at 2 in the morning with a few valium. Still depressed as fuck.

>>9166379
Benzo withdrawals are worse than opiates in my experience, they will also change your personality in strange ways. Nothing like waking up from a xanax/booze binge hearing about your wake of destruction.

>>9166410
Sim0donbro here. I have honestly been shocked by how many people from these threads mix and match benzos with booze.

It's not always instantly deadly but playing with fire for sure. If a person becomes physically addicted to both the withdrawal is some serious stuff.

>>9166450
*simpsonbro

>>9166446
that sounds terrifying

>>9166446
Totally true
>>9166450
And I'm addicted to both alcohol and benzos at the moment, it's the xanax that got me hooked. I started valium because of the long half life. Then they started to contain etizolam etc. So I'm back taking etizolam and some weird valium I have no idea what's in them. Withdrawals are hell on earth if you run out. I'm scared of dying

>>9166480
I highly recommend tapering, I stopped benzos cold turkey once and it was the worst hell ever, constant pain and completely unable to sleep for days.

If you have parents that legitimately care about you, and maybe 1 person who are "friends" that you see 5 times a year who you have a decent time with, but never really contact you otherwise,, does that qualify you as lonely?

I just want another person to be genuinely interested in who I am. I'm certainly not vanilla, and I learned how not to push people away via my actions in high school. I'm tired of doing college schoolwork in my room, then drinking to fill the day

>>9166557
it hurts my pride to seek attention on an Vietnamese cross stitching board, but I'm tired of crying

Day 17. Starting to get bored with perpetual sobriety.

>>9165005
>smirnoffbro

A literal who?

>>9166557
Lonely is a feeling, m8. Some people are lonely if they have to spend a day by themselves, some people can go without contact for months.

>tfw parents never drink minus a wine cooler or wine every once and a while
>tfw never drank underage
>tfw had my first drink at 21 and never got the appeal
>tfw not an alcoholic and life is good

Just stop drinking, faggots. It's not hard.

>>9166649
How would you know? You never started.

>>9166645
I have lots of friends, parents who love me, and girls who want the D, and I still feel lonely. I've only ever met one person who I didn't feel lonely with, but I can't hang out with her anymore.

>>9166655
I tried to be a cool little drinker in college, but it was pretty dumb desu. Even my friends who got shit faced on the weekends knew that they needed to stop. What is so hard.

I can out drink everyone here... I drink a pint of vodka 3 times a week...

>>9166667
When you know you need to stop, but you can't. Feelings of increasing anxiety start to take over and you become literally incapable of sitting down and doing anything without getting distracted until you start drinking again. You say you'll only have one, but one doesn't even do anything to you anymore. So it becomes two, three, four, five, six, etc.

>go to club
>drink alcopops all night because of the deals (3 for 5 quid)
>feel like shit because of all the sugar

I never learn

Just snorted some coke.

Am I officially off the deep end? I don't really even feel anything. A little bit happier but it might just be placebo.

>>9166790
coke is overrated as fuck, idk why you'd snort it though. i prefer pepsi

>>9166683
Oh yeah?

Well I ate a bowl of nails for breakfast.

>>9166790
Not really. "hard drugs" are a meme.

If you're mainlining it, or doing it on a regular basis, that's one thing. But a toot to keep your buzz going is meh.

7 days sober after a binge that ruined my life and my mom is demanding I go get her beer and she knows I'm tryin to stay clean. Ready to say fuck it, lads

>that painful choice of eating or keep drinking

>>9166848
Just have a couple of beers. It's not a big deal. Maybe drink with your mom so you can be social and not spiral out of control.

>>9166868
>be social
i literally can't even

>>9166800
So?

>>9166868
>>9166874
not him btw, just saying

>>9166150

;) How about our old secret passphrase snek snek pallidoo42

They moved me to a different room. The nurses are very chill and the whole floor is very quiet and peaceful

I wouldn't wish benzo wd on anyone.

>>9166976
Only a fool would get that deep into benzos!

>>9167005
yes I am a fool

Funny enough it wasn't recreational and was for a GI condition that's now 10000x worse in wd.

>>9167059
>doctors

not even once

>>9167065
if only I received this advice years ago

Seeing my GI doc again for alternative treatments tomorrow

Am I gonna regret it?

Could of lost my virginity tonight. A sexy looking slut exposed her pussy and tits, while I was at a stop sign. My dick turned to diamonds, but I freaked out and drove off like a autist. Now I am drunk and lonely

Lurker here. Go to work hungover more often than not. Hide booze and squirrel money away from wife to buy it. Drink at work quite often. Using this to cover nearly crippling anxiety and bouts of depression.

Drinking shitty vodka mixed with Virgil's root beer currently. Listening to Oneohtrix Point Never.

Just wanted to post for some reason. Fuck all.

>>9167069
they're probably gonna want to stick various things in your ass for $5000 and tell you to take probiotics and continue your prescription

some doctors are okay, your doctor sounds like a dumbass. GI doctors aren't the ones who should prescribe benzos. find a new one and see what they say

>>9167100
What's your job?

>>9167114

I work for a lending company and manage a department that ensures the collateral is valued properly. Extremely good pay. I get depressed quite often as I consider what I do as bullshit and worthless.

>>9167109
Probably, this is a new one. Usually I'm just dismissed for not being geriatric or obese. Last doc I saw said my problem requires surgery but the surgery would have a high risk of the problem reoccurring as well as chronic back pain.

Oh well I just want the pain of this wd to stop. I'm only seeing this doc because my friends and family are convinced some doctor will be able to help.

>>9167134
Well if you think it's worthless, it probably is, since you valuate things for a living...

>>9167155

Good point. I just see doctors, researchers, etc., and realize I'm doing nothing to advance or protect anybody. Just take their money.

>>9167172
Don't be naive, friend. There is nobody out there who gives a shit about protecting people or advancing anything. They do it for themselves. Doctors are some of the biggest scum in the world. They artificially lower the number of available residencies so that there's always a shortage of doctors so that they can get that nice 200k minimum salary. Those poor researchers though. Slaving away in the lab and still staying under the poverty line.

>>916718

I give a shit and I'm actually the antithesis of that. However you may likely be right. I don't know. My doctor is sort of a dick.

Is The Fellowship of the Ring the comfiest movie to watch whilst drinking?

>>9167211
more like bad santa

>>9167211
I usually just smoke while watching LOTR and pretend I'm a hobbit.

Comedies for when I'm drunk.

>>9167231

I like to imagine living in the shire, having endless fields of green grass and ancient forests to wander, nothing to do but read and learn. Then i realize id likely spend all day indoors drunk.

>>9167218
Oh shit so true. Fuck the sequel tho

>>9167287
i'll never bring myself to watch the sequel because i know it will ruin bad santa for me forever

>john ritter dead
>bernie mac dead
>no cloris leachman

>>9167333
Let me fix you some sandwhiches. I actually heard really good things about it so I watched it. I remember thinking it was terrible but I don't remember of course because I was wasted

Fuck a taper, fuck getting better.

I've finally come to terms with the fact that I'm going to drink myself to death. Cheers.

>>9167365
Can you PayPal me some money then?

I just polished off a 750ml over the course of today which is considerably less than the liter and a half of vodka I was doing per day for the last few months
Gonna buy another 750ml tomorrow, decant about 5 shots and then drink as much as I need to keep myself from dying, then the next day I will do the same but decant a few more shots each time. I'm hoping in a week or so I'll be drinking beers to keep the shakes off. Hopefully from there I can moderate my drinking to not be an everyday occasion.

>>9167365
Same. Withdrawing is too horrific, continuing is too comfy. What is life for if not to be comfy?

If my bins aren't emptied and dishes aren't done soon, I think this house is going to become entirely organic, come to life and begin evolving. I'm scared to even open my bedroom door because of all the flies in other rooms. I really fucking need help with everyday maintenance of my house as well as my health.
I'd give anything to have an gril. If she got me through this and I managed to escape the nightmare, I'd be so grateful that she would basically fucking own me. I'd not lay coats in puddles, I'd lay myself in them, let her stomp every step while walking over me, and encourage it should it be her wish, to jump repeatedly on my dick, liver and eyeballs in the process.

>>9165703
Diseases don't give a rats patootie if you're a broad or a dude. If anything, being a female alcoholic has way more of a harder stereotype.

In b4, fat-hag status et al. I'm a petite bombshell. Hate boozing, yet can't control the urges and hence am on this thread the same as y'all.

>>9167564
Slow and steady wins the race. Goob job m8

>>9165030
>>9165041
>>9165076
Well I'm a bit retarded. I buy a gallon of vodka for ~$20 with tax. Mix is diet shit.
I cannot sleep if I'm sober.
I take the handle and portion it in three bottles.
It's good for me (I think) because I will def go through a fifth of bourbon in a night.
I'm trying to be better, but I'm def old fag (45+) and just trying to be better to myself.

>tfw going to a shrink today sober

Scary desu.

>>9167707
>petite bombshell
Oh god here we go.
Gentlemen please don't go all /b/ over this anon. I'm happy to know that there's someone here who would describe herself in such a way and this isn't the place for arguing over who gets to wank over the most furiously. Please lets try to keep it together. I'm managing to fight the urge to go all /b/tard and ask for pics, and you're talking to a guy who hits on pretty much every hot girl he sees.

Anyway... anon I agree with you that alcoholism is no less horrific for girls than it is for guys. You're in the same amount of pain I expect. I don't think it's a harder stereotype, I think we're all equally screwed and i wish you the best of luck in any attempts you make to escape.

>>9167723
How? I can't even fucking speak if I'm sober, i can't even go to court sober

>>9167724
The last thing anyone here needs is to date someone who drinks as much as themselves anyway.

>>9167729
Drinking buddy relationships kinda work in a stumbling, unsatisfactory way, it's when one manages to get sober that it's pretty much guaranteed to be the end of the line

>>9167724
>>9167724
Jezus christ.
you're drunk. Go to bed.
Don't wake up, please.

You've lost it all, and there are pills you can take that will help you on your way.

>>9167728
Just trying to power through it I guess. I always have a plastic shopping bag in my hand when I go somewhere because sometimes my anxiety gets so bad that I literally start throwing up. I'm two weeks sober but shaking like a leaf as if withdrawinv and didn't sleep from anxiety. I fucking hate being around people.

>>9167733
I just recognise how fragile these threads could be and I think it's important to protect their integrity. I'd be ruined if the culture of this environment were to be polluted by the kind of things we typically see on 4chins.

>>9167724
Well stated. Having some post-cringe in me even stating what I did, just need to ignore silly anon remarks of what they imagine as alc women.

>>9167736
I threw up in front of a nice looking gril literally 21 minutes ago on my way back from the shop. She was in office girl style attire and looked at me as if I was an absolute fucking peasant. Think she thought I was homeless. Felt like apologising and trying to explain, but I probably stink, I was shaking like crazy and it'd likely have just scared her.
I mean nobody any harm, but I cannot seem to avoid acting like a total fucking vagrant.

>>9167729
Completely concur. One drunk is enough for any relationship.

>>9167754
Sitting in a waiting room right now going into some sort of pani attack with people looking at me. Life is suffering.

>>9167769
Tap yourself. May sound innane, but tapping yourself in areas you feel anxious has shown signs of relief.

>>9167769
We're here, anon. Fingers crossed for you. What you're doing might conceivably cure you and avoid a fucktonne of future complications. The anxiety will pass.

>>9167769
Watch this. This doc knows his shiz when it comes to dealing with anxiety disorders.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=g_mFzOudxng

>buy a bottle of vodka as housewarming gift
>end up drinking it
>had to rush to the store in the morning for another one
This is the life

The heartburn never ends. Vomiting feels like a trillion fire ants all biting me at once as they exit my stomach at 1000mph. I think I might cry.

I did a good job tapering the past few days. Then when I got into bed, I got this bizarre urge to read through my ex's messages between us two years ago when we stopped talking. Now i drank half a bottle. GOD DAMN IT. It's 5 am how the fuck am I gonna sleep now

>>9167731
>one manages to get sober
Or more often I imagine, they die young, poisoned and hated by everyone but eachother.

>>9167831
Is that the 70s version of romeo and juliet

>>9167834
>nods

>>9167831
I can see why she liked him. Damn.

>>9165477
>cashiers saying anything to you
That should be illegal

>>9167860
>when the bitch who cards you at self checkout mentions your alcoholism

>>9167776
>>9167779
>>9167787
Thanks senpai, I saw the (You)'s going in there, felt good.

This was the follow up after the other doctor so I just got formally diagnosed with social anxiety disorder, alcohol use disorder and schizoid personality disorder.

Now it's up to me if I want drugs and therapy. Need to think on that for a bit.

>>9167860
Doesn't bother me any more. Alcoholism is impossible to hide for long. I got past the point of horrifying levels of embarrassment years ago. Now I know the local shop so well I've even begun learning the damn language. Vanakam!

>>9165477
I used to work as a cashier and certain greetings etc. just come out automatically.
I once said something like "thank you, come again" instead of "goodnight" to my mother when I was visiting. Shit just slips out, man.
They have their own lives to worry about and the see all sorts come through every day. You don't matter as much to them as you fear.

>>9165272
Neuropathy is a common side effect of alcohol abuse. I'd still advice you to see a doctor about it but I know that's a serious expense for some people.

>>9165111
Delet

>>9167904
I have this too lmao

to the point where when I didn't come into the shop for the weekend the guy came and knocked at my door to see if I was still alive

he also tries to get me to taper off in his own way, suggesting beer instead of gin or deliberately always picking out smaller bottles than the ones I usually get

bless him

>>9165597
Naltrexone. its not THE answer, but it takes away physical cravings.

>>9167365
you should smoke cigarettes, it's great

I got so drunk on Tuesday night I missed a job interview the next morning. Was supposed to get up at 7:30, but drank until around 3AM.
Also got drunk yesterday and I have loads to do today but don't feel like doing anything of that due to the hangover. My friend invited me to a party at his workplace tonight, which offers a buffet, which means free drinks.

Also I've been preparing patties in bulk so I can eat burgers for breakfast to sober up again. Unfortunately I just ate the last one and have no idea what to eat now.

>>9167828
hahahahahahahhaahhahahaahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahha

>>9168135
drinking and passing out and missing interviews is the shit. im currently doing just that. amazon fulfillment center job, part time. 4 hours a day, 5 days a week. doesnt that sound shitty? who the fuck wants to dedicate 5 days a week to a part time job. fuck those niggers.

>>9165708
all the drunk whores i've known had cuck boyfriends that would buy them alcohol everyday, and they'd go to the bar and fuck marines for free booze anyways.

>>9168142
4 hour shifts are great. You basicallly show up and then it's time to go home (liquor store)

>>9168142
I'm in school and have a scholarship, so I didn't really need the job. I don't have any experience in my field of study though, and figured it would look nicer on a resume to have that job on there instead of nothing.
Also I just puked out my patty. Not sure if it was because of the alcohol, or if the patty had gone bad. As far as I could tell, I didn't puke out the rest of the burger.

>>9168224
for the worker its good, i guess. for the employer its a wet dream. no bennies, no OT
>>9168226
usually its just the alcohol. drink a little water to make up for the lost fluids.

>>9168226

What are you studying anon? I most definitely refined my alcoholism at school.

>tfw drinking before lab

>>9167724
Nobody said anything about her being a girl before you, so maybe people aren't as bad as you think. Don't point it out if you don't feel it should be pointed out.

>>9168231
Been drinking a good amount of water already.

>>9168253
[nospoiler]East Asian Studies.[/nospoiler]
School keeps my alcoholism in check actually, nothing gives me a worse conscience han missing class due to alcohol.

>>9166019
I used it ironically but I feel you.

Made some new friends recently, not all like the old ones I have. Real nice and gentle people who don't drink and work hard, somehow get along with them.

Decide to stay sober the entire weekend so that I can hang out with them, feel good about it.

>Last minute change of plans and they have to do other things.
>Hurry to the store and lots of alcohol.
>Just had DT last night so that I could be sober today with them.
>This is just sad.

>>9167847
OWO

I've been awake for 18 hours now. This is a short term record for me. I wonder when the hallucinations will start to kick in.

>>9168683
For me, hallucinations set on around 20 hours depending on how much I've drank and how long ago
If I'm still drinking constantly they set on a bit later.

>>9168703
I haven't even been drinking. If I did, I'd have passed out a long time ago. I'm on some next cocktail of drugs.

>>9168715
Ahh good luck anon
whatchya takin?

>>9168723
Trying coke for the first time. Probably my last time too since it's not really that great. Doesn't really do much of anything. Just makes my heart rate go up a bit and suppresses my appetite. Every other thread on /ck/ is just gross to me right now. I have been extremely productive though.

I've thrown up four times today at work, and it just hit lunchtime. Got too drunk at a buddy's house last night, went home and got yelled at by my dad for being drunk.

Hangovers suck. For me, I got drunk off a 14% four loko gold and a couple of 8% natty daddys.

do dis

https://books.google.com/books?id=9-6rutN27DkC&pg=PT56&lpg=PT56&dq=gary+null+encyclopedia+alcoholism&source=bl&ots=V_WeD6p-3B&sig=tI3M-dwyR_IIWSm1SVkYPbwyokI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQoOWIlInVAhUi5oMKHXe4CFkQ6AEIKzAB#v=onepage&q=gary%20null%20encyclopedia%20alcoholism&f=false

>>9168769
>>https://books.google.com/books?id=9-6rutN27DkC&pg=PT56&lpg=PT56&dq=gary+null+encyclopedia+alcoholism&source=bl&ots=V_WeD6p-3B&sig=tI3M-dwyR_IIWSm1SVkYPbwyokI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQoOWIlInVAhUi5oMKHXe4CFkQ6AEIKzAB#v=onepage&q=gary%20null%20encyclopedia%20alcoholism&f=false

>>9168759
tits or gtfo

>>9168783
I'm not a high level alcoholic yet. My tolerance is still growing.

>>9165583
Hope I ain't too late on replying to you but if you live on your own and not near a hospital you absolutely need to a see a doc. I have a mate who is a cop and he got a call out to a dead body where this dude had eaten a bad piece of frozen homebrand fish and died from food poisening because he was on his own and didn't try and get any help. He literally shit his guts out

>tfw no explosives
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-4b93a2f4f9cc7b3a9ccc78ea0eebd2bc-c

>29 days since last drink
>seem to get more tired and angry every day
>quit drinking, you'll feel great, they said
Bullshit. Think I'll have a few this weekend and see how I feel.

>>9164966
I have a question for you guys.

Dudes don't use makeup, Why do girls use makeup? who cares.

>>9168875
You might not notice, but your brain did.

What's your favourite cognac

>>9165099
>harm to others
I wish this was split into 3 charts, two for the individual damages and one combined
Furthermore just stating shit like this without an objective scale makes no sense

>>9165099
This is going to be skewed due to the popularity of certain drugs over others. Of course alcohol is at the top, its fucking legal.

>>9168875
To not look like us.

Wish I could see a couple of pics of you femanalcks before I go and jump in front of a train. Only got booze money for about 18 more hours and if I'm sober I won't have the strength to walk to the tracks.

Any tips for a 19 year old boy turning 20 next week? I'm starting to become more and more accustomed to "alcohol culture". I work at a decent restaurant where I have drinks served to me quite frequently. I'd say I have at least one drink a day about 3 or 4 days a week. I'm approaching the legal drinking age here and I'm wondering what I can do to make sure my life goes alright?

>>9169060
Your post is so fucking adorable, what the fuck

>>9168773
It's a google book page, the URL starts with books.google.com It's safe
It's The Complete Encyclopedia of Natural Healing by Gary Null, if you want to search it yourself.
I have no idea why the other drunk shared this.

>>9168951
I saw these graphs some time ago, maybe not same study. Or maybe less shitty clickbait news site that actually looked at studies before publishing about it.

>>9168996
>train suicide
>not rush hour

Wasted death

bought 1.75 liter vodka last evening. already down to the last 200ml. no bueno.

>>9169062
I don't mean to be coy or anything. I'm scared. The world keeps turning and time keeps pushing forward. I don't want to lose myself to the evil of this world. The pain I have experienced and witnessed because of drugs and alcohol makes me wonder what I can do to make sure I'll be just fine and keep the people I love safe from myself and my choices.

>>9168996
Don't do it, anon. Suicide by train has a huge failure rate. Do you want to lose a few limbs or get fucked up and have to live an even worse life? Go to sleep.

>>9167724
>If anything, I'll be the one in the kitchen!

>>9169060
And I did hard science at a top institute in a top place at top university. A few years down the road people look at my life and it all seems pretty very good.

But from the inside there isn't much difference from any other loser. I'm spending most days thinking about killing yourself and it is pretty much the same. I would trade everything for the slightest glimmer of hope.

>>9169129
I spend most days thinking about killing you also.

>>9169127
>lets ruin these threads and turn it into another /b/-esque bratfest

>>9169136
I mean as long as anyone of us completes the mission.

I miss my car so fucking much
Omfg.

Thinking about buying a very fast classic motorbike, taking off the plates and simply accelerating like fuck if the police suspect that I'm (one of those guys who indeed is) banned (again) from driving

I need to get out of here

>>9169114
Head on the rail, how hard is that. No way you survive

>>9169157
This isn't the same colour, but I have my finger hovering over 'buy it now' for a slightly older model of this fireblade.
Can you even imagine being on a motorway on the beast of a thing, while coupled with a sincerely held belief that you'll soon die, so who fucking cares if you're doing 200mph with the police behind?
Better than sex. I am convinced. I am so fucking tempted to do this.

>>9169129
What makes me feel hopeful is the true love, trust and the peace I've felt in my life previously. I know that those feelings exist, maybe not in how my words describe them or how I can express in any way, but they exist and I know that I can feel them again so I work hard every day to make sure I can feel that again and share it with others, the people I have met along the way and the people I haven't met yet. It doesn't matter if it's been a long time since I've felt it. It doesn't matter how many times I've thought of quitting in the past. I never have and you haven't either. It doesn't matter who has gone and left from your life. It doesn't matter how lonely you think you are and will be. It doesn't matter how many opportunities you think you've missed in the past. All of your lived experiences have lead you to be who you are at this very moment and you have the power and control to steer your life into a world you thought could only exist in your dreams. You have to be willing to acknowledge that this power is yours though. You have to be willing to accept that your life is how it is now because of you and nobody and nothing else. You are the moderator of your own life. Only you. You are so valuable that the universe decided to make just one of you. Maybe U should act like it

>>9169199
Somebody clearly slipped this man some ecstacy.

>>9169157
Had to sack a guy because he got banned from driving recently

felt bad man

>>9169211
I am sober you litle bitch............

>>9165111
I did not ask for a feels trip

>>9169192
>how hard is that
the natural response to move at the last second. it's real

>>9169199
hahaha I'm not laughing at you but I'm reading the brothers Karamazov at the moment. If we skip the whole tragic existence and so on. You make me think of Alexei Fyodorovich Karamazov ( The hero ).

>>9169241
thank you

>>9168938
martell vsop desu

Any of you lads have any experience with SSRI's? They want to drug me.

>>9169332
I'd stay away if you can. I gained weight, sex drive crashed and sometimes feel like an automaton.
Saying that, they really helped my anxiety.

>>9169332
I would beware if I were you.

>>9169332
can be good in moderation, and not for more than 3-6 months, but it depends on brain x drug

don't let them put you on a high dose to start, that kind of retarded shit will fuck you up my friend

Do you guys have friends?

I think it's the pure, distilled retardation my friends and our gang come up with that keep me on an even keel.

Step 5. I've gone further, and that's a dark, dark hole, had to reel it back in. If any of you regulars remember, I just took the day off on Wednesday as an excuse to drink because my cousin who I was very close with exit bagged in a grocery store parking lot.

The drunken gallows humor generated off that has been better than any degree-carrying therapist could issue.

>>9169416
I don't have friends but it was that way before the alcohol too.
I do have drinking buddies, but I often switch bars once people start getting close to me because I'm an autist

>>9169332
Fucking don't. Playing with your brain's neurochemicals and changing its baseline (can't remember the technical term for the life of me right now) is playing with fire.

>>9169332
I wasn't a big fan. When I took them for depression it helped with depression to some extent but it fucking killed my sex drive and caused me to put on weight.

The other night I went to a bar and drank like 12 pints after ehaving 6 12 oz at home. I embarassed myself completely. I was talking to random people and hugging them. I also lost 100 dollars on the slot machines. This reminds me of why I usually drink alone. Gonna drink tonight to get rid of the embarassed feeling. Has this ever happenend to any of you?

:(

>>9169451
>Has this ever happenend to any of you?
embarrass yourself while drunk? yes. shit goddamn yes

>>9169353
>Saying that, they really helped my anxiety.
That's why they want to put me on it. I think I'll give sobriety and proper food, exercise and sleep a chance first though.

>>9169428
HOMEOSTASIS. There, just remembered the word.

>>9169332
They don't work very well and have a ton of side effects. I'm off them now but my sexual drive is completely destroyed permanently. Stay away.

>>9169451
Nope. Probably the worst was falling asleep on a bar with my friend in the band, but my buddies said, "Hey, you technically overserved him. So what do you want us to do?" Got home fine.

>>9169451
maybe when I was in uni, I got thown out of bars and spent the night sleeping under a bench a lot

What is this tapering shit ? Have some will, cold turkey yourself and get your life back under control.

>>9169510
It's an excuse to keep drinking desu.

>>9169353
>>9169363
>>9169394
>>9169428
>>9169438
>>9169473
Thanks, lads. You're confirming my suspicions. More of a last resort type of thing then I guess.

Alone and sober on a friday night. Really strong cravings atm.

>>9169510
some people can and do die from sudden withdraw

I CANT DO THIS
PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME

>>9169549
have a beer anon, it'll all be ok

>>9169510
You're fuckin stoopid m8. Have fun with your alcoholic brain kindling.

>>9167172
Being a doctor is a meme, they take people's money just like any other profession. You shouldn't hold yourself to story book standards like that thinking that those kinds of careers are the only ones that help people. Besides, your still operating under the health care system which is designed to rob people. It's all the same in the end, just work a job that you are good at and that will support you and your wife or whoever else you care about.
>>9167189
Also this.

>>9169510
Going cold turkey literally causes brain damage.

>>9169529
Hang in there man, had some cravings today myself but if we are both being honest with ourselves, the results of having a drink tonight are not worth it. Think of all the harm it leads to

fuckig hell m8s I can feel the end is near

>>9169774
when one bottle ends, another gets opened

the cycle continues

>>9169465
There are many SSRI molecules, and everybody don't react the same way to each.
Google the names and read by yourself, some doctors are idiots and/or assholes. Also don't fall for conspiratard blogs that claim they're all bad because one in a billion fucked up.

They gave me a "mild" one, that work rather well. Helped me finish that school year, but I quit after a few months as I was going better. I think I used it another time, worked to some extend for a few months.
I tried another one, more uplifting (not sure of the terminology), but it almost made ma maniac. It was a bit like I was on coke. I quit promptly. It's not the usual reaction.

I don't think it changed my libido much, but it made it harder to cum, so I lasted longer.

It's for giving you a few months of not feeling so horribly bad you can't do shit, to get out of the situation that makes you feel bad. Then you should quit them when you have build the foundations for your well-being.
If you can take care of the foundations without them, it's even better, so good luck for a proper sleep hygiene. Install f.lux. Stay sober.

>>9169780
I meant my life

>>9169814
as long as you're drinking, you're alive

>>9169820
That's the problem, I'm not

>>9169843
ghosts can't post

live and drink with us anon

>on antidepressants
>on benzos
>having nightmares regularly
>start having the worst nightmares ever
>waking up hyperventilating and gasping for air
>after few of such occurrences realize that the horrible night terrors are due to alcohol withdrawal
I really wanted to stop, I thought I don't have a problem like if I'm just drinking to kill the time just to realize I've been doing that for the last 2 years

Guys I want to get out of this

24 hours awake now.

I can tell I'm starting to get fucked up because I actually tried to work on my appearance. Shaved, put on nice clothes, even put some makeup on to cover up the scar on my neck from the "accident". Still look like shit.

Why do drinks at the bar taste way better?

I bought the same cider I had on wednesday night that I really liked at the bar. Drinking it now. It SUCKS. Very strange.

>>9169933
>on one of my not-drinking stints
>sleep paralysis
>this annoying bitch keeps standing by my bed, drancing, waving her hands
>fuck off night hag
>fuck, after the 4th time, I go to the living room on the couch
>THAT BITCH FOLLOWS ME IN AND DOES HER BOOGALOO THERE TOO

Protip: Sleep with a pillow or cover over your eyes to shoo that mare away.

>>9169937
couldve been the preparation. at the bar i work at i find that drinks taste slightly different from how im used to having them because they get watered down after being shaken with ice etc or probably was just psychological for an easier answer

>>9169943
That doesn't help, I've had my share of night paralysis and covering your eyes doesn't fight your fear and feeling of presence in the room even-though you can rationalize it later
Just want to stop drinking, I can go three days maximum without thinking about it but the fourth day all my thoughts are focused on getting some booze

>>9164966
Live-in GF just confronted me last nigh after years of stealth alcoholism. I promised to stop drinking, which, ya know, makes sense when you're wasted.

I have 2 nutcrackers, jsut finishing the second and that's got me to afunctioning level but I'm scared this is the start of a life of hiding just to function. SHe knows how I get when I've had too much, but not that I need Some to function.

RIP

>>9169961
u gotta be open and honest or be ready to lose her.... or u kno just find out what happens

>Had a really nice dream where at the end I was chugging beers from a six pack
>They were cherry flavoured I think
>For some reason thought I had a six pack at home
>Woke up
>There was no six pack
>There was never a six pack
>Disappointment
>Went and chugged water instead
>Still dehydrated

Even my dreams make me feel like shit

I'm having a tough time right now but I won't let it stop me

I'll pick myself back up, piece by piece and drinking and crying won't solve my issues.

>Pickyourselfup

>>9170039
Crying is for women, anon...

It's amazing how many ABBA songs I love when I'm drunk``

>>9170058
thanks

I'm going to keep picking up the pieces

>>9170076
Not ABBA, but got this bad boy on drunken loop right now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgs9QUtWc3M

29 days sober. Still in the hospital but leaving soon and happy about it.

I've been listening to a lot of audio books and pod casts to entertain myself

>>9170088
>cher

git gud at drunkenness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV4smtJrIOM

>>9169933
Benzo and alcohol have the same withdrawals.
You'll need medical help to rehab.

>>9169956
Withdrawals are maximum around day 3-4. Have you tried tapering?

>>9169961
You won't hide it for long.
Talk to her, pray she'll be understanding and helpful.

>>9170106
>Have you tried tapering?
I can't, if I'm going to drink I'm just going to get the amount that gets me passed out

>>9170124
Try limiting the amount you have available each day. And/or switch to beer, it has a built-in limit to the amount you can drink.
Going cold turkey is dangerous, so the other solution is to switch to benzo and taper them. That's what they do in medical rehab.

One week sober now. It hasn't been very hard this time, but sleep is still generally not happening and I'm getting these little muscle spasms a lot. I was recently checked out for some joint issues and inflammation so I'm not supposed to drink. But I honestly don't know if I'll make it another week without at least having something.

>>9169782
Thanks for the elaborate response m8.

The thing is, I'm not depressed but I'm a recluse and they want to prescribe it for society anxiety.

>>9170094
good job m8.

i'm 18 days in myself. the booze life already feels like another lifetime far away, pretty weird how distant it feels.

>>9170160
Just realized by posting this how much I want a drink right now after 7 days. The thing is it wouldn't be a problem but my mother came up to visit me and fuckin knows how I am, so I really can't go out anywhere without her because she'll immediately know what I'm doing if I go out alone. The only way I'll be able to is to order a drink right in front of her if we go out to dinner. I'm literally slumped over on the couch not wanting to do a single thing.

>>9170136
I'm already on a lot of benzos and only alc I drink is beer

>>9170208
Play cards or a board game after going out to eat that does serve booze


Make some mock-tails

>>9170231
*does not

Any of you alcy bros play ps4?

>Upgraded to vodka

Doesn't have the same feel as sipping beer

Why do my hangovers get worse as the day goes on? Fifth of vodka last night and i feel like absolute hell.

>>9170164
Oh. I've been the one in several millions for this one. It was bad. (Don't even want to remember the pills' name)
I drank over a pint of vodka a day and was under high doses of Baclofen, so it may be the mix.
Look into mindfulness, meditation, EMDR, they're all better long term when used correctly. CBD or medical marijuana may help.

>>9170208
What's your sleep hygiene like?
You body doesn't learn how to sleep boozeless by itself (it forgot somehow), you need to spend a wef weeks taking care of going to sleep on time, avoiding screens before bedtime, installing f.lux, tiring yourself during the day with physical activity, all that crap. Also melatonin.
Yes, the first few months of sobriety are a pain. But hey, you're not pissing blood.

>>9170225
Look for a rehab place. Poly drug use is common enough, it'll be easier with a doctor to talk to, possibly as inpatient.

>>9170295
That's withdrawals, not hangover.
Welcome to hell. You won't like it.

>>9170300

Fuck

>>9170300
>Look into mindfulness, meditation, EMDR, they're all better long term when used correctly. CBD or medical marijuana may help.
I'm trying to start to get a meditation habit going again and am working on diet, sleep and exercise. The EMDR and CBD are interesting, I didn't consider those.

Good advice, thank you.

>Heartburn from vodka

REMOVE
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>>9170292
Now begins your descent into the abyss. Vodka is made for one purpose and one purpose only: to fuck you up.

>>9170292
Nigga are you really sipping vodka straight up? Mix it with seltzer water or La Croix with ice. Peak buzz and doesn't interfere with your stomach like other drinks so you can eat all the drunk food you want.

>>9170300
f.lux master race, forgot it's even working.

been sober about 4 weeks now, was feeling groggy and tired and crappy all the time despite getting to bed about 10pm and sleeping pretty solidly till like 7am most nights, which is a bunch of sleep, so anyway last week i quit playing with my thing and quit looking at porno, and now i wake up at like 6am and actually get out of bed and feel human for once instead of being some zombie creature till like 930 am. my only real vice left is staying up all night on the weekend and dipping like a maniac, which i think i will cut down on and eventually quit, but that should be easier now that im not playing with my thing all day long and feel crappy all the time pretty cool huh oh well take it easy guys

>>9170360
Nah I'm drinking good vodka, it doesn't feel like drinking gasoline even when it's warm

>>9170374
To add, no fucking reason why I'm having fucking heartburn
it shouldn't happen man
SHOULDN'T HAPPEN

>>9170374
I drink the good shit once in a blue moon and I still mix it
>>9170379
maybe this is why you have heartburn, because you take vodka straight to the dome like a maniac

>>9170379
>>9170374
im tellin ya famm, get yourself a case of this and mix it with vodka. best /sip/ of all time

>>9170374
>it doesn't feel like drinking gasoline even when it's warm
It's still 40% ethanol, it doesn't matter much what the other 60% are. So dilute the poison that's in your stomach. Drink water, plenty, and eat solid food.

And tonic water is best mixer.
La Croix is a brand of bleach and cleaning products in France, I'd never trust >>9170388

>>9170461
>>9170388
I don't drink sugar, even when it's dilated in alcohol
It's why I can never mix alcohol with anything, everything has fucking sugar in it.
I'm also surprised how well I'm writing considering how much I've had to drink. But I think that's just experience right. I used to fall fat on my face on my keyboard after a few beers just, fuck, 6 years ago, I thought it was 3;

>>9170474
la croix has no sugar
>>9170461
nigga tonic water is nasty as fuck and has sugar

how drunk are you?

>>9170474
Yeah, tolerance raises. It only goes up, and never stops.

>>9170477
Was drinking a litre of 37.5% vodka or gin per day when I enjoyed tonic.
It's not a comfy thing, it's more about self hatred.

>>9170292
I'm so very sorry

Am I gonna have a worse time drinking straight vodka or mixing it up with something, in terms of hangover and smelling like shit?
I've got nothing to mix it up with and want to enjoy a little buzz tonight. Wat do?

hey friends, I got a bottle of gin and a bottle of kraken rum with several cans of diet soda (cherry, ginger ale, reg. coke) the cherry is diet cherry coke.

what should I start with?

thanks

fuck everything rn just wanna get drunk and eat chips and order pizza bros

>>9170555
Lucky you. I don't know. Just fucking drink that shit. I like kraken the best though so I'd prioritize that when gauging stomach potential.

>>9170231
I resisted and just had a glass of water.
>>9170300
Yeah I've had flux installed for a number of years now. The feeling of earlier luckily passed and I'm going to have a comfortable night without drinking. The urge was really significant before dinner though. I just thought to myself even if you have a drink at dinner it's not going to do anything for you just being one and you'll just wish you had more ultimately. Everything turned out.

>>9170555
If you're really determined to have both kinds of liquor I'd start with the gin first.
I don't really get wanting to drink more than one variety per night though.

>>9170548
If you seriously don't have any juice or anything you could chase shots of it with ice water.

>tfw four days sober, registered for fall classes, and starting counseling on Monday
I'm not trying to brag, I'm not better than you guys, but small victories.

>>9170690
>>9170690
i'm sticking with the gin for now, thanks mates

never had it before

it tastes like nothing
feels good man

why do people hate gin

>>9170844
>>9170844
>>9170844

I just keep doing stupid shit drunk.

Its not even fun anymore.