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Food gore thread.

>> No.8359589
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8359589

>>8359582
I hope you have more. Am looking for gore food.
Each time my mother-in-law send me facebookshit I send her gore food.

>> No.8359594

>>8359589
What happened here? It looks like somebody baked it with cling film over the top.

>> No.8359595

>>8359582
That one probably tastesbetter than it looks.

>> No.8359596
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>>8359594
it pretty sums it up I think

>> No.8359602

>>8359594

>cling film

fuck off brits

>> No.8359606

>>8359602
>complaining about a word

fuck off basement dweller

>> No.8359611
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>> No.8359612

>>8359594
>>8359606
Clover was a bad idea

>> No.8359614
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>> No.8359617

>>8359594
Pretty sure it's vegan "cheese"

>> No.8359619

>>8359582

what is that when you put chicken, cream and spinach together. That's a thing..

>> No.8359623

>>8359611

choke upgraded to gag.

>> No.8359654

>>8359582
>food gore

Fucking Raymond Blanc has made something similar. Chicken poached in cream sauce or some shit. There's more to food than ramen and mcchicken for fucks sake.

>> No.8359670
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8359670

>yummy

>> No.8359672

>>8359654

as usual it's the tyranny of camera flash.

>> No.8359707

>>8359670
it looks like chicken noodle soup

>> No.8359710
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8359710

Anyone got the Brazilian dude making a pizza and piling on mash potatoes with a shit ton of mayo and cheese?

>> No.8359721

>>8359710
i need to see that

>> No.8359752

>>8359670
to be fair, soups aren't the most photogenic food item. that still looks midwest as fuck though.

>> No.8359761

>>8359611
>>8359614
>>8359670
If you niggers wouldn't eat these, you should tie a rock to your ankle and jump into the lake most approximate to you.

>> No.8359781

>>8359582
That's sick bruh

>> No.8359881
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>>8359710
No but I have this

>> No.8359890

>>8359670
>/ck/ is too good for chicken soup now

>> No.8359924

>>8359890
if its not a Mc Chiken, ramen or shitli its too much for /ck/

>> No.8359936

>>8359881
Seriously, what is this?

>> No.8360047
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>>8359589
That looks like the frozen carcass from The Thing if you took a cut off it and baked into a shitty pizza.

>> No.8360057
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>>8359936
some tostilocos inspired shit seems like

>> No.8360063

>>8359670
Looks like soup.

>>8359761
That corndog looks like a soft turd.

>> No.8360107

>>8360063
>implying you wouldn't

nigga plz

>> No.8360181

>>8359617
>>8359594
Looks like cheap American cheese.

>> No.8360194

>>8359594
That's what happens when you bake "pasteurized process cheese product."

>> No.8360308

>>8359936
Mexican "Cuisine"

>> No.8360354

>>8359670
Looks like soup retard

>> No.8360487
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>>8359881

>> No.8360495

>>8359594
looks like pre-packaged cheese slices were used

>> No.8360697
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>> No.8360703

>>8359582
Don't worry, he meant Tucson, not Tuscan, that's an authentic American dish from Arizona

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>>8360697
>>8360487
>>8360057

Mexican here, this is a pretty new trend that i frankly don't understand.

There's this new meme that everyone fucking loves acidic,sweet, and spicy stuff, i think it all started with the micheladas, and of course the tostilocos trend. 90% of people who like this shit are teenagers

There's literally a place near my home that sells this kind of shit and it ALWAYS full (pic related)

But their most famous item is a bucket full of shit like fruit, sweets, and gummies filled to the brim with chamoy, which is pretty much sugar and chili powder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzEugJaXk7c

my teeth hurt seeing this

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>>8359881
As a fat guy who loves his sugary treats, that shit looks genuinely fucking revolting.

>> No.8360894

>>8360765
>mexifats

>> No.8360922

>>8360765
From 1 to 10 how much dhiarrea would eating in your town give me paco?

>> No.8360928

>>8359670
What's supposed to be wrong with this?

>> No.8360938

>>8360922
7.9

>> No.8360949

>>8360922
not him but with that much salt your body would be holding onto a shitload of water.

>> No.8360973
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>>8360487
this is by far the worst thing I have ever seen on my entire life. What he absolute fuck fuck compelled someone to invent this

>> No.8361147

>>8360887
I want to have a bf like you (male)

>> No.8361166

>>8359582
That probably tastes better than it looks at least.

>> No.8361167

>>8360765
the thing in the video actually looks pretty good.

>> No.8361227

>>8359589
This is what I imagine when British people try to make pizza

>> No.8361242
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>>8361227

>> No.8361248

>>8361242
That's not food.

>> No.8361251

>>8359594

Thiw is exactly what happens to those pre packaged cheese slices in the oven. They don't melt and the gelatin that keeps them together burns.

>> No.8361255

>>8361248
Well done, detective.

>> No.8361626

>>8361147
I am single

>> No.8363005

>>8360765
That looks fucking disgusting

>> No.8363043

>>8359670
Looks pretty dank for this time of year, tbtach, desu.

>> No.8363053
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>>8359752
>using geography as an insult

>> No.8363058

>>8360765
Those were some qt mexigrills

>> No.8363067

>>8363053
flyover state detected

>> No.8363069

>>8360697
>>8360487
>>8359881
what's with the 50 bazillion sauces why not just mix all the sauce in on fucking bottle?

>> No.8363076

>>8361167
spot the underaged lardass and his baby palate.

>> No.8363082

>>8360973
>People will consume stupid shit so long as it has some presentation

Is what I'm thinking was the thought behind this. What someone PERCEIVES to be good based on aesthetics will likely be good to that person.

Especially if that person is a gluttonous piece of shit.

>> No.8363086

>>8363082

I'm actually inclined to believe more that people are getting it ironically. Like they know it's shit but it's something you can post on social media and act like "lol it's so bad why am I doing this"

>> No.8363108

>>8359611
Except the one that is charred to hell. What is wrong with this?

>> No.8363159

>>8359594
Its litrally whay ameracan's call cheese

>> No.8363212

>>8359881
How the fuck would you eat that and not make a mess?

>> No.8363214

>>8360765
North Mexico here, haven't seen that trend yet, but it looks horrendous.

I've only seen stuff like water ice crea with tons of spice and gummies...its ok, but I'd rather just have regular mangonada ice cream.

>> No.8363216

>>8363159
First time I've ever seen an American made pizza which looks like that, Mr. ESL.
Or seen any pizza which looks like that, from anywhere, for that matter.

>>8361147
Sorry, I'm straight and I have a waifu.

>> No.8363230
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>> No.8363236

Kay's Good Cooking. It's a whole channel of food gore.

>> No.8363245

>>8359582
how is that gore?

tell me one thing about that picture which you can confidently say is evidence that the food tastes bad


you might as well consider all curries to be "food gore". you have no idea whether they taste good.

>> No.8363247

>>8363069
Seriously nigga,why whould you mix it all in one?

>> No.8363253

>>8359670
>hurr it's a soup so it must taste bad

is /ck/ full of people who spend all their time looking at pictures of food and none of their time cooking or eating it?

this "hurr I can tell how food tastes by what it looks like " attitude is often so retarded here

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>> No.8363262

>>8360487
look at her hand movements.

look at how she takes pride in creating that thing as though she were an actual cook

>> No.8363352

>>8363245
The whole dish looks under cooked and it's fucking bathing in some bullshit Alfredo sauce. that being said if I was home alone and cooking for myself I might eat it. But I'd probably feel shit about it. murica.

>> No.8363375

>>8359582
This would look good if they threw it under the broiler for like 3 minutes. As it is now, it looks like when my cat eats a bunch of grass and then throws it up.

>> No.8363388

>>8360765
dafuq

>> No.8363390

>>8363257
Actually made me puke, im out

>> No.8363441

>>8359936
Its a snack in mexico. Made out of other snacks and a lot of spicy
sauce and lemon

>>8360887
This is not sugaryat all.

>>8363069
some people dont like some chili sauce or lemon juice, so they leave it to by added on demand.

>> No.8363455

>>8361242
Well it was more for making fun of how bad their food is

>> No.8363458

>>8359582
Shit looks raw

>> No.8363470

>>8360181
kraft singles are not cheese. The only people who eat them are o-beasts

>> No.8363474

>>8360487
Throw in some ground beef and ill eat it
What was that shot she threw on there? Hominy? Rice?

>> No.8363506

>>8360765
that cashier girl is qt as fuck

food looks like itd be allright drunk food but sober i think id get sick

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>>8359881
The fucking Clamato at the end

>> No.8363802
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>>8359881
>>8360487
I know these two are posted all the time around /ck/, but seriously what the fuck

>> No.8363825
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>>8363257

>> No.8363885

>>8363257
it amazes me everytime that people actually do this

>kim kardashian

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>>8363257
DELET

>> No.8364404
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>>8363257

>> No.8364438

>>8359614
How the hell do you fuck up corndogs?

>> No.8364523

>>8360765

Fuck, keep all this shit in your own hideous country please. Everything about your people and culture is absolutely repulsive.

>> No.8364590
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>>8363257
Why is this a thing

>> No.8364598

>>8359670
>not a McChicken

Would not eat

>> No.8364666

>>8363257
>>>gmofree.jpg

>> No.8364709

>>8359670
Thats a normal soup you retard

>> No.8364741
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>>8360487
>spoonful of corn water at the end

>> No.8364760

>>8359582
There is nothing wrong with this.

>> No.8364769

>>8363257
BONE APPLE TEETH

>> No.8364992

>>8363257
Now I want some Placenta Fried Rice.

>> No.8365004

>>8359611
I have only eaten the heart and scrapped the meat off the leaves. Are there any other ways?

>> No.8365020
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>>8360765
My face when throughout this fucking mess

>> No.8365023

>>8359582
That looks delicious. This is now an autism/picky eater thread.

>> No.8365037

>>8364523
I know right? This is Murica' here we eat hotdogs and sandwhiches whoooa hell yeah murica whooooa shiiit, ill eat a can of spam anyday over a taco, we whites folkes are the most dandy race and culter there ever was.. whoahh me and my bro voted trump whoooa maga whoooa merica great again whoa .. i eat out my cousin jane cause she white ill have her any day over a mexican cause here in america we are great white whoahhhh merica dont fuck with our hotdog culture

>> No.8365059

>>8364523
I take dumps all the time on the american flag

>> No.8365074
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>>8363257
oh god the veins

>> No.8365114

>>8365037
>Being this big of a butthurt mexican

must be cold in that wall's shadow.

>> No.8365279
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>>8365037
You seem hurt.

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>> No.8365313

>>8363257

This is fake

...right?

please tell me this is fake

>> No.8365335

>>8363257

brb throwing up irl

>> No.8365351
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>>8363067

>> No.8365353

>>8363230
How was it?

>> No.8365398

>>8360697

As an Aussie, what in the name of Jesus tap dancing Christ is that?

>> No.8365697

>>8360765
>peach rings
>hot sauce
>olives
>and cheese
>all in one bowl
I'm starting to think that wall isn't such a bad idea after all

>> No.8365721

>>8363257
fuck you, i just opened a pack of beef jerky.

>> No.8365738

>>8363352
you can't tell that it's undercooked and have no idea how the source is seasoned.

You're literally saying "eww it has a white sauce ,ewww" like a complete fucking moron. obviously you'd eat it with a suitable amount of rice or some other staple carbohydrate.

what a fucking dumbass you are.

dumb food photo-looker

>> No.8366100

>>8364590
from my understanding it has to do with the fact that it's basically where alot of nutrients and hormones end up and having it out leaves the mother a bit out of wack. Eating it is meant to take all that shit back in, the husband traditionally only eats like a quarter.

That all being said i'd imagine alot of the actual nutrients would be gone compared to the fucking jerky that is >>8363257

Gotta say I'd give it a go though, probably the closest to being able to legally eat human.

>> No.8366197 [DELETED] 

>>8365114
Butthurt that craker crying over some mexican snacks, keep that food away from me whining like a lil bitch lol.. but thats white privelage ..craka gets offend, someone mocks him sarcastically, but the craka isnt the butt hurt one its the one mocking whites right? Lol ...white americans dont even have a culture so mexicans cant get butthurt when a whitey insults our culture, so go eat a can of vienna wieners, you tasteless accident of life :)

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>>8364438
Like this

>> No.8366367
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8366367

Have you accepted Ja/ck/ as your lord and saviour yet?

>> No.8366393

>>8366367
a whole huge bag of cheese, then another bag of cheese. wowwwwwwweeeee that's like 20 dollars worth of shredded cheese. What a colossal waste of money.

>> No.8366395

>>8366367
I'm surprised she didn't sprinkle some cheese on top of the sour cream.

>> No.8366402

>>8366367
thats a jack? whats up with the fingernails? i feel like if it was jack half that beef would be pink and not strained of grease

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>>8363257
I'd eat placenta. only my own, mind you. do you think it would need to be cooked? it just came out of my body, it should be good to go right back in.

>> No.8366438

>>8366435
>I'd eat shit. only my own, mind you. do you think it would need to be cooked? it just came out of my body, it should be good to go right back in.

>> No.8366447
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8366447

"make america great again"
but you can't make a decent pizza

pic related

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8366449

>>8366367
Praise Jack!

>> No.8366460 [DELETED] 
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8366460

What's going on here?

>> No.8366467

>>8366447
That is a good idea honestly. Pizza chicken is just the next level of chicken replacing bread, as we saw with the KFC double down and the Taco Bell chicken taco shell. I would eat it, and then I would eat chicken and dumplings where the dumplings are just chicken. It would be chicken and chicken soup.

>> No.8366484

>>8366467
it's just "normal" pizza..not pizza chicken

>> No.8366495
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>>8366460
Nothing

>> No.8366512

>>8366367
I was disgusted by this but then I realized halfway through the video I ate it at church as a kid and loved it

>> No.8366564
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8366564

>>8366460
it's jack time

>> No.8366589

>>8366438
You seem to be confused. shit and placenta are different things.

It's complicated, I know.

>> No.8366601

>>8366367
I get really triggered every time I watch this. Why pour everything directly in the middle? Why would you do this?

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>>8366393
really? is that what worries u the most? the money?

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>>8366564
Oh Yeah!

>> No.8366804

>>8366671
And this is why we have knife sharpening tools
A dull knife causes more injuries than a sharp one

>> No.8366862

>>8360487
Jesus fucking christ that's an abomination to all culinary arts

>> No.8366868

>>8366671
ALWAYS WITH THAT FUCKING HIDEOUS RING. I bet you the super-bacteria that is going to wipe out the human race is hidden under this abominable fatass's ring.

>> No.8366869

>>8366367
>two cans of tomato sauce and one pack of cheese
>disappointment.png

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>> No.8366876

>>8366449
what the fuck is that

>> No.8366880

>>8360973
praise satan as the god of sesame street

>> No.8366886

>>8366564
>med-rare patties
>med-rare patties
>med-rare patties
WELL-DONE MASTER RACE

>> No.8366915

>>8364438
ja/ck/

>> No.8366927

>>8366886
retarded race

>> No.8366936

>>8360765
wtf, where do you live that the qts don't look old, burnt and shady?

>> No.8366958

>>8366367
what the fuck

>> No.8366990

>>8366467
It's just shitty dough, not nuggets.

Putting sauce+mozzarella/meunster cheese on some nuggets or frozen fish sticks is so fucking aces though.

>> No.8367000

>thread derails into another Jack thread

>> No.8367015

>>8367000
>thread derails into another Jack thread
well, the thread is about food gore, which is ja/ck/s specialty. also, nice trips

>> No.8367016

>>8359596
capn crunch litterbox bars are the best

>> No.8367048

>>8360697
what is that white stuff that he fills the cup with at the beginning? onions?

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>>8366367
when she threw that mountain of whipped cream on it at the end i fucking rolled on my floor laughing

>> No.8367062

How has this not been posted yet? Please, step aside.

https://youtu.be/u4zw99VsoMA

>> No.8367064

>>8367055
Sour creme breh

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>>8367062
>final calorie count: 6805

>> No.8367157

>>8367062
Jack's long lost sister

>> No.8367178

>>8367062
Anon, you've done it. I had to take breaks watching this and I still threw up.

>> No.8367187

>>8365037

You described 'white trash' Americans, a very small minority of the population. The vast majority of Mexicans, however, are worse than the tiny minority of backwards rednecks in white America.

Go drink two litres of coke with the rest of your obese, greasy, family.

>> No.8367190 [DELETED] 

>>8365037
Hey fuck you, I never eat out my cousin Jane.

>> No.8367209

>>8366212
Those huge rings.... Is this Ja/ck/?

>> No.8367222

>>8367187
>white trash
>small minority of the population.

You've obviously never spent anytime in texas, louisiana, missippi, alabama, georgia, north carolina, south carolina, tennessee, or west virginia.

>> No.8367230

>>8367222
>If I name off all the states in the south maybe it'll sound like I know what I'm talking about

>> No.8367248

>>8366435
>i'm a girl btw

>> No.8367340

>>8360765

No man, just fucking no.

>> No.8367471

>>8367230
>sounds like

I agree. Just the sounds of those states connote the image of white trash, and with objectively verifiable evidence to back it up.

>> No.8367503

>>8359611
if you remove the burnt-to-fuck one, this would be pretty good

>> No.8367553

>>8366671
It makes me nervous as fuck any time I watch him using a knife.

>> No.8367559

>>8359582
op looks fine, it's not food gore. this is stupid.

>> No.8367561

>>8367248

>>8367248


>i voted trump, btw

>> No.8367579

>>8360765
You're obviously american.

>> No.8367581

>>8367579
Fun fact, Mexico is one of the few countries with a higher obesity rate than America

>> No.8367619

https://youtu.be/cYV3zfG2lb0

Bone apple tit

>> No.8367631
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8367631

>>8367209
It sure is!

>> No.8367641

>>8367062
Pasi is the master chef.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5v-Ym9j8c

>> No.8367653

>>8359881
Every time I see this I try to break it down and I just get lost.

In order:
>Okay, a whole bag of BBQ flavour potato chips, or maybe all-dressed? I don't know where this takes place.
>A fuckload of... onions? Little cubes of white cheese? Queso fresco? Feta?
>At first I thought these were little cut-up hot dogs but now I'm not so sure.
>I'm pretty sure these things are cut-up "hot rods" or "slim jims"
>Fucking... I don't know, sliced beets? Dried, thick pepperoni slices?
>Pickled... something. Tomatoes? Peppers? Prunes? Further beets?
>Soy sauce or some other salty, dark sauce.
>Hot sauce.
>Okay no wait this one's hot sauce, looks a little more orange.
>Wait no THIS one's gotta be hot sauce, it has the label and everything. Maybe it's three fucking hot sauces?
>Salt and pepper mixture.
>Lemon juice / melted butter.
>Barbecue sauce, or maybe a fourth fucking hot sauce.
>Like half a fucking jug of Clamato how is it not just a pile of mush already?
Honestly when I first saw this I was expecting the last step to just be putting the whole thing in the garbage.

I don't think I'll ever figure it out.

>> No.8367718

Anyone have that filipino carbonara where some girl makes it for her boyfriend who begrudgingly has to say its good?

>> No.8367720

>>8367718
And can someone who's not dangerously feverish remind me how to state my previous post in proper English?

>> No.8367733

>>8367720
Y'all got dat flip 'nara where the bitch makes it for her nigga but dat shit nasty af

>> No.8367739

We don't normally do this kind of shit, we don't even put mayo on the pizza actually

>>8359710