/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>8354452
Trumer Pilsner, breddy gud.
IPAs gives me flashbacks to when my dad lashed me with his belt, Porters taste off to me, Stouts are ok, haven't ventured into regular ales, and I love pils.

>>8354452
Remind me again, why do we hate bud light?

Yesterday, i was lucky enough to walk into the store while they received a shipment of founders backwoods bastard and three 4 packs of last years kbs. Got the the four pack of bwb but the guy would only sell a single bottle of kbs and he didnt look happy about selling them. The twat probably wanted to keep them for himself.

>>8354561
Only smug gaylords develop strong opinions about macro brew.

>>8354561
because it tastes like water but costs money

>>8354599
>$15 for a 30 rack
>Refreshing
>Does the job

Do you guys actually drink micros while mowing the lawn etc? That's gross.

>>8354605
Yeah, that's what Founders all day IPA is for.

>>8354452
>Just got this faggy stout sampler 12 pack from Schlafly.
I got that as a gift from a friend a while back. They were alright.

Drinking Ommegang "Three Philosophers" quad tonight. It's pretty good.

>>8354605
Bud Light isn't that cheap, don't be disingenuous.
If you want a shitty cheap beer at least get something with a little flavor like High Life, PBR or Yuengling which are cheaper and better tasting than Bud Light.
Bud light is a really fucking bad middle ground because it is both near flavorless and not even that cheap, there is no reason to ever spend money on it

Also, yeah, I am not in college anymore so I drink good beer when "mowing the lawn", if you own a fucking lawn you should never be buying cheap beer

>>8354734
I won't argue the rest of your faggotry, but yes, in the midwest bud light (and all AB products of the same tier) are $15 for a 30 case. Sometimes they're maybe $17 but you can absolutely buy it for 50 cents a can.

>>8354746
>in the midwest
>buying Bud products
haha, now I know you aren't from the midwest
$15 30 pack is a normal price for cheap tier beer, but super advertising budget light beer is usually more like $18 24 packs

>>8354605
Pale ales are super nice in hot weather.
Drinking pic related. Haven't had it since I turned 21, five years ago. Can't believe I used to shit on this beer. It's phenomenal and priced reasonably. Probably my new go to.

>>8354746
I live in the midwest and have never seen bud light that cheap, ever.

>>8354756
>>8354768

Full disclosure I live about ten miles from the St. Louis brewery.

>>8354804
Missouri is the south

>>8354811
No one wants to claim missouri

>>8354811
Nigger please.

>>8354826
If your state is mostly red you are definitely not a northerner

The stars aligned for me.

Last night I went out to eat and they had Pliny the Younger on tap, and tonight I went out to a different restaurant and they just happened to have fucking Pliny the Elder on tap.

>>8354860
Never had either, I feel like I'm missing out.

Right now having some Alaskan Freeride Pale Ale. It is alright, nothing special. Easy to drink, tastes fine. I mainly got it because I haven't had it before and it seemed like one of the few non-IPA beers available. Don't get me wrong, I love IPAs as much as the next anon, but holy fuck it seems like they make up 80% of what's on the shelves here (WA).

>>8354860
Im not a fan of IPA but pliny the elder is good. Very balanced. Never had the younger.

>>8354886

I much prefer the elder, but would say the younger is the more balanced and less hop forward, so would probably appeal more to someone not really into IPAs. Both are definitely solid beers worthy of their reputations, though I wouldn't go out of my way or stand in line for hours for the younger, the elder was definitely one of the best I've ever had and it was just a fluke they had a keg (they'll go through it before the night is over, and they don't even list it).

>>8354922
Yeah. I came across pliny the elder in my local beer store. Bought three. The most drinkable ipa ive had has been founders all day ipa, the most flavorful has been pliny. Its hoppy, piney, citrusy,but all very balanced.

>>8354952

Another thing people need to understand with a beer like Pliny is the importance of freshness. The difference between a 2 week old Pliny and a 2 month old Pliny is going to be night and day, and I'm honestly pretty sure that many people who think they hate IPAs have been drinking expired beer.

>>8354993
Does Pliny really sit on shelves for much time. Based on its reputation, I can't imagine much sitting around

I got a case of this 6 weeks ago and then immediately went on a diet so they've been gathering dust. My favorite of the macrobreweries.

>>8354884
Alaskan is weird, the times I had their beers on draught they were excellent, but all the bottles of those same beers were very underwhelming.

>>8355001

People buy it up quickly, but some people might not realize that it's meant to be drunk immediately.

I don't know, I have a few smaller/more obscure breweries that I can always find on shelves, but can almost never find fresh, and it's infuriating. I asked the beer guy at my biggest local beer/liquor store if I could get a discount on something past it's best by date and he said he'll put all those out for half off around Christmas, as though anyone would want to drink them by that point (this was around a month ago).

>>8354549

People find any reason to dislike bitter or hop-forward beers.

Why can't you just admit it's because your palate is as unrefined as it was when your mommy was serving you fish sticks and ketchup?

Lets be honest. It's not a coincidence that IPAs are the most successful style of beer put out by literally any brewery that offers them, yet everyone on this board seems to get triggered when someone mentions them.

In b4 I'm the one who is triggered. I'm happily triggered and I'll fight any one of you because there isn't a style of beer I don't love.

yo i bought this racer 5 IPA and it has a really nasty after taste, is there a reason for that?

>>8355330
>It's not a coincidence that IPA's are the most successful style of beer put out... Yet everyone on this board seems to get triggered when someone mentions them.
Because it's a meme? Jack Daniels is pretty bad compared to most other whiskey, yet it's selling better than most I know. Bud Lite is monumentally more liked than IPAs, but I'll take a stab that you have shit on it and people that drank it multiple times before. "Popular for a reason" is a retarded argument.

>>8355439

>trump got elected, and unless you're a millionaire you're literally a retard if you voted for him

Yeah, people pretty much just emulate what their parents did and plug their ears (and mouths) to new ideas sometimes.

I am curious why do Americans meme IPA so much?

>>8355482

I'm curious why shitposters on /ck/ can't differentiate between "like" and "meme"?

>>8355330
When you realize that IPA was simply a method to keep beer from spoiling during long shipping and storage in a tropical climate, it kind of changes your perspective.

It's a shitty style of beer that developed out of the necessity to get somewhat palatable beer to Brits stuck in India. Surprisingly, it became the go to, must have beer for all the young american 1,000,000 scoville unit hot shot heros that would no more know an oak cask from a garage can.

>>8355503
Not shitposting but everytime I hear about beer it's always IPA, it's like how people memed bacon so much.

>>8355525

IPA is kind of like the gold standard of beer brewing; the best of the best. It's not that people don't appreciate and drink other styles, it's just that IPAs are the best. They're not the best for every setting/mood/occasion, but purely from a brewer standpoint, it's basically the benchmark.

It's kind of like the heavyweight of the boxing world; everyone wants to see the heavyweight champion because he's the one who can beat all the other champions, as interesting as they may be to watch fight.

>>8355525
IPAs are nice and medium-bodied with a lot of that fresh hop taste. A lot of flavors come through on hops: grassy, citrusy, bitter and mild. My favorite beers have lovely grapefruit or lemon tones that are in there thanks to the hops. I would like them whether they are trendy or not, but I understand how some people might not like them or might be seriously tired of hearing about them.

>>8355522
That's a myth. Maybe by the time you graduate high school you'll be old enough to appreciate bitter food and drink.

went beer shop

>Kernel Brown Ale
>Kernel Export Stout
>Kernel Pale Ale
>Magic Rock Surreal Stout
>Orval
>Trappist Rochefort 10
>Thornbridge Chocolate Stout
>Thornbridge Bourbon-aged Stout

T B H
B
H

>>8354452

I have a westvleteren 12 purchased a few years ago when they limited released to the states

For reasons not my fault it's been in my fridge since.

I'm scared to drink it - think it's still ok to drink?

>>8356134
It's not going to hurt you or taste bad or anything, no

>>8356134
They age fine

>>8356209

For several years in a refrigerator though?

I had a dogfish 120 minute that also stayed in a refrigerator for a couple years. Opened it and it was awful - shared with some friends and everyone got sick...

Maybe it was just that particular bottle

>>8356263
nobody got sick from an ipa that was only a couple years old. I had some of an 80+ year old lager that was probably shitty to begin with because reasons and it didn't hurt me at all

>>8356263
The refrigerator stopped any sort of yeast activity depending on the temperature, and yes. While there is a best buy date on the bottle usually, the westy lasts for like 5 to 6 years in cellaring temps. Also the people didn't get sick from the beer. I guarantee that.

Tried some chocolate orange stout from some local brewery.

Wasn't as bad as it sounds.

>>8356263
No pathogens can survive in the environment of beer, no matter its age, primarily because it's too acidic, and secondarily because of the alcohol.

>>8355439

>"popular for a reason" is a perfectly fine argument. The consumer is literally the only thing that dictates whether a product is good or not. Not to mention the fact that an IPA and a Bud Light aren't even in the same market nor even share overlap in target audience. The only thing they have in common are that they both can be classified as a "malt beverage", yet their collective differences distance them to the point of apples and oranges. Sure, I've shit on Bud Light, and it's because I don't identify with a Bud Light drinker in the slightest. I drink strictly craft beer, and I identify with craft beer drinkers because they have discerning taste. A Bud Light drinker most certainly does not have discerning taste.

>>8355522

>muh origin of the name

Not an IPA on the market today is made in honor of its namesake. Not to mention that every beer has hops and hop character in it, but got forbid it's anything more than just a subtlety or the tasteless spergs will start to screech about things they don't like being nothing more than memes.

>>8356684
> I drink strictly craft beer
Why though? There's plenty of non-craft beers that are good. I bet there's loads of them you would like if you just gave them a try. If you just happen to like craft beers better than non-craft then thats one thing but if you literally refuse to try them because
>muh microbrew
You're legit a hippster faggot

>>8356888
>There's plenty of non-craft beers that are good
Unless you're counting craft breweries that are now owned by macros, I can't think of one. Some like PBR are fine but I would never call it a good beer.

Drinking a Westmalle tripel. The best tripel I've had.

>too lazy to refrigerate my beer from last night
>put it on the porch while there is a snowstorm
>ice cold beer

>>8355590
>myth

If by myth you mean historical fact, ok.

>>8356888

>There's plenty of non-craft beers that are good

Not a single beer exists on the market that doesn't qualify as "craft" and doesn't cut a significant portion of their recipe with adjuncts like corn and rice. They add just enough malted barley to call themselves "malt beverage" or "malt specialty" by FDA standards.

Notice how craft beer doesn't have that problem? That's why I drink strictly craft beer. Call me a hipster faggot all you want, I genuinely like beer and I'd prefer it unadulterated with fillers. Care to call me a hipster faggot because I buy organic food too?

>>8356997
Hops wer expensive and beer was mostly drunk by the working class then, so they couldn't afford to put much hops in most beer, so the hoppy stuff was saved for special occasions such as long voyages where the extra hop content kept bacterial growth low

>>8357058
I always have thought of craft beers as mostly really low quantity produced country local stuff. But if you mean anything that isn't Bud light, coors, whatever then I completely agree with you.

>>8356888
Can't think of any American macro I'd classify as good. Refreshing and easy to drink? Yes. Good? No.

>>8357088
Would you say Sierra Nevada, Stone, Alaskan, or Ballast Point are craft? Just curious.

>>8356932
God like.

>>8357098

They're craft by definition. There's a few buzzwords commonly used to describe small, local, or specialty beer breweries, but the most important indicator of craft is that they produce less than 6 million barrels each year. Sierra Nevada, as expansive and successful as they are, still produce less than 10% of what Anheuser Busch produces each year.

>>8357098
I've only heard of Sierra Nevada and Stone but I guess I would say yes. They do have those in Norway so they are obviously not really small and miniscule. Maybe I just have my definitions of craft/macro/micro messed up

>>8357137
The term craft beer is kind of ambiguous. It has a technical definition of basically any brewery that is Sam Adams or smaller, but it really refers more to the beer's quality than the size of the company. Take stuff like Goose Island for instance, they are owned by Budweiser, but most of their stuff is pretty well regarded, the there is stuff that is technically small enough to be considered "craft" but no one considers craft because it is bad like Yuengling.

>>8357058
Life in the US must be terrible if your only beer choices are adjunct lager and overpriced craft beer. In the UK there is a whole market of real ale that is in between the shit beer and the best beer. The sort of beer that won't break the bank but is perfectly drinkable in the pub or at home.
>>8357067
Not quite, hops are expensive true, but the taste for very well hopped beers just didn't really exist until recently. You have to remember nowadays people drink IPA fresh but it was designed to age for months on long sea voyages and only be drunk after the hop flavours had reduced significantly.
Traditionally keeping beers and old ale (your good beer to be dunk on special occasion) were low on hop content and focused on strong malt and yeast profiles. The trend for extremely bitter and hoppy beers is very new.

>>8357179
>You have to remember nowadays people drink IPA fresh but it was designed to age for months
You make it sound like it was some god that created it. It was saved for the long voyages because the weak stuff went bad, and it was too expensive to drink every day

>>8357179
>Life in the US must be terrible if your only beer choices are adjunct lager and overpriced craft beer
Craft beer is much more affordable in the US than England, sure its more than cheap beer, but its well within reach of pretty much anyone

>>8357179
Its also important to note that we have much better tasting hops now. IPA didn't really explode in popularity until the modern super tasty hops were bred

>>8357201
Is there an equivalent of real ale in the US market?
In the UK there are plenty of surviving breweries that are definitely not craft in any way, but they brew good tasting beer with no adjuncts, real hops instead of extract and are hardly more expensive than the shittest of lager.
I ask because due to the prohibition american brewing took a massive ht and your only breweries that have survived the prohibition now brew adjunct pilsners.

>>8357249
No, not really. Yeah, prohibition killed all but the big shitty breweries, and then over regulation afterwards didn't help.
Luckily for us now it being shitty for so long was probably what lead to craft beer becoming so popular and easy to find now, while in the UK where ok though weak beer was available there was less demand to create craft beer

>>8357262
Yeah that makes sense there is definitely less market pressure in the UK for development within brewing. I like weak beer though. The UK pint is about 15% bigger than the US pint and there are also laws in the UK that say if you ask for a pint you must legally be served 567ml of fluid. Also "session drinking" seems to be far more prevalent in the UK than the US where you drink for 6-10 hours and consume maybe a gallon of beer but not get too drunk. That isn't achievable without weaker beer.

>>8357286
I talked to some beer guys when I was there and they said beer is also taxed based on how much alcohol it has so that has long encouraged the proliferation of lower alcohol beer

>>8357179
Most craft beer in the US is generally $5-8 for a 6 pack and the macros are around $15-20 for 24, so craft isn't actually that much more expensive. Not sure how it is over there.

is $17 too much for the 2016 version? Never had one but I am interested.

>>8357329
I want to say yes, just because there are so many great barrel aged beers for cheaper now, but if you've never had it it'd be worth the experience

>>8357302
thats true too, there are three "cliffs" where alcohol duty on beer increases 1.2%, 2.8% and 7.5% because of this there are very few beers above 7.5% produced in the UK. Brewdog makes a lovely session IPA called nanny state at 0.5%.

>>8357179

>your only beer choices are adjunct lager and overpriced craft beer

Eh, more or less. Europe literally invented beer so it would only make sense that your options are broader.

>>8357359
>Europe literally invented beer so it would only make sense that your options are broader.
Europe did invent America too so that logic doesn't really hold, pretty much the entire midwest was settled by German and Irish people

>>8357369

>Europe invented beer
>beer has existed for thousands of years
>Europe invented America
>America has existed for 250 years

Your logic doesn't hold

>>8357359
>>8357369
>>8357390
I like this argument guys but beer was probably invented somewhere around the middle east shortly after the domestication of wheat.

>>8357398
>domestication of wheat

I think you mean barley.

>>8357390
America split off from Europe culturally. It makes little sense to attribute inventions that predate that split to one and not the other. Its not like America just spontaneously arose, it was created by Europeans who brought their knowledge and traditions with them
>I like this argument guys but beer was probably invented somewhere around the middle east shortly after the domestication of wheat.
True in a sense, but the modern sense of beer in which the definition specifically requires hops was invented in Europe about 1000 years ago

>>8357412
I don't know which was domesticated first but it would definitely be possible to make some sort of beer from wheat

>>8357412
Primitive varieties of wheat can actually be mashed s they contain enough amylase to be self converting. Einkorn, a variety of wild wheat and possibly the first grain ever farmed can be malted and mashed unlike modern wheat to produce a maltose rich wort.

>>8357322

No it's not retard

Show me a craft beer 6 pack @ $5

Are you autistic

>>8357457
I don't think you know what that word means anon.

>>8357398

>implying smelly arabs invented my precious beer

Who do you think occupied the fertile crescent during the dawn of agriculture?

>>8357461
IIRC the earliest evidence of brewing was in Armenia, so not exactly arabs.

Yeah, it's pretty much a beer meme overload, but this shit is fucking good. Not my picture.

>>8357461
Finnish refugees at the fringe of the khanate attempting to recover from the loss of technology caused by the nuclear fission bombs dropped at the end of the finno-korean hyper war.

>>8357457
I got a 4 pack of 16 oz cans for 4.99

>>8357457
My grocery store had Otra Vez on sale for $4.50 for like 2 months

>>8357475
Fuck that sounds good. Their regular peanut butter porter is incredible. They had a hazelnut one for awhile that I thought was even better. Too bad they're jam packed from open to close

>>8357457
$5 is low, but the vast majority of craft beer 6 packs are $7-9

>>8354599
Water costs money you dingus.

>>8354452
Sobieski vodka

>>8357494
you can easily get free water

>>8357475
That's either a pretty big bottle, or that dude has very small hands.

Got 3 different stouts, mixing them all
Guinness Extra
Red hare Oatmeal stout
hombrew honey stout

Probably drink a SN porter later or maybe an IPA

Last year I was lucky enough to get my hands on westleven 12. Was probably the best beer I've ever had. Have any of you tried it or wanted to try it?

>>8357484

Cans of what

>>8357538
Steel Reserve

>>8357538
Surly Xtra citra

>>8357540

That's a Miller product m8

>>8357533
I'm gonna need a recipe on that honey stout.

I used to think I don't like mead, then I brewed a very bitter pale braggot and realised what I don't like is overly sweet drinks.

Is this the best dark German beer ever made?

Is this a good beer? It has a "world class" on beeradvocate but Victory's other beers didnt impress me

>>8357928
Haven't had it in a while, but I recall considering it good but nothing special

>>8357570
You should try a dry mead. That's the only kind of mead I make. Use Champagne yeast like Lavlin EC-1118 and the sugar will all ferment out if you're using 1 to 1.5 gallons of honey per 5 gallon batch.

http://www.jsonline.com/story/entertainment/beer/2016/12/06/brewer-responds-protests-offensive-beer-name/95057906/
Guys is calling a beer flavored with grapes and dates 'Date Grape" inappropriate?

>>8354605
>>Refreshing
drink water
>>Does the job
drink a 40oz

>>8354831
>tfw stlouis
>tfw more southern than texas just by association

>>8358057
To be fair, the blue parts of Texas are just straight up Mexico

>>8358064
To be fair, texas is essentially the sewage field for the septic waste of the US. Except for Austin.

am i weird if i prefer to pour beer straight down, and just wait to let the foam settle? i feel like you get the strongest aroma and taste that way

>>8357359

>your beer options are broader in europe than in the us

Congratulations, you just won dumbest post of the week.

>>8354452
>general

>>8358027
I find it funny, but I see why some would be offended. I think people should be able to name their creations whatever they want though.

>>8358223
The even crazier part was that those people also got offended that a mexican inspired beer had a sombrero on the label, and one inspired by Snoop Dogg was racist because there was an image of a hop cone with Snoop like hair on it

>>8358233
The Sombrero is just tacky, and I don't get the snoop thing. They both sound like awful ideas, but nothing to get upset about

>>8358268
I'm not a huge fan of most of their ideas, but I think its fucking ridiculous that its getting people mad

>>8358308
People will get upset about anything. I still don't understand the outrage at the spaghetti o Pearl Harbor thing.

>>8358051
>Be trash: the post

>>8357329
I had the 2015 version and it was good but not $15.00 worth. It is very sweet with a very pronounced bourbon-molasses note.

>>8357928

prima pils doesn't impress you?

>>8357928
It's a great DIPA. Well balanced with a good hop profile, no alcohol presence. It's a great example of a classic DIPA, but nothing unique or special about it.

>>8357329

if you have meme beer friends and want to show off your meme beer purchasing skills, sure. but it's absolutely not worth that much.

Had pic related, it was really nice.

Also had a Founders Backwoods Bastard for the first time. Was awesome.

Finished off with a Prairie Christmas Bomb, super enjoyable.

>>8357928
Victory's Storm King is a very respectable imperial stout. Especially for it's pricing.

>>8357398
Kinda true. It was born like agriculture is presumed to be born in general, simultaneously in many different places where people lived and it was seen as reasonable. Mankind's solutions to problems are not infinite, so similarities naturally occur. Or this is at least in line with what we know of agriculture through historical remains, there's most likely a lot of things we can't know because the sources haven't remained to our present day.

I'd need a beer, but I really shouldn't, for I have some writing jobs to do.

>>8358164

I mean't by price point you turd ass. I was responding to a post about US beer being limited to overpriced craft beer and shitty adjunct lager.

There are better price point options for beer in Europe. Not trying to suck EU dick on this one but it's true.

What is a tasty beer if I think beer tastes like ass

>>8359636
Cider

>>8359636
What is it in particular about beer that you find distasteful? What flavors do you like? Herby? Chocolate?Coffee?Toffee? Citrus? Etc.

>>8356684
>The consumer is literally the only thing that dictates whether a product is good or not.
>Sure, I've shit on Bud Light... A Bud Light drinker most certainly does not have discerning taste.
Liberal Hipsters, everyone.

>>8360165

>consumerist
>liberal

pick one

Currently drinking this. It's fine, fairly unexceptional session IPA, but decent enough.

This is my favorite beer, what else would i like?

I like the other deschutes ipas as well and some stone, but some recommendations would be awesome

>>8360435
Forgot pic

Cream soda > beer
Prove me wrong

>>8357329
Yes. Hell yes. They are $7 a bottle cost price. Most places sell them for $10-12 if youre paying more youre getting fucked hardcore.

Source: own a beer store in west hollywood

Abbot's from Greene King. It's a regional brewery, not really a micro.

Lovely stuff. Actually tastes of something. Earth, Mushroom, malt, hoops and a fruity kick.

Legitimately in the top five beers I've ever had, and I've had a borderline embarrassing number of beers. Not my picture.

>>8359630
Not trying to be jack off or anything but it's "overpriced" because the craft beer in the U.S. is arguably the best in the world and isn't really even the same product as U.S. domestics.

>>8360917
I love both barrel aged stouts and applejack, that's good to hear, not that I'll be able to find it in PA

>>8359630
>There are better price point options for beer in Europe. Not trying to suck EU dick on this one but it's true.
are you underage or what? the things you're saying are retarded

>>8360917
This was easily one of my favorite stouts ever. Even at 10$ a bottle I'd happily buy it again.

>>8360917
Most of Prairie's stouts tend to be excellent

Just too pricey to have more than once in a while though.

>>8360430
Two Roads tends to be really hit or miss.

They're collabs with Evil Twin are alwaysgenerally solid though.

>>8357913
It's very good if I remember correctly.

Had the Backwood Bastard, it was delicious.

>>8362907
Yeah this is the first year I've tried BB and I'm going to make sure I get it again next year. Not even a huge barrel aged fan, but they did it right with that beer.

>>8362913

BB and Bruery's Sour in the Rye are the best barrel aged beers I've had and I generally love most barrel aged beers.

I did have a prettt awful rum barrel Oktoberfest a few weeks ago. Easily one of the worst beers I've ever had.

>>8333333

>>8362907
I also tried it this past week and it was good. Maybe alittle too sweet for my taste but it was well balanced. Also was able to get my hands on founders imperial stout which was excellent. And one bottle of kbs which i havent tried.

Just had some MIA 305 Tropical Lager and Anderson Valley Blood Orange Gose last night. Probably my favorite Kölsch and Gose, respectively.

This shit is one of my favorite local brews. That tartness and yeasty twang.

>>8360991

>not even counterarguing or saying anything about beer

You're retarded senpai

>>8363956
Statement: I'd rather pay $8 for a sixer of good beer (from a bountiful selection) than whatever euros pay for their limited selection of acceptable beer

>>8364090

>current year
>8 dollars for a sixer of good beer

Where I'm living, even the plebbiest of craft beer (New Belgium, Blue Moon, Harpoon, Saranac) isn't even 7.99.

>>8359636

just drink a beer faggot jesus

>>8364122
My city is a major beer producer and my state has some of the lowest taxes on alcohol in the nation

Got a 4 pack of this as a gift. First grand cru I've ever had so idk what I'm supposed to expect, but it's really light feeling, but has a ton of flavor going on. It's got the yeasty saison thing, but with some bite to it, and some real honey sweetness. I'm not going to go into anymore detail because I'll feel like a faggot, but I'm very happy with this beer.
Also, not my picture.

>>8364122
Your getting jewed m8, that's absolutely not normal for most of the country.

>>8358157

Yeah you're pretty weird famlam

>>8360430

CTfag here, Two Roads is kinda mediocre desu senpai. Cool brewery though. Half Full in Stamford has really really good seasonals/limited releases recently though so might want to check those out.

>>8357475

Is this sold in liquor stores anywhere in the Midwest? I'm dying to try it, and I drive for a living so I don't mind picking up a couple bottles for the hotel at night.

>>8363445

Been dying to try Creature Comforts, can you only get it in Georgia?

Whenever I travel, I always tend to stop at microbreweries and buy a t-shirt or something. It's kind of my way to say "Yeah I've been to this part of the country, I just don't want to buy some cheesy tourist shirt"

Does anyone else do this or am I a weird /ck/?

>pic kinda related

>>8364690
i think it's still cheesy but less noticeably so.
a little weird but if you're cool with being that guy

>>8354671
I was at Founders on friday drinking a Lizard of Koz (too sweet, like drinking pancake syrup) and a Red's Rye (love IPAs with toasty amber flavor)

How prevalent/popular/hated is Founders outside of Michigan? I prefer Bell's most of the time.

>>8364690
pretty neato in my opinion friendo ;)

I collect drink coasters from any new restaurant I go to

>>8364693
He wouldn't be "that guy" it's a neat idea

A little weird is better than being the tryhard jock with no sense of humor.

>>8364698
I collect mugs and glasses

>>8364713

I do this too. All my drinking glasses at home I bought from breweries or restaurants around

>>8364694
Do they even distribute much? I've never seen Founders on the shelf. Heard good things about their beers though.

>>8364743
No idea, but apparently they're "launching" all the way over in California this week.

>>8364754
After looking all over for founders in southern california for over two years without success. I finallfound a shop that carries them. So far ive tried dirty bastard, all day ipa, centenial ipa, mosaic, backwoods bastard, breakfast stout, imperial stout, and ive got one bottle of KBS in the fridge waiting for me for new years. They were also carrying a Rubeus and redanklulous.

>>8364774
>KBS
That stuff's so hard to get here, even on tap.

>>8364690

you're just attention whoring, nothing weird about that

>>8364784
Yeah the faggot store owner did not want to sell me a four pack and was reluctant to sell me the one bottle. I picked up the 4 pack of backwoods bastard. Making conversation ask him if he has kbs in stock he says no. Stoner employee in the back overhears convo and says, "dude, they sent us 4 4 packs with the backwoods bastard". The owner stares daggers into the guy. I ask for a four pack, he says no, he will only sell me 1 bottle and its a 2015 year. I argue for a while he doesnt budge. End up buying it. I was going to go back with friends but i can guaranteehe would just say they sold out.

>>8364806
It's good, worth the hype

>>8364743
They definitely do, but they're probably mostly just in the midwest right now.

>>8364743

>>8364806
Beer shops got one and only one complimentary case with their backwoods bastard shipment. We only sell them by the bottle and only put a few on the shelf. We kept most of them in the back for our preferred beer costumers who either spend a lot, know a fuck ton about beer, or have industry ties. We're a big store, but I know smaller places do this as well.

>>8364341
This stuff is like an amazing saison, well worth the purchase

>>8364939
Well thankfully the stoner spilled the beans. Are you going to receive another shipment of it this year?

I've recently started drinking, and after trying a lot of different kinds, the only ones I've been able to enjoy all the way through were a grapefruit beer and Guinness. All the others either tasted like piss or stopped being good halfway through the drink. Will I get accustomed to the taste any time soon, or do I just have a narrow pallet?

>>8364980
Haven't smoked in years, bropadre. Unless I totally missed the joke.

No more shipments this year. Sorry bud. Gotta wait for the next KBS release in Spring.

What's a good beer to give to my family/friends for Christmas.

>>8365219
Price range / beer? How is the weather in your area?

>>8365320
Ideally, no more than $50 per case, but could go a bit higher. Weather is temperate; it doesn't snow, but does get as cold as 40 Fahrenheit (about 4 Celsius)

>>8365331

>case

Well you already fucked up there.

I'm so grateful I live in Michigan. You can't go to any grocery store that doesn't carry quality beer.

I've been told this is due to easy access to fresh water but I'm just happy my state's beer culture is so vibrant.

>>8360917
same, had that last week. mind blowing

>>8364671
I'll keep an eye out for anything from Half Full then, hopefully they export to Britbongland ;_;

I'm going to Pittsburgh to meet family and one of my family really loves beer what should I get him? What is the best brewery in Pennsylvania?

Just had enjoy by 12 25 16, is bretty good, but I guess if I didn't have a dozen micros in my city I'd appreciate fresh IPA more. Got a real buzz going though so that's cool

>>8365057

have you tried boones farm

>>8365057
Just drink to get drunk for a while. Light macro beers like bud light or natty, PBR, Colt 45 if you want to try malt liquor.

>>8365057
beer is a very acquired taste. Many people never truly get it. Most of my friends only drink beer because it gets you drunk and ordering anything else makes you look like a fag.

I was lucky in that my CAMRA member dad made me drink about a sip of beer a day since I was five so by the time I was 15 and ready to start drinking properly I had an idea of what I liked and could drink it without pulling a face.

There are two routes to getting into beer.
Route one is drink beers that don't taste like normal beer, framboise, kriek, braggot, milk stout, bavarian weissbeer and gradually branch out from there towards more traditional beers.
The other is to force yourself to drink it until you like it.
I had a friend that I managed to get into beer by route 1, I got into it by route 2.
Try both and see which works for you.

>>8365532
I know that feeling man. The only sucky part is that most supermarkets are shitty at rotating stock so you get stuck with year old IPA's on shelves. Meijer is at least decent at it though. Love that they let you buy singles.

>>8367512

>beer is a very acquired taste

>>8367530
do you not know the literal meaning of acquired taste?
Beer is bitter, it makes your mouth feel funny, strong beer feels warm and can even burn a little when you drink it.
None of these qualities are naturally appealing.

>>8367576

You said most people never really get into beer, yet IPAs are the most popular style and pretty much everyone (that isn't a child on 4chan) enjoys them.

Sure, kids usually don't like beer the first time they try it, but the vast majority of people do learn to enjoy and appreciate beer at a relatively young age.

>>8367597
I think most people will drink beer, and they'll be able to differentiate beer they like from beer they don't but far less people get into beer as a hobby.

>>8356932
Had that for the first time last night, instant favorite

I love Two Hearted but I'm too much of a Jew to spend 10 dollars on a 6 pack of beers.

>>8367741

>10 dollars on a 6 pack of beer

That's cheap though. I barely ever see anything for less than $2 a bottle that I don't brew myself.

>>8367848
shit, where is that, thats really high for standard tier craft beer

>>8367855

West Coast (not even in a big city), Southern New England, Chicagoland.

>>8367512

So your dad started training you for alcoholism at 5 fucking years old?

Fucking hell m8 you may need to contact a psychiatrist

>>8368093
Let me guess, American?
If you treat alcohol like a forbidden fruit then when your kids hit their rebellious phase they'll drink way too much and make an arsehole of themselves.
In the UK and most of europe its fairly common to let small children have small amounts of alcohol and then you gradually increase that amount as they get older. I think I had my first ever full pint at 14 just after my birthday.

>>8368982
I'm living evidence of it. Wasn't allowed any booze at all, then I almost died before I was 18 in a ditch due to hypothermia from knocking down half a bottle of cheap spirits on an empty stomach.

My fault but my parents didn't do too much to help other than drag me back to the land of the living.

>>8357928
I think dirtwolf is not THAT good but I love their golden Monkey

>>8354452
I fucking love stouts and ports, the heavier the better. I am deeply concerned my beer of choice is heading into faggot IPA territory. It's always worrisome when women and homosexuals start saying they enjoy your preferred type.

>>8368093
Agree with the other reply. You're foolish to think that alcohol shouldn't be consumed until you hit a magic number. Been drinking beer amd wine since I was really little. By the time that I was six my parents let me pour their wine. At the time I was excited because I had learned how to pour without losing a drop. God forbid if I stained the tablecloths.

>>8370696
Whats your favorite? I prefer stouts. Havent really tried many porters but i have liked the ones i have tried.