/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I tend to be a bit more sparing with my marshmallow distribution but yes, it is a common thing to put marshmallow on top of sweet potatoes.

Don't knock it until you've tried it, man.

>>8250181
Yes

I'd love to try that

>tfw no yank gf to invite me to her family's thanksgiving dinner

>>8250181
Some do.
My family celebrates thanksgiving but didn't I know about this dish until I started working in a grocery store.

>>8250197
it's easy to make, just seems like something a 3 year old would make putting random shit together

I've seen it at thanksgiving

>>8250216
yeah but i never have the occasion

maybe i'll do it for christmas dinner

It's one of my favorite Thanksgiving dishes.

>>8250181
I have relatives who consider that dish a thanksgiving essential. It's fucking disgusting. They're the same kind of people who make pic related, which is also disgusting.

>>8250231
Green bean casserole is one of those dishes that just can't be improved even if you use fresh green beans. Like you, my family considers it a Thanksgiving staple, and my wife and I love making shit with fresh ingredients so we offered to make it to see if we could add some non-disgusting flavor to it. No dice, even with fresh ingredients it just came out a disgusting mess.

As an aside for Thanksgiving, is there any goddamn way to turn cranberries into a worthwhile side dish? I'm so fucking sick of the out-of-can cranberry jelly, it tastes fucking terrible.

>>8250239
Cranberries with some lemon zest is pretty good.

>>8250239
Make your own cranberry sauce bro. Add them to stuffing. Not a whole lot I've ever discovered to do with the things

>>8250231
>>8250239
Use fresh green beans, make an actual roux with mushrooms instead of disgusting canned cream of mushroom, and top it with bread crumbs and bake. Comes out much, much better.

>>8250181
As for sweet potato casserole, fuck marshmallows. Put some streusel on top instead. USE FRESH INSTEAD OF CANNED GOD DAMMIT

>>8250181
Holy shit Americans are fucked in the head

>>8250181
>>8250231
I wish I was American so I could eat these fantastic examples of American cuisine.

>>8250231
You sir have just been eating crappy green bean casserole. Chef John has a recipe so it's similar to the flavors of French onion soup. It's bretty gud

>>8250181
My now-wife from Pennsylvania introduced me to this. I unironically enjoy it. We have it maybe twice a year. Browned marshmallows are good, buttered mashed sweet potatoes are good, brown sugar is good. Why so mad? Is only food.

>>8250239
>is there any goddamn way to turn cranberries into a worthwhile side dish?
I think not. My sister always makes her homemade cranberry sauce, and it's much better than canned, but still shit. Cranberries are just a shit fruit.

>>8250264
I only put it on the left over turkey sandwiches. I'm not sold on it either

>>8250255
Why bother? The dish was invented to sell frozen green beans, canned condensed soup and canned fried onion. That's the reason it exists. It's 1950's food gore. There's no reason to try to upgrade it. The premise is shit to begin with. I have no interest in eating something developed in the Campbell's Soup test kitchen by a home economist in the 1950's. Not my jam at all.

>>8250272
>Why bother?
Why not just drink Soylent for every meal, you fucking faggot?

>>8250259
Fuck me running, that looks great

>>8250275
Because I like food that tastes good. Mid-20th Century food gore does not.

>>8250255
>bread crumbs
I admit I hadn't considered just using bread crumbs in lieu of the fried onion, and now that I'm thinking about it I think we did use canned mushroom soup (we love cooking with mushrooms but my family tends to be on the "if I can see mushrooms anywhere in the dish it's automatically disgusting, even if it's just during preparation because ew fungus" side of things).

>>8250239
>As an aside for Thanksgiving, is there any goddamn way to turn cranberries into a worthwhile side dish? I'm so fucking sick of the out-of-can cranberry jelly, it tastes fucking terrible.
I made a jello mold. I use 2 boxes of small or 1 large of raspberry jello, make to the thicker set recipe for each bag of fresh cranberries, plus 1 navel orange. Whirl up the cranberries and whole skin-on orange in the blender in batches. Optional: pecans or walnuts.
Pour into glass mold or decorative ring mold. The bitter peel and pitch cuts the sweetness of the jello and counters the lovely sourness of the fresh whole cranberries. This mold has a lot of chunky texture and the nuts add some rich fattiness when you add them. AMAZING synergy.

I have a relative who likes a savory cranberry chutney that is good last minute prep. To a chilled can of Ocean Spray Cranberry whole berry "sauce" which is the chunkier cranberries, she adds 1Tbsp or so of raspberry white balsamic vinegar (modena and alessio both makes one), and a tsp of Chinese 5 spice powder. There's a nice acidity and funk from the anise in the spice powder. I usually put both on my plate, but I can devour the cranberry orange casserole for the next 4 meals of leftovers and it's awesome on top of yogurt in the morning too.

pic is not mine, but it represents how chunky it is from blending in the blender. The jello is just a binder

>>8250181
I do it, but I only serve it as a dessert with a little bit of maple syrup.
My Canadian friends love it

>>8250181
The best green bean casserole is just to avoid the cans.

Go ahead saute some copious amount of fresh mushrooms and make a cream roux with garlic and lots of black pepper. Fold into blanched or else frenched green beans. Gourmet bagged fried onions aren't horrific on their own, and aren't that much improved when homemade either. But, one of the main issues with the dish is that you need to double the amount of them to get a significant amount on top, and half should be folded into the green beans, so you can sub real red onion into that part. Tobacco onions are the name for the good homemade topping onions.

>>8250239
>Make fresh mushroom soup
>make fresh green beans
>make fresh onions
There you go its just green beans in soup man.

>>8250395
I know, I know. I always underestimate how important the mushroom soup is.

>>8250395
>There you go its just green beans in soup man.
And you want to eat green beans baked in soup because? That's really the question. I understand the idea of it was to sell more canned soup a half century ago, but why eat this now?

Thinkin' bout replacing mashed potatoes with this shit this year, it's mighty tasty.

>>8250455
Its nice to have some fiber in your mushroom soup

>>8250181
That looks pretty good. I should make some later today.

Hourly

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Obsession

Thread

>>8250473
something even a mom blog can't fuck up

>>8250181
American here, and those things are disgusting they make me fucking gork

>>8250279
Which is exactly why we're changing the recipes and ingredients used so drastically. :)

>>8250247
Or orange.

>>8250181

HOURLY

>>8250181
I always make it for thanksgiving. But I add pecans too. God, it's so fucking good. I like it better cold.

>>8250571
YUROPOOR

>>8250555
It seems like throwing good effort after bad. The recipes developed in Betty Crocker and Campbell's test kitchen weren't designed to be good. They were designed to fill space in little recipe books that were given away to sell more convenience food products. The people coming up with them weren't trained cooks or chefs, they were home economists. It's not impossible that lightning could strike and they came up with something that was actually good. I'm just saying it's a longshot, because good food wasn't their goal. Their goal was finding creative ways to use shit like canned condensed soup. And they were doing this at a particularly grim time for American cuisine. Housewives were open to all manner of awful food mash ups in the interest of being modern.

I'll just pass on dishes from that era.

>>8250181
Toast sandwich is abhorrent, but addings sweets to potato for dinner is normal

>>8250575
OBSESSION

>>8250181

We usually have candied yams which may or may not have marshmallows on top.

>>8250581
You're not wrong, but people these days enjoy challenges and remixing old recipes. Plus, Thanksgiving isn't going away, and our older relatives would complain if certain dishes weren't there. Some of these older relatives are enough of a pain without having something to complain about. The solution is to "have" those dishes, but severely alter them.

>>8250584
Not defending the dish, but if you don't know the difference between a potato and sweet potato, please do your shitposting on another board.

I'll throw another of my family Thanksgiving traditions in the mix: Carrot Mashed Potatoes. Classic mashed potatoes, little more pepper than usual, and blend in steamed sliced carrots. Fucking delicious and don't knock it till you try it

>>8250657

>>8250600
>our older relatives would complain if certain dishes weren't there

Related to this, I have wanted to do away with the turkey for fucking years now, or at the very least cook it some other way than just throwing it in a fucking turkey bag and letting it roast in the oven all day. Why do family members never fucking realize how goddamn dry that makes the turkey meat? Nobody likes dry bland poultry.

>>8250657

Holy shit, that sounds tasty as fuck. I love carrots with mashed potatoes but I never thought to combine the two.

>>8250673
Smoked turkey is amazing. Very tender and loads of flavor.

>>8250600
>older relatives would complain if certain dishes weren't there
It's kind of funny how some of these "traditional" dishes were only adopted when those older relatives were children. Their parents sure as shit didn't grow up with them.

In my family my mother (now in her 80's) used to make some of those home ec recipes she'd find in gaveaway recipe books in the 1970's. No one liked them. So they never became part of our tradition. Which always made it amusing when an extended relatives would join us for Thanksgiving and bring something like green bean casserole of candied yams with marshmallows on top, because beyond everyone taking a little taste to be polite they'd be he only ones eating that stuff.

These dishes are an interesting window into what people thought was good eating in mid-@0th Century America, but the biggest thing they show us is how good we have it now.

>>8250574
do you mash the sweet potatoes?

>>8250690
Seconding smoked turkey. It makes game-changing sandwiches.

>>8250724
I personally do because it creates the preferred texture.

>>8250725
Do you even know how to communicate without using memes you fucking DONKEY

>>8250963

Sweet potato casserole is delicious, though I prefer it with pecan crumble on top rather than marshmallows.

>>8250724
yep, and sometimes I leave the skin in

>>8251007
I go for pecans and brown sugar. It's very sweet and satisfying with a good mix of textures.

Do Europeans really do this?

>>8251374
Yes. US murricans do it more cleanly with drones. There isn't even a body left. We're slightly more effecient. Eat your heart out Nazi Germany.

>>8250181
It's specifically a thanksgiving dish, maybe Christmas. I've only had a few times at thanksgiving; it's not bad, really. I don't know why so many people are repulsed by it; I can see it as an odd combination but it's not a crazy one.

>>8250231
>>8250239
I can understand why people don't like this, but I personally love it. It's the only way I've ever like canned green beans (though in recent years we've used fresh green beans).

>>8251466
lol, drones are not nearly the same thing as ethnic cleansing
Sure they kill some innocents, but its absolutely absurd to compare it with Europe's history of mass killings

>>8250193
common where?

definitely not on the west coast

HOURLY

>>8252622
West coast is a hellhole and barely counts as america.

>>8252622
Probably flyover states.

>>8252622
Lived in CA my whole life. Never was a thanksgiving or christmas where we didn't have toasted marshmallows over warm yams.

>>8252643
where's your family from? is your last name erikksson?

>>8252647
It's been tradition on both sides and beyond actually. Both sides are strictly European though my brother recently got married to some hispanic cunt. Not looking forward to their disgusting contributions to the family dinners.

>>8252630
One of the only good things to come from this election is the possibility of a caliexit. Honestly when I heard that, it made me want and go vote for trump.

>>8252660
I'm all for at least splitting California into two states, one for Northern California, and one for Southern California. The split seems fitting.

>>8252660
>>8252667
America would be even better if California fell off into the ocean

>>8252671
Most true

>>8252667
Whatever Californians that it is that leaves California cause Muh high taxes and socialist views to move to other states and vote for the same shit, yeah. Gtfo. I'm assuming socal people but it's annoying

>>8252677
Dubs of truth. Californication is a real thing. California was a mistake. Their food culture isn't even good.

DUDE MEXICAN FOOD LMAO

>>8252680
>>8252677
>>8252667
>tfw your family software business is stuck in this hellhole and you'd find no stable walk of life if you decided to up and leave

I hate it here. Mexican food is overrated garbage. At least we have nice sushi places.

>>8252681
I feel your pain. Stuck here too for now. Thinking of moving off to Texas. Love their food and people.

And not that I care for In n Out. But they have some in texas now so if I ever want I can have.

>>8252684
Texas is pretty awesome

>>8252691
You know it.

>>8252681
>>8252684
i know the feel, lads

>>8252684
Texas is the shit. We have whataburger, which demolished in n out. We also have food trucks with actual Mexican food, not that white Mexican bullshit

>>8252704
Man. I haven't had Whataburger since I was a kid. Forgot what it tastes like. I'm going to have to get some when I head to San Antonio this winter.

What's good?

>>8250257
literally just fucking make it an try it

>>8251374
Not outside of hollywood movies

>>8251522
>innocents

>>8252671
Maynard James Keenan spotted

>>8250197
come on over to thanksgiving, anon. this is literally my mom's favorite thanksgiving dish.

>>8250231
this is cancer. I absolutely abhor it. I asked someone to please make sure we had green beans for Thanksgiving and apparently they thought I meant this shit... I literally washed off the gunk and ate pure green beans.

>>8253352
Agreed. I've said it again and again here, but the truth is the 2oth Century was really hard on cuisine in America. Odds of an American dish being total garbage correlate strongly with whether the recipe came out of the 20th Century.

>>8250181
It looks kind of ok for a dessert, I'd rather have ice cream though

>>8250299
excellent

>>8253919
>20th century.

Really just the post WWII part of it.

>>8250673
>turkey bag

Wtf burgers?

>>8250181
I work at a Texas Roadhouse (Steakhouse) and they offer a "sweet load" which is a caramel cinnamon sauce and marshmallows on a sweet potato. Just know that if you EVER order it I judge you very severely. Just put butter cinnamon and brown sugar on it if you want it sweeter.

>>8254014
>I judge you very severely

That's fine because I'm sure my salary doubles yours

I find the sugar really pairs well with the sugar.

I mean, if there is one thing sweet potatoes need, it's more sugar.

>>8253971
That was the worst bit, but it started before then. Even before the Depression we saw the rise of convenience and fast food garbage. It was less cancerous than what was to follow, but things like chili joints, hot dog joints, canned soup and shelf stable degraded products like Crisco, Karo corn syrup and breakfast cereals were already on the scene. Ketchup was the dominant table condiment, and people made salad dressings by mixing it with mayo and other condiments. Wonder Bread was already a thing. The Depression, WWII and the rise of modern advertising really did a number on American food, but the groundwork for it was well in place before then.

>>8250231
you guys are dumb

it might seem pleb tier but desu this really is to a certain extant the development of american cuisine.

processed foods after wwII had a huge impact on how americans eat, no denying it. The thing is that just because 60 years ago people used the shitty can of mushroom soup with with french fried onions etc on top, doesn't mean that this dish isn't a worthwhile or traditional american staple.

I've had thanksgiving at several different friends and relatives and EVERY one serves this dish.

People are now starting to cook it with fresh ingredients and it's honestly pretty tasty when done that way. Canned green beans are total shit and I agree that this idea of shortcut cooking is stupid, but don't ignore the actual dish.

All cuisines come from the working class and what's available for the most part.

y'all a bunch of a elitist fucks that would probably think Noma is cool.

Yes, but I don't like it. This thanksgiving I'm doing Fondant Sweets instead. Still get a little extra sweetness but you can still taste the potato.

>>8254014
oh no, the guy who works at a restaurant is judging me

>>8254146
>EVERY one serves this dish.
Yet in prewar America, back when mom and grandma cooked the dishes at the thanksgiving table from scratch this dish didn't exist. So while it's a popular dish it's kind of hard to call it traditional.
>y'all a bunch of a elitist fucks
The Greatest Generation and the Boomers had shit taste in food. It wasn't their fault, they were just products of what was a dark time for American food. These dishes are relics from that time. They still exist because these people are still alive and want to eat them. But if you're someone who cooks fresh food most of the time are you really going to buy canned cream of mushroom soup and bags of marshmallows to celebrate the holidays once your Boomer relatives are gone? If you are I'd argue it will be out of nostalgia and not so much because you really think these dishes are good.

>>8252655
wtf Christmas tamales are bomb

>>8254235
This Anon speaks the truth.

>>8252671
>not knowing how much food is produced for the US and even the world in California
>not knowing how much California contributes to the US's economy
Fuck off, alt-right manbaby. You're just upset Cali is one of the most left states.

>>8254146
>All cuisines come from the working class and what's available for the most part.
This is wrong with regard to these particular dishes. They did not come from grandma being clever with what she had to work with. (Though I agree that's where most good comes from). These dishes are the result of Home Economists playing around in test kitchens with the goal of selling more canned soup, for example. These were not working class people, but people whose jobs were to market products to the working class. They are not honest grandma dishes, even though many families have adopted them as if they were. But they are not.

>>8253983

http://www.reynoldskitchens.com/oven-bags/

Best part is that they're used specifically to make meat juicy by trapping the moisture in the bag. It is without a doubt the greatest fucking lie I have ever witnessed in the history of culinary lies.

>>8250181
Fly over American here......no it's fucking disgusting

>>8254235
>>8254255
Tell me more about these tamales

>>8255488
Go to a Mexican neighborhood right before Christmas and find out for yourself.

>>8255553
Ouch!

>>8250473
>>8250473
>>8250473
>Thinkin' bout replacing mashed potatoes

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