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You can eat sushi with your hands you mong.

>>8178176
>sushi party
They sound like faggots regardless.
Also you know that you could eat sushi with your hands right?

>>8178181
>>8178184
I didn't know this, I thought it was custom to use utensils. Nobody at the party was using their hands.

>>8178191
>I didn't know that I can move a thing from one place to another using one of my hands

>>8178191
It is a custom but I'm assuming you went to a party with other white people who aren't Japanese so who gives a fuck honestly?

>>8178191
>>8178195

Only non-Asians and germophobes eat nigiri with chopsticks.

Sounds like they weren't your friends at all

>>8178176

Sushi isn't even supposed to be eaten with chopsticks.

>>8178195
It's actually customary to eat it with your hands, and there is certain etiquette for how you do it.

>>8178195
Not Japan but when I lived in Korea for a year I never saw Koreans eat comparable to sushi or anything without chopsticks. Even fucking soup.

>>8178307
>there is certain etiquette for how you do it.
Nope.
You pick it up and place it in your mouth.
Protip: Japs hate people like you who romanticize their culture beyond what it really is, weeb.

>>8178336
>Nope.
I mean, this is actually incorrect. I'm not saying there is strict etiquette, but there are certain ways one is supposed to do it if you're going to a nice place. Eastern and Western culture in how they treat general food etiquette is relatively different even at its base.

>weeb
Sure buddy.

>>8178194
Fucking autist. He's saying that he didn't know that eating sushi with your hands was generally accepted, not that he didn't know he could physically use his hands to put it in his mouth.

>>8178176
They sound like dicks. You said you didn't know how to use them and instead of showing you how they just stopped inviting you to things. I am kind of irritated for you.

>>8178176

Chopsticks are ridiculous and only pretentious faggots use them.

The Anglo knife and fork is civilised way.

One time I was having dinner with some family at a relatively nice local bar/grill. I was happily eating my flatbread when I felt a rumbling in my bowels. Thinking nothing of it, I prepared to release the kraken. Mistake. Shat in my pants. I had to stealthily make it to the restroom, where I cleaned up and threw my boxers in the trash. I've only told one other person about it.

>>8178442
This
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>>8178348
Incorrect, kid.

>>8178596
>actually using kid as an insult
man you're a cool dude, please tell me how to lower my self esteem to your levels

At a friend's cooking a take and bake pizza. He doesn't have a sheet or pan to cook it on, so we just plave it on the rack.
Once it's done, I go over and open the oven to get it only to find out he doesn't have any oven mits or pads, and tells me to use a towel because it works just fine.
Like an idiot, I listen and use one, only to drop it once the searing heat spears through the towel and into my hands.
I dropped the pizza and the rack it was on, but it landed face up, so only my hands were fucked.
Good pizza in the end, even if they laugh at the event every now and then.

>>8178176
You shouldve just eaten them with your hands. I've heard its actually acceptable in nippon

>>8178712
this
>own book dedicated exclusively to sushi
>literally has a page/diagram on how to eat it with your hands

>>8178176
>"sushi party"
>dipshits didn't even know to let you know that it's fine to eat sushi with your fingers

Let me guess, that """sushi""" party was nothing but pleb rolls, california rolls, mayo and avocado? And at the same time, they sound snobbish and stuck up.

I hate this meme of romanticizing Japanese culture and sushi ettiquete. For fucks sake, my mom is from Japan and she mixes wasabi in her soy sauce, nobody gives a flying fuck how you eat sushi.

>>8178176
>at a friends game night
>order pizza as no one can be torn away from board game
>get told to call pizza joint with orders
>some sniveling nu male asks me for a vegan option
>tell him to write it down for me because everyones jumping on me with their orders
>get everyone orders written down
>1 hundo bux of mom and pop pizza whatever
>pizzas come
>they got the order wrong for nu male
>he freaks out
>starts mumbling over it at the game
>starts losing in the board game freaks out more
>starts crying about his dad and other stuff.

Shit you paul feig wannabe it was just pizza.

>>8180133
>soy and wasabi
but how will smug Anthony Bourdain look down upon you now anon?

>>8178191
>Nobody at the party was using their hands.
Fucking white people

>>8180147
He'd just add a fuckton of saki to it and drink it.

>>8180149
Protip weeb: You're white.
Now go and do something about your yellow fever.

>>8180418
>actually taking that 1/10 bait

>>8178176
>Post embarrassing dishes or experiences you've had with food
Following an alcohol inspired bit of cooking I have this advice:

You might like bacon

You might like curry

You will NOT like bacon curry

Someone explain to me how chopsticks are not barbarian and actually have any advantage over civlicied eating utensils?

>>8178442
>knife and fork to eat sushi

>>8178712
The best sushi restaurant in the world doesn't even have chopsticks

>>8180425
It won't cut through foods

I use chopsticks if my hands are dirty if not then use my hands. my wife bites pieces usually taking two bites out of a piece. this grinds my gears.

the price you pay for Loli wife.

>>8180448
desu I take two bites because it makes the sushi last longer

t. eastern yuropoor

>>8178475
you got what you deserved for trying to let loose a huge fart at a public eatery

>>8180431
>Not eating sushi with spoon so extra amounts of soy sauce can be ingested with each spoon-to-mouth action

be honest guys, it is semi-autistic to butcher sushi with chopsticks instead of watching other people at the party to understand how you do it. probably also to shy to ask and probably made a superannoying show out of how funny le butchering of the sushi is. its disrespectful to the cook or autistic, either way is not good for dinnerparties

>>8178331
>eating soup with chopsticks

>>8180533
>The guy told everyone he didn't know how to use chopsticks.
>His "friends" didn't believe him.
>He ridicules himself by using them in a retarded fashion.
This is where actual friends would laugh, banter you and then teach you how to use chopsticks. Because they were friends only in name, they ostracised him and stopped inviting him.

>>8180563
so the word "friend" is the matter, since they clearly werent his friends. his behavaviour was still retarded and he probably knew beforehand that these werent his bffs

>>8180559
>He doesn't have ninja speed on his chopstick action to mimick the cat drinking water.

>>8178442
>at family get-together
>asian restaurant
>we are an asian famiry
>all of the elderly born in vietnam using fork spoon and knife
>all of my tryhard-assed cousins hellbent on using chopsticks for everything

>>8180566
His behaviour wasn't that retarded.
He told them he didn't know how to use them.
If he legit has no idea how to use them and only ever used fork and knife, there's no reason he couldn't think to use them in the same fashion.
Good friend or not, unless you're in a formal setting, the thing to do here is to instruct him.
Heck even when I learned how to use chopsticks it was at a business lunch in japan and the jap bantered me a little before showing me. And trust me that guy was pretty much business all the time.
You really have to be a shitty person to take offense of someone not knowing something when they tell you upfront they don't know it.

>>8178222
This.

I used to have group of... erm... "friends" (with quote marks intended) who were obsessed about Japan. I don't mind that fact, but at some point they began to have super elitist/weird behaviors.

>Tell one of "them" I bought frozen sushi in the shop
>They literally lose their shit
>HURR DURR FROZEN SUSHI OMG BLASPHEMY HOW CAN YOU BE SO BAD OF A HUMAN BEING
>It tasted pretty well to be honest. The fish was good quality/no 'fake' fish with chemicals to imitate taste.


>As I really like sushi, I decide to make sushi myself
>Got nori, sushi rice, fresh fish (I live near the sea), and even original wasabi
>Realise I have no rice vinegar to prepare rice
>I use regular vinegar, just less of it
>Come to my "friend" and offer her sushi
>She is happy, starts eating it
>Asks me how did I manage to prepare original sushi
>I tell her all of my steps, including the normal vinegar
>She loses her shit again
>Gives my sushi to her cat....... ....... ..
>Realize she is a retard and never prepare anything for her again :)

>Buy one of them asian scented oil as she loves scented oils
>"Whoa it smells so nice, it's so nice of you to get me japanese scented oil!"
>"Actually, the label says it's chinese"
>She puts out the candle
>I cringe hard
Please, avoid such people. Don't make my mistake.

>>8180622
jfc where do you find these people?

reads like a TV sketch. where are you from? what do these people do for a living?

>>8180622
PS. They were not asian of course. Two females and 3 males. 3 of them super fat and NEETish... stereotype much, huh?

>>8180631
I found them years ago in my school. They made a club called "KMJ" - Klub Miłosnikow Japonii (Polish name of : "Club of Japan Lovers"). I came to their club as one of my friends told me we will enjoy it. We did some fun stuff, were learning how to do origami, went to some Japanese classic music exhibit in theater.

These people were around 17-20 years old back when I knew them. I suppose the club somehow 'summoned' all of the Japan lovers from my school.

>>8178675
Towels work for non-retards

>>8180425
They're very good for keeping the food intact when picking it up, and manipulating chunk sized objects. but personally I find them most useful when doing the cooking as opposed to using tongs a spatula of a kind or a fork, lets me pick up and move pieces and bits of food like chicken breast or anything I'm frying without burning my hands.

>>8178348
yeah dude. go ahead and mix that wasabi and soy sauce together in a cup and dip your sushi in it. see what happens. fucking swine.

>>8180622
purists in all forms are trash

>>8178176
>never invited back to dinner party's with that group of friends
>group of friends
>friends

I think it's bad news time......

>>8180425
I find it much easier to eat noodle dishes with chopsticks. Using a fork to twist it always results in a huge, awkward bite, and you don't get much of anything else with it. With chopsticks, you can just pick up what you want easily and slurp it up. Especially with soup. I have no idea how I used to eat noodle soup with a spoon or fork, it's so awkward and the noodles slide everywhere
In short, chopsticks should be used where precision is key, forks/spoons when you need more stability

I got a rice cooker because I can't cook rice without burning the bottom.

I have the heat on the lowest fucking setting. What the fuck man.

>>8180425
When you have a dish of many varied bite-sized snacks, they allow to try the tastes separate instead of shoveling a forkful of stuff in your mouth.

Don't really make sense for food which you can eat with hands. And are purely a quirk when handling 'finer mix' like stir-fried rice.

I eat my asian food with chopsticks, because I like it that way. Also, they let me enjoy the meal longer. I'd shovel it all into my mouth in under ten minutes with a fork, without even thinking. They ARE inefficient as eating utensils, but in this case that inefficiency is an advantage.

> Rip all the sushis open.
> Drop into soy sauce.
> Add wasabi
> Add ginger
> Stir
> Eat with a spoon.

*coolface*

>>8183863
>*coolface*
did i just time travel

>>8183172

fucking kill yourself you retarded semi-living nu-male weeb faggot estrogen soaked nigger loving bitch.

>>8178176
spices (apart from salt) are overrated

>>8183881
>>did i just time travel

>It's already 2016
>and here I am, still posting on the 4chins

What have I done with my life

My confession is that I don't like onions. Garlic is okay in small doses though.

>>8183172
I'm like this too.

>>8183863

You all should learn proper sushi etiquette.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAJeUONc3b0

>>8184161

Jesus Christ, fucking lost. I was even falling for it at the beggining.

>>8184161
Superior Japanese rice folded 1000 times by samurai masters

>>8184161
The matchbox cars at the end get me every time.

>>8178675
you're supposed to fold the towel up a bit so you have more of a buffer

Only place I can see an issue with using your fingers for sushi is if you're lifting from a communal serving.

>>8180622
>>Asks me how did I manage to prepare original sushi
>>I tell her all of my steps, including the normal vinegar
>>She loses her shit again
>>Gives my sushi to her cat....... ....... ..
Unbelievably fucking rude

>>8178675
holy shit, why am i still amazed by the fucking autismos i see on this site every day

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>>8185071
>>8185071
>>8185071

More of a confession than anything else, but tonight I made some boxed Mac n cheese, and realized right after cooking the pasta that I didn't have any milk. So I used sour cream. I'm eating it now. It's pretty good.

It's perfectly acceptable to use your hands to eat sushi. Also, if you don't know how then watch what other people are doing and imitate it.

American spies during WW2 were too stupid to realize this. They didn't realize that Germans always eat with the fork on the left and the knife on the right. It's even more puzzling since most Americans do that anyways.

>>8184584

What's even more hilarious is that this video was posted on /a/ and /jp/ several times and there were people defending it.

Weebs are fucking retarded.

>>8180126
Please post pic? I use chop sticks mostly because eating withstands feels weird and uncomfortable to me.

Sushi is disgusting anyway.

>>8183922

Have you ever had walla walla onions?

They're renown for their sweet taste. I always go out of my way to get them whem they're in season.

>>8180488

Not to get all pretentious, but the best sushi should never have soy sauce. Maybe some wasabi, but never soy sauce. Sushi is actually all about the rice. I mean, the fish quality matters but it's nothing without good rice.

Then there's the matter of freshness. It's not better just because it's more fresh. The freshest sushi just has a hard texture and almost no flavor from the meat.

Fuck proper sushi etiquette. There is non. My Japanese (real one) friend ate sushi with fork once cause he didn't have clean dishes. He also admits that fork is superior. My other Japanese friend doest even like sushi and has never tried one. Eating sushi with chopsticks only is white weeb bs.

>>8185866

It's not at all man. The standard way (I've seen in Osaka and Tokyo) is to use your index finger and thumb or do something very similar with chopsticks. I mean, what your friends do is fine and who really cares; but in public, in Japan that's simply how it's done. I didn't make the rules.

>>8178442
i agree. i've been that faggot that bought his own lacquered set of chopsticks and insisted on using them for practically every meal. i did that for a year and sort of stopped over time.

i just liked using them, but i guess once the novelty wore off i realized that i was only cooking food suitable for chopsticks and stopped limiting myself

>>8185931

I bought a titanium set years ago when I was drunk off of some website. That also came with a bamboo pillow and a bunch of other stupid shit.

Moral of the story- hide your debit card from yourself if you intend to have drinks.

>me, non-white but born and raised in the US
>Girlfriend is white and from the Midwest, her sister is graduating from college in Florida and the family took us out to a pizza place
>bland Midwest palates so the only pizzas ordered were cheese and pepperoni
>whatever, don't complain since it's not my family and I'm not paying
>everyone enjoying the small talk, pizza arrives and the whole family is excited
>like really excited
>people taking pictures and start thanking the mom and dad for bringing everyone "to such a fancy place, all we have is pizza Hut back home in Indiana"
>server plates up everyone's first slice
>EVERYONE STARTS EATING THE PIZZA WITH A KNIFE AND FORK
>me, not paying attention just grabs my slice with my hand and does the vertical fold
>"wow that's an interesting pizza technique, anon"
>everyone looking at me the brown guy like I'm some sort of savage with no table manners

>apparently I embarrassed my girlfriend, she broke up with me 2 months later
>at least I fucked her sister first
>just kidding, I'm 32 now, never dated again, and never had sex

Well don't feel bad, shrimp nigiri is pleb tier.

>cooked nigiri.

>>8185866
>doesn't even like sushi
>never tried one

>>8180894
>he thinks mixing Wasabi and soy sauce is frowned upon

I don't mind you faggums appropriating my culture, but don't start adding shit to it. This was never something to be frowned upon.

That's like me going to McDonald's and telling you not to mix different sodas into one cup because it offends the cook.

>>8178336
I've lived in Japan the past 9 years and it's rare to see people use their hands for sushi. Pretty much always chopsticks.

>>8186171
I guess it's a situation similar to
>>8186135

it's what you're raised with.

>>8186135
>eating pizza
>with a fucking knife and fork
>EVER

These things were not meant to be eaten with a knife and fork, what the fuck is wrong with them

>>8186135
White dude here, any white people that eat pizza with utensils are crazy people, especially if it's an entire family. You dodged a bullet. She'd've probably cut your dick off while you were asleep or somerhing.

>>8186135

>been using chopsticks like a pro since i was 6
>move away to university and not use them for a year.
>grilfriend takes me to wagamamas
>you can use chopsticks anon?
>of course!
>pick em up in regular fashion
>something is wrong
>hand cramps and sends some beef flying onto next table while one of the sticks knocks over my drink
>everyvody is looking
>c-can i have a f-fork, please

Christ what a shitty thread. Everyone responding to the OP instead of posting stories.

>>8178176
They sound like a bunch of assholes to be honest. It wouldn't have made a difference if you used your hands, because they would think that would be unacceptable as well.

>>8185129
Some people have zero self awareness, or just do not care about others at all to the point where their rudeness screws themselves over. I'm just really glad I don't know many people like this, and I certainly don't try to befriend or associate with them. If everyone did that then the world would become a better place.

>>8186135
Your story sucks a lot more but I had a similar expirience.

>By some miracle girl likes me and becomes my GF
>Get along with her parents as well
>Be poorfag and never went on a holiday abroad
>Her family is more upscale, house twice as big, two new cars, parents were a high level Teacher and Middle management government worker
>Talk of holidays comes up over dinner, and get invited for a week vacation
>First night at pizza restaurant, about to dig in
>Everyone eating with knife and fork
>My physically retarded ass can barely eat with cutlery the "proper way"
>Struggle through that whole fucking meal while getting the occasional weird look
>Feel bad about being a failure in other small things as well for the rest of the week
>at least they were nice to me afterwards.
>still feel embarrassed about being a failure

26 now and I haven't had sex for 6 years at least.

>someone gives me chopsticks
>how do I use these
>you hold them like this
>OK
>WOW SKILL MASTERED THAT WAS SO HARD

Why are you so autistic, OP?

>>8187941
The model for Jack London's, "Martin Eden" novel. Probably have hands the size of gammons, too.

>>8188008
Is it worth a read? The summary doesn't really sound all that cheerful.

>>8178176

I can't really cook. Neither can one of my friends. We decided to cook for new years. Not even a proper recipe. We experimented. Pizza. Shaorma. Sarma. Pizzormala.

Pizza crust, shaorma filling, with sarmales around, all slathered with cream.

It had about the success that you are now thinking. None.

>>8187754
If OP's post contains a story, it appears on main page and people reply to it.
If he only posted the first part and then his story as an example in first bump, it would have worked like you want.

>>8187941
Privileged people usually know they're privileged and that other people don't do everything "the proper way". If they're not assholes they don't care.

>>8180622
>>Asks me how did I manage to prepare original sushi
>>I tell her all of my steps, including the normal vinegar
>>She loses her shit again
>>Gives my sushi to her cat....... ....... ..
I'd have broken her jaw, raped her, and fed her to her cat. Fucking cunt

>>8186166
that's an awful comparison lmao

>>8180425
lol idk if anyone else does this but I use chopsticks to eat crisps/chips because it sucks having the grease + seasoning on my fingers. Also when eating a halal snack pack or similar things I prefer using chopsticks to forks.

>>8180645
Christ. I attend activities of a local "Japanese Society" (for people interested in Japanese culture and abroad living Japanese people) and I've taken Japanese lessons for a year now and I never met people like this, thank god.
The only one that came even remotely close was a guy who desperately wanted to prove that he's not a weeb.
>"I don't think it's necessary for me to start in a beginner's class. I always watch Anime in the original language with subtitles, so I know a fair share of words and phrases. I'm not one of those japanophiles, though, haha. You see, I don't collect Anime figures."
Needless to say he didn't make it through the first couple of months,

>>8185982
How do you eat with metal chopsticks? I was given some in a dim sum place the other week and they just slipped right out of my hands.

>>8180448
What about your wifes son?

>>8178638
>taking 'kid' as an insult
nice projecting bro

I have to eat chicken burritos, not beef, chicken. my humiliation is complete. trademark model airplane guy gta 3.

>>8190355
They're more difficult than unlacquered wood beause they're usually thinner and have a slick surface. Just takes more practise.