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World Hunger: We Have Enough to Feed the World but Fuck You
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• 80% of antibiotics sold in the US are used in animal agriculture
• Animal agriculture is responsible for 18% of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions ( more than the combined exhaust from transportation [cars, planes, train ect, which make up a combined 13%])
• Livestock and their byproducts account for more than 32,000 million tonnes of CO2 per year- that’s half of the WORLD’S greenhouse gas emissions
• Livestock covers 45% of the Earth’s total land (a cause in rainforest depletion). As the population grows, we literally won’t have room for cows
• Methane (yes, from cow farts), is more destructive than CO2 on a 20year time frame
• Methane has a global warming potential 86x that of CO2 on a 20 year frame
• Even without fossil fuels, we will exceed over 565 gigatonnes of CO2 emissions by 2030, all by raising animals for slaughter
• We are currently growing enough food to feed 10 billion people (current population is 7.something billion[fuck u, use google])
• Growing crops for livestock takes 56% of the US water consumption
• 2,500 gallons of water is need to produce 1 pound of beef. And they ask us to take shorter showers? Fuck you
• 5% of US water is for private homes; 55% is for animal agriculture
• Don’t be a dick, go vegan. Or vegetarian or something.
Worldwide, cows drink 45 billion gallons of water and eat 135 pounds of grain each DAY! We have a high enough food yield to feed the whole planet, but we don’t, so that we can have fat fucking cows. We have starving people all over the world, THE GRAINS THAT WE FEED TO LIVESTOCK SHOULD BE FED TO PEOPLE INSTEAD. The meat/dairy industries are in close relations with pharmaceutical and chemical companies (hormone and antibiotic use). They are the one percent as well .

>> No.8177777
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>>8177771
We cannot solve world hunger. If you give more food to Africans they breed until there is starvation again.

>> No.8177781

>>8177771
And your point is.....?

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>>8177777
FUCKING FLAVORTOWN

>> No.8177811

>>8177771
Sure, let's make the world dependent on us for their food instead of having to get their own. That works so well with the black population in the country for their every day living.

>> No.8177816

>>8177777
Damn son where'd you find this

>> No.8177818

>>8177777
Truth
And not just Africans: any humans, and any animal species.

>> No.8177823

>white man gives us food
>black men with guns take food
>???

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>>8177777
Now those are digits I can get behind.
It still pisses me off how blind people are to giving billions to Africa, the ME and Israel but whenever we talk about keeping the money for Canadians in need they all say "OH BUT THEY NEED IT MORE THEN US!"
Let them die or survive on their own, global parasitism has ruined any chance for a good world political spectrum.

>> No.8177838

>>8177830
It's because you elected a hardcore feminazi.

>> No.8177841

Meat is higher quality food than vegetables

>> No.8177847

>gets
>reddit memes
>checking
on MY /ck/?? what in the hell is goin' on here

>> No.8177853

>>8177830

Fact: Africans breed like flies, whether their belly is full or bloated with hunger. To subsidize it, is criminal.

>> No.8177864

>>8177847
If this thread was yours you would be a janitor and clean this shit up.

>> No.8177874

I absolutely love the fact that we can feed the world twice over but we choose not too. Fuck all of you, we will do what we want.Nothing more and Nothing less.

>> No.8177876

I pretty much only eat meat and dairy. Had yoghurt for breakfast, corned beef and cheese for lunch and the same for dinner with some beans(buttered of course). Feels good.

>> No.8177883

>>8177771
So your suggestion is to stop farming animals, and ship the grain to Africa instead, increasing by 20% the shipping volume that currently produces more CO2 than cars and planes combined?

None of your points are particularly wrong, but your conflation of multiple complex issues in an attempt to imply a just so solution has resulted in an incoherent mess.

>> No.8177904

>>8177771
Ur a fagget

>> No.8177915

>>8177771
world hunger is an overpopulation issue not a food production issue

>> No.8177921
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>>8177818
it doesn't matter to them. its just a platform to fuel their hatred of meat products. they don't accept that there could be further implications with all these things that are a problem. and don't accept that sexual reproduction that they feel entitled to have is even more of a environmental sin than animal products. Look at a car, even an eco friendly car. In america you basically have to have one. then you have all the paper products and materials for schooling, updated constantly, the electricity generated for their computer and the cost it is to produce and the limited quantity of each resource they represent. Their human waste, which no matter what you eat will still be foul and have to be dealt with. All the water they wasted that could be grey water if they didn't have a fear of icky gross. and then and only then can you start counting all the things that they eat, and the heat expendeture of energy for cooking food. Plus any expenses of hobbies and physical materials they feel like having; beds, couches, books, tables, dishware. They all have to have them rememeber?

If vegans actually gave one fuck about the environment, the only thing they would be screaming about is that we need less people, Even in developed countries you fucking storm front white world apologists. stop looking at retarded number differences and feast your eyes on actual consumption of resources. The world needs to go back to pre-industrial population levels.

>> No.8177923

>>8177883
actually there is a point hidden behind all this nonsense
asian and african countrys should by all means reduce their meat production and instead focus on feeding everyone there
because this i a crisis there not here wich means we cant fix it for them no matter how hard we try

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>>8177883
i liek your stile

>> No.8177938

>>8177923
they are under the grip of political powers we created when we colonized africa, and under the effects of our most twisted missionary attempts, who can ply their trades like it's the 1500s in encouraging superstition about witches and refusing medical care unless you are christian, nor condoms to aids patients because abstinance, increasing disease. The simple handshake wont go away despite ebola. We basically ruined their world in the past, It's not their responsibility to fix it, but they are culpable regardless, because we can't and wont fix it. When any aid has to go through corrupt government that we refuse to depose, and the existing factions that exist to fight that government aren't necissarily any better, you have yourself a fubard situation, and we look at our country, with the divide between the rich and the poor, and our current candidate selection of hitlery, and trumpler. And resident doom paul, a dominionist(someone who belives america should be christian) is our most popular 3rd party representitive for president. Our political system is so broken all we care about is the next king we elect for 4 years and nearly no attention is paid to state and county level governments.

We can't fix africas problems if we can't even fix those problems in our own system. It doesn't change the fact that we created most of the problems in africa through colonization though.

>> No.8177939

>livestock covers 45% of the earths total land

Bruh.

>> No.8177941

>>8177921
Nah, just need to get space travel going properly. Then we can pull useful asteroids and shit for mining.

>> No.8177950

>>8177941
that doesnt fix our atmosphere dumbass. and you are basically deciding that "fuck being not retarded, we should keep living in pointless excesss becuase the future will save us somehow, not that I have any proof or anyone has any leads, it'll just happen becuase I found 20 dollars on the ground a week ago" when we could "stop fucking so much and scale back our population, so that we have as long as we reasonably need to figure out how to optimize space travel and that the act of doing so wont rape our atmosphere even further." We could have the cake you are eating for 100% certain but a vasectomy infringes on your inherit rights for your pee pee to feel a bit better. Certainly isn't the kid, we have plenty of those eating up space in orphanages.

>> No.8177964

>>8177950
That's not going to happen though. Humans aren't going to stop producing and destroying. The only chance we have is to push technology as hard as we can as fast as we can in the hopes we come up with some technological way to save us from ourselves. Look at where we were 30 years ago technology wise and consider how much further we could be in another 30, let alone by the time this shit gets critical for humans. We'll figure something out, and if not, mother nature is far more resilient than humanity, and I am sure it will continue on after we've walked the plank with our eyes wide open.

Also, I'm a fag, so I'm not having kids regardless, you hysterical baby.

>> No.8177981

>>8177939
What, haven't you sailed across the great inland Sea of Sheep? What kind of childhood did you have?

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>>8177777
PRAISE

>> No.8178021

>>8177771
That's fucking great anon. So tell me what to eat with B12 absorption issues, a tendency to anemia, and a rigorous martial arts training lifestyle. Let's not forget the soybean and gluten allergy. What recipes do I make? What do I eat?

>> No.8178024

>>8177938
>liberals actually believe this

>> No.8178027

>>8177771
You really think meat is the issue?

We can setup vertical farms, we could also not populate and sprawl over areas which can sustain crops. Nothing wrong with eating meat and there are plenty of solutions to solve food. We could even setup vertical cattle farms where methane is pat of a closed system. Not to mention developing a method of breeding where chickens and cattle do not grow a brain and we leave them in a lifeless state while feeding them.

That being said most of these animals wouldn't exist if they weren't going to be eaten. We would probably wipe them out because we are arseholes. Look at the hunting economy in Africa, people complain about it but it is the main economy of the areas which it is part of.

Fucking people who think like OP are delusional.

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>>8177964
>nihilism
just because you are right doesn't mean you should be.

>> No.8178092

>>8178024
>colonialism is a myth!

>> No.8178101
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>>8177771
Yeah, but if you kill all non-whites, then stabilize the white population at 1B, to say nothing of the advances that will come in biotech/agritech, there's actually no real problem.

Join your local Standarte today, faggots.

>> No.8178115

>>8178092
>tribalism is a myth
>niggers being too stupid to just continue what whites did is a myth

>> No.8178117

>>8177838
>you elected
No the people don't elect a Prime Minister, the people elect MPs to represent their riding. Its exactly the reason why nothing will change here even if they get new figurehead party leaders its still the exact same policies as 20 years ago.

It doesn't matter if you vote Liberal, PC or NDP each party will insist Canada has no culture or even a national cuisine and think that every Achmed, Pajeet and Johnny Chang's culture is Canadian culture despite the fact that its fucking wrong unless they were here since the 1800s and even those people are pissed at the current leaches coming in from China and raping our residential real estate markets.

>> No.8178130

>>8177771
Hopefully, if we invest into lab grown meat, (until production of such is cheaper then livestock methods) we'll be able to start utilizing the land, in which livestock are currently raised, for alternative food sources.

Possibly vertical hydroponic buildings running off of renewable energy sources.

>> No.8178134

>>8177771
>We Have Enough to Feed the World
>"we"

Man, fuck you.

People too stupid to have kids without the means to support them isn't my fucking problem, or yours, it's their problem.

Just because some bitch manages to shit out a kid doesn't mean "we" need to work OUR asses off to care for HER kid. Bitch can't feed the kid, then it dies.

I personally think idiots that burden society with their bad decisions, and the people like you that support them, should be culled from society.

>> No.8178170

>>8177771

>World Hunger: We Have Enough to Feed the World but Fuck You

We already feed most of the world. Without international aid Africa would starve.

>> No.8178182

>>8177777
First post best post

>> No.8178212

>>8178021
>While you learned about cooking, I studied the blade

>> No.8178234

>>8177771

there is no world hunger because white people fucking solved world hunger

nobody says thank you.

>> No.8178238

>>8178134
while I somewhat agree with this, people like you would be the first to complain about the smell when the bodies start piling up in the streets. We don't all live in our own magical bubbles. The attitude of "muh well it's not my problem derp" doesn't help society as a whole in any way.

>> No.8178252

>>8177771
>Livestock covers 45% of the Earth’s total land
All those cheeky cows on the North pole

>> No.8178258

>>8178238

Neither does throwing more aid at it.

Time to spread an infertility virus.

>> No.8178271

>>8178258
A several year period when only one or none children were allowed would go someway to helping. But it would be ruined by stupid people who didn't pay attention in school and can't think past the reality tv they're going to watch tonight and want to shit out babies.

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>>8177777
ckek has spoken

>> No.8178304

>>8177771
Dear environmentalist
The only thing /ck/ could actually GAIN from a more limited and controlled meat production is higher quality meat.
Thus I support your cause.

p.s.
1st world countries solving world hunger?
you are going to need hella lot more SOCIALISM than just not breeding cows to do that.
Good luck.

p.p.s.
Notice how I completely ignore OP is a raging faggot vegan

>> No.8178365

>>8177771
I want to enjoy a nice fat burger and jerk off to the thought that some starving nigger in Africa could've eaten like 10 carrots instead

>> No.8178381

>>8178238
>"muh well it's not my problem derp" doesn't help society as a whole in any way.

You know what does help society as a whole? Culling shitbags and bleeding hearts, like you.

The best way to help "society" is to help yourself, and that means to wipe your own ass and not expect your neighbor to do it for you.

>> No.8178389

>we already have enough food to feed everyone without having to go vegan
>somehow going vegan will convince the warlords who starve their own countries on purpose to change their ways

Go fuck yourself.

>> No.8178406

>>8178271

As I said, time to spread an infertility virus. Design it so IVF can still allow people to have kids.

Poor people won't have kids, problem solved.

>> No.8178930

>>8178406
Suddenly, Children of Men.

>> No.8179451

>>8178406
OR you could just spay/neuter anyone who's been or is going to prison. And anyone who's ever been in a terrorist group. Actually, fuck it, just go down to Africa and tell them cutting off your balls cures and prevents AIDS, they'll probably believe you. Now you have a start on solving that overpopulation thing.

>> No.8179470

Meat tastes good, starving niggers are irrelevant to me, all these problems are going to rear their ugly heads on a global scale after I'm dead, and neither me nor my partner want children. I have no reason to stop.

>> No.8179477

>>8177771
This is the wrong comparison. When Israel was founded and the Jewish population was sky-rocketing, did they start sowing all the arable land with seeds for vine and root vegetables?

Or was it feed, for chickens? A fuckton of chickens.

>> No.8179483

world hunger isn't world hunger, dipshit. It's world growth and world development. You don't feed underdeveloped cultures as much as they can eat, because they perpetuate the death cult of poverty.

>> No.8179519

will all these poor villagers do enough research to create nutritionally complete meal plans out of vegetables

>> No.8179861

>>8178115
>durr we whites actually got today because we're better
you got there becuase of retarded accidents and happenstance. south africa on the other hand was fucked from the start, since africa is AGAIN, fuck huge, and full of animals you can't fucking domesticate. No animals; can't fucking farm good. No farming, no civilization; sustained tribalism. You're one of those retards who doesn't understand how history, technology, and peoples develop. and no, People in power have no interest in sharing their wealth with the masses of africa, just like kim jon ill or however you spell that faggots name has no interest in it either. Theyre rich, they have power, no one can oppose them, so the only option africans have is to all die or keep their head down when their local dictator tells them to.

>> No.8179868

>>8178381
>durr we should all be selfish, thats the way society is meant to be
you are the reason that most countries have an absolutely massive disparity between the people who have tons of money and the people who have no fucking money.

>>8178406
>rich people can have kids and no one else
while this idea is terrible in morals it's probably the only thing that would actually fucking work, since if every poor persons lineage died off the wealth of the people would be increased proportionally. The only downside is it wont really work either because rich people are so fucking stupid, immoral, and greedy, that there's not actually enough of them to sustain an actual population in any given area.

>> No.8179900

>>8179868
>having 10 children without the means to support them and expecting everybody else to contribute their money to make up for your mistake
>not selfish

Choose one.

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>>8179861
>>8179868
>da rich white mayn be ebil
>dem blacks dindu nuffin, dey wuz noble savages n kangz n shiet

Either bleeding heart white teen or ignorant black man. My vote is for the former.

If you get a chance, watch Empire of Dust.

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>>8177777

Check'd and Kek'd

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>>8177777


Blessed be this post.

>> No.8179926
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8179926

>humans are meant to eat meat and have eaten meat for literally thousands of years
>we're supposed to suddenly stop and subsist solely on nuts and turnips

Or how about the world gets its population under control?

>> No.8179955

>>8177777
This, for every people on this planet.
>>8177771
You would put the onus of solving the world's problems at the feet of the US? We're fucking hated.

The schadenfraude from this election debacle is the only thing many find to be worth listening to U.S. events to be good for. (besides finding new reasons to hate us)

We have no obligation to feed, clothe, or render aid to the rest of a world that despises and celebrates when some camel fucker flies a plane into our buildings. None. Moreover, our attempts to 'solve' other nations' problems come off as arrogant and patronizing.

So, enough.

Let us deal with our own problems. If someone wants help, let them pay us for it.

Yes, there will be hunger in nations. Yes, there will be strife, war, crime, and hardship. But we must not act like we were put here to be responsible for every last impoverished village or war-torn country.

>> No.8179985

>>8177938
Africa today is causing it's own problems, I don't care what responsability anyone has or you perceive them to have over it
And Africa is the only one that can solve it. Sending help, sending aid doesn't work because they cause war over it because controlling it means power
If interfering once caused a problem interfering twice won't solve it
Same with the middle East, refugees only benefit the banks that amass huge amounts of debt from the government over the the actual solution to the middle East problem is to nuke the, stop immigration and let them have enough war with each other until they are either able to settle shit or not
I don't care how much guilt you have or how cute the drowning child is you are not making solutions only causing more problems, Japan rebuilt itself after the war, so did china

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>>8177777

>> No.8180220

>>8179926
As much as I hate vegans

A 800 calorie juice cleanse is flat out retarded

>> No.8180235

>>8177777

Checked and agreed

>> No.8180396

>>8177771
This image is so funny, as not all farmland is suitable to grow crops on. In fact overusing farmland is what led to the dust bowl.

>> No.8180404

>>8179985
>rebuilt itself after the war

Agree with most of what you wrote, but this is false. USica gave massive amounts of aid to both Japan and Germay to help them rebuild. To be sure, both countries' people worked their asses off as well.

>> No.8180647

>>8177777
Based chinese cat is based

>> No.8180713

>>8177771
I'll bite
Not all land that can raise cattle can support crops

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>>8177777
>>8179922
>>8179955
>>8180211
We thank you god for these sweet digits!

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>>8177777
halo yes tis is 4chn i wud lik 2 re;port sum quints

>> No.8181056

>>8177771
>• 2,500 gallons of water is need to produce 1 pound of beef. And they ask us to take shorter showers? Fuck you

The Mackenzie River has an average flow of 9,900m^3 /s
It dumps 99.999% of it's water unused into the arctic ocean.

If 2,500 gallons is needed then in a year;
264.172 x 9,900 = 2,615,302.8 gallons a second.
31,557,600 seconds in a year.

82,532,679,641,280 gallons a year.

33,013,071,856 pounds of beef a year.

However that calculation is false because the water use is total used not consumed. IE cooling water that is used in an electric plant that is returned to a river or lake is stilled counted as the 'cost' to make the electric power used in the processing of the meat. That's clearly insane.

Methane has an atmospheric half life of 9.6 years. So that in 20 years you have only 1/4 of the methane you started with. The calculation also ignores that once billions of buffalo once lived in North America. Or that billions of herd animals once lived in Africa. We are if anything deficient in animals.

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>>8177771
If 3rd world niggers wanted food, they would learn to farm their land.

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8181417

>we CAN solve world hunger
>it won't happen unless millionaires and up stop earning as much/start losing some of their wealth (no project, scientific breakthrough or law can get around this, even if you could download food there'd be the baker dillema)
>society is mostly run by those people
>they don't want to lose money

You can't end hunger in africa in this century without communism, and you know murrica's stance on that.

If you ended all wars and taught everyone how to live off the land you can bet someone would carpet bomb them sooner or later.

Money makes the world go around, unless you're PERSONALLY willing to disemburse it, all of it, all those millions or billions of dollars depending on your project, you'll have a hard ass time getting people with money to donate to you.

Yeeea we could eat bugs and less meat, but just try; open a bug restaurant in NYC and see how it fares.

tldr nigga forget it

>> No.8181459

>>8178021
>a rigorous martial arts training lifestyle

did you really need to big that up?

>> No.8181462

>>8178021
>What recipes do I make? What do I eat?

vegetables? responsibly farmed meat?

>> No.8181502

>>8177771
>We have a high enough food yield to feed the whole planet, but we don’t

that's not because there's not enough food. you literally say that we're producing food for 10 billion people, so obviously "grow more veggies" isn't the solution, most places where people actually die fro no food are Mad Max failed states like most of Africa

>> No.8181518

>>8177771
Where are you stats from? I'm not trying to shit on you or anything- legitimately interested.

>> No.8181523

>>8181417
I have a better solution for the Africa hunger problem: let them starve to death.
No man, no problem.

>> No.8181553

>>8177771

Someone explain these numbers to me. Google says "a steer weighing 1,000 pounds on the hoof will average around 430 pounds of retail cuts (steaks, roasts, ground beef, stew beef, etc.)." So one acre can only handle a little more than half (250/430) a cow? How the fuck does that work?

An acre is over 40,000 square feet. What piece of shit, bourgeois cow is going to snub its nose at that? I live in a 200 square foot box and you're going to tell me 40,000+ square feet isn't enough for HALF a cow? If that's true then I'm glad we're eating them, fuck cows.

>> No.8181562

>>8177771
>just grow nothing but tomatoes and potatoes
i want vegan shills to leave

>> No.8181565

>>8179861
>you got there because of thousands of years of happenstance
stop

>> No.8181577

>>8177921
>all white populations have stagnated or actually started in to decline in the last 20 years
>we are reproducing at below replacement levels
>the population of Africa has multiplied 5.5x over in the last 50 years
>the UN projects the African population to multiply a further 5-6x over in the coming 50 years
>nothing is being done to curb it and our current efforts are set to guarantee this eventuality
>there are more Africans than all 'whites' world wide
>Africa's food production has declined in many countries and stagnated in others
>the Chinese are currently making agreements to farm massive tracts of land throughout Africa
>Africans could do this themselves if they weren't mostly literally retarded by our standards 30 years ago

>> No.8181586

>>8177981

One that didnt take to new zealand.

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Meat is roughly 150 times more delicious than tomatoes, potatoes or carrotoes.

>> No.8181717

>>8177771
>We Have Enough to Feed the World but Fuck You

Exactly: fuck them.
You try to help them get their own farms going, but then they steal the fences for the wood
You try to give them medical aid, and they kill your doctors because they think they're evil witches who brought the disease upon them (ebola)
You give them food, they just get another 20 kids the next generation and the problem becomes even bigger.

They're too fucking dumb and selfish to even be helped. Any attempts to educate have ended in failure. Fuck, I remember someone who tried to educate them on condoms tell me a story: she explained how they worked and demonstrated putting on a condom with a broom. Next time they visisted, they all put condoms on brooms and thought that worked.

Africa is a fucking shithole for most of the part and don't for a second think you can "solve" the problem by simply throwing things at them.

>> No.8181727

>>8179861
>no domesticatable animals
>shit farming
>Better stay here

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>>8179861
I've got a little eye-opener for you right here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0C4_88ub_M

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>>8177777
My man!

>> No.8183806

>>8177777
fucking savage

>> No.8183831

>>8177771
As sad as it may be, some people need to starve. Our current population is out of control and the world is rapidly reaching carrying capacity. Starvation will help to slow down our rapid growth.

>> No.8183847

>>8181717
>Africa is a fucking shithole for most of the part and don't for a second think you can "solve" the problem by simply throwing things at them.

This is true of any place where the uneducated (Usually blacks, but not always, and sometimes asian or whites like Slavs) populate. See Also: Detroit vs Denver. Both places with lots of Social programs in force for over 30 years, one is a shithole and one is doing ok.

>> No.8183853

>>8177777
2 billion african niggers projected by 2020. Even more after that.

The west has effectively destroyed any chance of humans leaving this planet for the stars.

>> No.8183859

>>8179861
>animals
>can't be domesticated

Almost any bird or mammal maybe even fish can be domesticated.
Sure it wouldn't make sense to domesticate a giant porcupine that doesn't mean it can't be done.
Asians have dog farms for meat you trying to tell me Africans couldn't domesticate a wild dog?
People use to eat Guiny pigs, they couldn't domesticate a rat ?

>> No.8183876

>>8181735
Jesus fuck, it's frustrating watching this. There is like no work being done at all.

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>>8177771
Posts like these and the rest of the thread blowing it the fuck out are proof that vegans are retards.

>> No.8184217

>>8181417
ILLEGAL BREAD DO NOT EAT

>> No.8184275

>we

this collectivist thought process is the problem

"we" have no obligation to deal with the food shortages others are dealing with. Once I have everything I want and need, only then will I help people I don't know and who do nothing for me.

>> No.8184495

>>8177777
Spicy truth quints

>> No.8184516

>>8178117
It's simple. Kill the Jew.

>> No.8184530

>>8178117
>leaches coming in from China
Why don't Canadians buy that property then? It's hilarious how a bunch of communists make for such good capitalists.

>> No.8184567

>>8184530
They bring their dirty money in and scoop it up over middle class citizens.

>> No.8184852

>>8177771
You make a great argument for killing all livestock and feeding humans with the excess resources.

>> No.8184957

>>8184530
our people literally can't
we dont have the population and/or wealth to
For every dollar we have they have a magnitude more, it makes it even worse with those that are using it to launder money. They're trying to limit the laundering but the housing industry has been fighting against it, even if it was magically fixed there's no stopping the influx of foreign money buying up the industry. It's just going to keep getting worse too when the average millennial couple has to work for approximately 20 years just to be able to afford a down payment in hongcouver

>> No.8184973

>>8177771
PETA go home

>> No.8184978

Here's an idea:

How about instead of bitching and moaning about what other people are doing, you buy a few acres to farm and donate all the food?

Arable land is pretty cheap here in the US, and I'm sure you could find a few backers to fund a project like this

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>>8177771
how about those african nigs learn how to be civilized and grow their own fucking food.

think im giving up my thick cut porterhouse steams for some nigs.

some people i swear

>> No.8184992

i have money
i want beef
the market sells beef
ergo i will buy and consume beef
go fuck yourself

>> No.8185007

>>8184992
Here, here!

>> No.8185405

>>8179926
>diet
being vegan or vegetarian should never be some "diet", it's a lifestyle. And of course you won't enjoy it nearly as much when you're refusing to give your body what it needs.

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>>8177777
/thread

>> No.8185537

>>8184957
i have money
i want property
the market sells property
ergo i will buy property
go fuck yourself

>> No.8185564

>>8181735
That Chinese guy was so frustrated. He kind of lost it at the end when he started calling out the people of DRC.

>your country had access to railroads in 1931
>China didn't even have that technology back then

>> No.8185623

>>8177771
You again, fag?

You posted this same copypasta weeks ago and got thoroughly reamed out because your info is unsourced bullshit.

I'll repeat what I said back then: 1 billion whites going vegetarian or vegan is not going to offset the environmental damage caused by 6 billion Africans, Asians and others who are failing to provide for themselves.

There are many parts of Africa where virtually all edible animals have been wiped out. Bonobos (pygmy chimpanzees) are almost extinct because Africans have killed them all for 'bush meat'. Ebola and HIV crossed over to people because of bush meat.

So fuck you, I'm going to continue incorporating meat into my balanced diet. Take your bullshit, lying infographics and made-up statistics and jam them up your arse.

You want to solve global hunger, just reduce the world's population by about 2-3 billion. Don't ask ecologically responsible white people to radically change when we're not the ones causing the problem.

>> No.8185633

>>8185405
Vegetarian is just fine, but veganism really isn't.

>> No.8185650

>>8177938
>we created most of the problems in africa through colonization

So why do places like South Africa and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe instantly start disintegrating the second they're handed back to the natives?

Look at South Africa. Niggers got handed a fully functioning country with working infrastructure (even if it had an economy severely impacted by economic sanctions).

Within a couple of years it was falling apart, with a sky-high violence rate, unemployment etc.

Now its entire economy is based on Die Antwoord, Neil Blomkamp films, and three guys who run a shark diving operation.

Africa's biggest problem is Africans (it's no coincidence they're responsible for the majority of violent crime in the US as well).

There's a reason the ooga boogas are welcoming colonization again, this time by the Chinese. And those fuckers don't play nice when it comes to 'civil rights'.

China is exporting large numbers of horny yellow manlets with circumstantial jungle fever to colonize the womb of Africa with half shitskin/half-piss-skin kids, and if the fecundity there is terrifying now, just wait 30 years.

>> No.8185655

>>8179926 #
>humans are meant to eat meat

Baseless

>humans have done it for thousands of years

Utterly irrelevant

>> No.8185656

or we could all just embrace science and GMOs and eat things that taste good while saving the environment

>> No.8185724

>>8185655
Even the primates we descend from eat meat, you dopey fuck. Most of our genetic cousins (chimps, bonobos etc.) eat meat when they can get it.

www.vrg.org/nutshell/omni.htm

>> No.8185751

>>8181553
I'd also like to point out that faggot OP has claimed several times that cattle eat 135lb of grain per day each.

When I was working on a property raising Murray Grey cattle, those fuckers got maybe a gallon of supplemental grain meal each a day (normally flaxseed grist from an oil pressing mill).

OP is a faggot, his numbers are made up, and he's a faggot.

>> No.8185758 [DELETED] 

>>8177777

Is OP, dare i say it, expised?

>> No.8185771

>>8177777
Is OP, dare i say it, exposed?

>> No.8185787

>>8177777
no that's not how things work you eejit

>> No.8185811

>>8177777

This is assuming that the food isn't hoarded by the government, rebels, and criminal organizations, which is what tends to happen to humanitarian aid. What little aid makes it over there after the "charity organizations" have embezzled the funds, anyways.

The only thing that can fix Africa is Africa getting some imaginative, competent, hard working, and benevolent leaders, and the African people suddenly deciding that their #1 priority is looking decades down the line and building a future for Africa. Good fucking luck. People aren't just being biased when they say that Africa's biggest problem is that the average African has a low IQ.

>> No.8185824

>>8177777
Get a load of those fucking fazolis!

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>>8177777

>> No.8186357

>>8177771
Doesn't the EU flood africa with cheap produced meat that is left over due to over production? I think you do not understand how complex the global economical system is. If we would start to ship whatever is left over due to over production down to adrica, we'll fuck up their local economy, due to competition. Why buy an expensive local made object if you can buy a cheaper imported alternative?

Also, if we could archieve such a shift in production we'd just take the issue of global warming and took it somewhere else. It is not about how much or how less we produce or how many people start going vegetarian / vegan but about how to secure a working economy in regions where there is currently non. And think about it, would it be possible nowadays that you could create a new competant in our world?

>> No.8186373

>>8186357
>If we would start to ship whatever is left over due to over production down to adrica, we'll fuck up their local economy, due to competition.

In some countries they already have. Look at Haiti

>> No.8186390

>>8186373
To be fair Haiti has other issues as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3qfuEQ3b64

>> No.8186446

Why don't you kill yourself, then? Nothing uses carbon like a first-world human. Yet you choose to remain alive.
Why?
If you care about the planet so much, why would you do that?
You will produce 515 tonnes of carbon in your lifetime. That's 40 trucks' worth. Remaining alive is the equivalent of nearly 6,500 flights from London to Paris. I could fly there 90 times a year, there and back, nearly every week of my life, and still not have the same impact on the planet as your birth had. Not to mention the pesticides, detergents, the huge quantity of plastics, the nuclear fuels used to keep you warm.
Your life is a selfish act. It's brutal. You have condemned the planet to suffering.
In fact, if you really cared what you'd do is cut your throat open right now. Or I could do it for you. I could take out my knife, make an incision in your neck, walk away. I'd continue eating eggs and dairy and you would have done more than your bit for the future of the planet.

And you know who had the greatest positive impact on the environment of this planet? It wasn't some 'life is sacred' vegan. It's Genghis Khan. Because he massacred 40 million people. There was no one to farm the land, forests grew back, carbon was dragged out of the atmosphere. And had this monster not existed, there'd be another billion of us today, jostling for space on this dying planet. So put your concerns where your mouth is and either kill yourself and several others to help save your precious blue marble or make a meal of your cognitive dissonance and keep quiet about it.

>> No.8186462

>>8177771
kys vegan scum

>> No.8186614

>>8185650

To be fair, i have met many white south africans and i would go out on a limb to say that white south africans are the worst group of people in the whole entire world.

>> No.8187078

>>8177771
>hurr durr if I can imagine what it'd be like if the entire human race started acting a certain way, then that means it's realistically possible!

I bet you also start arguments with people who don't vote, you autistic piece of shit. Life will never be 100% fair to everyone who lives and will ever live, deal with it. Meanwhile, I'll keep enjoying my food

>> No.8187124

>>8185650
>they're handed back

It wasn't simple handover.

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>>8177883

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World hunger isn't as much caused by scarcity, as it is caused by war and politics.

>> No.8187377

>>8185623

We deforested Europe too, mass alterations to the environment and hunting animals to extinction aren't a problem.

The coming exodus of Africa into Europe is a problem, Russia and eastern Europe too if TPTB manage to bully them into submission ... but it doesn't seem to be working.

>> No.8188132

>>8187211
and the logistics of moving food. don't forget that

>> No.8190295

>>8183876

I can 100% relate to the china man.

In the west indies it is not too dissimilar.

Particularly with the gravel. I have been in that position before.

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>>8177777
t. malthus

>> No.8190372

>>8177771
There's enough food in the world to feed everyone right fucking now. Not everyone can afford food though.

Also if you think that paying $12 for a kilo of tomatoes is helping you're sadly wrong. You're taking up valuable ariable land to satisfy your retarded white-guilt fantasy. If you overpay for food you're essentially outbidding the poor out of a meal. So you're the douche man.

Thanks capitalism.

>> No.8190393

>>8190372
No shit.
If we switched all farming back, getting rid of all GMO's and using only 'organic' practices, 1-2 billion people would starve in the first year.

>> No.8190398

>>8177771
Dear moron vegan,
Eating organic/vegan is a first-world white problem.

Poor people aren't eating not because there's not enough food. It's because they're too poor to afford it.
Why?

Because retarded cucks like you will pay $30 for a pound of quinoa that's the staple of a poor country like Chile literally outbidding poor people out of a meal.
So yeah, you know that coconut water you cucks swear by?
It's literally no longer affordable to buy coconuts in many parts of the developed world because white people decided it's 'good for them'.

So when people starve, it's not because there's a lack of food. It's because you cucks are stupid enough to overpay for any and everything.

So thanks fucking faggots.

>> No.8190600

>>8190393
No. Provide source for such an imbecilic statement (and Breitbart doesn't count) or stfu.

>> No.8190754

>>8177771
So... giving up meat would help us waste more food?
you said we're producing food for 10 billion and we're feeding a maximum of 7 billion

>> No.8192033

>>8179926
aah yes, blaming a fucking juice fad on veganism. Classic!

>> No.8192342

>>8190398
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-09-09/just-when-the-world-craves-coconuts-the-caribbean-s-running-out

Case in point.