/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I swear you're the same baiting frogposter who makes anti-encryption threads on /g/

>morally superior
>domesticated livestock would stop being valued
>no reason to raise or reproduce them
>they go extinct

>>8178570
Why would you care about the abstract concept of a species and not about the billions of actual animals slaughtered?

Anyway, we could keep some of them in zoos. Happy now?

>>8178568
>If veganism is morally superior and eco-friendly
>If
You answered your own question.
Learn how to debate properly, newfag.

>>8178568

>>8178568
Veganism is a mental illness. Period. It should be classified as such. You CAN eat an omnivorous diet while still promoting ethical treatment of animals and sustainable farming practices, but most vegans are too mentally sick to understand this.

>>8178598
>vegan supporting zoos

This certainly supports the "vegans are mentally ill" concept.

>>8178568
because animals are delicious.

>>8178624
Yes, I'd consider having a couple hundred or thousand cows live in zoos an improvement over slaughtering a billion of them every year. Do you really find this unreasonable?

>>8178568
Because vegans, much like yourself, are annoying cunts.

>>8178568
>giving a shit about animals
>not being vegan for the health benefits

its morally superior but were addicted to meat. its like you have a heart for the animals but at the same time they are so tasty.

>eco-friendly

Enjoy your rampant desertification with no livestock to trample brush and protect soil from getting its water table baked out of it by the sun.

/ck/ is degenerate.

t. /pol/

>>8178781
>it's morally superior
aaaand that's why we hate vegans

>>8178805
Well, if you agree that animals have at least SOME moral weight, e.g. if you consider torturing animals to be wrong, then you'd have to agree that causing less animal suffering would have to be morally superior to causing more animal suffering.

Absolutely. Do you realize how much it would cost and how much land zoos would need to expand on to contain cows? Not to mention that zoos are cruel places where animals live in misery. Their only good purpose is conservation of endangered species and breeding programs, which is what they should only concentrate on.

>>8178568
>>8179005

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63NNuG-6-hQ
>Video related
To be born is to suffer. Vegetarianism results in animals not being born and therefore not having a life involving much less suffering than wild animals.

Vegetable crops also result in untold death from mice, rabbits and untold other small animals going through harvesting machinery etc.

Palm oil and soy are two major reasons for the clear felling of tropical rain-forest, and if you choose to substitute out these for something else, then that would be another reason.

To exist is to exploit, and pretending there is a qualitative moral dimension to veganism is retarded.

That being said, I don't have the giant hate boner for vegans that most of /ck/ does, even if I disagree with their reasoning.

I'll do my shit, they can do theirs. That works fine for me.

>>8179005
I certainly wish you weren't born so you didn't have to suffer.

Would you choose non-existence over your comfortable life with a guaranteed supply of food, medical care and freedom from predation and parasites?

>>8179057

>Vegetable crops also result in untold death from mice, rabbits and untold other small animals going through harvesting machinery etc.

That's true, of course. However, this untold death" is multiplied about sevenfold in the farming of crops used to feed livestock.

>To exist is to exploit, and pretending there is a qualitative moral dimension to veganism is retarded.

It's retarded when vegans scream "murderer" at anybody who isn't as vegan as themselves.

Nothing retarded about trying to reduce the amount of exploitation done on one's behalf. Some exploitation is unavoidable, yes, but if there are simple ways of reducing it, why not use them?

Vegans are annoying but we could probably stand to eat less meat overall, purely from a pragmatic sustainability angle.

>>8179102
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>>8179076
Also, I would personally choose being stunned with a surprise bolt to the neck over being chewed up alive by blunt ass blades.

>>8179102
>sevenfold in the farming of crops used to feed livestock.
Nearly all the animals in my country are grass reared.

I do have many problems with industrial fctory farming on both a moral and produce quality level.