/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>8086030
I can't tell you why it's so difficult or where to find a good one, but I can tell you how to spot a "fake" one.
In China they eat very few rice in restaurants. When I was there I had to ask several times until I actually got some, because I was sick of all the meat they put on the table.

>nu-males

Stopped reading there.

>>8086030
Because it's fucking disgusting thats why. American style chinese food is onjectively better
these are the same people who eat dogs and pedo piss eggs, exposure to whites has done nothing but improve their cuisine

>>8086056
>the same people who eat dogs
Iirc only the south does, the economically stronger north thinks it's barbaric. China is "only" as large as the US, but their cultural differences are much, much more grave than the ones between Democrats and Republicans ever have or will be.

>pedo piss eggs
While that's a problem, it isn't actually part of their cuisine on purpose.

Chinese Food can be pretty good at times.

Chinese immigrants purposefully modified chinese recipes to appeal to american appetites so they could make a living

Protip: if it's anywhere in Manhattan at all, it's very unlikely that it's authentic, regardless of the cuisine.

Manhattanites don't want authenticity. They say they do, but they don't. They really, really don't. They want whatever's new, now, next and trendy.

>>8086080
Wow. I had no idea.

>>8086056
>pedo piss eggs

What does this even mean

>>8086097

>>8086099
I'd have guessed he means this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXUfxSwNUZU

>>8086099

Didnt know pedos pissed eggs that gross. Or pissed eggs at all.

>>8086080
>>8086088
Yep. Fortune coockies? Californian invention.

It's was not just a matter of taste, it also has to do with the fact that a lot of ingridients were simply too hard to find in America till recently. It's one thing when Italians want to cook since most of the stuff the would find in Italy was brought to the US during the colonial period (Grain, cows, some spices, etc). On the other hand most chinese stuff stayed in china and as such the immigrants found whatever tasted similar and used it.

Fun fact: The term "snake oil salesman"comes from this. In China it was a common folk remedy to use the fat and oil from a certain snake as a rheumatism treatment among other things. When they arrived in the US they brought that knowlodge with them but there were none of the snakes here. Crafty cunts started taking similar snakes and seling the oil as an "ancient oriental medicine"and the term was born.

>>8086099
Wrong, those are century eggs. Different cancer. THESE are virgin boy eggs.

>>8086104
>fake eggs

Literally why.

>>8086104
How the fuck are chemical eggs cheaper to make than getting chickens living in cages eating their own feces to shit them out by the dozen?

>>8086030
Practically speaking, the easy way to get authentic chinese food is to go to a Chinese grocery with a hot food counter. If you see chicken feet and tripe you're in the right place.

>>8086107
>Fortune coockies? Californian invention.
They're actually from Japan. Pic related.
>virgin boy eggs
Jesus Christ. I thought you were referring to the ammonia flavour of century eggs.

>>8086117
In another short documentary it said that it is basically chemical waste they get for free.
>>8086116
Why the fuck not. If you're a highly functional sociopath and want some money to enlargen your child sexslave dungeon?
It's quite funny how socialist China probably is closer to the lolberterians ideology in that regard than any other (more or less) developed nation

Just use worse quality meat and other parts of animal and then it's authentic.

>>8086030

Fancy chinese restaurant is just a higher class of american chinese. It's got some authentic dishes but even then most old school chinese will probably just say that the quality of ingredients are incomparable.

There is no academic face representing the entirety of chinese cuisine and you would never go to a formal accredited school to learn how to cook authentic chinese cuisine. It's just a ton of regional specialities.

This probably applies to most cuisines barring the ones that have holed up behind academia like frenchshit.

Maybe you could learn a "style" like sichuan style at some fancy school but if you ever tried to use it in a context outside of the regional dishes aren't you basically just a fusion chef at that point.

Me at Chinese restaurant: Please, give me something authentic. I'll have an order of whatever your family eats on Saturday afternoon.

Waiter: One orda Orange chicken coming up

>>8086140
>undesirable cuts of meat
>tasting bad
This is why people say white people's food sucks
t. not even Chinese

>>8086056
>pedo piss eggs
Okay, so this keeps coming up. Can someone please elaborate further.

>>8086176
Some fuck in China collects the urine from schools that teach 8 year old boys or something, then boils eggs in the urine.

>>8086176
Sure. So in the Dongyang region of China, they pay prepubescent boys to piss in a big vat of eggs and then they boil it. Sells twice as much as regular eggs.

>>8086176

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg

Google it, you lazy asshole

>>8086176
>Virgin boy eggs or "tong zi dan" (Chinese: 童子尿煮鸡蛋; pinyin: Tóngzǐ Niào Zhǔ Jīdàn[1]) are a traditional delicacy of Dongyang, Zhejiang, China made by cooking eggs in urine collected from young boys.[2] Every year in early spring time, the urine of prepubescent school boys preferably under 10 years is collected and boiled with eggs and sold for 1.50 yuan,[3] around twice the price of a regular boiled egg.[4] In 2008, Dongyang recognized the eggs as "local intangible cultural heritage."[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_boy_egg

>>8086087
That's not really true. It's just that a lot of first generation immigrants aren't chefs with enough status to appear in the New Yorker, the Times, Zagat, etc. and can be very difficult to find if you yourself aren't part of that enclave or culture. Also, something that is prepared "authentic" may not necessarily be made by a great cook.

Lots of chefs from other countries came to NYC to combine their homeland's culture with the American approach to cuisine. It's uncommon for a great chef to be absolutely purely authentic in the United States at all, least of all Manhattan, where if you're not making money from your food, you fucking die.

t. Manhattanite

>>8086192
An egg is 0,75 yuan, which is about 15 cent. I'm not sure whether I should think that's cheap or expensive.
It's about 3x cheaper than where I'm from, but then again their standards are way lower and we're talking about china...

china is a big ethnically diverse place (don't tell a government supporter that though, oh my god), that's not even a logical request

>>8086184
>>8086192
>>8086184
So I get that there are a lot of cultural differences that don't really translate well (cheese for example sounds pretty revolting and bizarre on paper), but come the fuck on China! That has to sound fucked up even to other Chinese.

>>8086202
Good point. It's like asking for "Authentic European Cuisine"

>>8086204
But we can still list off a whole pile of dishes from throughout Europe, explain exactly what country (and even what region of that country) they come from, and know exactly where we can order it.

>>8086181
>>8086184
>>8086187
>>8086192

Holy shit. Here I thought that Japan was weird.

China takes the cake... and probably pisses on it and eats it.

>>8086030
China is a very big country,

Even though I am a Chinese who live in Macau,I won't say I know what is "actual Chinese cooking"

The cooking style has so big different even in the same province.

The common Chinese food in USA is actually Cantonese cuisine.

Which is not the most popular cuisine in China now,even though it is my favourite one.

>>8086192
That's fucking hot

>>8086215
It is just like Korea poo wine,99.99% of locals have never tasted one in their lifetime.

>>8086187
>>8086192

But why boys specifically?

The people in this thread are right, there are lots of different types of "authentic Chinese food." Lots of it is found outside of Manhattan. Flushing and Brooklyn's 8th avenue are good bets. Go where lots of Chinese people live, and see which places are crowded. Or yelp the specific type of food you want: Sichuan, Taiwanese, etc.
As for Manhattan, there obviously still lots of places that are authentic. Hot kitchen is pretty authentic Sichuan. Xi'an is a little whitewashed but a different type of Chinese cooking (i.e. western China) that you might find interesting. Kung fu little steamed dumplings is good for xiao long bao. Obviously there are a million little places in Chinatown, look for places that are crowded (with Chinese people, not White Devils).

t. gweilo dating Chinese (sorry, Taiwanese) girl

>>8086216
What is the most popular cuisine in China currently?

>>8086211
would we do so in a thread where someone asked where to find authentic European food in NYC?

>>8086194
>you can too find authentic!!!
>but authentic doesn't make money!!!
>so people don't open authentic restaurants because they're in business to make money!!!
>but you can find authentic restaurants even though no one's opening any and they don't exist!!!
wut

>>8086234
Hands down, it's probably because of this:
>>8086221
Some weirdass old local religious/militar leader probably had that kink and initiated the whole stuff.

>>8086238
...and to answer OP's question, it's hard to find this kind of food as a white person because most of them (surprise) cater to Chinese, have menus in Chinese, and assume that you're not going to like what they make so they don't bother to advertise or try to attract white people.
Forgot to mention Congee village for Cantonese food with a mix of authentic and Americanized. And wherever you go, ask for the Chinese menu. Best to have a Chinese speaker or just point to pictures.

>>8086245
It's easier to find than authentic Chinese but that doesn't mean we wouldn't point out the best places to find goulash, wienerschnitzel, quiche, or paella.

>>8086234
I'm guessing that the logistics of getting boys to pee in buckets are easier.

make friends with a chinese boy and go eat with his family. make sure his parents are first gen. note that the cuisine would be vastly different if they speak cantonese or mandarin.

best chinese cuisine is dimsum desu

>>8086234

cuz girls have cooties

>>8086246
Maybe I wasn't perfectly clear in my point, I was saying that it's uncommon for chefs in Manhattan to do pure authentic food, but it is possible to find.

Some of the reasons I listed were that:
-1st generation cooks aren't as famous or well connected as their contemporaries
-risking your business on authentic food that the locals may or may not like is a big gamble financially due to the extreme rents in the city
-most chefs from other countries aren't even out to create the most authentic menu from their homeland, they tend to mix styles

Generally the "authentic" food that I'm introduced to here in the city is from an immigrant friend who knows a guy who knows a guy, and that fiend speaks the languange of whatever the food is supposed to be from. Sometimes it's great, sometimes it's just ok, but they tell me it's the real deal, and I know that I probably wouldn't have been able to find this from some magazine or newspaper review or a food blog that I follow.

>>8086202
No, everyone is Han DELETE PLS

What the fuck is a nu-male? Maybe I'm dating myself, but seriously, what the fuck is it?

Also, different climates make it difficult to grow non-native ingredients. That's why it's either hard as fuck to come by, or extremely pricey to purchase at market.

>>8086268
Dim sum is greasy garbage. If it originated in America it would be considered junk food.

>>8086305
So what? It's still the most fun you can have with seven of your closest friends at 11am on a Sunday.

>>8086276
>you can totally get it!!!
>you just need to be part of the culture that makes it and speak the language and know a guy and make sure it's the third blue moon that month and that jupiter and neptune are aligned with aquarius and wait for hell to freeze over first to get it!!!
okay then

>>8086276

Well if you live in manhatten you should have money, so take a trip to wherever the fuck you want to taste authentic cuisine, realize it really isnt that good, and go back home.

Authentic usually means either once a year or scraps made into something decent year round, living in america you can have the once a year any time of the year, if you want to go eat cabbage soup you dont need to travel far, just go buy some cabbage, shred it and boil it in water.

Maybe throw a few pigs feet in there, wa la, authentic.

>>8086322
>>8086246
What is with this utterly over the top and oblivious hyperbole? Can you make a comment or argument without resulting in strawman statements?

>>8086030
I want to eat that shiny donut real bad. Where would one purchase a donut like that?

>>8086344
>repeating back exactly what anon says, only in greentxt is "oblivious" hyperbole
lol

>>8086176
Okay, it's this weird paleolithic belief system they have going.

They believe that desirable attributes from animals and people can be 'absorbed' through ingestion. Much like how in the ancient times some warriors thought that if you ate your rival's heart you'd gain his power.

They really think that circa current year. So let's say a tiger is a symbol of strength and virility. So if I killed that tiger and made it into soup I'd gain those respective traits. To them this is complete and utter gospel fact. Tiger parts, tiger powers.

So in China nothing is seen more lucky than having a son. Young boys are symbols of luck and prosperity. So the problem is not even Chinks are fucked up enough to cut up a boy and eat him. So they do the next best thing. They collect piss, which according to them is full of luck and prosperity powers.

>>8086300
It's a stupid meme term like 'alt-right' that's in vogue like 'hipster' was 5-10 years ago. Originally it was pretty descriptive, but now all attempts to discern what it means come up with conflicting results. Just stick it in 4chan's meaningless insult box along with faggot, nigger, fedora, neckbeard, pleb, and cuck.

>>8086350
You keep doing you, anon. :^)

>>8086030
>date a chinese girl
>ask her to cook for you
>???
>success!
Seriously. Or fuck, just befriend one if you are a nu-male. Delete this thread.

My chinese-ex made one thing for me during our brief but passionate love. A desert, which was sugar cane melted in milk with chopped papaya. She also got me some authentic chinese soup when I was sick. I didn't touch it. It was dumplings and some cabbage in some sort of broth. Lots of soups they eat.

>>8086243
Sichuan food is now No 1 in China.

It has strong flavour and the price is cheap,so young people and workers love it very much.

Although the "actual Sichuan food" is hard to find too.

>>8086366
A billion Chinese can't be wrong. How much shota piss do I have to drink to win the power ball?

>>8086370
And flyover! Don't forget flyover! I mean I don't like em either but -god damn- it's like listening to Rain Man muttering half the time in here.

>"Flyover, definitely flyover. Time for Wapner..."

>>8086377
>It was dumplings and some cabbage in some sort of broth.
bruh that was wonton soup

>>8086383
No, it wasn't. If it was, I would have ate it, bruh.

>>8086305
you're greasy garbage

>>8086292
wumao go home

>>8086366
See, the trouble is that the good fortune properties naturally found in boy piss is lost in the boiling process. To glean the real benefits it must be drank directly from the spigot. But that is illegal in most places.

>>8086380
what is the greater power level, a billion lions the size of the sun or a billion chinese on the power of shota eggs

>>8086409
>See, the trouble is that the good fortune properties naturally found in boy piss is lost in the boiling process. To glean the real benefits it must be drank directly from the spigot.

Kek.

I wonder if someone can actually get those chinks to believe this and they all start doing it.

Theyre the most superstitious motherfuckers on the planet.

A lot of chinese restaurants (outside of fucking Manhattan anyway) do authentic dishes that aren't listed on the menu, which chinese customers (the only ones who want the stuff) will just expect them to serve & order in mandarin. The main thing i'm talking about here is congee (rice porridge), oily breadsticks & various kinds of preserved egg

Otherwise the usual kinds of actual chinese food that shows up a lot are; dumplings, steamed buns, fried rice, soup noodles etc. The only stuff that's basically never legit is the whole strips of meat fried in syrup thing (general tso, orange chicken etc)

The most straightforward way to get a taste of real chinese cooking is go for Dim Sun

authenticity is a marketing gimmick to sell shit that doesn't actually taste good.

>>>Flushing

>>8086030
look for steamed food that isnt using oil,flour,sugar

legit chinese .... taste is not so good when you are used to McDonald's burgerking, lil ceasars and cup o noodles

your taste buds are blasted same shit witn Japanese food its light flavor isnt conducive to shit loaded palates

>>8086745
>japanese food
>light flavors

>>8086078
>China is "only" as large as the US
Friendly reminder that population of China is bigger than this of USA, Europe and Russia added together

>>8086233
It's really not. I lived in beijing and piss eggs are really common, you can buy them everywhere. Never heard about pedo piss eggs though.

>>8086030
Here in the UK, especially LONDON and other major cities you just want to go to your Chinese markets for authentic Chinese ingredients.

Authentic restaurants are harder to find and usually tend to be tucked away. Go to your nearest Chinatown and look for places most populated by Asians, if they offer both English and foreign menus you're in for legit food usually

>>8086748
go eat that junk shit
its not what keeps folks living for a hundred years

>>8086030
watch "A bite of china". similar food is not impossible to find in the US. but first you have to know what to look for.

>>8086843
Huh?

If you live near a large city with a Chinese community, there will be at least one decent dim sum place. Go there.

>>8086030
I have been able to find authentic Sichuan, Hunan, and Northern Chinese food in my area, that's surrounded by a large amount of Cantonese cooking.

Northern Chinese food is very surprising. No rice is served and if you want any carbs with their food, you gotta order dumplings and noodles. But I love the pork and mushrooms meals. You'd think it's muxurou, but not really. I don't even know what it's called, but it's got a crapload of mushrooms and other vegetables in it.

>>8086843
What exactly keeps people living in Japan for a hundred years plus?

>>8086234
>this is your first thought
jesus christ

>>8086030
>Obviously I know that American Chinese food isn't authentic and has basically nothing to do with actual Chinese cooking, but why is it so fucking impossible to find "real" Chinese food?

Do what I did - just cook it yourself. Something like Hong Shao Rou is fuck easy and most of the dumplings aren't challenging either.

>>8086843
Well there's miso, which is a staple in japanese cooking. It's nice, but really anything but light in flavour.

Bump

>>8086030
It's a bit of a trip for you OP, but

http://www.pinweikop.com/our-menu.html

>>8086192
>traditional delicacy of Dongyang,
more like yang dong, amirite?

>>8086097
they crack the shell of the egg and cook it in little boy piss

no
fucking
jokes

note they only crack the egg enough for the piss to get inside the egg but not enough for the egg to to fall out of the shell

>>8086163
What retarded people say that? Black cultural food is dirt cookies, and Hispanic is all variations of rice and beans. This thread alone shows Asian countries eat weird ass stuff but is generally better than the first two. White people actually make the best food worldwide from Italians to French and other recipes you think black people started like cooking chicken a certain way or gumbo was originally made by whites too.

>>8086030
thanks doc

>>8086030
NYC is a fucking shithole and needs to be nuked to oblivion.

>>8088099
Racist and misinformed as fuck.

>>8086030
Definitely go to flushing, it's highly populated with Chinese immigrants so the food there will be close to authentic.
In general if you want authentic, don't be afraid to check out dingy looking restaurants that only have Asian people inside who speak little English.

>>8088226
Really? I don't see you proving otherwise you moron.

>>8088099
what's the etymology of the word gumbo?

>>8086099
>>8086097
century eggs and virgin boy eggs are two different things
how are people in this thread so dumb that they can't even do the slightest cursory google search

>>8088390

Apparently it is the word for Okra in the languages from western Africa. Check out one of the episodes of "Mind of a Chef" with Sean Brock traveling to Africa; it goes into the roots of Gumbo and how it evolved after it was brought by African slaves to the US south.

>>8086238
>look for places that are crowded (with Chinese people, not White Devils
This is what I do, I look for the place with the highest percentage of Chinese people, look over to what they have ordered and order the same.

>>8086378
I live in the UK and there are a few places I've been that do Sichuan food, not sure how authentic it is but most of the people in the places I go in are Chinese so hopefully it is.

first time I encountered chinese home cooking I nearly gagged

they were stewing chicken feet in the middle of summer in Texas and they wouldn't use AC. Some white guy was dating one of the chinese girls and he pretty much had a harem of them and they all worked at McDonalds

>>8086030

Capital Seafood in Garden Grove, CA. Been going there for 15 years, even though im in Riverside County now, I always make a point to go when i pass through. Authentic as it gets.

Chinese kitchen is the same as chinese medicine and chinese divination. Some herbs will help anyone, but it takes a lot of knowledge to actually choose your medicine correctly. Chinese divination is also not what it seems to be - things like I Ching are a form of meditation and a guide of thinking by symbols and self-discovery, to find the best advice for the situation.

Chinese cooking and food requires some knowledge in the same way. It can be tasty for anyone, but to fully appreciate it you need to understand it. Especially the kitchen of five changes. Each meal can be an philosophical essay in the way.

Here, I'll give you a great newbie place to start if you want to taste authentic chinese kitchen. Follow the recipe:

1 cucumber
1 TSP salt
2 TSP sugar
2 TBSP rice vinegar
1 TBSP sesame oil
1 TBSP soya sauce - LIGHT, not dark!
2 cloves of garlic
2 chili peppers
coriander

Slice cucumber into quartes and than into big slices. Put to the bowl, add half TSP salt. Slice garlic, halve chili peppers, tear coriande. Add it all to the bowl.

Put everything what's left into a jar (only half of TSP salt, we already used the other half). Shake it for a long time. Longer better. Add to the bowl. Mix it. Leave it in the fridge for at least 20 minutes. Will be better after one night though.

>>8088752
Chinese medicine is a scam m8

>>8088798
okay, you do you.

>>8088752
>not smashing the cucumbers
Discarded

>>8086056

>onjectively better
>this entire post

kill yourself my man

>>8086935

little boy anime

no, but for real. healthy diets, lots of green tea (helps with the alzheimers big time), decent amount of exercise

>>8088099

>SO DERES FOUR KINDA PEOPLE ON DIS WORLD
>DERES DEM NIGGERS WHO MAKE SHIT FOOD
>DERES DEM GRINGOS WHO EAT BEANS N RICE ERRY DAY
>DERES CHINKS WHO EAT DOG AND WEIRD ASS SHIT
>N DERES WHITE PEOPLE
>THEY MAKE BAGETEE SPAGETTI N BURGERS N SHIT

>>8088379

>someone somehow has to "prove" that mexicans actually eat something that isn't rice and beans

tacos
burritos
fajitas
quesadillas
empanadas
churazco

???

please just off yourself

It's easy to find here in Hongcouver, same with Americanized. There's different regional cuisines of course, it's a big country.

Honestly, I'm not a fan of Americanized or Authentic, but I haven't had every regional kind. Most notably, I haven't had Szechuan which a lot of people like the best.

>>8086243

KFC

I've been trying to get into it, and you are right; it's harder than a lot of others

the first thing I realised was that our "chinese food" is highly westernised
piles of sugar, msg, honey and soya everything

then I realised it was all western ingredients substituted for the traditional ones, mainly for cost reasons, sometimes due to availability

then I worked out that a lot of chinese people can't cook chinese
second generation started buying pre-made, and third generation often wern't taught at all
I see chinese people in asian supermarkets and many buy everything pre-cut, pre-washed, even pre-mad meat skewers vacume sealed

also china is a big place
like I REALLY big place, on one side it's flush against india

Cook it yourself. This is a food and cooking board. You mirin my beef noodle soup, OP?

That's like asking what authentic European food is. It's a massive area.

Plus most of the Chinese that emigrated back in the day were from Guandong & the south, so that's the food they took with them, and then it got turned into essentially fast food.

Try and search for Sichuanese food, if you're form a big city there should be someone selling it. Also food from Xinjiang is delicious.

peking duck spring rolls

not really authentic, but still great

>>8092339
early attempt at sichuan hotpot

the ones I'm doing now have much more chilli, less cardamon and more soup

the flatbead has actually become a staple, it's a good side for just about any northern chinese

>>8086397
Canto nigger

>>8092346

chinese bbq from chengdu.

>>8092545
>>8092346
Nigger, this is hot pot.
From chengdu

>>8092563
And this is what goes in it

>>8092564
Pig btw. Not much flavour. Apparently not healthy. Cholesterol or something

>>8092563
my hotpot looked much the same, just when one eats alone the ceremony is usually withheld

what was the flavour profile like?

>>8086300
anthony burch

>>8090143
wow what do they fill those things with?

>>8092564
>>8092567
>eating pigs brain

I suppose they told you it was a delicacy, that or you were really poor

there is no reason to eat brain other than by necessity

>>8092756
no one told me shit, asshat. I was curious.

Lambs brains and pigeon brains are delicious so I wanted try pigs brain.

>>8092769
well, I suppose if you actually like brains I'l take that back

I figured nobody liked them, I've eaten most things under the sun but I guess I just disliked brain personally

>>8086151

as a chinese person, this made me laugh.

>>8088099
>Hispanic is all variations of rice and beans
Hahaha aha oh wow you're serious. HAAAAhahaha

>>8092835
Once went to an Bengali Chinese restaurant with some friends. We all ordered except this one white girl from the Midwest who was nervous about the menu (yet agreed to go with us to eat Bengali Chinese food, wtf).
The waitress, a Bengali woman in a head scarf, comes over to take our orders then tries to suggest something for the Midwesterner:
>do you like spicy?
Yes.
>do you like mango?
Yes.
>do you like shrimp?
Yes.
>then spicy mango shrimp.
We all laugh and she acquiesced to the suggestion. Our food came out she seemed quite pleased with her spicy mango shrimp.

I think it just has to do with being born into the Chinese culture. Like, myself, I was born in usa ... So I was adapted to potato chips, Kool-Aid, tendies... etc.

Best way to find more info would to find a native Chinese person who had like, mandarin as their language ... idk

>>8092873
Yeah good point.
Did you see the kfc leaked recipe?

>>8092867
> Bengali
> Chinese

Then again, authentic Chinese food isnt anything special for the most part. Inscrutable Chinese generally is just a bullshit meme like magical shaolin monks.

>>8092893
There's a fucktonne of Chinese salarymen in Dhaka and Chittagong. Their bored wives started Chinese restaurants. Then, when no natives would eat there and other Chinese all have housewives to cook at home, they had to change their recipes to suit Bengali tastes and so, Bengali "Chinese" cuisine was born. It's mostly quick stir-fries like other fast food Chinese around the world, but with lots of chillies and elements of sweet and sour in almost everything. Also, unsurprisingly, less pork than would be typical.

And it seems like goddamn everything has baby corn in it. I think Bengali people must eat the most baby corn per capita as it's in fucking everything. One of the most popular dishes is pieces of cut up chicken thigh stir-fried in chicken grease with garlic/ginger/chilli paste and, you guessed it, baby corn.

>>8086255
Good comment. It's a shame it's burried.

About going to an authentic chinese restaurant as a non-chinese person:

In a lot of cases, THEY DON'T WANT YOU THERE.
If you do find somewhere authentic, be prepared for absolutely terrible unfriendly service and long, long waits.
That's your hint that they don't want white people in their place.

>>8093255
motherfucker if you give me bad service cos im white i will recommend ur ass to freinds so hard u will have frisbees coming out ur asshole

>>8088752

>>8093970
>>8093981
>>8093995
>>8093998
Sauce on film?

>>8094014
Eat Drink Man Woman.

i worked with a chinese woman from china and even she thought authentic chinese food was nasty

>>8093255
What if you just get takeout

>>8094327
That's not saying much, the average person from around here would turn their nose up at anything more complicated than a McGangBang.

>>8088398
>century eggs and virgin boy eggs are two different things
>how are people in this thread so dumb that they can't even do the slightest cursory google search
I just assumed it was a reference to the ammoniacal smell of century eggs. I'm sorry for giving the Chinese the benefit of the doubt over soaking eggs in children's urine.

>>8086030
Some one post that dog getting tortured before it was cooked alive

Thats why its so hard to find you fucking numale

Look at that fucking skin, it's like glass.

>>8086344
He doesn't have friends so he can't know "that guy" nor be part of "that culture."

>>8086348
I think that's jello

>>8094327
I had a Canto cleaning lady for years. She was from HK.
Five years ago, she went to China for the first time (though from HK, she'd never been to China itself before then). She said that what mainlanders eat is 'horrific' compared to what she's used to. I can't confirm or deny what she said, but she implied that outside of cities, mainlanders eat the most disgusting shit possible and even IN cities, you have to be careful what you order because Chinese outside of HK are unscrupulous and evil.
I've been to HK and Chinghai, but my experiences with food there was pleasant. I enjoyed it quite a lot, actually.

>>8086377
>I didn't touch it

Fuck you're ignorant. Proud of it too.

>>8088892
anon, smashing is just to let the flavour sink into the cucumber faster. if you have time to wait and let it be, then you don't have to do that

>>8086107
Wow, next thing you'll tell me, orange chicken isn't authentic either! What mindblowing facts!

>>8086030
just kill a dog and cook it in gutter oil, op

>>8086300
think spoiled, rich entitled yuppie scumbag.

>>8086238
Adding onto this, if the menu is in exclusively Chinese then you're onto a goodun.

>>8086030
You need to go to New Chinatown and go into the place without English on the sign.

>>8088839
Not that anon, but it's literally "magic" bs.
If the results were actually empirically reproducible then it would just be medicine.

>>8094310
Just sayin, that's a goddamn terrible title translation.

>>8093255
fucking idiot. if you know anything about the chinese you'll know that courtesy doesn't factor into dining. it has nothing to do with race.

>>8086546
>whole strips of meat fried in syrup
I've had this shit in Beijing, tasted nothing like general tso or orange chicken or whatever, but it still has a place in authentic cuisine.

>>8086030
>Obviously I know that American Chinese food isn't authentic
autism

>virgin boy eggs

CHINA GETS EVEN WORSE

>>8090138
all wrong it's because they're manlets

manlet = heart doesnt' work as hard

>>8092745
Meat? Vegetables? Are we really doing this? Maybe it's time you headed back to the safespace.

>>>/pol/

>>8086030
Is authentic = rustic or what?

>>8098810

>some guys venting about his job
>WTF I HATE CHINKS NOW

the only really bad story were the cop and the doctor

>>8096221
Hongkongers are just generally racist against mainlanders. I wouldn't take what they say about mainlanders too seriously.

>>8086046
Think he was being sardonic, anon. How often this happens on here is kind of disappointing. Thanks for your contribution.

i want to fuck that donut

>>8099218
>are just generally racist against mainlanders
>racist
That's not how that word works, friend.

>>8099551
Well whatever the equivalent word is given their differences, friend. It ends up being the same thing anyway.

>>8099744
I think you mean biased. To a point I do agree with you.

>>8086128
>They're actually from Japan.
[citation needed]

>>8086030
It's easy to find in Toronto. Hakka food is pretty good.

I personally prefer shitty American Chinese food to authentic Chinese (virtually all regions). Chinese food doesn't do it for me (and yes I've been to China for 2 weeks and ate lots there).

If you speak Mandarin/Cantonese as a white devil they'll get delighted and give you access to the actual Chinese food*

Its gotten to the point where my local "general-tsao's-and-sesame-chicken" takeout place gives me sichuan chili tripe and soft stewed chicken feet when I ask for "tzenxhong zonguo tsai"

I only took 2 semesters of Mandarin and I'm not very good at it, but its enough for simple shit like please, thanks, how are you, etc; plus Chinese like feeling superior to non-Chinese.

*NOTE: they will probably hate you if you use Cantonese for a Mainlander ot Mandarin for a Hong Konger

>>8099875
They'll also get delighted if you simply order stuff that's not on the whiteboy menu.

I'm white as can be. I shop at the local Asian market/restaurant often. I ask for things like chicken feet, duck liver, and pig's blood (which, ironically, I use to make European dishes). The staff knows me now and they're always pointing out products they think I might want, inviting me into the back for their staff lunch, sharing cooking tips, etc.

>>8099814
>Fortune coockies
As far back as the 19th century, a cookie very similar in appearance to the modern fortune cookie was made in Kyoto, Japan; and there is a Japanese temple tradition of random fortunes, called omikuji. The Japanese version of the cookie differs in several ways: they are a little bit larger; are made of darker dough; and their batter contains sesame and miso rather than vanilla and butter. They contain a fortune; however, the small slip of paper was wedged into the bend of the cookie rather than placed inside the hollow portion. This kind of cookie is called tsujiura senbei (辻占煎餅?) and is still sold in some regions of Japan, especially in Kanazawa, Ishikawa.[2] It is also sold in the neighborhood of Fushimi Inari-taisha shrine in Kyoto.[3]

There is one legitimate Chinese cooking show on Youtube but it's in Chinese and they stopped uploading content earlier this year. So you kinda have to speak Chinese or know someone who cook it well to teach you.

>>8101181
Anyways pork is the easiest dish to learn since it's either sliced really thinly and cooked fast in a super hot pan or you braise the whole thing.
Pic is Chinese pulled pork

>>8101188
braised pork

>>8101190
Chinese sweet and sour pork. Anyways, get the necessary ingredients and learn the techniques and everything else is just experiment.

>>8086030
'real' chinese is shit like white rice and moldy fish with a side of fetus wine

just like all third world cuisine, it took going to America and using good ingredients to become something good

>>8098521
nah, it totally does. The difference between going into a restaurant with a fluent speaker and without one is night and day

>>8086366
>They believe that desirable attributes from animals and people can be 'absorbed' through ingestion.
That's only true of drinking blood.

>>8086255

>>8093970
>>8093981
>>8093995
>>8093998

>>8101273
my ex was chinese. ive been all over china.

you're wrong, simple as that.

>>8086163
>>undesirable cuts of meat
>>tasting bad
>This is why people say white people's food sucks
What did you even mean by this? If you think that white people think that undesirable cuts of meat taste bad, then surely white people don't cook with them, so how could that make their food suck? Unless you're saying that white people's sense of taste is backwards and undesirable cuts taste good and desirable cuts taste bad.

>>8086056
>Laziji is objectively worse than US oily fatty sugary gunk on soggy meat
kys faggot

>>8101273
If you're a foreigner they'll suspect you're an asshole and watch you carefully.

If you don't act like a autistic asshole they're realize you're cool in about 5 seconds and treat you the same as everyone else.

You're probably just an asshole.

>>8086117
They are not from Japan, the fortune cookie was invented in San Francisco. The Japanese make a similar tasting cookie called Sembei, but it is not a fortune cookie.

>>8103091
Sorry, replied to wrong post

did u just call yourself a nu-male

>>8086030
>every time I ask someone about a fancy Chinese restaurant, they always tell me it's not "real" Chinese food
>I live in Manhattan
They're just saying that because it makes them sound more cultured than you. We have multiple restaurants that specialize in regional Chinese cuisines, and we also have a Chinese ethnic enclave with a shitton of restaurants. Which Chinese restaurants have you gone to?

Went to a Chinese restaurant today, everyone except me and one other table of two were Chinese. The other people sent back their food twice and then complained it was too spicy. During the whole procedure they took pictures, at least 10, getting up and moving around the table and standing to take pictures of the restaurant and other tables.
This is why we can't have nice things. Though I had a great meal, just embarrassed about their behavior on behalf of my race.

>>8104066
>sending food back

>>8086151
>Please, give me something authentic. I'll have an order of whatever your family eats on Saturday afternoon.
If I was the waiter I would have spat in your food for being a pretentious faggot

>>8104066
god, no wonder they hate us

Posting some pics chinese food I ate.
Chicken feet and deep fried bugs are the best imo no joke. Also root of lotus flower.

1/?

>>8104378
2/?

This is what chinese think western food is, they think pizza hut is all we have.

>>8104387
3/9

Jellyfish soup. The fish had 0 bones.

>>8104392
4/?

3 plates full of that meat, shit was expensive.

>>8095991
>>8101188
>>8101190
>>8101209
>>8104378
>>8104387
>>8104392
>>8104400
Shit looks disgusting

>>8099150
>mass fraud by three different companies
>not that bad

>>8098810
Download the Opie nd Anthony show when Patrice O'neil talks about how unbearable chinese people are, and have no social skills and human empathy.

It was fucking hilarious.

>>8104400
Damn, that's a fancy lookin' hot pot place.

>>8086030
>why is it so fucking impossible to find "real" Chinese food?
What are you even talking about?
Costco sells orange chicken and rice.

>>8101190
I just came

>>8086030
Because the average Chinese cuisine in served in China lacks finesse. It may taste ok but there is just too much bone in the food. They chop up everything as it is and create even more bone fragments in the process. Then they throw everything in a pot bone and everything. Bone in your food is not something people in the west is willing to pay for.

>>8105941

Chinese like bones in their food. They find pleasure in turning a mass of bone and gristle over and over in their mouth, probing and extracting bits of meat and mysterious flavor.

Americans hate that shit.

Diff'rent strokes.

>>8105974
>They find pleasure in turning a mass of bone and gristle over and over in their mouth, probing and extracting bits of meat and mysterious flavor.
I too think the chinese are sub-human.

>>8105974
>go for dinner in Beijing
>enjoy the sound of your neighbor spitting out bones on the table next to his plate for half an hour

>>8105941
>>8106041
It's a darwinian process to choke out dumb people, as the joke goes.

>>8086030
Chinese food can be the poverty grub some 60 year old granny whipped up on her nasty wok and it can be the finest food served to royalty. Don't sweat it too much and simply avoid places where the general tso is 99% bread and the stir-fry sauce overpower the ingredients. I'd give my left nut if all the low-end chinese places around here became middle-end and used some better ingredients.

>>8086030
Watch simply dumpling on YouTube. He knows spots in NY

>>8086040
what?

>>8086030
Ok, so from my knowing.
Authentic Chinee food contains a shitload less MSG because in the mainland of yellow people they are not used to MSG being in their foods.
Even if You visit an authentic restaurant in the US or China. You have to ask for authentic, so they'll hold such shit.
You have to find your local China town for an authentic restaurant. Usually one with a sign like this. Also this is one I been to. very Rare you find them serving Black Duck.

>>8098810
All I can hear are the chimes of the Freedom Bell and the sounds of roads being destroyed in the name of liberalism.

Sounds heavenly. Sounds like Trump 2017

>>8106598
I had a Thai roommate years ago. She was pretty cool. When she moved out, one of my neighbours asked me about where my "chinee wife" went.
>you mean chinese, right?
"You have more than one?!"
Old, low-class white people speak the weirdest fucking dialects of English.

>>8106576
strictly dumpling?

>>8086040
>>8106590
Chink here, not true.

Depending on the area, they'll substitute rice for noodles/mantou/tortilla like wraps, but there will always be some sort of grain or carb to eat with everything else.

In China they treat meat like a condiment.

>>8086056
Kek
Fuck off.

>>8097718
>>8088839
>>8088798
>>8088752
Yeah, Oriental herbal medicine is generally bullshit. Even as a Chink, I don't use it.

Not to say there aren't effective herbal remedies, but its too much trouble to sift through the bullshit. Let scientists do that crap, I'll use the approved cures.

>>8091995
True, a lot of the "American Chinese" stuff is Canton cooking, and pretty foreign to most of the Chinese in the US today.

>>8092339
That's pretty authentic.
Honestly, the three things that americanized chinese food misses the most are the things that chinks specifically have a taste for,

1. Tofu, great deals and large varieties of tofu. You should be eating more soy protein than meat.
2. No sugar. Very, very little chinese cooking involves sweet tastes, and in China most of the time it's considered very childish to eat sweet things past childhood - or drink cold water at the table.
3. Organ meats.

>>8106199
>>8106041
>>8105974
>>8106098
That's not the reason, dumbass. Most Chinese people grew up in relative poverty, and meat is fairly scarce in China. That means, when you get good meat, you don't waste any of it.

Plus, tendons taste good.

>>8106598
This is true. If your city has a large chinatown, find places with either no english sign or a large chinese sign and a small english sign.

>>8107139
>2. No sugar. Very, very little chinese cooking involves sweet tastes, and in China most of the time it's considered very childish to eat sweet things past childhood
Isn't Shanghai cuisine known for its heavy use of sweet sauces though? Does this affect perception of Shanghai in the rest of the country?
>- or drink cold water at the table
lol what

>>8086040
I went to Shanghai and we had fried rice in literally every meal without exception, so that's not true.

>>8086030
I'm vegetarian, but I had to put that on a temporary hold in Shanghai. There is basically meat in 97% of prepared dishes. Also, the only desert we ever got was watermelon. Boo.

But the food in general was pretty good. They had this spicy soup that was the best thing I had there, but fuck if I could recount even half the ingredients. Basically everything is a complex hot-pot of some kind or well-cooked individual components on a dish completely by themselves.

I wouldn't recommend eating in a restaurant with other people if you're a germaphobe though. Everyone just reaches into the community food with the chopsticks they had in their mouth. Fucking disgusting, but no one got sick from it, so whatever I guess.

>>8086046
You probably stopped reading in the fourth grade.

>>8107139
>no sugar
Not necessarily; sugar is used to intensify other aromas, and caramelized sugar is often used in red cooking.

>>8107164
Shanghai is sory of an exception. It has an exceptional desserts industry and makes chinese sweets. But those are rare treats, Chinese meals dont really have a dessert portion. Even in shanghai, what I mostly remember it for is fantastic stews, buns, etc.

>>8107723
Its used the same way something like nutmeg or cream of tartar would be in the west. Used to enhance cooking, but rarely does anything come off as sweet.

And yes, on red cooking on occasion, and I use it too, but again, generally small doses. If your hong Shao rou comes out sweet, you fucked up.

>>8107164
The cold water thing is because of a cultural idea that drinking cold water with hot food stresses your stomach and causes it to contract where you should be filling it up as much as possible. Also, refrigeration wasn't really a thing until like the 80s in china, and drinking cold beverages is seen as a kids or young people thing. Even beer is usually drank warm and rice wine warm or hot.

Usually the drink is just tea, boiled water, or soup.

>>8107269
Honestly, when I first moved here, I was confused why people didn't just reach for the food with the chopsticks. But in china they usually have very robust immune systems. Every time I go back I end up with a week of food poisoning from street food at some point but after a few months I can eat whatever with impunity.

>>8086056
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Century_egg

>>8107745
That's also why hoy sin sauce is not well known outside of Canton/HK. And why they mostly use rock sugar since it's more glossy and supposedly less sweet (see >>8101190)
.

>>8107755
How often do you go back? I've never gotten sick and I was eating seafood on top of street food. Then again I didn't wash my hands before eating when I was little and ate oreos from garbage cans

>>8086030
What kind of food is that on the pic

>>8105663
/thread

>>8107269
>>8086040
Rice is seen as a cheap way to fill up, they often eat it at the end of the meal if they're still hungry. It's not seen as essential like in the Thailand, India etc.