/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>8055998
>current year
>eating bread
did you know that many bread products have a brown-coloring agent mixed in so that they look "healthier"? (not to forget the useless sprinkles of seeds and corn husks to make it look like it wasnt made from white flour and is basically toastbrot-tier health-food, ie not healthy at all)

>>8056005
-∞/10

>>8056005
>many bread products have a brown-coloring agent mixed in so that they look "healthier"?

Some of us don't live in burgerstan and actually have decent baked goods.

>>8055998

That's not a pumpernickel.

THAT is a pumpernickel.

>>8055998
challah is unequivocally the best, bagettes and some german Landbrot are solid runners up tho

>>8056027
this. Americans have no idea how important bread is in other countries

>>8056027
That's actually more rampant in the UK and Ireland than in the US.

>>8056033
>nickel
Is that what you kids are calling it these days? Cool. I can be "down" with the current lingo.

So tell me, lads: would you pump Nadiya Hussein's nickel? I'd pumpernickel. I'd pumpernickel so hard.

>>8056005
>current year
>not baking your own bread

>>8056051

Nah you wouldn't do shit. You're not strong enough for real pumpernickel.

>>8055998
pumpernickel sounds like a gay little nigger dressed in orange

>>8055998
Potato bread is my favorite all-purpose bread, sourdough for stuff like garlic bread and a lot of sandwiches. Pita is also pretty great.

>>8055998

>they flipped the slice over instead of just laying it down like it fell over after being cut off the loaf

>>8056081
With short, almost buzzcut, bleached hair?

bread makes you fat, I haven't eaten it more than 4 days per month in almost a year

In what sense is bread the most basic food we eat? It has both complex flavors and an involved creation process. There is also a wide variety of types of bread.

>>8056098
bread doesn't make you fat, caloric surplus makes you fat

>>8056106
He is probably refering to flat, unleavened bread.
As in, some kind of flour, water, and heat.

>>8056129
true but it's a whole hell of a lot harder to fill up on bread, I can eat 5 plates of pancakes but one steak is about good.

not to mention that almost every product considered "bread" is full of sugar

bread leads to overeating and makes you fat

>>8056140
>I overeat bread and carbs so you'll overeat too

Not everyone's a glutton anon

>>8056140
>pancakes
>bread

pancakes have lots of added sugar and fat. Plain whole wheat bread will not make you fat.

>>8056160
who eats plain whole wheat bread with no butter or spreads?

nobody

>>8056150
eh, tons of people have the same problem

Sourdough, do americans even have decent sourdough available in mainstream stores?

>>8056167
I eat it without butter and eat it with cheese.

>eating gluten

>>8056175
>cheese
exploding with calories and not filling whatsoever

Crisp bread.

>>8056167
>who eats plain whole wheat bread with no butter or spreads?
>nobody

I eat bread with soup, beans, chili, stuff like that. I never put butter, jam, cheese, peanut butter, etc. on bread. These kinds of toppings are what cause obesity.

>>8056106
>See animals eating weath
>Attempt to eat weath
Oh no weath hard, weath hard hurts mouth
>Attempt to roast it
>Still hard as fuck
>Beat the shit out of it with a rock
>It turns into dust
>Attempt to eat dust
Oh no white dust dry
>Go to drink water
>Throw evil white dust into it
>Turns into paste
>Bring paste into camp
>Enjoy paste for dinner
Oh noo evil paste made me shit liquid poo
>Evil weath will never hurt me again
>Throw it into fire wich is the strongest weapon I know as vengeance
>AWeakened by delicious smell
>Evil paste turns into bread
>Recluntantly bite into it
Oh noo evil bread is way too hot inside it burns mouth

Objectively this

>>8056190
why did early humans have lisps?

>>8056206
Because they fucked their mouths by biting hard shit and attempting to eat fire

>>8056187
>I never put butter, jam, cheese, peanut butter, etc. on bread. These kinds of toppings are what cause obesity.
Toppings do not cause obesity, caloric surplus does.

>>8056190
wtf, bread was invented in Egypt meaning the first people to create bread were aliens not primitive humans.

I usually eat my homemade whole wheat sourdough. Sometimes I add other stuff to it, like other grains, or flax. I eat it less than weekly because I don't like bread as much as other stuff.

>>8056177
>Cheese
>Not filling

What shitty cheese product are you eating? Real cheese is filling as fuck.

>>8056137
I still think that is less basic than most vegetables.

>>8056190
I really can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. Seems a lot less basic than

>See plant
>Eat plant

>>8055998
I eat 4 eggs over 2 piece of sourdough almost every day.

I love sourdough.

>>8056250
Any animal can eat fruits and vegetables, only humans make bread.

It is like looking at a mudhut and saying "It would be more basic to sleep on the floor"

But i suppose i get your point

>>8056250
its the most basic complicated thing
basically easier than anything else with 2 ingridients

>>8056285
humans learn by seeing what others do, this is extremely rare. We most likely figured what to eat by watching another animal eat something, killing it, stealing the food and then eating the dead animal too

Lately I've been buying whole wheat bread from Aldi.

Sometimes I'll buy honey wheat when I want to make PB&Js. Its also good for making meatballs.

>>8056293
just more evidence to support the alien theory, then

sourdough forever

>>8056233
Bread confirmed for Goa'uld mechanism of social control

>>8056171
sourdough is incredibly common in the states. Even when I lived in the midwest every grocery store had a sourdough of some kind

>>8055998
>pumpernickel
Guinness in solid form. I love it.

>>8056474
>Even when I lived in the midwest every grocery store had a sourdough of some kind
that kind was rarely a sourdough or by the midwest you mean chicago

If it's white, firm outside and soft inside, ima eat.

My mom always just called them "Portuguese buns" I don't know if that's what they're actually called. The texture is so great, soft but springy and has a bit of crust on the outside with just the right amount of give.

Made this shit the other day. Fuckin staff of life, my man

>>8056779
There's a great deal of difference among sourdoughs, though. Most mass production sourdoughs just have a little vinegar added to make them sour. They don't actually use a proper starter.

Gotta shop around for the good stuff. I hate most "sourdoughs", but like a good one.

>>8057443
this is mine from the other day, new one fermenting right now.

>>8055998
I've been into ciabatta rolls recently. They toast up so fucking good. A little extra virgin olive oil, a dash of balsamic vinegar, some prosciutto, some mozzarella, some tomato, a little fresh basil? Oh mama.

As for standard bread I have a soft spot for potato as well as Pepperidge Farm Rye and Pumpernickel Swirl.

Basic white French. The candy of breads.

every one loves a good anadama and they probably don't even know it.
I don't have a real structured memory of the first or even any time I've had the proper version, but I can taste and smell and feel it like it was yesterday.
almost makes me believe in genetic memory.

>>8057475
Crust on that looks excellent, almost flaky, and the crumb seems pleasantly soft, though obviously it's hard to tell from a picture

>>8056093
Ugh fuck, I saw that too

Rice is a better

>>8057604
Enjoy your arsenic nigguh

I've recently gotten into cooking and I'm thinking of trying to bake my own bread? Any pro tips and maybe a good recipe for my first try?

How necessary is bread as we know it in the diet? It seems like a general indulgence for the most part...regardless of type, it does taste great, but so do cookies...

I mean, could you skip the bread entirely and just eat a sweet potato instead? If we're talking nutrition (harvesting grain for subsistence and all that), regionally speaking--there's probably a vegetable that is far more nutritionally dense than bread.

The other day I was making rigatoni for my old Italian dad. As I was pulling them out, I was thinking--this is basically like eating cardboard in terms of nutrition. Nothing of value to digest, covered with slop that is also minimally nutritious. Sure it might taste good..but that night I ate an avocado with some cooked spinach and grilled sweet potatoes...no bread, no wrap, no massive pasta base...I think I'm better off, is all I'm saying.

>>8055998

Pumpernickel

>The philologist Johann Christoph Adelung states that the word has an origin in the Germanic vernacular where pumpern was a New High German synonym for being flatulent, and Nickel was a form of the name Nicholas, commonly associated with a goblin or devil (e.g. "Old Nick", a familiar name for Satan), or more generally for a malevolent spirit or demon. Hence, pumpernickel is described as the "devil's fart", a definition accepted by the Stopes International Language Database, the publisher Random House, and by some English language dictionaries, including the Merriam-Webster Dictionary.

>The American Heritage Dictionary adds "so named from being hard to digest". A variant of this explanation is also given by the German etymological dictionary "Kluge" that says the word pumpernickel is older than its usage for the particular type of bread, and may have been used as a mocking name for a person of unrefined manners ("farting nick") first. The change of meaning may have been caused by its use as a mocking expression for the (in the eyes of outsiders) unrefined rye bread produced by the Westphalian population.

>>8056233
>>8056458
bread was first invented by BLACK egyptian KANGZ! evil white colonialists came to steal bread from the black pharaohs, and they also erased the true origin of this afrakan meal from history!

>>8057846
Grains are the densest calorie/weight.
There is absolutely nothing (other than fat) that has as many calories in as little weight as wheat, rice, rye, etc.

>>8058017
The only thing blacks invented was efficient cotton picking.

Also, where do you think the term, "white bread" came from?

FFFFFFFFuckin hell, dudes. Why does bread have to be so FUCKIN top? Why do carbs have to be so GOOD.

>>8058245
>Why do carbs have to be so GOOD
Sugar.

>>8055998
Bread is nowhere near the most basic food. What about raw fruit?

>>8057494
This one actually came out pretty soft. Usually it's a little on the denser side (which I'm fine with because it's easier to slice).

>>8055998
Rice is way more basic than bread

>>8058325
You said what everyone was thinking.

>>8055998
humans have been eating meat long before they started harvesting grain. Plus the available evidence suggests we started harvesting grain for beer, not bread

Wonder has always been a personal favorite of mine.

rye bread is best bread, here in the UK I go to a Polish butcher to get Ukrainian rye bread made by a family bakery in Bradford or somewhere.

I like it when my bread can be used as a doorstop.

>only one person suggests vegetables

>someone even suggests meat

oh /ck/

>>8056024

>>8056027
>he believes this

I work in one of the largest bread industries in europe, and I bake the bread myself, and yes it is coloring and seed/seed husks. Delude yourself if you want, but it is shitty, tasteless and unhealthy.

>>8058408
>working for big bread

Really crusty with airy inside. I like my bread borderline difficult to eat. I hate soft bread.

>>8058401
all modern vegetables are the result of an incredible amount of artificial breeding. Wild game or foraged vegetation shit is the most basic proto-food. Obviously foraged vegetation will almost always taste terrible so meat is the obvious choice

>>8058478
>difficult to eat
Why on Earth would that be appealing?

>>8058479
>meat is the obvious choice
If you have salt.

>>8058486
Because he is a dumbass trying to look tough on an anonymous image board

>>8056205
Fucking what?

The best kind of bread, both objectively and subjectively, is homemade.

>>8058486
For the same reason people enjoy eating something like dried beef?

>>8058490
I'm no tough guy but also not pussy enough to ever associate crusty bread with badassery.

>>8058510
>the only options are wonderbread and homemade
everyone laugh at the flyover
>b-but it saves me $2!
and poor too

>>8057472
You really have to look for a small independent bakery, some place that probably labels themselves "artisan" or some shit like that. Storebought bread ain't gonna cut it. You have to get it from someone who just makes bread.

>>8058512
>For the same reason
That isn't a reason, sport.

>>8058518
>Saving money means you're poor

>>8058518
Dude, flyover has massive fucking grocery stores with all sorts of kinds of bread.

>>8058563
I grew up there, you don't need to explain it to me
5,000 kinds of mediocre bread isn't helpful

>>8058553
So? I like what I like. Shoot me.

>>8058557
>wasting time means you're just like Gordon Ramsay

>>8058563
>sorts of kinds
uh...

>>8058570
They have literally the exact same kinds of bread as everywhere else in America

>>8058586
Nope

>>8057443
>>8057475
>>8057494
fresh from the oven, love me a good sourdough bread

>>8058601

>>8058605
it's a bit hole-ier than I would like, but still looks good!

still waiting on my poolish (and I'm cooking other things atm so I can't work it right now anyway)

>>8058637
i really like it holey, your poolish looks a tad brownish, what flowers you using?

>>8058637
i really like it holey, your poolish looks a tad brownish, what flowers you using?

>>8055998

Does hotdog bread count?

>>8055998
Pumpernickel a shit

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I am now in charge of a nutrition class and I have to do breadmaking.
The problem is, I only have 1 hour a day to do it.
If kids mix dough and let it rise one day, and bake it the next, would it be okay?
Should they leave it to rise on the counter or in the fridge if the dough has to sit for 23 hours?

>>8058655
it's just King Arthur AP. My lighting is also not great.

>>8058675

This recipe is legit good. It made this loaf.

http://cooking.nytimes.com/recipes/11376-no-knead-bread

>>8058688
>>8058675
That's good to know, but they have to cook a variety of breads and I was wondering in general how to manage long rise times.

>>8058675
It should be fine, just find a long ferment recipe that seems like it'll work. Also test it before hand and see if it works over that period of time, and if the yeast starve try adding less until it works.

>>8055998
that shit does not even look like rye bread

>>8058902
rye bread can look like a bunch of different stuff

>>8058655
>flowers

>>8055998
Gruel is more a blanket staple of civilization than bread. You ever hear of rice or cassava bread?

Cuban

>hey guys klook at all these unhealthy carbs

>>8055998
no, boiled grains are

>>8056033
That's called Frysian rye bread
t. Dutch

awwww shuckie duckie

>>8059096

>all food must be healthy and carb free

I scoff right back at you

>>8057782
500 g of bread flour
300 ml of tepid water
a sachet of yeast
5ml of sunflower or other vegetable oil
a teaspoon of sugar or honey

Mix all of this shit together, and knead for a few minutes.
Leave it for 10 minutes.
Knead it again, and set it in shape.
Lave it for about an hour at least, or until it just about doubles in size.
Put in a an oven at about 230C for about a half hour or so.

>>8059096
>Carbs are unhealthy

>>8058902
>>8058998
>arguing about the nigger of breads.

>>8055998

>>8058408
>largest bread industries

no shit sherloc, of course it's all fake
only buy from trusted, local providers

>>8057443
mmmmmmm

>>8064858
>packaged bread
trash

>>8063224

Learn how adjectives work you little faggot

>>8055998
while you TEENYBOPPERS are eating your MEME FOOD, i'll be eating the highly superior TORTILLA.

I can make chips :^). What can bread do?

>>8065954
Make toast.

>coloring your bread to make it look darker

Ishygddt

>>8056098
great blog

>>8065954
Sop up liquid.

>>8056181
I'm the only person I know who eats this stuff. Tastes like cardboard but I love it

I made this challah bread today from the New Artisan Bread in 5 Minutes A Day book. Pretty good.

Reminder quick breads aren't true breads.

>>8066346
holla

>>8058601
M8 please provide some sort of instructions or recipe.
I can't into bread I've tried making it three times and when it was in the oven it didn't "grow" and the inside becomes brownish and a little wet

this shit is the bomb - unfortunately it's only on sale in upmarket places like booths/waitrose and is expensive but since eating wheat in decent amount (a single slice) gives me some digestive issues this is the best alternative i've found.

>>8056005
The taste and texture is different between wheat and rye.

>>8057443
>raw dough

>>8056181
aww yiss. love me some delikatess with bregott

This is the most epic bread ever.