/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Shoyu ramen.

Gook food is awful, go eat innocent doges elsewhere

>>7948041
Reddit called and they want you back.

I've had a hard time finding matcha powder in stores in my country. I think I'll have to order it, but it seems expensive.

I'm looking forward to trying matcha recipes though. It might be over-hyped, but the colour looks amazing and I love matcha flavour.

>>7948038
Japanese food is really bland.
Massive anticlimax.

>>7948038
Fuck off weebs

We normie country now

>>7948112
Do you have any Korean supermarkets? For some reason, they have a lot of Japanese stuff.

>>7948174
since you specifically requested it, I'll post it for you.

>>7950437
>not knowing how to inspect element

>>7948038
I was trained how to make sushi at work today. Shit is fucking glorious.

>>7948171
what we do that seems bland for you white fags are called protecting the flavor of the ingredients.
since our ingredients are good quality, why mask it with your shitty herbs n spices that makes every food taste practically the same?
tasteless euro or amerifags who can only guzzle on fat and cant enjoy the actual flavor of the ingredients

>>7951603
>why mask it with your shitty herbs n spices that makes every food taste practically the same?

That makes sense if you're talking about ingedients that actually are good quality. But the problem is that the lack of seasonong extends to ingredients that aren't so good.

For example: It doesn't matter if I buy sushi from Lawson's or from Jiro--both will lack seasoning. That's perfectly fine for Jiro's sushi. He has top-tier fish that doesn't need it. The cheap stuff from Lawsons? No, that needs seasoning.

I have been to Japan several times on business. The food at high end restaurants is fantastic, and "maintaining the flavor of the ingredients" makes perfect sense there. But it seems that the mantra of a high-end chef gets repeated even when lower quality ingredients are used, and that just doesn't make any sense.

Ah, my specialist subject.

My personal preference is Nikutama Bukkake Udon. It is a delicious dish which whets my appetite everytime I think about it.

Yours,

Anon in Japan.

>>7948112
Isetan maybe

>>7951629
alright, im from japan. For us, the seasoning is not always necessary, like my granma used to give me just a cucumber with no salt or anything on, tasted amazing.
some people assume that jap food is complicated with different spices n shit like chinese food, but its really not. Pretty much the only thing we have is like, salt, soy sauce, miso and general "dashi" which is a broth of what foreigners call it "umami" (total bulllshit).
anyways, the point is, that weather how good or bad the quality of the ingredients are, we dont really need a special seasoning as long as the ingredients itself taste good.

>>7951682
CHING CHONG CHING CHONG NYAAA NYAAAAAAAA

>>7951682
You have many more seasonings than what you listed. Mirin. Sake. Shichimi. Sansho. Konbu can be used for curing fish to impart additional flavor. Japanese pickles are fucking amazing (I think those are a lacto-ferment done in rice bran?).

>we dont really need a special seasoning as long as the ingredients itself taste good.

I agree. But the problem is that your ingredients don't always taste good on their own.

I had the same experience as you described with a cucumber. The ones my grandma (from Denmark) grew in her greenhouse were fantastic. But the ones from the supermarket? Those are not so good. Those need seasoning.

>You have many more seasonings than what you listed. Mirin. Sake. Shichimi. Sansho. Konbu can be used for curing fish to impart additional flavor. Japanese pickles are fucking amazing

>>7951717

>>7951721

So I have a interesting challenge. My dad is picky as fuck and only eats cooked fish, and says he wants to try sushi "but only if you make it anon" since he likes my cooking. I'm trying to figure out what types of cooked fish and with what vegetables I could use to make a more americanized roll. My initial thought was Braised swordfish, green onion, and tobiko sauce with white rice, and topped with spiced panko. Thoughts or ideas for picky parents who don't do raw fish?

>>7951717
>>7951721
>>7951726
Wew

>>7951779

Sure. Many kinds of sushi are cooked. Shrimp is typically cooked, but might be a bit bland for his tastes. Unagi (eel) would be a great choice since that's grilled and the sauce is not that far off from "BBQ".

the roll you proposed doesn't sound bad, though I'm not sure what "tobiko sauce" is. I know Tobiko to be the roe (eggs) of flying fish--it's not a sauce. And while it's good, fish eggs might be a bit offputting to a picky eater?

There are also rolls which use cooked food--the aforementioned unagi, shrimp tempura, and also soft-shell crab (fried). A lot of American sushi places have rolls using those ingredients, you might get some inspiration there.

I've always found Japanese food to be bland. Obviously like most people I've never been to Japan to sample the real stuff but I doubt it can be any better than Westernized stuff, we have better access to spices and seasonings.

>>7951850
>t it can be any better than Westernized stuff, we have better access to spices and seasonings.

The problem is that we DON'T have better access to the rice and the fish. Quite the opposite really. (unless you're talking about one of the few truly high-end sushi places in the US).

>>7951726
Huh?

what the fuck does japanese people eat on their daily life?

gourmetized sushi and instant ramen?

>>7951867
Speak for yourself in your land locked flyover.
Anyhow post Fukashima most Japs won't touch seafood.
Beef and Pork is the new seafood.

wrong board m8, you want /ck/

>>7951873
pic related in my experience.

>>7951867
>we DON'T have better access to the rice
We import rice from China and South East Asia exactly like the Japanese do.
There is literally no difference between the rice there and in the West.
If you think Japan is some mystical land of cute girls and rice fields you need to stop watching anime and get into the real world.

>>7951883

I live on the coast, bro.

The quality and variety of our seafood is a drop in the bucket compared to Japan. And this is especially true of the typical American sushi restaurant. It's usually the same cookie cutter menu. And frankly, I can't blame them. There's no point in them going to great lengths to stock exotic fish that nobody will order because the customers are all face-cramming giant rolls will all kinds of sugary sauces on them so that you can't even taste what the fish in the rolls actually is.

>>7951899
Agrred.
Japan is fast becoming a landscape of corporate industrialism.
Western fast food is everywhere and the youth are turning their backs on traditional way to adopt a western lifestyle.
Japan will be unrecognizable in ten years time.

>>7951903
But that's America.
I live on the Mediterranean coast and we have the best seafood in the world.
Far superior to Japan and a hell of a lot less polluted.

Ate this in Tokyo

>>7951928
>Raw fish.
Nippon really has grorious food culture.

>>7951933
Better than the raw fish we eat back in Sweden.

Sour men

>>7951940
That's what I come to /ck/ for

>>7948038
I like pocky.
Even though it's exactly the same as Mikado, Pocky is better.

>>7951899
>There is literally no difference between the rice there and in the West.

I disagree. I've been trying hard to find a good variety of Japanese rice here in the US. I have yet to be able to find it. We get calrose, nishiki, and so on. And those aren't bad. But we don't have pic related. (And yes, I know that's vietnam and not Japan, but it was the first image I could find to get the point across).

You see it on this board all the time: people ask "how do you cook your rice" or "how should I cook my rice" without even mentioning what kind of rice they are cooking.

>>7951919
This is very true. And sad at the same time. We've done the same thing here in the US and most of us aren't even aware of what we've lost.

The big epiphany for me was watching "Mind of a Chef". There was an episode discussing the old style of rice that used to be grown in the US south back in the days before industrialized production. I got curious so I ordered a small amount--Carolina Gold, from Anson Mills. I know this sounds dumb, but the moment I opened the bag it was a fucking epiphany. Here I was, staring into a bag of uncooked rice. And yet the smell alone was so pleasant it made all the other rice I've eaten before seem like nothing. I cooked it (just tossed it in the rice cooker), and it was absolutely amazing even with no seasong, no salt, no sauce, no nothing. That's a fucking eye-opener as to what industrialized production has done to our food supply. Who would think that rice existed that was so tasty you can eat it on its own with nothing added? It sounds like utter bullshit. But there it was. That's what has motivated me to look for similar old-school asian rices. I figure that if the Americans could pull off some really good rice then surely the Asians would have done even better. Not easy to find here.

>>7951954

Forgot my pic like a tard

>>7951823
Neat, thanks. I meant to say tetiyaki, not tobiko kek. Unfortunately they are allergic to shellfish. I have had eel with egg, sauce and rice before at this fantastic little hole-in-the-wall Japanese place near my house and loved it. I guess it's time to head to the nearest H-mart and get some eel. Also I was thinking of doing a fried Tilapia roll with pico and mango, or something else tropical like that since they both like mexican food.

>>7951711
>Let me tell you about your culture

>>7950437
Mods haven't done custom bans for many years, if anyone needs to go to r*ddit it's you

>Go to America
>Japanese food is just sushi, teriyaki/sesame chicken and bland ramen
>Go to Japan
>amazing curry, delicious and sinful ramen, fucking badass katsu cutlets, heavenly donburi bowls or whatever the fuck

Call me a weeb, but the actual food that young Japanese people eat is baller as fuck and is also unhealthy as shit. Fuck memes like "durr Jap food is bland"

>>7951682
Umami is an adjective to describe a unique flavor, the others are sweet, spicy, and zesty
Umami is a term that you japs coined because you are the ones who discovered it, its closest translation in English would be "savory"

Its not bullshit

I quite like japanese curry and most forms of udon. It's a bitch to cook thogh because of ingredients such as dashi powder.
8/10 for flavour 10/10 for hassle to cook and make

>>7952264
>zesty
Retard.

>>7951682

Also you put that fucking sea weed on EVERYTHING!

>>7952264
we definitely knew about savoury as a flavour before Kikunae Ikeda was even born, let alone discovered the chemical basis for it

>go to a facy Japanese restaurant with family
>dad who eats like your average 1950's white collar american businessman, asks me "anon, what's the closest thing I can get here to a steak"
>point to the steak on the menu half distracted as I munch on sashimi
>food comes
>premium cut of kobe beef served on an houba leaf over a hotpot that's cooking it from the bottom, paired with teriyaki demiglace and mushrooms
>mad jelly, better order that next time
>dad looks fucking piss ed
>calls the waiter over
>"WHY IS IT RAW?"
>waiter looks scared as fuck, says in broken english "oh, so solly, beef ordered raw, it cook over flame on plate, look..."
>try to help him out. Explain to dad he has to wait a couple minutes and that it will taste amazing
>"CAN I GET SOMEONE HERE WHO SPEAKS ACTUAL ENGLISH"
>waiter sinks out, some other more fluent guy comes over
>dad forces them to take it back to the kitchen and sear the shit out of it "well done"
>come back with a perfectly good piece of premium kobe beef just fucking destroyed, turned into a leather boot
>they actualy did it. The absolute madjaps
>dad complains that it tastes like shit
>gee, no fucking wonder
>enjoy my eel, egg, and rice box

Japanese food with dad, never again.

>>7952826

Had a vaguely similar experience once.

>on vacation in Hawaii with bf and his grandparents
>his grandma is young for a grandma and very hip, her and I find this Asian fusion noodle place that we want to try
>his grandpa seems cool with it at the time, I don't know him all that well to know how restrictive his tastes are
>you go and order a handful of plates, everything served family style
>grandpa is starting to seem really out of his element with the unconventional setup
>try to go with some more simplistic stuff, but also get things that we want
>waiter is a pretentious cock who not-so-subtly informs us that some of the stuff we ordered (geared toward grandpa) is 'really intended for the keiki (kids)' and embarrasses us out of getting simpler things
>end up getting pad thai, ahi poke bowl, Vietnamese crepe, and pork belly buns
>grandpa was okay with the pad thai, refused to try the poke or crepe and was horrified that my bf and I ate that sort of thing
>his comment as we left the restaurant, "I did kind of like that bacon biscuit."

>>7952826
>>7952894
*tips*

Glad to see other connoisseurs here.

>>7951850
But that's incorrect