/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I don't eat either of them, and neither should you

>wee wee wee dindu nuffin

>>7790514

No idea, don't give a shit about dogs.

Probably more cost effective to eat pigs as they have more meat at a guess.

>>7790514
Dogs have co-evolved with humans and you've ever had a dog as a pet you would understand how close they can become. Pigs and some other animals are also smart and social but pigs make good meat I guess.

>>7790514
Pigs i eat arent kept in inhumane conditions.

Or so the 'organic' moniker has led me to belive.

>>7790514
Go ahead, eat to your precious little tastebuds content. But that doesn't mean I'll ever consider you equal to me. "Big deal" you might think, but I am going to fuck you over every way I can. Everybody else gets preferential treatment. You're shot? Too bad, you're waiting for the three moms with the kids with sniffles.

>>7790514
>there are people that claim to be moral and still eat animal products

Predators are garbage meat honestly.

>>7790514
I'd try dog if it was raised to be food. China often didn't raise them for food though and just finds stays to eat.

I'd also assume farming dogs would be similar to farming modern animals where we would eat them at around a year or so of growth, and mostly only one or two breeds would be farmed.

>>7790514
Why is it okay to make shitty, unoriginal bait threads?

>>7790609
>someone disagrees with me
must be bait!

>>7790563
Cultural revolution tends to starve a lot of people. Brits ate cats and rats during wwii

>>7790514
I fucking hate chinks and gooks.

>>7790672
>the cultural revolution caused famine

>>7790514
>Why is it okay to eat pigs but not dogs?

Dog doesn't taste good. People eat Dogs out of desperation, if everyone had the money, they'd eat a juicy fuckin steak every day.

>>7790514
Dogs aren't are rather inefficient to raise (they grow slowly and need to eat meat) and they don't taste particularly good.

Compare that to pigs which gain weight quickly on stuff like kitchen scraps and taste fucking amazing.

>>7790514

Because 10,000 years ago humans domesticated wolves to make for themselves companion animals that assisted in hunting, traveling, and herding. We have an evolutionary disposition to not consume dogs.

Pigs, on the other hand, have been hunted and slaughtered for just as long. We seek them out for meat, we breed them to be fat and tasty. Our tongues have developed a taste for their flesh and fat. We have an evolutionary disposition to consume pig.

Pigs taste better than dogs
Pigs genetically have more meat per pound than dogs
Pigs don't have strong carnivore characteristics while dogs do
Dogs are able to be trained to protect, pigs physically can't be

Basically comes down to taste and contribution to our race.

>>7790610
Filtered.

>>7790525
>Pigs i eat arent kept in inhumane conditions.
>Or so the 'organic' moniker has led me to belive.

this. i know for a fact that the farm i buy from lets their pigs sleep on an actual bed, and they have their own pool to swim in, and a tv running old 50s movies 24 hours a day. they have a better live than most of you plebs.

I like dogs more.

>>7790514
sleep tite, puppers!

>>7790514
it's okay to eat both.

people just have too much feels for dogs and can't stand other people doing things they wouldn't do.

I was watching one of those shows where people recount near death experiences.
there was this one guy who was lost in the woods and he happened along a friendly dog who may have been lost in the woods with him too.
For many days the two wandered together, the dog following him everywhere he went.

what an amazing way to find a companion you could have for life, you know?

well one day the guys hunger got the better of him so he beat the dog to death with a piece of wood and ate it.
then he threw it up because can you imagine what raw dog meat tastes like?

he was rescued the next day

Pigs can be as friendly as dogs, and are even comparable in terms of loyalty and overall satisfaction in a pet. They can be trained to do various tasks and come with unique, individual personalities. But pigs never stop eating. Ever. To eat like a pig is not just a saying. Dogs are cheaper to care for so in that sense more useful and easier to keep as a pet. Plus pigs taste better and there is more fatty meat on them. It is not necessarily better to eat pigs per say but it is more logical. Especially considering if we forced fed and farmed dogs like we did pigs we'd all be eating shit-tier gamey meat and wasting money making dog feed when pigs literally eat anything.

>>7790514
Morals are relative
If you're hungry enough it's okay to eat anything

>>7791263
None of those are actually reasons for why eating dog is wrong.

>>7790514
i hear they taste like dog tho.

but honestly what taste?

>>7790524
Are you implying other farm animals didn't co-evolve with humans?

>>7790559
That's completely bullshit. Many fishes we eat are predators.

>>7792194
They are if you're naive enough to be 100% libertarian.

>>7792820
...No, I didn't? There are plenty of smart animals that get along with humans. But pigs make better meat.

>>7791227
Thats not how evolution works, you idiot. Its not a disposition, it's cultural. As soon as you decide to not think that way, there's nothing that stops you.

The only thing evolution applied in that case it's the selective process humans made for having dogs as pets and pigs as food, which nowadays make them extremely cute and extremely delicious respectively.

>>7790514
It's NOT ok to eat swine though anon.

>>7790514
because we regard dogs, in most cultures, as trainable and friendly animals. i dont know why we dont eat cat tho, we got too many of them anyway

If it tastes good eat it

>>7793026
cat tastes like piss, m8

>>7792823
except fishes ?

>>7790514
because dogs were raised and bred to be human companions... it's only sub-human e-sport infatuated races who would eat such a revered animal...

Dogs and humans have developed a symbiotic relationship over 10,000 years.

Pigs, not so much

Man's best friend

You wouldn't eat your friend

>>7791227
>evolutionary

>>7793068
The Chinese word for "family" is derived from an ancient 10,000 ideogram of a pig inside a house

Checkmate carnists

Guy goes into a bar and sullenly orders a beer and a double shot of whiskey. The bartender pours his order and asks "Why so down Bill?" Bill drains his first round, signals for a refill and says, "I caught my wife in bed today screwing my best friend." The bartender asks "Well, did you shoot him?" "Couldn't do that," says Bill. "Why not?" asks the bartender. And Bill replies, "I've had that dog for 10 years."

>>7793086
>ancient 10,000 ideogram

His Mother thinks he's cool.

>>7790514
Because arbitrary distinction by white people. Same reason alcohol is ok but marijuana isn't

Dogs aren't halaal

in certain parts of the world we did, and still do.

Ultimately, in the Western World - Europe, the Middle East, etc, the pig and the dog were both endemic. Both were sociable animals that could be adopted and trained by humans, both had minimal value as beasts of burden. Dogs however, in addition to being leaner and less flavourful than pigs, were more useful than hunting. Essentially, the Dog was more useful as a friend, and the pig more useful as a meal.

Elsewhere, such as the Americas and SEA, where dogs were present but pigs were not (originally), Dogs were in fact used as a food source (and still are in some rural areas)

However dog farming is very inefficient, so as a food product it would remain niche, as a ceremonial or lesser food source.

The inefficiency of dogs as food, combined with the efficiency of Pigs as food, combined with Western Culture which developed around this paradigm, resulted in an environment where the Dog was elevated as a companion and the Pig consigned to food.

>>7793109
>However dog farming

shouldn't it be "dog ranching"?

>>7793124
no, because Dogs in Indonesia and other countries are farmed in small area's like chickens or pigs.

>>7793125
Farmed for pet sale, not consumption. Indonesians are primarily Muslim and dogs are considered dirty animals

>>7793138
I just chose a random country, I have no idea who eats dogs, just that it's some shithole in asia.

Mexicans used to for religious holidays before the Spanish murdered the fuck out of them

>>7790515
Allahu akbar

>>7790538
>think it's more moral to wreck the ground with monocultures

vegfags, everyone

>>7793791
Most monoculture is animal feed though

>>7791227
Who are you, who are so wise in the ways of science?

>>7791263
> Pigs taste better than dogs
According to who? Pigs a bred to be tasty, very few people have eaten a dog that was bread to be eaten.
>Pigs genetically have more meat per pound than dogs
You can fatten any animal up anon. And while pigs have been bred over centuries to produce more meat over a shorter timespan, the same could very easiuly be done to dogs.
> Pigs don't have strong carnivore characteristics while dogs do
Pigs are omnivores so if given the option would happily eat meat.
> Dogs are able to be trained to protect, pigs physically can't be
Pigs have shown themselves of capable of intelligence and can be trained.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5049210/Pig-hailed-as-a-real-life-Babe.html
And while the modern pig would fail as a guard animal, the boar from which it is descended could have been bred into being more vicious and deadly.

>>7793832
exactly, it's not that pigs cannot be trained to do what a dog can do. it's just that we've selectively bred pigs for meat, not for companionship, aesthetics, temperament, or intelligence.

I would have no problem with eating dog. I just wouldn't eat MY dog.

>>7790515
/thread

>>7793832
>According to who? Pigs a bred to be tasty, very few people have eaten a dog that was bread to be eaten.

According to people familar with mammal biology. While I'm sure it could be possible to improve the taste of dog if ones were specially bred for that purpose, there are a lot problems to overcome. Dogs, like most predators, have scent glands, whose presence taints the flavor of the meat.

>Pigs are omnivores so if given the option would happily eat meat.
Missing the point. Carnivores don't taste good. We want them eating vegetables, not meat, as that results in better tasting flesh. Also, feeding animals meat would be crazy expensive compared to the alternative. A carnivorous diet is a disadvantage; pigs will eat anything.

What a shitty thread.

Go eat a lettuce and stfu.

I used to kill cats as a kid.

I would devour a dog in a heartbeat, it's not like I knew it before digesting it anyway.

>>7790538
A person who has lost a hand remembers how to clap, even if they no longer do. You can have moral standing and fail its entire possibility for a portion of its maintenance.

Your dismissal is childish.

>>7793793
Your doing right finding excuses to spread awareness.

my question is which dog breed is the tastiest to eat?

Maybe if the dog was raised and slaughtered as humanely as possible, I'd eat it, but that doesn't seem to happen anywhere in the world. I'm also guessing pig tastes better and they produce more meat. Also, I own a dog and value the companionship he provides, and I value the life of a dog over that of a pig. I consider my pupper a family member so I'm speaking from an obviously biased position here.

That image is sad

>>7790514
because dogs taste terrible apparently.

>>7794360

I'd imagine they taste like most game meat; low fat and fairly tough.

>>7794366
>not treating your food dog like a calf for veal
>>7793847
>intelligence
We don't breed dogs for that either. Dogs that are actually intelligent, instead of dog "intelligent" tend to be shit for training purposes because they get fucking bored too damn easily, they tend to care more about appeasing instead of getting results done, they get fucking bored too damn easily, dogs with higher intelligence tend to be more cat like in their attitude towards humans (euthanize that shit as soon as possible), they get fucking bored too damn easily.

you guys are fucking disgusting.

how many of you would actually eat a dog if it was served right in front of you?

>>7790514
There's more meat on pigs than dogs, and dogs do a better job of providing companionship and work than pigs do.

>>7794742
I'd eat YOU if I was hungry enough, anon.

Quit being such a squeamish bitch.

>>7794742

In my current condition, I'd try it once as a novelty.

If I was a starving poor in China with nothing else? Everyday, without even a second thought.

>>7793069
You know what else you wouldn't do to our friends? You wouldn't breed them so they obtain a large size while cutting their lifespan by a half to two/thirds of what they would have had without your tampering. You wouldn't inbreed them with immediate family and starve them in order to obtain dogs that can better fit into purses, assuring them both high probability of genetic disorders and cutting their lifespan to 5 years, much of it spent diseased and starving. You wouldn't mass produce them in friend mills where their prospects are either being future rape stock, being malnourished until you obtain your quota for the next shipment to a chain friend store, or dying within a few days after which you recycle them to increase the protein content of the rest of the mill's feed. You wouldn't have them fight other people's friends to the death. You wouldn't dye them bizarre colors when they have no means of giving consent. You wouldn't feed them shitty "enriched", meat inspired flavored Corn Pops and two cups of weeks old kitchen grease of which you couldn't be bothered to properly dispose.

>>7794843
The only thing stopping me is my lack of friends.

>>7794810
>dog
>providing
>work
When's the last time you had dog till your farm? When's the last time you had a dog pull a 40+ pound cart a few miles per day? When's the last time you used your dog's shit for fertilizer or fuel.

>>7794856
sheep dogs are a thing, cunt. so are hunting dogs and bloodhounds.

pigs are useless.

>>7790514
dogs are alot more emotive than pigs

as least to me anyway

>>7794880
Truffles are a thing, poorfag.

>>7790514
Because times are good and there are no food shortages?

>>7794885
How many of you have the balls to kill an animal for food? I don't think I could go through with it, even if it was a fish.

>>7794880
>sheep dogs are a thing
Pig can do that too, I saw a documentary on it.

>>7790514
because the law is the will of the people and completely reliant on what people value and how highly. If habits changed and people would stop keeping pets, dogs would be on the menu. In germany horsemeat can still be bought easily, in vietnam its np eating dog since theres no real emotional bond

While he is wrong about pork, Jules makes a good point about Dogs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61g2-EVJ-mo

I have a muscly ass pit bull who fucks up my house and I think about eating him every day

>>7794900
>Had to slaughter a goat
>Was given a hammer to knock it down
>Was told to smack it in the forehead
>Smack it in the head hard and accurate
>It drops to one knee
>Gets back up and baaahs
>Hit it again
>It gets back up
>Again
>Gets up again
>Guys laughing
>Turns out goats have reinforced skulls
>Have to bleed it out

Yeah, if you're scared to kill an animal you shouldn't eat them. I can agree with that but really don't care too much. I keep chickens and it's very easy to cut their heads off.

fact. Every cat owner is either autistic or beta

>>7790514
Because pigs aren't domesticated, It's not complicated Mcahmud

>>7795204
You seem to not actually know the definition of domestication.

>>7790538
kill yourself veganfag

>>7793086
That's probably because chinese people love eating pig. Your family are the people you eat good meat with.

>>7790514
I eat pray, not predators, because the meat is significantly different and predator meat gives far less energy.

Ever wonder what happens to the cats and dogs we don't want but are too afraid to eat? They go to a rendering plant to be turned into animal feed and beauty products. Like it or not, you or the food you eat is probably consuming cats and dogs in some way or form.

>>7794822
Chinese people tend to eat dogs during the winter. People with pets (dogs and cats) left outside frequently get them stolen for food around that time of year, seriously. It's part of the whole hot/cold chinese traditional medicine thing, and dog meat being considered a "warm" food.

>>7795280

>cats and dogs mixed together

ffs China at least organize them into the proper bins.

>>7795213
You're correct, that was incorrect terminology

Pigs aren't generally kept as pets within our culture, is that better?

>>7795359
This is more nitpicking by someone else, but have you seen how many people get teacup and potbelly pigs as pets nowadays? On top of that, I know of a few people who lived on farms and had a pig or cow that they were very friendly with, who they eventually ate.

>>7795352

That's from an American rendering plant. It all gets cooked down at the end so it doesn't matter.

Here's the reason you shouldn't eat dogs: humanity did not domesticate them to eat.

The development of the domestic dog was a relationship of symbiosis. We helped each other hunt. The relationship between man and dog is ancient, far older than any other domesticated animal. Whereas other early domesticated animals emerged around 10,000 years ago, during the agricultural revolution, dogs were domesticated thiry to forty thousand years ago. Dogs are quite literally man's best friend.

To me, eating dogs betrays a primordial inter-species relationship that's lasted forty thousand years.

>>7790514
pig is a magical animal that tastes like glory, dogs and cats taste like shit. also I've eaten lots of roadkill so I know what most animals taste like.

>>7795367
But we aren't eating teacup and potbelly pigs.

And I doubt those people let their pig or cow into their house and slept beside them. You can't do much more with a pig or cow than pet them, but that doesn't make them a pet.

People can get attached to just about anything if they let themselves, it's just a matter of intent. Those people intended to eat those animals, they just allowed themselves to be friendly in the meantime.

>>7795510
>eaten lots of roadkill

Don't be like that anon from /k/ who gave himself leprosy from eating armadillo.

>>7795547
they don't live near to were I live, also I've heard too many bad things about them

>>7790803
Why are you all saying things that aren't this?

Unless dog is god's gift to mankind's taste buds, it stupid to raise such an expensive animal for food. It's three layers of inefficient-- grain to meat to dog then to human consumption?

>whatistrophiclevels

>>7795510
Rabbit is pretty good though

>>7795620
that shit has almost no meat, is just not worth it.

>>7795369
Americans forever unable to sort their recycling properly. Seriously how fucking hard is it to understand that glass and plastic don't go into one bin?

>>7794084

well no fucking shit cap. obvious

>>7794856
Dogs helped us find explosives, hidden brown people, and caught runners for us in A-stan and Iraq. Those furry little niggers saved lives.

How's about them apples, you big faggot...

>>7794931

That's why you either shoot them in the head with a .22, or cut their jugular you dum urbanite.

>>7790514
It's neither okay or not okay, it simply is.

If you can and do eat pork you've eaten a pig, if you can and do eat dogmeat you've eaten a dog. That's all there is to it.

>kek Koreans eating "The Yellow One"
They have a spicy dog stew that looks delicious, I'd love to try it.

>>7790520
The US has some really weird, bordering on crazy pet obsessions; am I the only one that has noticed this?

One of my coworkers posted a video of her literally crying because she found out there was a puppy mill near her house. wtf?

>>7793109
Pork is the most popular meat in China.
Beef is the most popular meat in America

>>7795961
>One of my coworkers posted a video of her literally crying because she found out there was a puppy mill near her house. wtf?

That doesn't mean shit.

There's a vid around showing some dumb bitch crying and claiming she was having a panic attack after watching game of thrones when a fake character got fake raped.

Bitches cry over anything....

>>7795939
You also went around shooting dogs too.
So, bullet magnet is also a job?

>>7795974
Do you believe "animal cruelty" should be a crime?

>>7790514

pigs are food, that's why.

It's not okay to eat any animal we do it because of inertia and a need to establish ourselves as the planet's dominant species

Also I'm gay

>>7795961
http://www.nbcnews.com/business/consumer/americans-will-spend-more-60-billion-their-pets-year-n390181

americans are retarded

there's literally no reason to own a dog. it's a drain on finances.
>buying an animal that's only good for eating and shitting
>have to take it out 3 times a day for walks and pick up its shit or else it'll relieve itself all over your house
>have to give the fucking thing constant attention
>can't concentrate because it spends its entire time looking at you with expectant eyes
i fucking hate my mom for buying a dog.

>>7796027
>concept of dominance
>Also I'm gay
Obviously.

>>7796029
>bringing filthy animals into your home
What's wrong with them? I think it's hilarious how if you look on dating site there are all these fat or fugly women in their 30s who've been single for years and are trying to replace their desire to bond with a mate with a dumb animal that spends time with you simply because you feed it.
>must love dogs because i luv muh dog and he luvs me, just look at his eyes!
>dog has blank stare
Desperate retards.

>>7796029
>>7796043
Have you ever even owned a dog? Sure people get crazy about their pets and treat them like human babies, but dogs provide companionship for humans. It's not just the dog that benefits from your attention, you benefit from their attention. Treat a dog right and they will give you an unconditional, family-like bond.

>i fucking hate my mom for buying a dog
Does your spend more money on the dog than your Dorito habit?

>>7796029
You dropped this

>>7794900
>be me, caregiver, in home care
>come to client's house for work one morning
>night caregiver tells me they set up rat traps outside the other day and one was caught
>it didn't die
>this bitch let it flail around stuck in the trap for at least an hour
>grab a shovel
>never killed anything as big as a rat before
>know I have to put it out of its misery
>god fucking damn it
>I smash its head, it keeps flailing
>I smash it again
>it won't go limp and die
>about 45 seconds of me smashing his head in until it finally dies
>brains everywhere
>throw it in a bag, put it in the trash
>clean off the shovel
>tell my coworker never to make me fucking do that again
>call my girlfriend and my dad because I'm having a fucking crisis

That was awful and it fucked up my whole week. So no, if I can barely mercy kill a rat, I don't have the balls to go hunting or to slaughter a pig or goat. I don't want to have to hurt any animal again.

>>7795939

>hoo rah murrica fuck yea xD

summarily end your existence

>>7796071
that's just it. they give you a family bond. for yourself.

telling everyone else in the world they can't eat dog because you have a personal bond with a dog is completely retarded.

that's like me saying i have a pet fish, everybody shouldn't eat fish because it makes muh feels bad.

It's not. Go vegan

>>7796029
>i fucking hate my mom for buying a dog.

>>7790525
Who gives a shit? A death camp is a death camp. Only way around it is going veg.

>>7796082
>had a shovel
>didn't use the edge to decapitate it
I understand this is useless to advise you on now, but that's how to do it

>>7793125
>>7793138
Christian minorities in Indonesia eat dogs, but they aren't usually farmed for the purpose. *normal' dogs are used for food, and pet dogs are commonly kidnapped to be used for food. If a family had a puppy litter the pups can be raised and sold to be used as food without question but original pet dogs are not usually sold like this unless the family needs money. Dog meat is very expensive so it profits the family to keep dogs and sell them for meat when in need of money.

>>7790516
I'm poor and mostly eat what the church gives me which in most cases is donated expired pork that Grocery stores donate once it's been expired for over a month.
Don't make me feel guilty for eating the only thing I have in the frig when I get hungry.

>>7796029

I hope it tears your throat out

Pigs have a much higher dressing percentage.

Also bacon

>>7790538

>>7796082

>call my girlfriend and my dad because I'm having a fucking crisis

Please grow a pair. Quickly.

>>7790514
well dog meat is shit and humans usually dont eat predators.
Whats the point of raising them for consumption in the first place when other shit is cheaper and tastier? we dont need to eat every god damn thing that walks the earth

>>7795983
i belive animal cruelty is a logical imposibility

>>7794900
it depends, if i have to actually wresel the thing and kill it wioth a knife no way in hell im putting myself through that
give me a gun tho and its another story

>>7796082
you god damn pussy, i was killing mice as an 8 year old

>>7793098

Exactly. If we just raised our dogs as pigs they would grow up to be pigs because everything is the fault of white "culture"

>>7795280
no they arent. they get cremated along with road kill. how do i know? I work at a crematory that contracts with animal control. we feel the burn everyday. the hair smells horrible but when the meat starts to burn it actually smells like food.

(I'm not a robot but i will kill your bread)

>>7790538
I only eat when the price is marked down for quick sale, so I don't help them make a profit.