/ck/ - Food & Cooking

It's no more dangerous in Germany than in any other country, provided the pork comes from a trusted source and it prepared properly.

>>7461616
Get good pork from a butcher. Mett is delicious with salt, pepper, onion and some capers as well.

>>7461640
Also good on it is fresh tomato, hard boiled egg and cucumber (pickled or raw)

>>7461616
that's nothing, in america the people eat this plastic yellow stuff insteaf of cheese.

I mean, they eat literal plastic.

>>7461616
>Doesn't know what tartar is
Degenerate scumsucking failed abortion

>>7461616
>Why would it be dangerous to eat raw pork in one country, but not others?

It's not. What you heard about not eating raw pork was seriously exaggerated.

The risk with undercooked pork is trichinosis, a parasitic disease. However, it's incredibly rare nowadays (in the developed world, anyway). Really really really incredibly rare.

for example. according to the CDC in the USA there's only about 10-15 cases per year, and the majority of those are hunters eating wild game meat cooked in the field, not meat that's been FDA inspected and sold for retail sale (or restaurants).

Basically you were the victim of hysteria growing up and were programmed to think that raw pork is dangerous. It's not.

Trichinosis used to be a more common thing in some countries and it's a pretty serious disease. That's why most of us grew up eating overcooked pork.

It's very rare to find it in pork these days. Most people that get it ate something like a rare bear steak or a rat they found. Even then there aren't many cases of it now.

Raw pork is one of those things you're warned about but are not dangerous most of the time, like playing with mercury or kids talking to strangers

>>7461650
So do asians because they cant eat actual cheese with lactose

Serving it shaped like hedgehogs is common for some reason

>>7461650
>in america

Which one? North, or south?

>>7461656
>pork

>>7461616
I had really great steak tartar in switzerland. I've known since then

cant you get trichinosis and possibly worms from eating uncooked pork?

>>7461678
Actual cheese tends to contain very little lactose compared to American cheese, which often contains milk powder. So you're talking shit

>>7461656
Steak tartar is normally understood as chopped (NOT ground) *beef*, whereas Mett is ground *pork*

There is a significant difference between chopped & ground, and pork and beef, for various reasons. Having said that, both tartar & Mett are relatively safe if from a good quality source and properly prepared.

What to Germans eat with it? Classic steak tartare has things like dijon mustard, minced onion and capers to help cut the richness. Are there any traditional accompaniments for it?

>>7461741
Brötchen and onions

>>7461723
Is it bad if even though I immediately recognized sonic, it took me a good minute to see tails as anything other than a pile of severed dicks?

>>7461755
exactly the same here

>>7461665

Its pretty common in germany tho. hmm wonder why

>>7461755
same

>>7461755
>>7461762
Ditto

>>7461848
i think you mean dildo
>>7461723
the culmination of an art degree

>>7461741
bread rolls, butter, onions.
It's regarded as breakfast btw.

>>7461665
It used to be much more risky than it is now. The chance of getting triched up from raw pork is very low now, but if you do, it would suck a lot.

>MFW starting 30 stam Prisoner croc with my Garp farm team

I was in the same thread on /pol/.

>>7461741
I eat this almost daily, pic. related.

>>7461908
that's why you are fat

>>7461908
enjoy it while it lasts

>>7461929
I'm 175cm tall and weight 70kg Sir.
>>7461943
Don't worry, the day of the rope will come soon enough.

>>7461943
TOPKEKED

>>7461898
>>7461665
The risk with raw pork is all kinds of bacterial infections, not trichinosis. Raw pork is only safe if it comes from a source with sufficient standards of hygiene in all aspects of processing and transport. Most ground pork at grocery stores is just as safe as ground beef, which is to say not at all.

>>7461681
>>7461686

Nightmare fuel

>>7461977
just a typical Mettigel (ground pork hedgehog)

>>7461974
there are strict rules for mett pork. like you can only sell it the same day you've butchered.

>>7461943
raw pork will be the only way to eat it in future Europe. The smell of cooking it will alert the sharia police and take you to be re-educated

>>7461682
Im guessing the he refers to the country that actually has "america" in its name.
But you allready knew that, didnt you?

>>7462038
In Germany all ground meat can only be sold the day it's produced. That doesn't change the fact that it could be covered in shit particles.

>>7461616
It's the same anon, it can be easily contaminated, I don't recommend too much pork, specially like raw.

>>7461965
What the fuck is the Day of the Rope?

>>7462075
google is a thing

>>7462082
I don't like what I googled.

>>7462090

>>7462075
he's a Kraut, so he's making a joke that he'll kill himself soon.
Either that or some sort of fascist cleansing but I feel that a german would joke slightly differently in regards to ethnic and social cleansing.
The Turner Diaries is an American novel, of course and I don't know if a Kraut would use that as an explicit reference.

>>7462110
>implying we don't read your fucking books
How fucking naive are you?! And how would you know about our sense of humour, especially on an anonymous image board?!
Of course I meant the coming race war in Europe and the reconquest of our beloved nation.
Muslims, kikes and race traitors will hang, it's only a matter of time now, the fire is fucking rising, this time for real!

>>7462148
>>>/pol/
go back from whence ye came

>>7462148
Fascism is a philosophy for people with low IQ's and those who feel that their own personal impotence must be avenged by a larger power. It's on the same level as being a republican or a democrat, it's just dogma and it might as well be considered mainstream bullshit compared to real political philosophy that have actual depth beyond "muh ancestors" and other illogical shit based on "muh feelings".

>>7462179

>>7461650
>American cheese can not be legally sold under the name (authentic) "cheese" in the US.

At least they know it

>>7461656
fuck off retard

>>7462179
you cant teach this to people. i vain to use the word sheep to apply to anyone, but if someone truly puts faith in such constructs, that is their lot in life, at least at that moment. im sure that i put faith in inconsistencies as well, and being religious automatically puts me in the category

>>7462075

It's the alternative to decades of the remaining white girls in Europe being mass raped daily followed by Eurabia.

>>7462090
is that real?, did chespirito really dress up as hitler?

>>7462324
just another example of government corruption defining terms to favorably market industries that pay them enough, very anti-capitalistic bullshit

>>7461665

>according to the CDC in the USA there's only about 10-15 cases per year

Surely there would be more cases per year if more people ate raw pork? It doesn't seem like something that a lot of people do, safe or not.

>>7462531
>Surely there would be more cases per year if more people ate raw pork?
Only if the pork is infected with trichinella which is incredibly rare these days.

>>7462179
>/ck/ - youtube chefs, raw pork, and autism

you grew up hearing all sorts of food related scares because health officials and the media chronically underestimated the human immune system's capabilities for years and years until very recently where we're finally accepting letting kids roll around in the dirt again. happened with raw eggs too, media hyped up the 1 in 20,000 chance of salmonella so we went from rocky eating raw eggs to everyone cooking them to fucking sulfur these days.

bred a generation of neurotic germophobes afraid of their shadow if it had e coil in it

you can eat med-rare chicken in certain sashimi joints in japan, and that's more of a bacterial minefield than pork ever was. even raw milk cheese can carry listeria. if you really want to avoid all stimulation in life because you're afraid you'll get sick you might as well just not go outside

oh wait lol

>>7462520
how does making it illegal to call american cheese real cheese favor any market?

wouldnt they want americans to buy thier own kind of cheese over others?

I make grill pork kabobs and cook it to where it is slightly pink but still cooked through. If you cook it anymore than that its not worth eating in my opinion.

Sometimes my family cooks pork roast. My mom is nuts and insists the pork has to be overcooked. The few times she pulled it out while it was still slightly pink are the few times I actually enjoyed eating it cooked. Probably equivalent to a medium/medium well cooked steak is perfect for a pork roast.

I have eaten raw bacon plenty of times to prove a point to the whiners who nonstop bitch and moan about undercooked meat but that's a topic for another thread.

>>7461706
>>7461734
Today my Dad who is Lebanese made ibbeh nayyeh (pic related) from steak. To be safe you can freeze the meat but we don't bother. It is important to use quality meat and process it with a clean food processor. Meat grinders at the butchers are not to be trusted for this dish unless you are in some ethnic store that prepares the meat daily for this dish.

I have eaten kibbeh my whole life against my mothers will and never remember becoming sick, compared to time off work because of bad mainstream sushi or seafood.

Kibbeh has a great fresh natural taste and is mildly spiced. It is a filling treat and best enjoyed with a beer or drink of arak. Most of my friends who are willing to eat sushi are willing to try kibbeh and all enjoy it. I always tell people that Europe has similar dishes such as steak tartare and carpaccio. Even first timers who are the well done steak kind of people don't mind it as raw steak once they try it. My poor mother usually fries it because she is afraid to try it raw.

I'm about to eat some of the leftover kibbeh as midnight snack as soon as this reply is posted.

>>7462715
>I have eaten kibbeh my whole life

Fellow Lebanon, me too, I have never understood the so called fact that raw meat is poisonous when I've eaten it forever

It's funny when people ask "what's that?" and I tell them it's raw meat, their reaction is as if I'm going to drop dead on the spot

>>7462715
>>7463130
make me this pls k thx

>>7461616
>Today I learned German people like to eat raw pork

I don't know a single person who likes Mett.

>>7463147
that's the reason you and everyone you know is weak

>>7461625
That's not true. Germany insanely strict food safety standards and lots of inspections.

>>7462626
JIDF get out

>>7461616
>7461616
looks like kitfo

>>7463147
I do
Not German tho

>>7461616
the equivalent raw food in mexico is "ceviche", it is raw fish marinated with lemon. You can get food poisoned by it if you don't do it properly but is yumi.

>>7463197
My grandmother is a pro at making it. She's not mexican tho.

>>7462548

>Only if the pork is infected with trichinella which is incredibly rare these days.

Do we know that it's rare, or just that cases of it infecting humans are so rare (due to low consumption rates of raw pork) that it's off the radar for the most part? Not trying to be argumentative, just interested.

>>7463207
Say hi to your mom on my behalf, she knows what's going on, i'll name her "honorary mexican" :3

>>7462179

>typical self enlightened intellectual pathologises the movement that has been demonised by decades of propaganda

Yeah but you're the free thinker right? HAHA

>>7461616
Different countries have different laws and regulations? Who knew.

>>7462586
Eggs for example.
In Yurop, they are sold unwashed (aka covered in dried hen pussy juices). It's a natural protective layer, and eggs are sold unrefrigerated.
It's banned to sell washed eggs, as this procedure can be dangerous.
(I've read somewhere that it encourage producers to use a cage system where the eggs are not covered in shit.)

In the US, eggs are washed. The law define water temperature and stuff.
The problem is that if the inside of the egg is disease free but there are bacteria outside, washing the egg can push bacteria inside (egg shell are porous.) Hence the importance of temperature and time.
They are then sold refrigerated.
It is banned to sell unwashed eggs (beside some exceptions like pasteurised eggs and farmer market stuff. I assume there's a warning somewhere.)

There are also differences about animal tracking from farm to dish, poultry vaccination and cremating entire farms livestock in some cases.


Idk if a method is better or not, I'll let /pol/acks claim superiority. I imagine changing a stupid law from the 70's would be a mess nowadays, so debates are even more useless.

Statistics are pretty much useless since raw yolks on (beef) tartare isn't exactly an American stereotype, the few nutcase who do it are not representative.

NB : presenting the yolk in a shell as in pic, even if "traditional" presentation, isn't safe. Without the shell it should be OK.

I imagine there are similar differences with raw beef/horse for tartare, pork for mett, ans sushi fish.

>>7463147
Almost everyone in the Ruhr district/Ruhrgebiet loves it.
We even have a Mett-Day at work, every office gets free Mett and rolls.

>>7461650
>I mean, they eat literal plastic.

Nah, you're meant too peel the plastic cover off m8.

>>7463339
Covering plastic in plastic. It's like you guys have a fascination for oil derived products...

And a (slightly oriented for comedic purposes) video on not cheese : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kjo2EFXjGBs
(The brother cinema-sin channel is more interesting, and blatant lack of objectivity may be less triggering.)

Need to try this next time i'm in Germany desu.

>>7463357
That was a shit video.

Mett is delicious desu

>>7461625
>It's no more dangerous in Germany than in any other country
>implying the health and safety regulations aren't better in a civilized country than in some shithole
>muh libertarian "after a few people dying the business would shut down and no more people would die, so the market is perfect xD" logic much?

>>7461616
Same reason why Japs put raw eggs on anything and use beaten eggs as dip.

It's all about quality standards.

>>7462057
What does that mean "produced"?
Same day the animal was butchered or just the same day the meat was ground up?
How old can the meat get before you grind it?

>>7462175
That's the exact think we're saying to the migrants and that somehow makes us evil racists.
Why do you think a nation should destroy itself by letting in any and all riffraff, but your precious 4chan board must be kept clean of people who don't always agree with you? Do you now see the dissonance?

>>7464488
But you're suggesting that it should happen the other way around which is equally dissonant.

>>7463357
>genetically modified wheat

I wish people would stop acting like this is a bad thing.

Enjoy your raw pork Gercucks

>>7461908
not enough onions.

Americans are scared of raw and "undercooked" meat from a combination of a lifetime of government food safety propaganda combined with relatively low safety standards in their meat farming industries.

>>7461616
You are talking about Metwurst. I once got food poisoning from it. It made me vomit 8 times in a very short time. Well I never eaten it since. Other than that its tasty as fuck.

would gamma rays destroy harmful microbes in raw meat?

>>7461656
>tartar
Retard.

>>7461838
CDC says from their gathered data that in Germamy there's 0-300 cases a year

In all of Germany? Maybe one case a day?
That's not a lot, at all

>>7462531
>>7462531
>Surely there would be more cases per year if more people ate raw pork? It doesn't seem like something that a lot of people do, safe or not.

They might go a little higher, but if so not by much. Five or so years ago the Department of Agriculture lowered their recommended internal temperature for pork from 160 to 145 degrees because trichinosis is considered so low risk that they no longer advise heating the meat enough to kill the parasite.

There are other issues regarding raw pork, but they're largely the same as any other raw or undercooked meat product (salmonela, e.coli, etc)

In general the danger is lower than government advice makes it sound (and the risk varies based on many factors), but you have to keep in mind that government advice is issued with public health rather than individual health in mind. Even when the individual rate is very low, you can prevent a lot of cases of disease by convincing most people to use preventative measures.

>>7461665
>Basically you were the victim of hysteria growing up and were programmed to think that raw pork is dangerous. It's not.

Being german this is so weird. On the one side you had no problem eating ground pork but on the other side you never really got to eat medium cooked pork, at least in my family.

A slowcooked medium porkloin is the best thing in the world.

>>7464539
Wtf is this

>>7464477

also how the japs can eat raw chicken.

>>7461908
Is this you?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9g4X7LnR18

>>7461682
>t. jose-gabriel santa-chupa de los patos

Having this argument with South Americans is always entertaining.

>>7461616
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>>7461686
Mettigel :3

>>7466371
A shitpost.

The picture is X rays of a Chinese woman who had consumed raw pork brains over the course of many years and over time had developed worms throughout almost her entire body. If I remember correctly, the worms had somehow disabled her nervous system in certain areas of the body so she didn't realize she was getting eaten away.

The anon who posted it is just living life in the meme lane.

>>7462110
>>7462175
>>7462179
(You)

>>7467335

lass mal raten, ironisches shitposting?

geh zurück nach /int/ du eingebildetes, dämliches arschloch

>>7463230

>demonized

not on 4chan so stop

>>7467312
Trichinosis can spread throughout the entire body regardless of how many worms >1 are initially consumed. One infection is enough

>>7461755
Same.

>>7462520
Process cheese is not the same thing as cheese. It's its own thing.

The bare minimum the government should do is that food labels are trustworthy. That you don't sell one thing as another. That's fraud.

>>7462102
Please fucking leave, we're here to talk about food, not conspiracy theories, you asshat

nothing wrong with raw pork, I eat it almost every day

They also do it in belgium except they mix some spices into it.

>>7470055
Belgian here, not necessarily
I like it on a pistolet with some pickles

>be medfag
>can't eat even slightly undercooked pork after seeing a huge wad of worms come out of a kid's ass
>mfw this thread

Why do people do this shit to themselves?

>>7461989
kek

>>7470192
Attention mostly

>>7461682

Would it not be possible to freeze the pork cold enough to kill the worms, then thaw in the fridge, and be able to safely consume pork raw?

>>7466380
[citation needed]

>>7470269

Yes. And most likely it's already been done for you. These days most pork sold in "first world" nations was already frozen from the trip from the packing plant to the market. It's actually hard to get pork that's never been frozen unless you're dealing with an old-school specialty butcher shop.

>>7470036

>>7467226
doesnt that just let you eat more without getting fat

>>7470289
God it's certainly not a food poster.

Your jew joke has become a reddit-tier meme. Actually, it's all over reddit now. Look, you're spamming in a food board like it's fucking desu or giga pudding.

>>7470373
Global rule 3 is in effect here, if he's bothering you, you know how to do your part.

>>7470373
The normies are waking up?

>>7470289
>>7470416
>/pol/ in utter disbelief that they haven't defeated every sub board of 4chan

/ck/ is immune to all cultural changes of 4chan.

>>7470423
Sadly it's not, but it's one of the more resistant boards. Moot shouldn't have second guessed himself when he killed /new/

>>7461650
>it's plastic cus it looks like it lol XD

Way to show you're even more ignorant and uneducated than the americans.

>>7470280
Never heard of chicken sashimi?
Educate yourself.

>>7461616
>Why would it be dangerous to eat raw pork in one country, but not others?

>Why can Europeans keep their eggs outside of the fridge without them going bad
>Why aren't German meats genetically modified?
>Why is french cheese not made of plastic byproducts?

What are food standards, anon. Not every country is a third world shithole like the US. Fucking americans I swear

>>7461650
to be precise it is ~7% real cheese stretched with 90% vegetable fat and a bit of grated carrots for the color.

>>7461616
but i thought pork was haram

>>7463214
Pork is still inspected for it prior to distribution so yes it's very rare.

>>7461681
>>7461686
I grew up eating Hackepeter and I never realized how weird Mettigel basically are.

>>7461616
I just sous vide my pork. Love my fuckin pink pork chops, tender as fuck.

>>7461616
Germans also have special toilets with built-in shit-shelfs so they can more closely inspect their turds for worms since they eat so much raw pork. And we all know how much Germans love inspecting scat

German here.
As long as I remember everyone said that it's ok if you eat it on the same day you bought it.
It's one of my favourite forms of meat

>>7471598
Nice meme

These are monstly gone. They stopped using them in the 70s.

>>7470882
Welp, nice things we had there.

TTIP will fuck this up big time.

>>7473177
What were they for?

>>7473186
Anti-splash i guess.

>>7473177
I really liked them

>>7473186
They were literally designed for inspecting shit

>>7473177
This. My Oma is the only person I know that still has one of these.

>>7462148

>German
>sense of humor

Pick one

And I have Germanic ancestry. That's why Mike Meyers used to make fun of you guys on SNL with the Dieter show. You're notorious for no sense of humor.

>>7462090
That not even a good filename

>>7474364
>implying the old Otto stuff isn't god tier

>These niggas never had rare pork

It's pretty dope.

>>7464406
>>muh libertarian "after a few people dying the business would shut down and no more people would die, so the market is perfect xD" logic much?
I hate libertarians so damn much. How can there be a whole political identity devoted to sucking corporate cock and advocating taking it in the ass too.

As if that weren't bad enough, they are for open borders too and still dare call themselves conservative.

>>7464477
I only trust the Japanese when serving raw meat.

After all they have government budget dedicated to shit like Fugu.

>>7474364
but then there is this dreamteam...

>>7470280
Watch the Parts Unknown episode in Tokyo, he is served safe rare chicken in a restaurant.

>>7477294

Also the episode of "Mind of Chef" in which David Chang visits Bird Land in Japan.

Or just google it.

>>7470882
This guy gets it

>>7461650
God, that shit should be illegal.

>>7477456

Why come

>>7477457
It triggers his autism.

>>7461616
>germans
This is a thing everywhere in the europes, you fucking fat burguers will never have proper meat/food controls since you eat so much and so much shit and you need it cheap

>>7474542
>>7477195

Never fucking heard of...

It doesn't matter what you people laugh at. You have no sense of humor. Was it funny enough for anyone outside your country to Lol? You know, ppl that have a sense of humor? No? Well then kindly stfu.

>>7477599
>I never heard of it so it has to be bad
Typical ignorant Americunt logic.

>>7461682
As a mexican, you are fucking retarded, of course he's talkkng about the glorious United States of America

>>7461681
i give it bonus points for the onion whiskers, an often not implemented little detail. but also taking onins for the eyes is just boring presentation.
Get some black olives , man. way better.

It's to do with climate. I can only speak from my countries climate but here in Australia we can eat wild pigs south of a certain point because anything north of that is warm enough for a certain disease or parasite to live in the pigs. The same goes for eating pork, not raw but not well done, when the pigs are farmed in the cooler southern climate

>>7462715
10/10 , would eat. And i say this as a german in a Mett thread.