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7460398 No.7460398 [Reply] [Original]

Why do vegans infuriate me so much?

>> No.7460406

Probably because you could never do it.

>> No.7460407

because they are obnoxious, loud people with superiority complex. like mudslimes or feminists.

>> No.7460409

because it's like tellling people you're "not even going to participate in the conversation" while participating in a conversation with yourself loudly enough so the people whose conversation you're totally never going to participate in can still hear you

>> No.7460413

Have you ever sniffed a vegans fart?

That's right, they don't even smell!

>> No.7460417
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7460417

It's because they're all morons. Just countertroll them so they don't get the best of you. I like tearing open a nice bag of beef jerky right in front of them. When they inevitably preach to you about how evil you are for eating meat, just stare them right in the eyes as you eat the entire bag. Then pull out another bag and continue until they shut the fuck up.

>> No.7460418

Because a lot of them are doing it wrong and feel manic (acting accordingly) once they eat?

>> No.7460454

why do vegans look like they're from a cult?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oas9fJCsjGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hdzVg6LhGE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNgA06xE_Ng

>> No.7460456

For the same reason Down's syndrome people infuriate you so much

>> No.7460466

>>7460454
Because they are a cult. They can't just be people who don't happen to eat meat, no they need a special name for it and to make it a lifestyle.

I don't like mushrooms, shall I invent a silly name and base every day of my life around making sure everyone else conforms to my eating habits?

>> No.7460467

>>7460398
Because veganism is a spook.

t. Stirner

>> No.7460469

>>7460454

>They believe that they're healthy.

Vegans always look so tired, and dehydrated... Then they're obnoxious enough to say that they're healthier than most people.

>> No.7460470

>>7460413
I'm surprised any gas can escape with their head as a cork.

>> No.7460471

pretentiousness

>> No.7460498
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>>7460398
Itt: Triggered cucks
Because you feel like someone else's outlook on the world that contradicts your own it must mean that they judge you [nospoilers]They're not[/nospoilers].
Don't be fucking faggots.

I will say this though; if you're a vegan and your stopping your non-vegan friends from going to a place that serves meat and animal products you are being an arsehole, just eat beforehand and enjoy their company.

>> No.7460502

>>7460454

cats + kitchens

literally the grossest combination, makes me gag every fucking time

holy shit

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>>7460398
Just to piss off the vegans.

>> No.7460506

veganism can kill babies. it can also stunt their growth. It' probably terrible for pregnant mothers as well.

>> No.7460707

>>7460417
And when they don't "inevitably" preach to you, you just start prodding them like an annoying 12 year old. "Hey veganon, does this make you uncomfortable lol"

Maybe not you, but it's a thing, and it's not particularly cute/funny when you've seen it 12 times. No, idiot, I actually don't care.

Oh yeah, gotta be stereotypical. *sticks nose up pretentiously* at least I don't judge people. /s

>> No.7460714

>>7460413
are you kidding?
when I was in highschool there was a vegan girl that skirted my outer circle of friends, and she would fart so frequently with such pungency that her farts became a thing of legend

if anyone farted it would immediately be compared to one of hers as though it was the bar all other farts were to be judged against. Not only for its intensity but also for its lingering power

I still remember that one thanksgiving...it forced 15 people to get up and step outside

>> No.7460726

>>7460398
because you're a typical angry 4chan virgin manchild with no self awareness

>> No.7460727

Veganism is probably the most privilaged diet.

>> No.7460784

>>7460714
Just turned vegetarian and yeah my farts are frequent and putrid. It's great.

>> No.7460817
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7460817

Fit vegan ginger - the picture of health!

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>>7460817
You can't be fit and vegan. Look at this world record holding faggot!

>> No.7460848

>>7460830
What makes you think he was vegan for a long time? He could have gone vegan last week for all you know

>> No.7460852

>>7460848

Not op but this guy has been vegan for a long time, he's pretty strong, probably on a bunch of gear too

But there are way stronger dudes who all eat meat and do roids

>> No.7460861

>>7460852
For sure, obviously this guy is not natural (and not claiming to be). I mean if you eat enough of anything you can get big, but eating meat is an easier way to do it.

>> No.7460866

They are the Societal Justice Warriors of food.

>> No.7460867

>>7460456

Downies are total bros most of the time.

>> No.7460868

>>7460469

Then they link you to those LOOK AT THIS VEGAN MMA CHAMPION articles, like it meant something.

My sister has been vegan for like five years now and she's constantly sick. Plus she's thin as a stick.. though she's always been. But now it's worse. At least she doesn't want to ever have children.

>> No.7460873

>>7460868
>At least she doesn't want to ever have children.

probably she lost her period already. veganism lmao.

>> No.7460897

anti-vegans are far worse. They just cry for attention and get mad that other people get it.

I think we all can agree on that. Well everyone except those who are like:
>>7460407
>>7460417
>>7460456
and so on. Pathetic.

>> No.7460901

>>7460897

kill yourself you pasty fucking rabbit

>> No.7460902

>>7460398
Fuck being vegan, my hair's falling out because I can only afford rice and beans

>> No.7460905

>>7460897
Shibbolethed the Vegan Justice Warrior.

>> No.7460908

Vegans = Redditors

>> No.7460929

I prefer vegetarians.

>> No.7460933

>>7460398

probably because you spend too much time on the internet and not around real people who are generally less infuriating than internet loudmouths or public figureheads.

People can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't bother me. People IRL tend to keep their mouths shut a lot more.

>> No.7460937

>>7460908

>my posts=cancer

>> No.7460941

They passively confront you with your own hideous personal and ethical shortcomings and hypocrisies. You resent the fact that they're on average more intelligent, have more sex, will live longer and enjoy life more than you ever will.

>> No.7460944

>>7460941

holy shit /thisthread

>> No.7460945

>>7460944
>>7460941
vegan defense force out in full swing

>> No.7460954

>>7460945
We need no defense, just a set of stairs to taunt you from the top of. Your fat ass will drop dead before you're even half way.

>> No.7460960

>>7460398
Holier than thou

>> No.7460976

>>7460954
>vegans think climbing stairs is a physical feat

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>>7460941

>vegans
>enjoying life

>> No.7461047

Infuriating things about vegans:

1) Social isolation. Sharing meals is a fundamental bonding ritual in every society. Observant Jews follow strict dietary rules that pretty much keep them from getting too chummy with non Jews. In the Western world a vegan diet accomplishes much the same thing, although this is becoming less and less the case. Even so it comes across as rude in many situations to be offered a meal and counter the offer with a set of stipulations for it.

2. Ethics. Many vegans believe their diet is ethically superior to the diets eaten by others around them. Being around someone who thinks they're ethically superior is annoying.

3. Proselytizing. Many vegans encourage those around them to go vegan. Generally the only people who enjoy being preached to are those who already agree with the preacher. Everybody else finds this shit annoying.

4. Special snowflake-ism. Being vegan is turning your back to the status quo. Throughout history those rich enough to eat meat and dairy ate as much of each as they could afford. In the Western world eating beef in particular is widely considered a symbol of success - it's part of our culture. Being vegan is turning your back to part of your culture. It's like not watching TV, not owning a car, not following sports or being an atheist. You're choosing not to participate in something most of your peers think is wonderful. Anyone who chooses to be different will draw some flak, because nobody likes a special snowflake.

5. Vegans are threatening. Cheeseburgers are delicious. So are steaks. Entertaining the idea that vegans might be right for even a second is a direct threat to beloved foods that are part of our culture.

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>>7460954
>stair climbing is the most exercise vegans are capable of

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>>7461051
how many vegans does it take to climb the ladder

>> No.7461085

>>7460852
There must be way stronger meat eating roiding dudes because he holds the WORLD RECORD YOKE WALK

>> No.7461282

>>7460505
What a brave, powerful message. Truly you are a modern day Copernicus. I tip my brimmed headpiece to you, m'lord.

>> No.7461285

>>7460398
Probably because you have autism

>> No.7461288

>>7460817
I didn't know ayy lmaos live among us.
And they don't even try to hide the fact that they're from outer space.

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>>7460398
1. They're healthier than you.

2. They're happier because they don't feel guilty over animal torture.

3. They have less chances of getting cancer. Fact: Eating meat increases your chances of getting cancer. This is FACT, not opinion.

4. They're braver than you. They can choose not to be like everybody else even though the rest of the world eat meat.

5. They don't have pieces of animal corpse rotting in their insides, their minds body and soul are on another plane of existence. They are the kings of this world, you are the peasant.

>> No.7461347

>>7460817
He probably looks better than the majority of people on this board

>> No.7461352

>>7461338
Here's how I respond to vegans as a way to shut them up:

Veganism is a diet of white privilege. It's another manifestation of subconscious white supremacy that they can lord over african-americans and other disadvantaged minorities.

While the oppressed are tweeting #BLM, vegans don't respond with #AllLiveMatter. Rather, they respond with the implication that #AnimalLivesMatter creating an equivalence between minorities and subhumanity.

They aren't capable of seeing their own hate and hypocrisy because privilege has afforded them the luxury of being blind to the plight of other humans. Instead they choose to elevate animals over their fellow human beings.

Never fails to raise their guilt levels over 9000 while also shutting them up.

>> No.7461357

>>7460398
They think they are better than you which totally defeats the point of being environmentalist or vegan to prevent slaughter of animals because they treat it as an indulgence from tge church to clear their guilt and act like assholes the test of the time, like prius drivers.

>> No.7461358

>>7461352
10/10 this guy bumped into a vegan on the street once

>> No.7461363

>>7460406
Western vegan food sucks, chinese buddhist have managed to make veggie food that does not suck for hundreds of years and montain a healthy weight instead of becomming skelletons, but white people end up etring just lettuce and get scurvey or jaundice like Ellen page.

>> No.7461369

>>7460413
Bullshit.

>> No.7461372

>>7460498
You've never been to college.

>> No.7461374

>>7461372
Not that guy, but my edgy anti-vegan years indeed were in college. In the real world, extreme points of view aren't really a thing

You're still in college, aren't you

>> No.7461381

>>7461352
This.

Nobody praises the chinese and Ibdians who have been vegan for centuries, but when white people do it, it'a privilege.

>> No.7461382
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>>7461352
Here's how I respond to cancer patie--- I mean meat eaters:

1. Eating meat increases your chance of getting cancer. This is FACT.

2. Vegans don't support inhumane, cruel way of needlessly killing animals. That's why they're happy with themselves while you're a raging miserable edgelord.

3. Vegans have the balls to go against the entire world despite knowing everyone is against them. You don't. You're a pussy compared to vegans.

4. Eating animal corpse has been proven to cause diseases and basically just ruin your body. Don't believe me? Do some research, call a nutritionist. Go ahead. It's FACT that animal corpse rotting in you is a bad thing. You can get butthurt all you want, reality is reality.

>> No.7461384

Because you're insecure

If anyone else's lifestyle, having no immediate effect on you, makes you mad then they have power over you. Get over it

>> No.7461389

>>7461352
damn dude this is some top notch shit!

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>>7461338
>you need protein for brain growth
b-b-but I eat my vitamins and nuts
>proteins in plants or medicine or from any other source other than meat is not the same and goes against ancient evolutionary eating practices from our ancestors
b-b-but what about the dead animals?
>3% of the population in the us are vegans, its not changing much in the slaughter house
I-I-I need my iron so I eat beans and whole grains
>iron is best consumed through meat products and it is vital for the creation of estrogen levels in women where as whole grains and beans dont contain the proper iron levels or quality

fucking killyourselves with your fucking hipster vegan theories

>> No.7461397

>>7461352
Vegetables, rice and beans are literally some of the cheapest foods you can purchase. How is that white privilege?

>> No.7461403

>>7460398
It's genetic memory from thousands of years of vegans being useless to hunter gatherer communities. It's not just vegans. Neanderthals may have all had ginger/red hair and were eradicated by homo sapiens which might explain some of the negativity towards them today

>> No.7461408

>Eating meat increases your chance of getting cancer. This is FACT.
So?

>Vegans don't support inhumane, cruel way of needlessly killing animals. That's why they're happy with themselves while you're a raging miserable edgelord.
Who cares about being happy?


>Vegans have the balls to go against the entire world despite knowing everyone is against them. You don't. You're a pussy compared to vegans.
And?

>Eating animal corpse has been proven to cause diseases and basically just ruin your body. Don't believe me? Do some research, call a nutritionist. Go ahead. It's FACT that animal corpse rotting in you is a bad thing. You can get butthurt all you want, reality is reality.
So what? We all die one day, might as well eat delicious

>> No.7461410

>>7461397
>implying anyone here actually cooks
You're talking to a board whose ideas of possible foods are based on frozen junk food. Obviously a frozen white castle burger has more protein than a frozen vegan pizza, therefore if anyone thinks they can get their nutrients without a microwave must live in a third world country

>> No.7461411

>>7461382
>1. Eating meat increases your chance of getting cancer. This is FACT.

Sure, but it's not enough to matter. Using electronic devices has the same risk, yet you seem to have no problem with that.

>2. Vegans don't support inhumane, cruel way of needlessly killing animals.

Who cares? And you can't be all that good: electonic components like those in your precious cellphone generate horrific enviornmental impact (not to mention slave labor in 3rd world countries) to mine and refine, yet you seem to be OK with that. You think you're moral, but you're really just picking and choosing.

>3. Vegans have the balls to go against the entire world despite knowing everyone is against them. You don't. You're a pussy compared to vegans.

Why would that matter at all? Who gives a fuck what other people think?

>4. Eating animal corpse has been proven to cause diseases and basically just ruin your body.

Yeah, just like how having "rotting compost" in your gut wouldn't be any good either. Referring to normal food with a silly name just makes you look like a moron.

As for the relative safety of foods, there are more disease outbreaks and recalls for plant-based foods than there are for meat-based foods. More people get sick every year from contaminated produce than the do from contaminated meat.

Face it, you're choosing words to propagandize a lifestyle choice that you think makes you better than everyone else. You're not.

>> No.7461412

>>7461408
>Who cares about being happy?
srsly?

>> No.7461418

>>7461403
Veganism started when humans shifted from hunting to agriculture, genius

>> No.7461442

>>7461418
Not quite. It was a reaction to industrialization. Vegetarian groups started in response to the Industrial Revolution, and the term "vegan" was coined in 1944. By then livestock was increasingly raised in industrialized situations, making the ethics of not eating meat more of an imperative.

>> No.7461448

>>7461442

Buddhism advocated vegetarianism a fucking long time before that, anon. I'm sure there are other examples as well.

>> No.7461453
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Because somewhere deep down inside, there is something of a legitimate point behind veganism.

Vegans are just really, really, really, REALLY collectively all fucking awful at arguing that point, and, >>7461338 is the prime example.

It's like they don't even want to convince people about the validity of their views, it's just a fad to them like cigarettes to an /fa/ggot, worn and then discarded like the next big meme.

But personally... are you really that satisfied that millions of creatures suffer endlessly all hours of their existence for meaningless lives that end in fueling my next burger? I mean, can't we be doing this with a little less complete and utter callousness? Chickens (https://static1.squarespace.com/static/515cca87e4b0bca14d767b61/t/530d2250e4b0b60005707556/1393369680975/Brainy+Bird.pdf https://search.informit.com.au/documentSummary;dn=308061469826696;res=IELHSS)), pigs (http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822%2810%2900917-6 http://animalstudiesrepository.org/acwp_asie/43/)), cows (http://www.appliedanimalbehaviour.com/article/S0168-1591%2803%2900294-6/abstract)), they're all as intelligent or more so than your dog, but you ask a Westerner to eat his dog and he'll fucking slap you because 'muh feelwings muh companion animul ;~;'

It's not like these are PETA bullshit studies, and it doesn't make much sense to me either, the arbitrary line in the sand modern society draws toward "cute animals" (read: companion animals) and "food animals". All I ever hear is moral arguments and feelings and muh companionship with nothing of objective weight or fact and then I watch this and realize it's all bullshit in the end.

>> No.7461455

>>7461448
Sure. The Orthodox Christian Lenten fast is vegan as well.

>> No.7461470

>>7461453
>>are you really that satisfied that millions of creatures suffer endlessly all hours of their existence for meaningless lives that end in fueling my next burger

>> ITT describing mcdonalds employees
>>> ITT all humans - jupiter ascending

>> No.7461473

>>7461470

( mcdonalds hours are 24/7 )

>> No.7461485

>>7461453
>, there is something of a legitimate point behind veganism.
no there isnt

>> No.7461498

>>7460848
wow what a shitty argument. how embarrassing

>> No.7461504

>>7461453
>But personally... are you really that satisfied that millions of creatures suffer endlessly all hours of their existence for meaningless lives that end in fueling my next burger?

Oh, I agree with you there. I just think that going vegan isn't the only way of avoiding industrial factory farming. For example, you can simply eat LESS meat instead of no meat. And the meat you do eat can come from free-ranged happy animals rather than something that's been crammed in a cage all its life. Not all meat comes from factory farms. And an animal which was raised on a traditional-style farm and then is slaughtered has a much better life (and quicker death) than one living in the wild only to die via a predator, starvation, or old age.

>> No.7461519

>>7461453
This may be somewhat true, but vegans are the ones who watch this disturbing videos and shit, so they are constantly reminded of it all, we are just ignorant

>> No.7461528

>>7461498
But it's true... You can see many "vegan" body builders who just went vegan not long ago, but you get the impression they started out as tiny little guys and got huge on just a vegan diet, which isn't true at all.

>> No.7461530
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They are biological cuckolds, refusing to rise to the Apex Predator Status Which Is The Human.

>> No.7461533

>>7461504
>you can simply eat LESS meat instead of no meat. And the meat you do eat can come from free-ranged happy animals r
Not the Anon you're responding to, but this is what I do. But that has me eating meat so infrequently that I usually just say I'm vegan because it's easier than having to explain. 90% of the meals I eat are vegan. Unless there's some scrupulously raised meat available I'll be getting the vegan option anyways.

>> No.7461538

>>7461504
That's why I argue that vegans are really bad at arguing their point. They have tons of material they -could- be using... to convince people, if not cut out meat entirely, at least eat less meat, but they don't. Instead they dump buckets of blood on people for wearing fur and throw euthanized cats and dogs into the dumpster. No shit everyone despises them.

>> No.7461567

>>7461538
That's because people prefer to view the world in terms of black and white, right and wrong. Especially in America the idea that ethics can be shades of grey is unpopular. Moral relativism is too complicated for most people. They don't want to have to think about anything more complicated than the plot of a Shonda Rhimes show if they can help it.

>> No.7461572

>>7461567

But it's even worse than you describe. OK, so the idea of factory farming is bad. That's the starting premise. So don't eat factory farmed meat. That's not the same as eating NO meat at all.

>> No.7461585

>>7461572
For some folks it's more than that. (Personally I'm in the camp of if you can't do no harm do as little as possible). But some folks passionately believe if you can live without killing animals then you should not be killing them. They see any slaughter of animals for food as causing unnecessary suffering because we live in a world where there are other things to eat.

I could never go that far because I'm neither a monk nor a moral absolutist. But they have a point. It just happens to be a point people who like food sure as fuck don't want to consider (self included).

>> No.7461591

>>7460398
Pathetic and whiny people in general. Proselytize worse that religious nutjobs. The kind of people who support PETA.

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>>7460398
Probably because the crazy obnoxious bastards do stupid shit like pic related...

>> No.7461606

>>7461585
Oh, I'm happy to consider the point.

Ask yourself, which is better from the Cow (or pig or chicken or....'s) perspective:

1) live in the wild where the chance of survival beyond "childhood" is very slim, have to constantly fight for food, flee from predators, only to die a horrible death at the claws/teeth of a predator, or starve to death due to bad teeth or injury.

-or-

2) Live on a farm where food and shelter are provided, predators are non-existent, medical care is provided, and then to to die a very quick death?

I agree that factory farming is needlessly cruel, but that doesn't mean that all farming falls into the same category.

>> No.7461612

>>7461538
It's not "vegans". It's "some vegans". There's nothing we can do about the few of us that are very loud and annoying. The rational thing to do would be ignore them, but I can hardly blame people.

I mean, really, look at this >>7461591 How often do you see this, instead of just people going "eh, I don't really care about vegans at all" Vocal minorities are a problem everywhere.

>> No.7461614

>>7460714
>when I was in highschool
So this happened two hours ago?

>> No.7461629

>>7461606
We're on the same page. But a vegan would say there is no reason to keep livestock animals at all anymore because we do not need them to survive. All we're doing is adding needless suffering to a world (even if it is just one "bad day" for the animal raised on the ideal farm).

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>>7460406
man why do you people give a fuck? youre even more annoying than them. whatever, let them be, let them feel superior, is not like theyre actually doing something different, at least 99% of them.

if youre annoyed by this that just shows that you dont really like what you do but that you do it feeling forced to.

pic unrel

>> No.7461636

>>7461632
not meant to quote >>7460406

>> No.7461653

>>7460398
they are esentially cuckolds.

>> No.7461664

>>7460901
>>7460905

>them tears

>> No.7461667

>>7461632
>man why do you people give a fuck?

Because if you don't sound off against insanity, you condone and propagate it, that's why.

>> No.7461677

>>7460398

Because you're a typical SJW who can do nothing but cry.

>> No.7461698

Do you guys hate vegetarians too?

>> No.7461720

>>7461698

There's not enough time in this world to hate what others eat.

>> No.7461725

>>7461408
I was a vegan, then I read your post and realized my mistakes.

>> No.7461728

>>7461720
I asked about vegetarians, not the food

>> No.7461737

>>7461533
So you're a liar and a coward.

>> No.7461753

>>7461728

Your question was answered, memer.

>> No.7461758

>>7461397
>Vegetables, rice and beans are literally some of the cheapest foods you can purchase

You put the word "organic" before any of those, and they start to cost so much more.

>> No.7461774

>>7461737
No, just an ethical relativist.

>> No.7461798

>>7461774
So, someone who just needs to be labeled.

>> No.7461814

>>7461798
When labels are convenient why not?

>> No.7461817

>>7461737
Perfect description for vegans like you

>> No.7461824

>>7461528
If they can maintain their size on a vegan diet they can easily put on weight on a vegan diet

>> No.7461836

>>7461824
>easily
Not really, the volume of food needed would be much higher. Calorie dense foods are not as common to an omnivore.
Being a picky eater in general is just a terrible life choice.

>> No.7461906

They're degenerates. People that feel like outcasts or have no real life skills who need a snowflake diet to feel special and morally special at the same time

>> No.7461913

>>7461906
>morally special
morally superior*

>> No.7461922

>>7461906
Life isn't a competition.

>> No.7461925

>>7461614
it's almost more embarrassing if you know how old I actually am, and that I still come to this site

>> No.7461936

>>7460398
because its not just a lifestyle, its something they need to tell everyone so they can feel better about themselves

its like people that donate and put their names on those hearts that say "i paid a dollar"

congrats, you need validation

>> No.7461937

>>7461922
Life is a competition with ourselves

Most people have tightly knit families, a steady job to go to everyday, religion, children etc. but break that apart and you'll get degenerates. People will start looking to other ways to define themselves and give their life purpose. Veganism is one of them

>> No.7461960

>>7461347
That's a girl, anon.

>> No.7461975

>>7460454
>second video
>that stash of food at 4:23

How rich is this bitch?

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>>7460817
This girl looked like this 3 years ago, before she went vegan. She obviously has an eating disorder though and that with veganism is probably not good

>> No.7462129

>>7461382
>Vegans don't support inhumane, cruel way of needlessly killing animals.

Quick question here faggu, but what do you think happens to the animals when deforestation happens so that you can get your bean curds and tofu? Hope you enjoy that quinoa soy latte cause the animals that got killed cause they just happened to live where fertile soil is sure as hell won't get to enjoy it.

>> No.7462172

>>7460398
Watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExEHuNrC8yU

Although I'm sure you wont because you're such a pussy

>> No.7462199

>>7461836
Nuts are some of the most calorie dense foods out there. If a strongman can maintain their size and strength on a vegan diet, adding in another 500 to 1000 calories is nothing, especially when you take into account all the carbs you can consume without feeling uncomfortably full like after a big meaty meal.

>> No.7462217

>>7460398
I don't know. Does it piss you off just by the fact that they're vegan? If that's the case, I'd say it's more of a you issue. Even if you can reason out you own objections to the practice, it's pretty messed up to get so freaked by someone else's dietary choice. I've met some nice and considerate people who are vegan, and I've met shitheads who are vegan. I will say that cooking for vegans can be annoying because the base definition doesn't make any sense, but in general, all the shit I cooked for vegans in restaurants basically just didn't have meat or dairy in it. It gets a little crazy when people start drawing their own lines beyond that, but so long as they aren't asking me to cater to their insanity, and so long as they remain an insignificant percent of the population, idgaf. That's my take on it anyway, maybe some of that resonates with you, maybe not.

>> No.7463050

>>7460398
Because you take them seriously. Don't do this. Some people are just different. Some people are crazy. You don't have to get angry about it. Just let them do their thing, and you do your thing, and everybody gets along. You can even tell this to confrontational people. :D

>> No.7463062

>>7460398
because despite their shitty life choices they feel the need to preach to everyone through a megaphone about how they are "harming their bodies and the environment" when in reality they are just trying to convince themselves that what they are doing isn't weird. it's like any hipster bs fad, really. soon being a carnivore will be the new thing again. bacon will be back in style and its cyclical. frankly I like the vegan side of this cycle because I hated the bacon meme so so so so fucking much

>> No.7463091

>>7460398

the type of people that would become vegans annoy you, not the act itself.

>> No.7463102

>>7461976
She looks like a fucking goblin now, what the fuck. It definitely seems like a mental illness

>> No.7463111

>>7460830
he must come from a lot of money if he started out vegan around the same time he lifted or at least if he was lifting for a long time and vegan before competing, because the amount of money he spends on food must be insane especially to get that protein

>> No.7463144

I eat a vegan diet
>it's expensive
>my farts don't smell, nor does my shit (although that might be due to my opiate use), seriously I have to literally break open my shit and put it right near my nose to smell it, and yes I do that
>I don't preach to other people about how healthy it is, but I can see why some people do, I feel a noticeably more healthy since adopting this diet. I'm not saying every vegan is more healthy but you know, maybe all the preachers are on to something?
think of it like this: would you rather step in dog shit or sheep shit? sheep shit right? and why is that? what makes dog shit so much more disgusting than sheep? it's because the sheep just eats grass, but the dog eats animal proteins, bones, all kinds of rank shit and then he shits out the waste from that. At least in my case I'm far more aversive to dog shit than sheep shit. So I just thought about that in relation to my own shit. If my shit is to be as least disgusting as possible what should I eat? animal fat? No I should eat things like fresh fruit, raw vegetables.

It just makes sense to me, if my shit isn't even that disgusting to me, then it must mean that what I'm putting in my body is nice and high quality and healthy. if my shit is disgusting, then that means my body was taking in nutrients from something I'm highly aversive to, and disgusted by which to my mind means that thing is not healthy. Why would I put the ingredients of that disgusting shit, in my body, if it disgusts me to see what my body couldn't absorb?

So I want my shit to be as least disgusting as possible, so that I am healthy. If my shit isn't disgusting, then it means I must be putting in healthy high quality food, as evidenced by the fact that what my body didn't want or didn't absorb from the food, and expels as waste, doesn't disgust me. So it just so happens that the food which makes the least disgustng shit (and therefore the healthiest) is raw vegan foods.

>> No.7463155

>>7460726
Spotted the vegan.

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>>7463144

>> No.7463160

>>7461412
I do but I fail every time

>> No.7463182

>>7463111
>the amount of money he spends on food must be insane especially to get that protein
lentils, my man

>> No.7463205

I mean vegetarians are worse even though they're more lenient but they're just there to be a stick in the mud but they go ahead and eat cheese and fish.
vegans are hard to come by and if they're already taken care of their special needs then good job.
i have encountered some "whole foods" or i don't know how to call them, where they like milk their own cows and kinda go about their own things, I like that better, i mean just kill your own food instead of "leaving a footprint" or whatever the term is called. more proficient than just plain not using any animal products.

that being said i personally do what i want, i don't really encounter any of those weirdos peddling their ideology

>> No.7463253

>>7460830
roids are vegan

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>> No.7463260

As a meat eater, vegetarians are worse. Do you think the animals stick around after they're no good for milk or eggs? Why is it OK to support the killing of animals that way?

>> No.7463264

>>7460398
Because you're an insecure manchild

>inb4 fuck off vegan!!

I'm not.

>> No.7463266

>>7461602
Peta does a lot of stupid shit, but what's so bad about that?

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>>7461602
>left one wears panties

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I just like dead shit.

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>>7463277

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>>7463280

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>>7463281

>> No.7463284

>>7463283
Beef instead?

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>>7463284

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>>7463288
Nah, more pork?

>> No.7463297

>>7462129
This. I guess pesticides don't kill bugs?

Bugs are alive too, faggot.

>> No.7463311

>>7463280
it's illegal to slow bleed in the US. factories tend to use a machine that just bops them on the head and kills them almost instantly. sometimes it doesn't work obviously then the workers step in. but as for being killed humanely is seems to be bretty gud. no one wants to work in a slaughterhouse where it's 4 walls and a pig squealing at the top of its lungs. it's too fucking loud. your gifs look like Mexican slaughterhouses

>> No.7463322

>>7463288
>halal meat

>>7463294
>the Chinese

>> No.7463326

>>7463311
Also money, you can't wait around for it to throw itself around, bleed everywhere and stress its meat out. People need pork chops. People need lasagna.

>>7463277
Why do pigs keep kicking after their heads cut off? Their not eels. How the fuck is that possible.

>> No.7463328

>>7463326
Stray electrical signals going down the nerves, I guess.

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>>7463322
>>the Chinese

>> No.7463336

>>7463335
I swear, chinks are the worst people.

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>>7463335

>> No.7463338

>>7463335
>>7463337
I like these two because of the little bro dogs in each one who have no clue.

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>>7463338

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>>7463340

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>>7463346

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>>7463349

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>>7463355

>> No.7463371

>I'm angry at people who live their lives differently from me
>They're annoying!!
>To counter them, I will be even more annoying than they are!!

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>being an edgetard

I like meat as much or more than the next guy but prolonged suffering is pointless and makes the meat taste crap.

>> No.7463378

>>7463326
slow bled meat is supposed to taste a lot better though. just what I've heard. you could be right about stressing out the meat

>> No.7463385

>>7463335
>>7463337
considering dogs in non first irks countries are like rats I can't say I blame them. we just rage about if cause we see Fido in each fur ball. but the reality is although we tend to feel compassion stronger towards mammals, dogs are street vermin to the Chinese, Mexicans etc etc. I don't think I'd ever eat one regardless. it's probably really gross.

>> No.7463388

>>7463385
irks = world

>> No.7463485

>>7463144
>It just makes sense to me, if my shit isn't even that disgusting to me, then it must mean that what I'm putting in my body is nice and high quality and healthy. if my shit is disgusting, then that means my body was taking in nutrients from something I'm highly aversive to

That's so goddamn wrong I can't believe you convinced yourself of it

>> No.7463497

>>7463111
Lentils, nuts, plant based protein powder, beans. How does he afford all that?!

>> No.7463511

>>7463497
idk where you come from but all of those aren't that cheap except maybe beans and lentils but even then you have to eat a fuck ton to get the same protein intake.

>> No.7463573

>>7460398
Because they have some sort of condition where they can't help but tell everyone and their grandmother that they are vegan, while also acting smug and arrogant about it. They usually also have a hipster look, making them even more obnoxious.

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>>7460398
Because I was raised in an environment where everyone thought, ate, looked, and talked exactly like me. Anyone doing differently is likely mentally ill and doing it for attention.

>> No.7463605

>>7463581
I was brought up on nothing but premade shit with cheese all over it and frozen vegetables if I was lucky. Didn't stop me appreciating other kinds of food.

>> No.7463627

>>7463511
Sunflower seeds and peanuts are pretty cheap. One serving of lentils is 18 grams of protein. One can of black beans is almost 30 grams of protein. I don't use protein powder so idk how much that is, but yeah I hit my macros way quicker on a plant based diet than I did eating meat.

>> No.7463727

I have a few vegan friends and they never bother me about what i eat just like i never make fun of their food. Vegans aren't a problem, assholes are.

Where the hell do you guys find these vegan jackoffs that actually try to tell you how to eat?

>> No.7463737

>>7463346
>>7463340
>>7463337
>>7463335
Fuck china, and fuck you for posting this you goddamn faggot.

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>>7463727
4channers spend most of their waking hours searching the internet for people with bizarre beliefs. after reading internet postings of other mentally ill people for hundreds of hours a month, it becomes "obvious" to them that there's a vast conspiracy of {insert extremely elaborate belief system that clashes with their own fantasies which also stem from undiagnosed mental illness}

this place is exactly like facebook except instead of soccer moms getting worked up over gluten, it's 29 year old neckbeards still living with mommy and daddy getting mad about "social justice warriors", vegans, and "feminazis".

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>>7460726

>> No.7463839
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>>7460398
Because they're better than you!!

And they know it

>> No.7463844

>>7463745
that picture is hilarious! what you just said is pretty on the mark. People get way too caught up in their opinion being the only opinion.

Sidenote: SJW, veganism, and feminism are all good concepts just ruined by extremists and psychos that turn well-adjusted people off.

>> No.7463848

>>7463737
>getting mad because some dumb fucking dog gets eaten by a chink thousands of miles away whilst he contributes to dog overpopulation because muh survivul of da cutewest ;v;

let the fucking chinks eat them, we have too many fidos on the fucking streets breeding spreading disease and ruining the local wildlife. Fuck you for anthropomorphizing them you piece of shit, dogs are trash.

>> No.7463889

So question, do Vegans actually know how to cook dishes, like a vegetarian curry or stir fry, or do they just everything raw as a salad or some shit? I have the impression that they don't actually know how to cook their vegetables.

>> No.7463901

>>7463889
Everyone is stupid except you, anon. Thank you for spending 100 hours a week posting here, we've learned so much from you.

>> No.7463914

>>7463889

Like anything else you've got morons and people who know what they're doing. The moron vegans buy pre-made boxed vegan meals and microwave them. The non-moron vegans buy vegetables and cook from scratch.

Same concept applies to non-vegans: the idiots buy boxed meals, the people who know how to cook buy meat, produce, seafood, etc. and cook from scratch.

>> No.7463928

>>7463901
It's an honest question because most vegans seem like hipster trash who probably can't cook for shit and just go out to some expensive ass restaurant for salads and shit. Basically I'm operating under the assumption that vegans are rich kids who go to some overpriced store like whole foods.

>> No.7463936

>>7463928
>hipster trash
I can't take your question seriously at this point. You probably think people who go to Starbucks or own Apple products are hipsters

>> No.7463957

Autism, probably.

Although I'll agree with >>7461363 that western (Especially SoCal-conjured) vegan food is disgusting.

>> No.7464035

>>7463936
They're certainly richer if that's the case.

>> No.7464148

Vegetarianism is a dietary change. Veganism is a religion.

>> No.7464173

>>7463326
probably cut through the cerebellum

>> No.7464262

>>7463745
I'm 27, work at IBM, have a 3 year old son and live with my girlfriend...

>> No.7464333

>>7460454
poor kitties :(

>> No.7464380

>>7463928
>hipster trash
I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Young adults who live in cities and have a little money in their pockets? Those folks do tend to eat out a lot, and the places where they go frequently have vegan options on the menu.

But most vegans I know cook because they have to. Eating all your meals at proper restaurants is expensive, and vegan fast food gets tired quickly (felafel, veggie burgers and Pan-Asian is pretty much it). Vegan convenience foods like Tofurkey are both expensive and shitty. Most vegans I know cook lots of curries, Mediterranean and Chinese dishes.

There are some so called raw vegans out there, but I think that's mostly a Hollywood thing, and they have people who prepare their food for them.

>> No.7464744

>>7460466
If almost every human on earth ate mushrooms and they were creatures that could feel pain and suffering and harmed the environment like all hell, then sure, abstaining from eating mushrooms might warrant its own name so that people knew not to serve you mushrooms, or so that you'd be able to more easily seek out a class of recipes that didn't use mushrooms.

>> No.7464772

>>7460454
>Forcing your omnivore pets to be vegan against their will

I hope her cats leave dead mice corpses on her pillow when she wakes up in the morning

>> No.7464826

>>7460398
>Why do vegans infuriate me so much?

Pretentious douchebags that think they have the right to decide what is morally right and wrong for humans to eat.

They're like children...except they don't have the excuse of youth for their irrational thinking and behaviors.

>> No.7464837

>>7464826
Someone's mad they're rightly implicated as an autist murderer

>> No.7464838

>>7460398
your life isn't going well, but it's easier to project your frustrations on other people. Solve your self-loathing, and you won't give a fuck about what other people eat anymore.

>> No.7464847

>>7464826
I'd be curious as to whether you've ever met a preachy vegan who wasn't also in their teens or early 20s.

I knew a few in college but post-college the only people I've found out are vegan were after starting a conversation with them about food, what they like to eat, etc.

Last year I was taking a language class with a doctor in his 60s who is vegan. Nicest guy you'd ever meet, super low key.

Helps to talk to people IRL instead of learning about subcultures from weird blogs you found.

>> No.7464866

>>7464847
The exception is not the norm, anon.

>> No.7464874

>>7464772
Cats aren't even omnivores, they are obligate carnivores, they can't digest anything BUT meat.

>> No.7464886

>>7460941
I would give up on ever having sex again and sell twenty IQ points if I could just eat steak for free every day.

Even if all that bullshit about how great Vegans lives are is true, I still wouldn't trade them for meat. Meat is more important than all of that.

>> No.7464894

>>7464826
Is there even a case to be made for the morally okay slaughter of animals? I mean, if we can survive off of terribly boring things like rice and beans, and even soylent, why do we eat animals? Because we can?

>> No.7464899

>>7464866
Your idea of a norm is not everyone's norm

>> No.7464904

>>7464866
That didn't answer my question.

Have you ever met a preachy middle aged vegan, in real life?

>> No.7464906

>>7464899
If all norms are relative, what does norm mean?

>> No.7464995

>>7464894

>thinks they have the right to define what is and isn't "moral"
>thinks it's less "moral" to kill and eat plants because reasons

What a douche.

>>7464904

Yes....but they're usually urbanites, and are relatively clueless about the world beyond their cities.

Cali and Washington are filled with them.

>> No.7464999

>>7464906
>what does norm mean?

The majority....well, that's what it USED to mean, but now the "norm" simply means whoever makes more noise.

>> No.7465023

>>7464995
>clueless about the world beyond their cities
Said the toothless hick who gets confused by revolving doors and escalators

>> No.7465032

>If everyone in the U.S. ate no meat or cheese just one day a week, it would be like not driving 91 billion miles – or taking 7.6 million cars off the road.

http://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/a-meat-eaters-guide-to-climate-change-health-what-you-eat-matters/reducing-your-footprint/

Is this a reasonable compromise? It's obviously not immoral to eat meat, but in terms of improving one's health and helping the environment this seems like a relatively painless sacrifice.

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7465039

Let's list good things about vegans:

>They don't breed

>> No.7465046

>>7465032
Facts are upsetting to meatheads from little meth towns where thinking about changing the way you look at the world in even a small way is seen as dangerously subversive.

You are now about to get crapflooded with idiots who can't into math and think that the existence of livestock feed is a big secret.

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I mean....can't we all at least agree vegan deserts are pretty fucking good?

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>>7465089
The people who did Cinnamon Snail are opening a brick and mortar soon.

Yes yes, vegan organic. I laughed too, and I laughed at the lines. Then I tasted their food and I didn't laugh anymore. Instead I bought their cookbook.

>> No.7465105

>>7464995
It's just a discussion, stop talking about the 'right to define morals' whatever that is supposed to mean.

You didn't really bother to respond. Why do we eat animals?

"Because plants are just like animals too so whatever you douche" ?

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>>7465023

>> No.7465148

>>7460454
Third one sounds completely nuts.
>3.3 lbs of oranges for breakfast
>2.2 lbs of bananas (including peels) for lunch
>10 lbs of romaine lettuce + a bowl of dates for dinner

I wonder how many of these people are full of shit that they do this day in, day out?

>> No.7465157

>>7465105
>Why do we eat animals?

Animal flesh generally offers a better nutrient / energy ratio by weight, and also by what it takes to digest and process in our bodies. I suppose we could always switch to insect farming, but I haven't done much research on the subject to say one way or the other.

Vegetative materials tend to be harder to process for energy, and are less nutrient dense than animal flesh. That's why ungulates have such elaborate digestive systems, and why we don't.

I've seen what happens to the people that don't have access to animal proteins the way we do in the west, and it's not pretty. They are physically smaller, weaker, and don't have near the muscle or bone mass most westerners do. Lack of ample meat proteins makes people weak and scrawny.

>> No.7465163

>>7465157
Nice autism

>> No.7465199

>>7460506
>probably terrible for pregnant mothers
It is.

Veganism is dangerous because most people are too stupid, lazy and cheap to be able to do it without eventually leading to health complications.
Not that you can't do that with any general diet (or lack thereof).

But the media tells you about kids dying from shitty 'vegan' parents on a regular basis these days.

>> No.7465200

>>7465199
>veganism is dangerous because some stupid people do it wrong

>while carnism is inherently safe in every way!!!!

Impressive autism

>> No.7465201

>>7460817
It can affect your nerves, dexterity and cognitive function if you don't maintain proper nutrition.
Which most* idiots that become vegan cannot manage.

>> No.7465219

>>7465163
>science
>autism

Choose one.

>> No.7465222

>>7465219
>hurrr im a weak and scrawny and bitch that cant function without animals

>science

>> No.7465227

>>7465201
>gout, heart attacks, and colon cancer are somehow more dignified than b12 deficiency because they're what I'm used to
Seems to me you're not applying consistent standards here

>> No.7465231

>>7461473
A lot of them, yes.

Almost every McDonalds in the greater metro area here operates 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Gotta feed those late night and irregular shift workers (and the drunk crowd).

>> No.7465249

>>7465227
>gout, heart attacks, and colon cancer
Fortunately, I'm not aware of anyone in my extended family who have died or even suffered from any of these.
Though there have been breast/brain cancer, diabetes (type 1, not fat ass diabetes).
All of my aunts and uncles are still alive into their 60's at this point, except my uncle who was murdered in California when he was still in high school.
All of my grandparents and great grandparents died slowly of old age, same for their siblings, and most of them made it to their 80's and 90's, and a couple to 100.

I'm not aware of a single non-meat eater among the family, and we've had a lot of huge family reunions.

Some people just have weak genes.
I'd gladly sterilize the weak among humanity to cleanse the gene pool.

>> No.7465252

>>7465249
We didn't need to hear your life story, edgelord. Just the edge is sufficient for us to know you're 12.

>> No.7465253

>>7465222

>hurr im a weak and scrawny bitch

ftfy

>> No.7465266

>>7465200
>carnism
>autism

Maybe you missed the line immediately after my criticism of the average vegan.
Don't worry, poor reading comprehension just makes you average.

But you do realize you're in violation of global rule #2, yes?

>>>http://www.4chan.org/rules

>> No.7465269

>>7465266
Oh yes, your anecdotal baseless nonsense

How neurotypical

Oh that's, right, you're shitposting because you have autism!

In violation of global rule 3 and 6

>> No.7465271

>>7463311
My mom slow bleeds her sheep/chickens/turkeys. The chickens and turkeys she hangs like in the gifs but they usually don't struggle much unless someone is around (in eyesight).
The sheep don't struggle at all. They're used to her being around, and she sits them down, holds them close, slits their throat, then lets them get up and walk around until they bleed out. Takes like 15 minutes but they're perfectly calm (I've seen it).

She tried shooting them with an air gun but it scared the other sheep. This way they can see the sheep in the slaughter pen and talk back and forth to it until it dies so they don't really care.
Meat is good, too.

>> No.7465273

>>7465249
Ah yes. The "well no one I know has that!" Argument. Really solid.

>> No.7465276

>>7465273

How about most people who have ever lived?

>> No.7465278

>>7465252
Culling the weak genes used to be done by nature.
Now that the best among us have brought us to a technological point where that is no longer the case, doesn't mean we should stop the practice.

It's not edgy to consider the future of the world and to want to prevent suffering,
I'm pretty sure that's what veganism is about for a lot of people.

Modern methods of sterilization aren't painful.
Excessive reproduction among humans is bad for the environment.
Allowing people to create humans that will experience excessive suffering when it could easily be prevented without death or violence should be considered inherently wrong.
Aren't all of these in line with vegan ideology?

And I'm fairly certain most vegans have Darwin stickers on their bumpers.
They're fans of evolution.
Allowing the weak and genetically damaged to continue to contaminate the gene pool stagnates human evolution, and isn't that really a shame when we have the ability to control it and spur it onwards to greater heights?

Look at what we've done with horticulture (and animal husbandry, though vegans don't care for that) over the course of civilization?

>> No.7465280

>>7465278
How does it feel that no one will ever read that?

>> No.7465282

>>7465032
I've met absolutely no vegans/vegetarians who suggest this. Not one. I've even asked, "Why don't you convince people to do this instead? Wouldn't this help, especially considering people are more likely to do it?"
They just said that eating ANY meat is evil and that there's no compromise. Every single one (but then again that's only the ones I've met).

I already do this anyway, as do a lot of people I know. Two-three of my dinners a week are vegetarian. At least one is vegan (usually soup I've made or curry). And I almost never eat meat for lunch out of laziness.

>> No.7465286

>>7465269
>neurotypical

Don't you have a tumblog with 3 followers to run, 13 year old little girl?

>> No.7465287

>>7465286
You seem upset

>> No.7465293

>>7465253
Whatever describes you better

>> No.7465294

>>7465280
Thank you for my (You).

>> No.7465296

>>7465287
>Snarky comment
>Upset

Don't give yourself too much credit, now.

>> No.7465300

>>7465293

>ftfy
>y
>you

not me

>> No.7465305

>>7465296
Your comment is implying I'm underage because I disagree with you

There's a lot more prevalence of snark (unfunny) snark on your behalf

I was just telling you straight up what you were

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7465309

>>7460398

>> No.7465311

>>7465300
That means you were fixing it for me, you know in my description of you

>> No.7465316

>>7465305
No, my comment was implying you're a 13 year old girl running a tumblog because neurotypical is a word that 13 year old "feminists"/"SJWs" on tumblr use frequently.

>> No.7465317

>>7465278
>Allowing the weak and genetically damaged to continue to contaminate the gene pool

If you're too much of a pussy to capture, kill, and eat another living creature, that isn't a plant, then it's your genes that are weak, damaged, and should be removed from the gene pool.

>> No.7465321

>>7465311

Anonymous isn't a username, you weren't making that comment about me.

>> No.7465325

>>7465321
Then you were correcting my description of another person

It doesn't matter

>> No.7465332

>>7465325

>hurr im a weak and scrawny bitch

thats what i hear whenever i read your posts vegcuck

>> No.7465333

>>7465316
I can only seriously imagine you would know that if you even bother to peruse those parts

Regardless you're quite clearly upset.

>> No.7465335

>>7465286
Thank you for defending me anon, but don't worry.
I don't get bothered by name calling, especially when it has no grounds.

And >>7465269 is obviously trying very hard to sound like he knows what he's talking about.
>neurotypical
Normal cognitive function.
That's hurtful anon.
>shitposting
I think I made legitimate points, whether you agree with them or not, I was entirely serious.
>autism
I'll make sure to get a second opinion from my physician, but thank you for the ad hoc diagnosis on my condition.

>global rule 3
This doesn't apply to my posts, but it does seem to characterize yours fairly accurately.
>global rule 6
The same applies as above.

Maybe you should reread both of our posts and think about what you said for a moment.

>> No.7465337

>>7465332
No one cares, faggot.

>> No.7465340

>>7465337

funny that you have a vegetable brain to go with your vegetable diet

>> No.7465345

As an omnivore, the anti-vegan circlejerks far exceed the pro-vegan circlejerks. It's getting embarrassing at this point.

>> No.7465348

>>7465335
No, I'm not. I'm speaking in very casual terms

>That's hurtful anon

So you are upset

>I think I made legitimate points

Well that's why you're not neurotypical

>but thank you for the ad hoc diagnosis on my condition

Nice snark

>this doesn't apply to my posts

It does entirely, saying "no you!!!!" sure as hell doesn't help

>> No.7465351

>>7465340
Funny how you're a worthless faggot no matter what you eat, huh?

>> No.7465352

>>7465317
Maybe you're confused friend.
I'm a laissez faire omnivore.
I was stylizing an argument to appeal to purported vegan sentiments because the challenge to my thoughts (more of a mindless attack) seemed to come from a the VIDF.

I'd say that most vegans are probably just confused from an overly soft lifestyle growing up and not having parents that loved them enough to teach them what to value and why.

>>7465305
Not him, but who you were attacking previously, it's more likely because you're attacking people's arguments against without attempting to refute them or reinforce any vegan argument.
It's bound to make people assume you're a child who can't keep on point.

>> No.7465359

>>7465352
The argument is that something is dangerous because misuse it

Something that can be applied to literally anything

Then it's followed up with a ridiculous anecdote, both of which I responded to

It really isn't bound to make you think anything unless you have a dog in the argument like you clearly do

Clearly autism and carnism have a causation

Congrats, retard

>> No.7465362

>>7465333
It's not like the art community and SJW community have a (shitty) overlap or anything...

>> No.7465363

>>7465359
*because someone can misuse it

>> No.7465364

>>7465362
>art community

So you're admitting you're not only a carnist but a deadbeat carnist

lmao

>> No.7465365

>>7465364
Ironic how you keep calling others autistic, but you're the one raging autistically.

>> No.7465366

>>7465348
>nice snark
>So you are upset
Maybe you're not as good at detecting snark as you believe.

>It does entirely
>no you
I thought we went over your lack of reading comprehension previously?
When I say that, it's not meant as an insult.
But it is a analysis based on your poorly thought out responses.
I know you keep doing your best to exercise your vocabulary and I applaud that type of effort, but more is necessary when formulating a sound response.
Don't worry, it takes time.

I think we're getting a little too far off topic.

How about we stick to your defense of veganism as opposed to character attacks?

>> No.7465367

>>7465352
>laissez faire omnivore

Why not just say you enjoy cock in and around your mouth.

Literally the gayest thing I've ever heard. Your pussy father should've beaten you more.

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>>7465367

>> No.7465372

>>7465366
>I thought we went over your lack of reading comprehension previously

There's that snark again that's ever so present in the rest of your cringeworthy post. And the easy "no you!!!!" reflection

Typically when you just revert to that juvenile instinct, it's a sign of guilt

Trust me the tumblr community told me

>to exercise your vocabulary

I didn't realize that neurotypical was too big a word for you. I'll be sure to dumb myself to your barely functioning levels for the remainder of this conversation

durrrrrrrrrrrrrrr no you fuck you faggot, durrrr look how funny I am with my snark, durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>> No.7465374

>>7465367
Strong argument anon.
You've given me something to think long and deep on.
If you could share a pic of your physique, it would greatly assist my focus while doing so.

>> No.7465377

>>7465368
I wasn't trying to bait a response that you gave me anyway. I was just calling you a fag and your father a person who clearly wasn't a man.

>> No.7465380

>>7465372
Please refer to >>7465374.

>> No.7465382

>>7465377
>Is calling people autistic/retarded for eating meat but can't figure out that multiple people are replying to him.


Good job on the Freudian projection.

>> No.7465386

>>7465380
I'd rather not. Just seems like you're copping out of this by continuing to be upset

"You're mad" if my other sentence was on the comprehension difficulty of the word "neurotypical"

>> No.7465388

>>7465382
Lets not imply that his comprehension is anything less than perfect, especially not due to his lack of years. It's obviously not a prime indicator.

>> No.7465392

>>7460466
>I don't like mushrooms, shall I invent a silly name
Yes, how about... tasteless faggot?

>> No.7465395

>>7465382
I'm calling you autistic and retarded for various things. Carnism is just one of them but is on the bottom of reasons why. I mean just notice how none of you have even bothered defending any of your original arguments at this point

You also don't know what projection means, unsurprisingly.

>> No.7465396

>>7460941
Tyrektosaurus Rex [1]

>> No.7465399

>>7465388
>I'll call him underage! That'll show em how smart I can pretend to be!

>> No.7465401

>carnist autists find the word "Neurotypical" intimidating

LMAO

>> No.7465404

>>7461047
>Being vegan is turning your back to the status quo. Throughout history those rich enough to eat meat and dairy ate as much of each as they could afford.
Of course they did. They did so to survive.
How many vegan options do you think a person had to eat 200 years ago?

"Ooooh, I'll get some organic kinoa and broccoli in December, please!"... NO. You could get some wheat, potatoes, corn and dairy/butter in order to live a normal non-sick life. And since there were little food options during the winter, meat was always an option.

>> No.7465405

>>7465386
You've found me out.
I am clearly 'mad'.
Your use of 'neurotypical' had me pegged and there was no getting away from it.
Everything beyond that was just my inability to control my seething rage or refute you in a firm and convincing manner, mostly because you were so very right.
This is all been a progression toward a grand 'cop out'.

Please continue to ram your point home as I lay here moaning in despair at the depth and substance of your argument.

Also: Please include pic of physique?

>> No.7465408

>>7465405
Your overly sarcastic aka passive aggressive tone clearly is indicative of your anger

There's really no getting around it. I really don't care if you are, I just find it funny that you care about it enough to kick up such a fuss about it.

You can't expect anyone with an intellect above your own to not realize this.

>> No.7465416

>>7465408
I have been trounced by an intellect far exceeding my own.
I freely admit to this.

I am as humbled as any 'neurotypical carnist' can be.

>> No.7465419

>>7462172
I'm an atheist and I have zero issues with attending Christmas parties.

>> No.7465423

>>7465416
Clearly.

>> No.7465424

>>7465395
No, you're projecting your own faults on to others.

See:
>Can't figure out that multiple people are replying you
>Thinks that blatant shitposting is people being mad.


>>7465401
Nobody found it intimidating

>> No.7465428

>>7463277
How fucking stupid and dangerous.
I kill and eat my meat... and I like eating it, but I don't enjoy killing because it's hard, messy and dangerous. Much like tending to crops.

This guy is enjoying this... sick bastard.

>> No.7465431

>>7465332

This.

>> No.7465433

>>7465424
>no you!

Poetic

>Nobody found it intimidating

The befuddlement that such vocabulary was used and the ire over it, clearly indicates otherwise

>> No.7465437

>>7465431
No one cared when you posted it initially, nobody cares now

>> No.7465443

>>7465352
>I'd say that most vegans are probably just confused from an overly soft lifestyle growing up and not having parents that loved them enough to teach them what to value and why.

That's reasonable, anon.

However, I would argue that those that pursue a vegan diet, outside of medical necessity, are indeed weak, and should be culled from the gene pool.

>> No.7465444

>>7465433
>Blatant shitposts such as "go back to tumblr" and sarcastic "dats meen"
>"befuddled"

Also: Pedantry is a sign of autism.

>> No.7465445

>>7465423
Clarity without equal.

>> No.7465446

>>7465443
>its reasonable because I have autism

Thats not reasonable

>> No.7465450

>>7465444
>I was only pretending to be upset!!!!
>I was only pretending to use the term "exercise in vocabulary!!!!"
>No you're autistic!!!!!!!!

Great post. Anything else?

>> No.7465452

>>7465437
I'm not that anon, anon.

>> No.7465454

>>7465446
Thank you for clarifying 'reason' for us mere mortals.

>> No.7465455

>>7465445
Please leave me alone. Your anger is scaring me.

>> No.7465459

>>7465454
>mortals

The term you're looking for is "non-neurotypicals"

Don't be frightened by it

>> No.7465460

>>7465455
An intellect as mighty as yours could never truly fear something as lowly as myself.
You would see your way through it, much like Robert Downey Jr. as Sherlock Holmes.
My trouncing would go down in infamy were I significant enough for another human being to take notice.

>> No.7465462

>>7465460
I'll be sure to tell your handler to not use the word "neurotypical" around you again.

>> No.7465466

>>7465459
Everything you say terrifies me deeply.
The constraints of my own limited perception are so limited to your own that I think to end my paltry life out of despair.
Despair, my one defining trait, and even that I fall short of greatness.

>> No.7465468

So what do we do with all the cattle, sheep, goats, chickens, and every other critter we farm for meat when we decide to go vegan?

Do we just kill them all?

We can't let them eat all the veggies we grow to feed humans, and a lot of the grazing land they use would be needed to grow crops.

So what do we do?

>> No.7465469

>>7465468
You don't harvest them for meat, dummy

>> No.7465481

>>7462172
Dropped when he took the kike harpy seriously.

>> No.7465487

>>7465468
Obviously this >>7465469.
We also must take care of them and seek until their last day to give them the best we are able in all things.
They deserve all the comforts of your average hipster vegan and we can easily provide this by enslaving all current vegans and putting them to work in The Great Temples of Veganism, that they will erect as a pleasure palace to the poor oppressed beasts that we had subjugated with our evil desire for flesh.

To make sure they have an outlet for their sexual desire without reproducing needlessly those who have offered themselves up to The Great Temples will also offer up their bodies to satisfy their oppressed urges.
It's the least we can do for our brethren.

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7465497

>>7461338

>> No.7465531

>>7465497
>1 animal a day
What a load of bullshit.

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>>7465497

>> No.7465558

>>7464894
It's not the killing, it's the treatment while they are alive.

How does it negatively impact an animal to kill it painlessly and instantly? The only way is if they can somehow anticipate the death, and it causes them existential suffering. Most animals are not capable of that. There may be some that are (dolphin, octopus, primates, etc.).

In fact, it may REDUCE the amount of suffering of an animal if they are raised for eating and killed instantly/painlessly. It is conceivable that you could raise a little piggy and give it an awesome life, something much better than it would be likely to get in the wild. And then you could kill it with a bullet or something else that does the job instantly. That's a death with much less suffering than it would be likely to get in the wild.

It's so odd that veggies focus on the killing rather than the living (often times at least).

>> No.7465564

>>7465497
>1100 gallons of water
A lot of veggies actually take MORE water to produce. Chicken and eggs are some of the lowest water use foods.

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>>7465531
You have to kill it to eat it... Unless it's cheese or milk which is disgusting because the calf is taken from the mother cow immediately.

>chemical induced lactating state
>Udder puss and blood
>Bovine mammary excretions

Being treated like an infant who dosen't even drink human milk but drinks animal milk which leads to an enormous number of health problems.... Priceless.

The organic vegan farmers are far above and well beyond the fucking idiots behing that nasty shit you call milk and buy from Walmart.

Fucking nasty faggots can't even learn to be vegan. At least adopt an organic diet and study the history behind banking and slavery.

>> No.7465670

>>7461925
old people don't fart tho

>> No.7465743

>>7465468
Even if the vegantarded dream of an all-vegan human society were to come true (It won't.) we'd still keep harvesting factory farming animals for meat.

The majority of pets that humans keep are obligate carnivores, and they still need food.


Of course, vegans, being terminally braindead, don't factor them in when foaming-at-the-mouth about their implausible dream society.

>> No.7465755

>>7465743

Another issue is where are we going to get the fertilizer needed to feed the soil of all the veggie shit we grow?

As far as I know, most of the ferts we use come from livestock animals, and if we eliminate them, than we eliminate our source of fertilizer.

>> No.7465916

>>7465755
That too.

There's also the pseudo-morality of it all.

>I'm vegan because meat production is "environmentally taxing" but I'll still buy faux-leather (Usually plastics-based) products made with oil.

>> No.7465989

>>7460868
That MMA fighter they were talking about is Nick Diaz, and he's not a vegan

>> No.7466936

>>7460398
Because they're judgmental evangelical. Replace "vegan" with "evangelical christian" and they'd be just as obnoxious.

>> No.7467097

>>7463274
They are all wearing panties and tube tops, anon.

>> No.7467129

>>7465665
And when you eat a carrot you eat something thats been covered in worms, dirt, bugs, and shit.
Whats your point?

>> No.7467149

>>7465755
vegans will never acknowledge this fact

ever