/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6932605

Sorry but I think you're looking for >>>/LGBT/

I was asking for recipies, how would my post belong in LGBT?

>>6932605
>>6932619
Because you need to be stupid or gay to be vegan.
I mean, vegetarian I can kinda understand but you have to be severly retarded to be vegan

Lol. I care about animals, so i must be retarted or stupid? What kind of school did you attend, because that logic doesn't make any sense. XD

>name is a racist slur

Why do vegans hate humans?

I never said that I hated humans..?

I personally try to be friendly all the time. ^_^

>>6932634

You have to be a special kind of dumb to be vegan.

Other organisms must die in order for you to live. This is a fact. Just because you eat quinoa and broccoli and fucking kale does not take you out of this, and does not make you more "ethical".

Ofc any sane person does not agree with the treatment of factory farmed animals, and I choose to avoid those products. This does not mean I avoid high quality animal proteins. (Raw oysters are a personal staple0. Humans have been eating animal products far longer than agriculture has been around to support your fad diet. Try and find 3 examples of long term (40+ years) vegans who look healthy. What about a POPULATION of vegans who have had healthy children who went on to live healthy lives. Show me that and then I will stop eating animals, until then, you are running a new age experiment on your body. Stop acting like it is the ethical thing everyone should also be doing.

Boo fucking hoo it has a face, enjoy your teeth demineralizing and general nutritional deficiencies

You guys really suck at trolling and getting trolled.

>>6932773

Buddhists have been doing it for a while now, so...huge parts of Asia is my source.

7th day adventist (despite being niggers) are also vegans abs abstain from addictive substances. Used to live literally next door to one of those curches. All "farming equipment" sized people there for the most part, all their children were normal and healthy...just brainwashed.

i dislike low quality baits, but heres a reply anyways

>>6932785

You do realize that the vast majority of Buddhist monks are only in that lifestyle for a short period of time, right? They spend some time at the temple and then go back to their normal life (e.g. eating meat). The people you are talking about are temporarily vegan, it is not a self-sustaining population.

It's also a fallacy to say that Buddhists don't eat meat. It's a bit more complex than that. It is true that a Buddhist monk cannot accept meat if the animal was slaughtered specifically for the monk. However, they can and do eat meat so long as the intent of the slaughter was not to feed the monk.

Source: having lived in Thailand for two decades.

>>6932854

>lived in thailand

I don't need advice or to even speak to a child rapist.

Buddhists don't eat meat, it's not complex at all, neither do 7th day adventists... it's a religious LAW they adhere to.

Just because you're depraved and violate whatever rule/law people tell you to follow, doesn't mean others don't.

inb4- le religion maymay

>>6932866

You seem to be misunderstanding the "law".

The law does not say that they can't eat meat. It says that they can't kill. You seem to be missing that distinction, probably because you don't know very much about Buddhism and are just parroting what you read on some vegan blog.

http://www.urbandharma.org/udharma3/meat.html

>>6932882

I'm not vegan why would I go to their blogs. Buddhists don't kill, so butcheries wouldn't even exists to provide said "loophole" meat to them.

They don't eat it, neither do Jebus praising nigs in the 7th adventist movement.

>>6932866
Exhibit A: the wilfully ignorant vegan, everyone.

>>6932605
PLANT LIFE MATTERS

>>6932882
>>6932895

Explain 7th day adventists.

Thanks.

>>6932901
We're talking about Buddhists, don't try to change the subject.
Also, not samefag. this
>>6932895
is my only post and I still hold that it's true.

Jesus christ just stop falling for OP's gay bait

>>6932894
>I'm not vegan why would I go to their blogs

Had you read the page you would have found that it was not supporting veganism. Rather it was the opposite: it cites words from Buddha himself explaining when it is OK to consume meat, as well as examples of Buddhist scripture in which enlightened Buddhists did eat meat.

>>Buddhists don't kill
Sure. But it's possible for a non-buddhist to do the killing just as long as it was not for the explicit purpose of providing meat to the Buddhist.

Your willful ignorance is astounding.

>>6932909
>>6932901
after briefly reading up on 7th adventist movement, which i knew nothing about before, I found:

Since the 1860s when the church began, wholeness and health have been an emphasis of the Adventist church.[32] Adventists are known for presenting a "health message" that recommends vegetarianism and expects adherence to the kosher laws in Leviticus 11.

An estimated 35% of Adventists practice vegetarianism or veganism, according to a 2002 worldwide survey of local church leaders.

So 35% of this church is vegetarian, and an unknown number of that 35% is vegan. Doesn't seem very convincing.

My main problem with with veganism is that it turns you into a weakling tbh

>>6932918

>non-buddhidt
>east asia
>my ignorance

uh huh....

>muh shintoism

Yea, they don't harm living things either.

>>6932919

So basically they're supposed to, but don't.

Niggers gonna nig.

>>6932895
Exhibit B: The self-righteous idiot who falls for the troll, but still keeps talking because they want to soapbox

>>6932996
>>muh shintoism
>Yea, they don't harm living things either.

Lol. Shinto practitioners do indeed eat animal products. See pic related? It's a special knife called a gishiki. It's used for filleting fish for Shinto ceremonies.

>>6933024
And here it is being used!

>>6933024

No, they don't...at all.

Japan is an atheistic society, thought you weebs knew everything down to how one wipes your arse with chipsticks.

That's fine. A Nation consistently captured by China, radioactive for nearly a century and breeds people like Hiroyuki so weak that their own boards of directors kick them out of their own businesses, it's safe to say defending anything they do is futile.

Also their birthrate, and the fact 33% of Japan will be dead within 25 years. Man...shintoism sure did them a lot of good.

>muh special knife

Ceramics made by Kyocera are far more advanced than stone sharpened samurai weapons. Protip: samurai were slaves.

>>6933028

That's a hibachi grill in America, not a shintoism parlor, or practice.

Keep trying weeb.

>>6933040
>>6933037
2.5/10

>>6933064

>implying 100% of everything said in both of those posts isn't true.

There's a fast today

>>6933040
>gishiki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUsdjHcUpcI

>>6935125
who is that indian homo

why should I care

I'm going to eat double meat today. Hell, I might buy some and throw it away

>>6933086

Well, the first post is clearly bullshit because there's no grill. No grill means no Hibachi. It's also irrelevant if the photo was taken in America. The point is that Shinto practitioners clearly have no problem killing fish, therefore the idea that shintoists are vegan is absurd.

The 2nd post, while true, has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand. Nobody claimed that most Japanese are Shinto or that Shinto "did them any good". The topic at hand is whether or not Shinto practitioners are Vegans, and a visit to any festival at a Shinto shrine will disprove that readily. Octopus balls and chicken-on-a-stick everywhere.

>>6932785
If you're born in a vegan community you won't suffer any malnutrition it only takes one or two generations to iron out the kinks and formulate a balanced diet. People who turn vegan have no idea how to feed themselves and look sickly. If the vegan trend continues and gathers momentum a generation or so later you'll have healthy and fit vegans who don't need to supplement their diet or even pay much heed to it.

If you're going vegan for health reasons, hey good for you hope it works for you.

Now on the other hand, if you're doing it for some kind of moral high ground, picking foods that doesn't use meat other animal-based products is the easy part, but if you're not cutting everything else made using animals out of your life you're just a hypocrite.

>>6932625
This tbh. Milking a cow doesn't hurt it, retard.

>>6932605
Reminder that this is the same vegan shitposter from the past.

>>6935125
There's a fast every Friday.
Wednesdays too.

>this thread again

>>6936059
>>6936059
There's a difference between intentionally and unintentionally hurting and killing others. All of those products can be made vegan anyways.

Vegans tread lightly and cause the absolute minimal amount of unintentional damage to this planet and its inhabitants. Meat, dairy and egg-eaters cause the MAXIMUM amount of intentional and unintentional damage to this planet and its inhabitants because it is unreasonable to intentionally starve millions of humans to death by feeding around 50 percent of the world's crops to 60 billion land animals, to murder 60 billion land animals and 90 billion marine animals with premeditation, and then accidentally kill wild animals with tractors. With veganism, we could eliminate two problems instead of living with three!

>>6936194
Saving animals don't help our water supply, it hurts it.

>>6936198
No. More animals are forced to exist than naturally occur because of supply and demand. The water is used up on those animals

>>6936198

>>6936194
inb4 that guy who says a mouse died harvesting grain used for bread therefore eating grain-eating animals somehow kills less animals than eating the grain itself

>>6936194
>There's a difference between intentionally and unintentionally hurting and killing others.

I think that was the same excuse the Nazis used.

You know the kind of person does the very least amount of damage to the planet? People that live off the grid. They eat meat. Their impact is virtually invisible because they become a part of nature.

>>6936788
No. They were intentionally.
People that live off the grid growing their own food do the best I'd say.

>>6936820
>They were intentionally.

What do you think, "Befehl ist befehl ." Means?

>>6936740
"agriculture"
what else would you use 70% of your water on?

I like waterparks as much as the next guy but growing food is far more important

PS your heads of broccoli and lettuce cost a shitload of water also even without the 90% yeild loss from feeding cows very drought resistant crops like corn and sorghum

>>6936788

>muh Nazi meme

Lenin was a Jew, and killed tens of million of people in the Holodomor.

Mao killed millions of people as well...

Le ebin Nazi maymay strikes again.

>>6936846
It was a joke. Sad that I had to explain that.

>>6936856

right...right....

>>6936860

I wouldn't have bothered following up with a serious response if it was just a trolling post.

>>6936919

So you agree the National Socialist Party was one of the best things to ever happen to humanity?

Good, glad to see you have some common sense.

>>6936936

Naw, I'm into benevolent dictatorships. A nation led by someone with the means and will to care for his nation and people.

>>6936950

>dictator
>care for his people

pick one.

>>6936955

I suppose you don't know what the word "benevolent" means then.

>>6936835
Water for everybody.
Speaking of water, according to the Environmental Protection Agency the runoff from factory farms pollutes our rivers and lakes more than all other industries combined. In the U.S. alone, animals raised for food produce 130 times more excrement than the entire human population, 86,000 pounds per second. A typical pig factory farm generates as much raw waste as a city of 50,000 people. Chicken, pig, and cow excrement have polluted over 35,000 miles of rivers in at least 22 states and contaminated groundwater in at least 17 states.

What's more, chicken, pig, turkey and cow excrement comprise the sole source of all the recent E. Coli, salmonella and listeria outbreaks in which spinach, tomatoes, peanuts, jalapeño peppers, cantaloupe and other plant products have been implicated. E. Coli, salmonella and listeria have only one source: SHIT (human or animal)! Since spinach, peanuts, jalapeños, cantaloupe and tomatoes don't shit, spinach, peanuts, jalapeños, cantaloupe and tomatoes cannot be blamed for this problem. E. Coli, salmonella and listeria found their way to the plants because people who enslave animals for meat, dairy or eggs contaminate the waterways by dumping nearly 2.7 trillion pounds of manure into America's lakes, rivers and streams annually. Contaminated water eventually ends up on some of the crops as run-off, passing E. Coli, salmonella and listeria to the consumer. Also, more frighteningly, there are many times when farmers literally spray tons of RAW animal shit directly on the crops. Make no mistake: ALL E. Coli, salmonella and listeria incidents occur because of animal agriculture. Meat, dairy and egg-eaters want to eat billions of land animals. So ConAgra, Smithfield, Tyson, Perdue, etc. MASS PRODUCE billions of land animals far in excess of the numbers that would occur if these animals were left to their own reproductive devices and inclinations. Billions of land animals produce trillions of pounds of excrement.

more than 70% of all beef and chicken in the United States, Canada and other countries is being treated with poisonous carbon monoxide gas. It can make seriously decayed meat look fresh for weeks.

>>6937012

I do, the term you used is an oxymoron.

Stockholm Syndrome=/= kindness

>>6932773
>>6932854
>>6932882
>>6932895
>>6932918

You realize that the majority of people in the world eat meat only a handful of times in a year and otherwise have a vegan or vegetarian diet. This is true historically as well. I would be shocked if anfter Adjusting for the use of multivitamins in developed countries there's much of a difference in malnutrition rates.

>>6938367
You can't really talk reason into a carnist, they legitimately feel that if they can't have a BK Happy Meal™ for dinner they will die, because their mommies gave in every time they threw a tantrum growing up, thus reinforcing the sense of impending doom from not Having It Your Way.

And when I say feel I do mean feel. Carnists don't really think, in the standard sense of the word.

>>6938385
Holy fuck you guys are taking trolling and ego stroking to the next level.

Your so far up your own asses you're chewing on your necks.

Your strawman game is so shit. You're talking about the poor and the ignorant and saying everyone is like them.

It's like you've never heard of sustainable ethical farming or had friends that raise animals. Like you've never really visited one in your life.

Ever heard of a thing called hunting? Areas of Wisconsin have such terrible overpopulation issues with white tail deer that you're doing everyone a favor by snagging two to fill your freezer for a year. Same with bear in certain areas in the north west. Moose have overpopulation issues in certain areas as well and by paying for a hinting license you give the park the money it needs to keep open.

Factory farms were never the only option. Not everyone who consumes meat is anything like what you say. Great job jacking each other off while trying to guilt and shame your audience with poor, emotionally driven information. You'll really convince people that way.

Bomb /ck/. The SJW's have invaded us for far too long.

>>6938229
Carbon monoxide isn't really poisonous.

>>6938437
This. I'm inhaling it right now (not being sarcastic) because it's everywhere and in small numbers. Also, doesn't it suffocate bacteria?

>>6938421
Hunting is fine. If everyone in the US got their food from hunting, or even Salatin-style meat farming operations, it would be impossible for meat consumption to remain at the level that it's at today because we wouldn't have oceans of surplus trashmeat to dump on the unsuspecting poor, who clamor for it as though it was necessary for life.

Abolish factory farming and you have effectively abolished carnism.

We're on the same page here. Poor and ignorant people, factory farming, and carnism are the problems. I look at decent, healthy, responsibly sourced meat and tipping the service staff in the same way. If you can't afford it, there are better alternatives than pink slime, or shirking that 20%, respectively.

>>6932605

>>6938421
>>6938478
The Deer Range Improvement Program (DRIP) is still in existence. And every state has a program like DRIP. It might not be called DRIP but there is a DRIP-like program all over the US.
If we didn't have sex-biased hunting, there would be an even ratio of male deer to female deer. So, if someone took a sample group of 10 deer—anywhere—there would be five males and five females. The five males would impregnate the five females who would then give birth to five offspring. However, after decades of killing big bucks for their large racks, we now have ratios of 7-to-3, 8-to-2, or 9-to-1 FEMALE to male. Let's take the 7-to-3 ratio. We now have three males impregnating seven females (we know males can impregnate as many females as they come in contact with). Then seven females give birth to seven offspring which means there are a minimum of two EXTRA babies per sample group of 10 deer because of sex-bias hunting.

>>6938421
>>6938478
Let's go further. Wildlife biologists have confirmed that when deer, and other animals, including humans during war times, feel their population is being decimated, as is the case after hunting season ends, the majority of all the females give birth to twins or triplets. So, let's take the twin scenario. Seven females are now giving birth to 14 babies instead of the original five (if our society didn't hunt) thereby having 9 EXTRA babies per sample group of 10 deer. When you multiply the extra babies over the entire Michigan herd, you have an "extra" 500,000 to 700,000 deer every year. And guess how many hunting licenses they issue every year? You guessed it, between 500,000 and 700,000. Plus, that's how the Michigan herd grew from 500,000 in the 70s to nearly 2 million nowadays. This scenario works in every state with the numbers only varying slightly. The only excuse to kill and eat animals would be a pure survival scenario. But this scenario is rare. Inuit living in an icy environment comes to mind (which is why I've never traveled to Alaska to lecture). I'll never understand why people who reside in NON-ICY or NON-DESERT settings hunt, kill and eat the flesh of animals. Habit, tradition, convenience or taste are invalid, barbaric reasons to harm animals. MURDERING and COMMODIFYING animals are crimes.

>>6938421
>>6938478
Murder is murder whether victims stand upright, walk on all fours, have fur, feathers, horns, beaks or gills. Self-defense or vicarious self-defense (defending others who cannot defend themselves) are the only justifications for murder. Commodification is when humans turn animals into inanimate objects and can't see them for anything else. Cows have been turned into shoes, briefcases and hamburgers. Chickens have been turned into buckets of wings. Deer have been transformed into unwilling participants of a bloodthirsty sport, severed-head wall-trophies and venison burgers. When humans are treated the way hunters treat animals, people scream Holocaust, genocide, massacre and bloody murder. Yet, according to the hunters' mind-set, animals are "game" who deserve to be killed. This "game" is void of rational thought, decency and kindness. It is, quite frankly, sociopath behavior. I've watched hunting/fishing shows on ESPN for more than 25 years.
I have to wait for the blood-shows to end weekend mornings before GENUINE sports shows air. I hear excitement in the hunters' voices before they pull the trigger or shoot the arrow. No need to fabricate the true reasons for deer-hunting, or any other animal-killing moment. Hunting and fishing are bloodsports, plain and simple. Additionally, hunters aren't exonerated from the killing because they do the killing themselves. It's makes them directly responsible instead of the accomplice meat-eater who pays someone else to commit the crimes. The latter is still unequivocally wrong and evil, but killing and harming directly shows more psychotic behavior than someone who cannot harm and kill directly.

>>6938528
Dogs are filthy. loud, needy, obnoxious creatures who deserve the same fate as pigs.

>>6938229
>trying to fearmonger with chemistry you don't even fucking understand

Next thing you're gonna tell me they put dangerous Dihydrogen Monoxide in their food.

I don't have anything against vegans, but some of you are so fucking dense and delusional.

>>6938559
but doggies are nice and cute

>>6938478
You don't get it. Carnism isn't a thing. You're not making a point on 4chan. People eat emotionally. People eat what's marketed to them since it's the first thing that pops into their heads when they're hungry. Companies are powered by momentum. If money can be made somewhere they'll fall into the fallacy of sunk cost and continue to cut corners to spend as little as possible in production so that they may maximize profit. That's how almost all American manufacturing works, including meat and produce.

You have such a huge uphill battle against corporations that only care about their and their stockholders profit. You won't make a single difference with your insulting posts and shaming tactics here.

You alienate your target audience, the ones you want to convince, by posturing and holding yourself as better than them.

Basically, your logic is all fucked.

>>6938528
>that dog
>"Oh shit, this bitch is petting me, and then I'm totally going to chew up that fat hunk of shit she's killing. What a great day"

>>6938421
>>6938478

Do hunters eat their kills? Yes. But do hunters hunt for food? No! They hunt for the thrill of the kill. They receive a rush. A super-shot of adrenaline. It's bloodlust and dominance. It's arrogance and selfishness. It's hatred and brutality. It's dishonor and viciousness. It's murder and it's obscene.

Hunters always use the excuse that deer are going to starve to death during the winter as if starvation wasn't a natural process and nature's way of controlling populations and the ecosystem's way of working.

Starving deer provides food for scavenger animals and is nature's way of weeding out sickly animals and allowing the strongest ones to reproduce.

A bullet to the head or an arrow through the chest is not a solution to starvation. Furthermore, hunters don't even shoot starving deer. They don't make good trophies and don't have lots of meat.

I dare anyone to show me a photograph of one hunter last year who shot one emaciated deer. Just one. Hunters shoot big bucks with big racks for big trophies. Watch their TV shows on PBS and ESPN and TNN. That's all they talk about—big racks and big trophies.

>>6938565
>You won't make a single difference
People actually come to 4chan to "make a difference"? That's disturbing.

>>6938548
Now you're literally talking crazy.

This has nothing to do with the real world or how it works. Ethics only matters when you can influence the way things are done. Your logic would also get torn apart in any college ethics, speech, or debate class.

I'm sorry you put so much emotion into it without bothering to think about how the forces you "fight" against actually work.

>>6938367
>You realize that the majority of people in the world eat meat only a handful of times in a year and otherwise have a vegan or vegetarian die
I can agree with the vegetarian. But I'm pretty sure those who don't or can't eat meat for economical or availability reasons consume eggs, milk and/or honey regularly.
I'm pretty sure in most

>>6938571
You know nothing of hunters.

You just want a stump to stand on.

Ethical hunters are the norm. They hate poachers and they hate making animals suffer, which is why they practice so much in shooting ranges to get clean shots.

There are some who ruin it for everyone. Just like you ruin veganism for all who come in contact with your opinions.

>>6938579
You're just name calling and assuming.

>>6938588
In 1990, Nugent said the following in his World Bowhunters Magazine: "Nobody hunts just to put meat on the table because it's too expensive, time-consuming and extremely inconsistent."
That's true.

>>6938575
Ethics only matter when you can use them to convince others to take action. Or take your own action.

Have you ever taken a college level ethics class?

Ever even read an ethics book?

You can't claim to use ethical logic of you don't even understand its purpose.

Holy dick I'm out.

Keep your masturbatory troll thread where you can pretend to be better than other people just because you hold them in contempt.

>>6938599
Only because you want it to be.

Go on /out/ and look at the hunting thread. Actually talk to hunters.

Also you're saying my own reason for hunting is not real. I'm right here, proving your strange, backwards logic wrong.

>>6938437
>>6938444
>>6938562
undereducated muricans don't know the difference between dioxides and monoxides
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_monoxide

>>6938602
>>6938579

In case your professor gave you the wrong idea, that argument you "won" in your "college ethics" class (which community college?) didn't matter either.

But it mattered slightly more than anything happening on this board, in the sense that you probably received credit towards graduation.

>You can't claim to use ethical logic of you don't even understand its purpose.

I never claimed to use "ethical logic", I only said some things which made you feel defensive. Which, of course, stems from my obvious moral superiority to you.

>>6938609
Well, I think you're killing unnecessarily and wasting your time and money when there are better options.

>>6938648
You think a lot of things that are bizarre and offensive would be my guess.

>>6938599
Depends how you look at it. I hunt because I absolutely love being out in the woods, I love the whole process, and I love game meat. I could just go to the grocery store and buy meat, but if I get an elk or moose draw and successfully harvest one, I have hundreds of pounds of god tier meat.

If you don't really enjoy hunting, there probably isn't any point in doing it. If you do enjoy it, its absolutely worth it. I just view a hunting trip as a vacation with an awesome pay out.

Holy fuck, meat eaters, please stop. It's embarrassing. Who gives a shit if these twig people want to share recipes and not eat animals?

I swear to god, some of you are just as obnoxious as the classic college activist vegan fag.

>2015
>being so delusional as to think other people give a modicum of a fuck about what you eat

The animal product industries want $$$. Vegans just want to save the animals and keep the planet clean. Which one seems trustworthy and more likely to be honest?

>>6938764
shit tier trolling.

I'm not a sales person.
I've got no books to sell you. No DVDs.
No collection plate going around.
I don't want your money. I don't want your e-mail addresses, and I don't want your mailing addresses. Keep all that stuff. Really just here's some free information to think about. I use to eat animal products too then I thought about it, read some books, watched some movies, and learned. To embrace veganism people have to learn about it.

There is no such thing as happy and humane murder or slaughter just as there is no such thing as happy and human rape, happy and humane slavery, or happy and humane child molestation. From the animals' point of view, anyone who commodifies their bodies is equally vicious.

>>6938332
I suppose you don't know what an oxymoron is either. But that doesn't surprise me, you are retarded after all.

>>6932605
I came into this threat expecting vegan recipes as requested by OP, instead I see autism. Can someone actually post the recipes, I'm genuinely curious.

>>6940246
check out the recipes on
http://veganstreet.com/recipes.html

This can help with your vegan cooking

Im vegan but i give no fucks for animals, i just prefer the food, dont like the taste of meat, milk, eggs, cheese i like but found a replacement so went all out, op what food do you usually eat?

>>6932605
I'm trying to experiment with veganism a little at a time for health reasons only. Still eating chicken and dairy sometimes though.

>>6940258

Yeah, I wouldn't use a banana or apple sauce where I would use an egg in any recipe. That's substituting baking powder with corn starch and tartar sauce tier.

How about coming up with something good?

I seriously hope none of you take medication//medical treatment.

Poor test animals and ingredients such as gelatin ;_;

>>6940658

Not to mention the horseshoe crab blood farming to test IV drugs and medical equipment for bacteria.

But seriously fuck off with all of this shit, /ck/ isn't the place to talk about vegan morality.

>>6940654
Banana and applesauce make more sense than chicken menstruation that can kill with salmonella if somebody licks the spoon after mixing up the muffins or whatever

>>6940671
Here is your reply. Happy?

yayyy vegan reppin. not eating carcasses, cow lactation, and chicken periods is the bomb.

This guy does a great job of explaining the reasoning behind going vegan. Anyone with a open mind should watch it

>>6941048

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4HJcq8qHAY

>>6932605

I dont have any beef with vegans, the girl im dating right now is vegan. however, she doesn't proselytize and vomit superiority and emotional thinking like you fuckwits do, thank god.

>>6932605

it's not either of those things, i was a meat eater once upon a time. i just wish people opened their minds and weren't so defensive about it.

>>6942043
How to get your kids to hate vegetables for the first 30 years of their life: boil, steam, or microwave them.

>>6942070
Haha. Some kids like, some won't. Just eat raw then.

i've been trying the whole vegan thing for a few months and last night i ate white cake, coconut cream pie and a butter biscuit and i feel really sick. i think i'm lactose intolerant.

>>6932642
2/10 bait. Filtered.

>>6942043
>How to cook veggies: Don't.
From your neighborhood raw vegan. Cooked food is bad for you, mmkay.

"For I tell you truly, live only by the fire of life, and prepare not your foods with the fire of death, which kills your foods, your bodies and your souls also." Jesus the Christ, Essene gospel Book 1

>>6942136
That's common. I hav the same experience. I cut out most animal products and then I went back and ate some eggs in a pumpkin tart and found that the eggs was the most repellent part of the whole thing. I just ate the cookie crust and threw the filling away.

>>6940658
the idea for me as a vegan is only to reduce suffering

>>6942263
false flag
>>6940589
has anybody here ever made oat milk? how is it? also what fresh vegetables can i incorporate that are super cheap? anything i can buy in bulk like my oats and barley flakes (porridge in the morning). i love broccoli and asperigus and avocados but they are so expensive for me to eat everyday

>>6938571
>implying there's absolutely anything wrong with that as long as you make use of the corpse
>implying killing animals is murder

>>6942043
>no baking option
Vegans don't know how to cook.

I breed my own cute cuddly widdle wabbits.

Once they've grown to a sufficient size, I grab them by the hind quarters, and once they're calm, whack them in the back of the head with a nice thick stick. They have a sort of spasm and curl up, but immediately loose consciousness. Nose starts bleeding 9/10 times. Then I hang them upside-down from a cross-like wooden structure, and slice their heads off, which falls into the bucket. The blood is let to drain, and sometimes I collect it to use in a dish.

By squeezing the thighs against the legs and making downward force against the skin, it makes a clear tear around the knees. Doing this to all legs gives me a perfect, complete hide, which I save.

The belly is opened with a long shallow incision, taking care not to cut into any internal organs, especially the bladder and such. The liver and kidneys, which are both edible delicacies, are removed and stored separately. Everything else simply gets yanked out. Rabbit hearts keep beating well after a rabbit dies, did you know? I also stick a finger through the anus from inside the thorax, outwards, to get the last of the rectum and any hidden pieces of feces out.

Cut off the feet since they're useless, and you're done.

I prefer my bunnies roasted with plenty of subtle-flavored herbs. The livers and kidneys are cooked in a hot skillet with butter, with some cream, white wine and parsley added at the end.

I make small things like blankets out of the fur.

Come at me, vegan bro.

>>6943247
>...but immediately loose consciousness...
*lose

>>6943247
the idea for me as a vegan is only to reduce suffering, i don't deny that we were built evolutionary to eat meat as others would argue. i just want to say that we are capable of great things as a species and are able (if we choose) to be above any unnecessary suffering. As a human being i think that we should be prideful in being above violence. In the future they will look back and think how barbaric it must have been that we all believe that we must steal from each other in the form of "taxes" and how we decide to treat all of our neighbors on this tiny spec of dust we all float on.

>>6943165
>false flag
Nope. Watch Food matters.

>>6943295
>Steal from each other in the form of taxes

Vacate this plane of existence.

>>6943750
its sad that it takes an incredible amount of originality to think about other ways of living besides stealing from each other

>>6938544
>Wildlife biologists have confirmed

Where's your fucking source.

>>6938610

>toxic
>when breathed
>fucking nothing happens when eating it

>>6943859

And?

>>6943845
According to a peer-reviewed scientific study by Richter & Labisky hunted herds produce twins/triplets at the rate of 38%, while in non-hunted herds that number drops to only 14% That study was done in Florida,but that the number is higher in other areas of the country. Hunting has become big business. Deer are not hunted to reduce populations, they are hunted to increase and keep populations high to satisfy hunters.
After so many years of hunting, hasn't it occurred to anyone why deer populations haven't decreased (except in the immediate aftermath of a hunting season)?

>>6944212
CO is only bad for you if inhaled. It's like eating cave gases.

>>6945332
This, CO displaces oxygen if you inhale it. (it binds much stronger with the iron in your blood)
But nothing happens if you eat it and there's way too little CO in the meat even if you were to decide it to inhale the whole steak raw (which is impossible)

It's probably only dangerous for the people in the factory.

Some countries have it banned but I think it's because they see treating meat with CO as false advertising, the meat looks fresher while it doesn't have to be fresh at all.
Not because it's dangerous for consumers.

>>6936090
nice bait, but raping cows, milking them till their udders get infect, separating them from their young, slaughtering them after less than half their natural lives and killing their male calves for veal is still infact hurting it.

>>6945472
And what about culling them when nobody buys dairy anymore? Would that hurt them? Yeah, everyone go vegan, make cows extinct.

>>6945495
when America becomes a vegan nation, there will only be a few thousand cows, pigs, chickens and turkeys. At that point, we can set them free or give them a nice life at a sanctuary. The only other scenario would be the animal-killing conglomerates eradicating them completely. Extinction is a far better fate than perpetual slavery and an endless Holocaust.
It takes all social justice movements hundreds or thousands of years to achieve their goals of freedom. It took 400 years to end slavery in America. Most women weren't given the right to vote until 1920. Segregation wasn't abolished until the '60s. Sadly, the world is not going vegan overnight, so worrying about space for 10 billion land animals isn't even an issue.
And if you're wondering why the government doesn't care about speciesism—the belief that humans are superior to animals, which leads to the wanton killing of billions of animals—remember, this is the same racist and sexist government that for hundreds of years condoned slavery and segregation, and denied women the right to vote. The same heterosexist government that still denies equal rights to homosexuals. The same thieving government that murdered millions of Native Americans, and stole their land. I think you get the picture.

The meat, dairy and egg industries constitute three of the most powerful and profitable businesses on this planet. Since money makes our government churn, how can it even begin to promulgate the unhealthiness of animal products, and the immorality of killing billions of animals?
We should never rely on politicians to make the world a more ethical place. Only when we, collectively, climb out of our abyss of callousness, open up our circles of compassion, stop viewing animals as commodities and property, and start viewing them as family, will animals ever achieve the freedom they rightly deserve.

>>6936059
Yeah.. so you pick products that are actually vegan.

>>6936090
What about the effect dairy production has on the environment and the fact that meat and dairy industries go hand in hand?


Jesus christ are you meat defenders idiotic. What's your next stupid argument; If everyone went vegan the cows would die for nothing cause no ones eating them? I'm not asking anyone to go vegan here, I'm simply asking you to actually think about how idiotic your arguments are.

>>6932605
I think you're lost. You probably meant to go to http://www.reddit.com/r/ainbow ?

So I went vegan recently and realized I can' t cook for shit. What are you other people making?

before & after

So a guy has a heart attack at a crowded theater:

Waiter: "Is anyone here a doctor?"
Vegan: "I'm a vegan!"

>>6945558
>speciesism
>vegan state
Not calling Poe's law, this is bait, it's gotta be... It's gotta be.

>>6943316
lol at your shitty soodo science

>>6932625
say that to my face boy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1Ce_O-ITQ