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6923922 No.6923922 [Reply] [Original]

ITT: Racist or otherwise offending products still out there

>> No.6923927

>>6923922
The only thing offensive about Aunt Jemima is that people actually buy a premade pancake mix.

>> No.6923943 [DELETED] 

>>6923922
Black people are so racist, I wish we could just gas them all.

>> No.6923953

>>6923922
Not as good as Kruteaz's.

>> No.6923954

>>6923922
So the now a simple picture of a black person is racist? Jesus fucking christ, can you sjw's take up a new cause already? You've beat this one into the ground.

>> No.6923960

At work we used to call whores Aunt Jemima when we were talking about them so they wouldn't overhear. It started with an off hand joke about the only other black girl to get passed around that much was Aunt Jemima and it became a codeword that stuck

>> No.6923961

I predict massive loads of butthurt over this thread by white people

>> No.6923966

>>6923922
If you are offended, tough. I don't plan on rearranging my life because your feeling got hurt. And you have no right to expect me to do so

>> No.6923970

>>6923961
I no, smh tbh fam, day shud lern 2 season day food

>> No.6923973

Aunt Jememer

>> No.6923978

>>6923966
>And you have no right to expect me to do so
wrong

>> No.6923994

>>6923973
>Aunt Jemima's Dank memecakes

>> No.6923996

>black
>think Aunt Jemima is funny
Why are letting SJWs speak for anyone? Holy Shit these people are literally anti fun

>> No.6923998

>>6923978
>my feelings got hurt
>I should be allowed to censor other people based purely off of muh feels
kill yourself tbh fam. If something offends you maybe you should shut the fuck up and deal with it

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>>6923978
I have a feeling that you specifically, will be offended by this one

>> No.6924056

>>6923922
You can call it what you want, but if we remove Aunt Jemima then suddenly we aren't being diverse/inclusive enough in our branding characters.

>> No.6924461
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6924461

>>6923922
Fuck, I love being white.

>> No.6924478
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>>6924461

>> No.6924480

>>6923922
oh lawdy i sho' do love cookin' them pancakes fuh yuh missah boss man suh.

>> No.6924485

I find it offensive that people find anything offensive.

>> No.6924488

>>6923922
Pre-made and frozen sandwiches, especially the really basic ones like peanut butter and jelly or plain cheese.

The stupidity of that sort of thing is very offensive to me.

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>>6923922

>> No.6924525
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6924525

No one is more racist than the chinks

>> No.6924548
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>> No.6924597
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>>6924548

>> No.6924613

>>6924525
Black people do have nice teeth though.
Idk why Africans haven't caught up yet, theirs is all yellow.

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6924635

>>6923922
>>6924515
>>6924548
Call me a racist dinosaur but I honestly don't see a single thing wrong with these products. Aren't they just slightly old-fashioned pictures of black people on the packaging? What's offensive about that?

>> No.6925117

>>6924548
this is disgusting

>> No.6925126
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6925126

Winner here. Straya mate.

>> No.6925140

>>6924635
It's the context, not the pictures themselves. When those pictures were created, (Uncle Ben, Aunt Jemima, the Cream-of-wheat guy) they were created to evoke feelings of comfort and nostalgia in whites who were raised on the cooking of their "mammies". (Black nanny's, housekeepers.) That's also where "Aunt" and "Uncle" come from.

However, since so much of that context has been lost, I think it's a moot point, now.

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>>6923922

>> No.6925219

>>6925140
wow so it's racist to have a black housekeeper

guess it's a job only fit for white folk huh?

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>> No.6925281
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6925281

I'm surprised Indian-Americans haven't raised much cane over this.

>> No.6925288

>>6925219
aunt susana and uncle pedro

>> No.6925290

>>6923922

This sjw shit is pushed on this board too?

Damn.

>> No.6925368

>>6923954

Jesus, buy a clue.

>> No.6925383

>>6925281
He's not shitting in the rice.

>> No.6925395
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6925395

They still sell this ones everywhere and no one gives a fuck

>> No.6925401

>>6923927
This.

>> No.6925406

>>6923978
How about you go fuck yourself, crybaby. No one gives a fuck if your feelings are hurt. Toughen up, buttercup.

>> No.6925409

>>6923978

Female poster.

>> No.6925410

>>6924056
Nailed it.
There's not and never will be pleasing the faggot sjws until they have full on socialism.

>> No.6925415

>>6924478
Now see, that one is racist.
Aunt Jemima is not. Can you understand the difference?

>> No.6925426

>>6925140
>that's where Aunt and Uncle come from

Are you fucking stupid? Jesus..

>> No.6925430

>>6925426

Don't try to refute what SJW's say, talking to a brick wall there guy

>> No.6925432

>>6925383
Where do you think they get the fertiliser to grow it?

>> No.6925467

>>6925406
Why are you so upset? Because people are fighting back against bigotry?

>> No.6925471
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>> No.6925475

>>6925430

Ummm, that SJW is totally correct. "Uncle" was a term given to elderly house slaves, since they couldn't be called "Sir" or "Mister". Which is why Uncle Ben's is called such, until a few years ago Ben was a butler.

>> No.6925479

>>6923998
He's not talking about censoring, just what he expects. I expect a lot from a lot of people it's not the same as legislation.

>>6924056
No one thinks of a mammy character as a positive for diversity. If a brand wants to be diverse in its branding it can choose a brand ambassador from the current era.

>>6925406
Of the two posters you're the only one who seems upset. Does the whiff of a racial conversation trigger you this much on 4chan. And I bet you make fun of tumblr demanding safe spaces.

>> No.6925485

>>6925467
what bigotry

>> No.6925495

>>6925426
>>6925430
Do you understand context? A black character on a product sold largely to whites called aunt or uncle is obviously a house servant. You might disagree about the offensiveness of the character itself but let's not pretend there's no racial subtext at all.

The faux outrage itt would put Twitter to shame. Can't you go guys go back to hating Jews and blacks rather than white people with a social conscience.

>> No.6925506

>>6925495
I don't hate anyone except self hating white people.
everyone buys aunt jemimah
same with uncle bens
I truely do not understand what is offensive about this

>> No.6925509

>>6924525
for a shine thats jigaboo bright!

>> No.6925518

>>6923966

>I don't plan on rearranging my life

i don't even understand what this could mean. what could you possibly rearrange in your life that would affect the packaging of this product?

>> No.6925521

>>6923954
White people, everyone.

>> No.6925523

>>6925495
So what? Get over it.

>> No.6925532

>>6925521
White guilt everyone. Sorry but I don't have anything to feel guilty about.

>> No.6925537

>>6925475

Slavery was disbanded 150 years ago, get over it.

>> No.6925539

>>6925506

if you don't understand from two very clear posts explaining what could be considered offensive, it's obviously not an issue of understanding but disagreement/intolerance

>> No.6925542

aunt jemima is literally from a minstrel show you whitesplaining dingi

>> No.6925543
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6925543

>>6925479

>If a brand wants to be diverse in its branding it can choose a brand ambassador from the current era.
>it offends me, so it can choose what I like...or else

>> No.6925546

>>6925539
literally what is offensive about a black housekeeper

>> No.6925548

>>6925495

>muh context

Why do you hate being white?

>> No.6925554
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6925554

>>6925539

Your intolerance of my intolerance of brown people is bigoted.

Fighting bigotry with bigotry and blatant ethnomasochism?

Good lad...

>> No.6925560

>>6925546

selling a product using a very direct symbol of slavery will obviously be offensive to some people.

>>6925554

booooorring

>> No.6925566

>>6925475
But that's not where the term Uncle comes from, you motherfucking dumbass, it's just one example of the word's usage.

>> No.6925569

>>6925521
Fuck off, nigger.

>> No.6925570

>>6925560
you seem to have got lost on your way to plebbit, nigger.

>> No.6925572
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6925572

>>6925560
pretty sure housekeepers get paid
what if they were white? would that be ok?
I guess so, because white people have never been slaves of course...

>> No.6925573

I knew birdshitskins would get mad ITT

>> No.6925576

>>6925467
No, because you'll never be able to erase people of different races disliking each other, and you're only creating a new and more insidious problem. We don't fucking need or want your thought police.

>> No.6925583

>>6925560

>slavery

Having access to clean water, education, housing, clothing, medicine, food and culture= bad.

Dying of curable illnesses in the 21st century= good.

Gotta love Africans.

Protip: freed slaves founded Liberia on the backs of slaves they abducted after getting back to Africa. Slaves enslaving slaves...must have been a horrible experience for negros living in the USA.

TOPMOTHERFUCKINGKEK

Why don't you know history and why do you hate being white so much?

>> No.6925584

>>6925572
This.
I love how people love to overlook the fact that every race and nationality, including whites have been slaves at some point in history.
But then, this is what you DON'T learn with our liberal education systrm.

>> No.6925585

>>6925572

>white people have never been slaves

Bait and sarcasm.

>> No.6925587

>>6925539
Why do you think people have the right to never be offended? I get offended everyday but I suck it up because I'm a grown man.

>> No.6925588

>>6925537
And your dad probably grew up in a world still contemplating whether blacks should be allowed to drink from the same fountain as whites. I'm sure attitudes have done a complete 180 in the proceeding years to the point where any discussion on race is moot.

>> No.6925591

>>6925584
MY ANCESTORS WERE ENSLAVED BY THE ROMANS, I WANT REPARATIONS FROM ITALY.

>> No.6925593

>>6925591
your mother was enslaved by my dick, you should demand reparations from my balls.

>> No.6925598
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>>6925591
little more current actually

>> No.6925601

>>6925585
b-but muh slavic slaves

STFU Russians are not white

>> No.6925603

>>6925572

a symbol of white slavery might well be offensive if it was commonly understood as such, stop whitesplaining.

>>6925583

slavery was defined by *not* having access to those things, which is why it is seen as abhorrent. clearly no one thinks they're bad.

>>6925587

i don't, but attacking people for being offended is plainly unfair and unethical.

>> No.6925604

>>6925576
We're gaining ground and you know it. 20 years and we'll have won.

>> No.6925607

>>6925543
Did I make threat? Or does pretending I did make my point easier to argue against.

>>6925523
I am not perturbed by it to any extent greater than posting anonymously about it on 4chan.

>>6925548
I'm not white, I'm not part of the American racial map at all. As neutral an observer as you could imagine. The question is do you hate your own brain so much that you have to turn it off during any racial conversation because you've already picked a side. The "muh x" meme would indicate as much.

>> No.6925610

>>6925588

There were no blacks in Ireland then....

That didn't affect your life, or anyone you know.

90% of white people you know (you're also white) are the product of 19th or 20th century immigration. You and everyone you know quite literally has nothing to do with slavery, we're never wealthy enough to own a slave, and don't know people descended from slaves.

Mass immigration from Africa to the USA in the 20th century is also an issue to speak about. Blacks came along with everyone else during the gold rush to stake claims, or go to NYC to get their piece of the pie.

Instead of assuming everything about something you know nothing of, open up actual history books...then shut your mouth. You cry too much.

>> No.6925612

>>6925601
What about Western Europeans such as people from modern france and england and spain?

>> No.6925615

>>6924461
Bitches be thirsty for some brawny

>> No.6925617

>>6925598
>>6925591
Not to mention the slave trade is still active today, all over the world, including the US, on the black market, selling young women and boys, usually who've come here illegally, but also by kidnapping. But NO, ONLY BLACK LIVES MATTER.

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>>6924480
Maaaaaaammyyyy

>> No.6925622

>>6925601

The moors enslaved half of western europe. Open a history book not written by Oprah please.

>>6925603

>not having their own things

Soul food would be a good indication that slaves were fed quite well while indentured into servitude.

>>6925607

>I'm not white.

Yes you are. Stop talking.

>> No.6925624

>>6925622

>Soul food would be a good indication that slaves were fed quite well

show your work.

>> No.6925625

>>6925617

Joseph Kony is still actively abducting children from their mothers arms in the middle of the night to fight in his child army.

Whitey made him do it.

>> No.6925626

>>6925622
Yeah collard greens cooked down with pork trimmings are totally a sign of good eats

>> No.6925627

>>6925625
>whitey made him do it

I see what you did there.

>> No.6925628

>>6925603
no one understands any of this shit as anything except nice black lady cook on my pancake box, except for you fucking idiots
>whitesplaining
what fresh hell is this? sounds like tumblr, smells like fat college chicks.

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>>6925624

You know I'm right. Stop crying. Really....it's embarrassing. They also had their own homes on the plantations they lived. But...factually speaking negros were expensive livestock most plantation owners couldn't afford, not even one of them.

Less than 1% of colonialism ever owned a slave. The first slave owner in the USA was an African immigrant though.

>> No.6925631

>>6925610
>You and everyone you know quite literally has nothing to do with slavery, we're never wealthy enough to own a slave, and don't know people descended from slaves.

That's an oversimplification, and a very stupid one. Global trade meant lots of places that didn't own slaves directly had a very vested interest in slavery.

Laborers in Britian had jobs in the mills - because they were processing cotton picked by slaves. Traders in Boston made their money off the triangle trade, etc.

Nor were the economics of slavery instantly ended in 1865. Sharecropping systems kept blacks artificially poor, etc.

Does that mean you have a personal responsibility? No. Does it mean that due to historic prejudice you've enjoyed more capital within your own community that black people have, and thus have less adverse items to contend with? Probably. Does that mean you yourself don't have any adverse items? No, of course not.

>> No.6925632

>>6925626

>implying greens with trotters isn't fucking delicious.

Go back to /b/ and cry about your Hotpockets there.

>> No.6925633

>>6925628

>no one understands any of this shit as anything except nice black lady cook on my pancake box

the thing is that a lot of uneducated white people don't understand it and a lot of educated black people do understand, which is why it annoys them so much.

>what fresh hell is this? sounds like tumblr, smells like fat college chicks.

it is probably a tumblr term.

>> No.6925634

>>6925632
Not saying they're bad. just saying they're not a sign of being 'well fed'..

>> No.6925635

>>6925631
What happened with the Irish then?

>> No.6925636

>>6925631

Tldr, none of what you said relates to the people you're claiming are at fault for slavery. Literally no one in their families owed a slave, and moved to the USA long after it was disbanded.

Stop crying. Get over it. I'm irish and I don't cry about England enslaving my people for the better part of a melenia.

>> No.6925639

NEGERZOENEN

It's still a used term.

>> No.6925640

>>6925629

all of this is specious prevarication intended to put slavery in a relatively positive light. just come out and say if you actually don't think black slavery in the US was a bad thing and we ccan argue from there.

i don't think soul food shows that black slaves had a good level of access to food. i actually think the opposite.

>> No.6925642

>>6925634

Stews, chickens, ribs brisket, fuck...have you seen how large most slaves were? They were bred like the livestock they are. Massive mountains of muscle and bone to move mounds of stones, erect buildings etc etc etc...

Slaves ate a whole hell of a lot more than their african born counterparts. They could also drink water without fear of dying from analeakage

>> No.6925644

>>6925636
>Tldr, none of what you said

Not even him but what

>> No.6925646

>>6925642

so your argument is that even if slavery is bad, it's better than living in africa? meaning it was effectively a gift?

>> No.6925647

>>6925646
of course it was

>> No.6925648

>>6925635

Lots of stuff?

The Irish were opposed by the Know-Nothings, but in the US they weren't disenfranchised to anywhere near the level blacks were. The UK is a different story, the Corn Laws were evil, etc. But aside from stories of "No Irish Need Apply" (mostly unsupported btw) there weren't Jim Crow laws against the Irish for 90 years.

The Irish were also free to move west and establish themselves. In fact the Irish that did the least well are those that stayed in their traditional areas - southie Boston and Appalachia.

>> No.6925649

>>6925640

I'm irish I dont care about the feelings of slaves in the USA.

See: >>6925642

I personally think they were extended an extra 30 years of life by not living in a savage shithole without access to anything considered "normal" by global standards...like clean water...and food...something the Romans and greeks, the Chinese and Japanese figured out thousands of years before Sub-Saharan Africans did...

They still prefer a tribalistic lifestyle. Savages.

>> No.6925652

>>6925647

that is unbelievably retarded.

>> No.6925653

>>6925652
To a simple mind, yes.

>> No.6925654

>>6925646

Yes, see >>6925649

The British brought my ancestors out of the stupid ages, as did the Germanic and Spanish when they swept through my island.

I'm grateful for irish slavery otherwise I'd be playing the Bodhran in the rain for Samhain in a few weeks....wait...I'm going to do that anyway.

>> No.6925655

>>6925642
The more common brand of slaves were not large. You're describing the oh so scary mandingo. Slaves mostly ate scraps and grain. Modern day soul food is the same recipes but with far more adequate ingredients.

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>>6925649

Here's a slave shack - you think there was running water in there? You don't know what the fuck you're talking about, mick cunt.

>> No.6925658

>>6925646
Go around and take a poll, asking black people if they wish their ancestors had stayed in Africa so they could still be living there today. I think you know what the answer would be.

>> No.6925660

>>6925653

to a mind that values the principles of liberty and non-violence, you mean.

>> No.6925662

>>6925655
*are the

>> No.6925663

>>6925657
A mud hut is preferable?
You're a special kind of special.

>> No.6925664

>>6925648

>I learned what I know of the Irish from movies
>blacks suffered the most
>blacks always suffer the most

Man, good thing they invented the red cross and distributed malaria vaccines last year during that outbreak.

>> No.6925666

>>6925610
>Instead of assuming everything about something you know nothing of, open up actual history books...then shut your mouth. You cry too much.

You say that while assuming I'm white. I'm not. Slavery makes for good movies but doesn't really concern me. What does is the treatment of blacks after slavery was ended on the assumption that they were a lower race. That after centuries of being denied basic education or real world experience blacks are now sneered at for being illeterate and lazy. Despite the fact that the parents of most black kids were raised by people who went to a black only school, a black only church and played ball in a black only court.

I know that the black community doesn't really help itself much. But to act high and mighty about how blacks should buck up and get with the program denies centuries of institutional racism that didn't end 150 years ago.

>> No.6925667

>>6925658

i'm sure they would be in favour of immigration to the US but against immigration in the form of slavery.

>> No.6925668

>>6925660
So, not blacks then.

>> No.6925669

>>6925655

Says who? I see no mass Graves on plantations from starved slaves. They don't exist that's why. They were afforded a better life, despite the circumstances...than what they would have had in Africa.

Their own leaders sold off the deviants, criminals, degenerates, rapists and other useless savages to business men from all over the planet. Blacks imported more blacks to US soil than Europeans did.

>> No.6925670

>>6925667
Their own ancestors sold them to slave traders. They are passing the buck, as usual.

>> No.6925671

>>6925670

i don't see why that's relevant.

>> No.6925672

>>6925670
we din do nuffin

>> No.6925675

>>6925666

According to science they're not even human, so why are we having this discussion?

>institutional racism

Even with the NAACP and ADL their crime rates continue to explode. Some animals can't be trained...

Sub-Saharan Africans= not modern man.


http://news.discovery.com/human/genetics-neanderthal-110718.htm

>> No.6925676

>>6925666
Translated as: gib us mo free shit or else we burn dis sucka
Fuck off back to community college with this shit, sambo.

>> No.6925680

>>6925521
Sorry I don't have enough white guilt to care about minuscule product marketing techniques. Why don't you SJW's actually try to take on an issue that has more weight, rather than nitpicking?

Oh yeah, 'cause that involves actually DOING something (posting on tumblr doesn't count). Guess not.

>> No.6925682

>>6925671
It's 100% relevant because there would have been no slave trade out of Africa if they had fough against it, instead of encouraging it by selling each other off.
White guilt, my fucking dick.

>> No.6925684

>>6925603
>stop whitesplaining

Ok now I know this is a troll. Breddy gud anon, got most of the thread fanny flustered. 8/10.

>> No.6925686

>>6925682

i don't think you can blame them for being enslaved. yes some of them participated in it, but that doesn't mean the ones who didn't - aka the majority in the US - are at fault.

>> No.6925687

>>6925604
That's what was said 20 years ago. You will NEVER get different races to be totally OK with each other. Humans are wary of what is different, it's in our instincts.

Unfortunate, but true. Best we can do is try to live with it.

>> No.6925689

>>6925669
We weren't talking about Africa so all that;s irrelevant. To say slaves ate well is ridiculous and that goes back to my original post. Bitter greens cooked down with throw-away pork parts are not a sign of being fed well, it's a sign of resourcefulness if anything.

>> No.6925690

>>6925664

Uh huh. You want to compare indentured servitude to chattel slavery, there isn't a real comparison across generations. Indentured servitude didn't propogate to children.

You want to whine about the potato famine, take it up with the Brits. The Irish got a relatively warm welcome in the US - which is why there's more Irish here than in their own shit island.

>> No.6925691

>>6925684

i did mean to annoy people with that word but otherwise i'm trying to be reasonable.

>> No.6925698

>>6925669
>Blacks imported more blacks to US soil than Europeans did.

Uhhhh yeah, that's complete bullshit. Main slave shippers to the New World were the Dutch and Spanish, followed by the English. African nations didn't have cargo or navy ships capable of crossing the Atlantic for the most part.

>> No.6925700

>>6925687
They say race is a social construct.

Perhaps someone then, can explain why black squirrels and gray squirrels hate each other.

>> No.6925704

>>6925686
You are pulling shit out of your ass. Of course they can be blamed for being enslaved. It wouldn't have happened if other African tribes hadn't caught, enslaved, and sold them to the white traders. It was big business for Africans.

>> No.6925706

>>6925704

the ones who were enslaved can't be blamed for being enslaved, are you stupid? i'm not pulling shit out of my ass at all, i'm making an argument not a factual statement.

>> No.6925708

>>6925690

Catholicism and Capitalism is why there are more irish abroad than in Ireland.

>> No.6925710

>>6925698
And....
now tell me how those ships managed to round up their cargo.

>> No.6925713

>>6925689

Slaves ate well a lot better than they would have in the villages they were taken from. They were the "throw away" members of those societies. Hence the aggression ans criminality hard wired into their offspring, and theirs, and theirs etc etc etc...

Niggers gonna nig

>> No.6925715

>>6925636
>Stop crying. Get over it. I'm irish and I don't cry about England enslaving my people for the better part of a melenia.

First of all many Irish do still cry about it. Because it's something that left an indelible mark on their country and people. But to equate black who were taken out of their land and treated not even worthy of being in the same building as whites till the 60s to Irish people who could move to any part of the white world and not have to carry their racial baggage around is disingenuous.

I'm Indian and the English did a lot of damage to my country as well. Some good too but a lot of damage. The amount of lives lost due to English engineered famines and ultimately the partition is more than any genocide ever. Never mind the people that were killed first hand and the destruction of culture and pride. But I can't compare my racial baggage to blacks because my grandparents weren't taken out of India to serve as bonded labour in a different country where they were denied not only education and liberty but any cultural heritage beyond that of being subservient to the masters.

>> No.6925716

>>6925706
You're an idiot. The arguement wasn't about who was enslaved, it was about who caused the enslavement. Moron.

>> No.6925718

>>6925713

>Slaves ate well a lot better than they would have in the villages they were taken from.

citation needed

> They were the "throw away" members of those societies. Hence the aggression ans criminality hard wired

when you use the term 'hard wired' you imply innateness. you can't provide a clear societal premise for why they would act a certain way and then say 'therefore it is innate'. that makes no fucking sense.

>> No.6925719

>>6925706
>the ones who were enslaved can't be blamed for being enslaved, are you stupid
That's a strawman.

The tribes who enslaved others can be blamed for being enslaved themselves because they weren't smart enough to realize that they would eventually be enslaved themselves.

If you want to find something Afrikans can't be blamed for, look at the Belgian rubber/hands trade.

>> No.6925720

>>6925715

>the Irish can just deal with it
>muh suffering tho
>PAY ATTENTION TO ME

Typical nigger.

>> No.6925725

>>6925716
>>6925719

i am happy to blame the black slavers along with the white slavers for black slavery. i am not happy to blame *all* black people in the US for black slavery. if you can't understand this you are a feral, euthanisable moron.

>> No.6925726

>>6925718

>no societal evidence

Look at societies they're left alone with....

No idea why you're justifying the actions of subhuman primates that even genetics confirm as nonhuman

>> No.6925731

>>6925726

>Look at societies they're left alone with....

show your work. i don't even know what this means.

>> No.6925732

Over 95% of black voters voted for obama.
Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see who the real racists are.

>> No.6925734

>>6925713
>Slaves ate well a lot better than they would have in the villages they were taken from.

So what? I'm not arguing against or for slavery so why do you keep bringing it up instead of presenting a relevant argument? They still ate like shit over here and weren't 'well fed'.

>> No.6925735

>>6925725

>if you don't feel bad for black people you're a moron
>that's my opinion

Good thing for me is that everyone has an opinion, much like their asshole...they think they're important but they're not.

Catch my drift? This is a /b/ or /pol/ tier thread that should be deleted at thus point.

>> No.6925736

Is funny how Americans hate niggers in their country but they forced them into it.

>> No.6925737

>>6925731

Africa is their work, Google it.

Slavery is still very active there.

>> No.6925738

>>6925734
That's the problem with the typical negro. They want everything as long as they don't have to work for it or put their asses in the game.

>> No.6925739

>>6925736
Truly our biggest blunder.

>> No.6925741

>>6925734

They ate well. They didn't starve to death= eating well.

>> No.6925742

>>6925735

i have an argument. i don't have a clear opinion on the issue because i don't pretend to know everything about it, but my argument clearly exposes your reasoning as bigoted. you think the existence of black slavers exculpates white slavers and all those other white people who showed the prejudice of a society currently and recently participating in slavery.

>> No.6925744

>>6925736
Lincoln intended to ship them back. But JWB fucked that up.

>> No.6925745

>>6925737

africa is an entire continent in which slavery is not ubiquitous.

>> No.6925747

>>6925725
>if you dont feel sorry for blacks, you should be euthanized

Tumblrina SJWs, ladies and gentlemen......what a fucking drooling pinhead.......

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>>6925738

>> No.6925751

>>6925745
because UN

>> No.6925753

>there are white people who unironically don't think every nigger should be burned alive

>> No.6925754

>>6925738
Yes "we", those of us that are 200 years old I suppose.

>> No.6925756

>>6925742
See
>>6925554

You're also a bigot, at least I'm openly stating I believe blacks were better off as slaves than left alone in their own continent.

You flip flopping subversion and blatant self hatred is pretty pathetic.

How long can blacks use the "slavery" crutch? Even the Jews...the most whiney bunch on the planet seemed to get their shit together after they were freed of their slavery

>> No.6925757

>>6925687
Really? People though of race very differently a few decades ago. People who are considered white now would never dream of being classified as the same race as each other. In America at least Italians, pollacks, Jews and Irish are all considered the same race. Socially and legally. There might be some gentle ribbing about Italians and Irish but for the most part racial lines that were as deep as the ocean a century ago have all but vanished.

The position that bigotry is natural and can't be helped so why even try is about the laziest you can pick. And the laziness is borne out of being part of the in group.

>> No.6925759

>>6925754
Sorry responded to wrong person

>> No.6925762

>>6925745

Name one African country without slaves, do your due diligence before posting.

Protip: every African nation is either in a state of warfare, or political unrest. Slavery is common place on that continent especially northern African nations.

>> No.6925764

>>6925756

it's not bigoted to disagree with you. that's the weakest most cynical shit i have ever heard.

i don't hate myself at all. i haven't said anything about any kind of 'debt' or expressed any white guilt at all. i'm just not being blatantly racist like you are.

>> No.6925765

>>6925757
Negroes are a wild card that cannot be compared to other ethnic groups. I find it even more delicious that your president has set back race relations with blacks the few decades that you mention. The more you show your true colors, the more enemies you make. And it's wonderful to witness.

>> No.6925767

>>6925720
Can you read?

>> No.6925768

>>6925757

Governments grouped all Europeans together, as they have similar aesthetics but very different genetics. People tend to group like things together.

>> No.6925770

>>6925764

It is. Why am I not entitled to an opinion? Seems a bit oppressive, bigoted abs thick headed of you to shut off your ears going "blah blah blah la la la la" when you don't like certain facts.

The world is a rough place cupcake, grow thicker skin.

>> No.6925771

>>6925756
Eh say what you will about jews but they have a deep sense of community via religion or if not that, the dollar. Blacks are a by-product of america's inequities as a country,

>> No.6925772

>>6925767

Yes, obviously.

You cry too much.

>> No.6925773

>>6925636

I've never met an Irish person that doesn't bitch about it constantly, like you're doing here. If anything bad ever happens to anyone ever, the stupid Irish have to bring up how the English were mean to them.

>> No.6925774

>>6925771

What about blacks in Africa?

Nothing has been holding them back for the past few thousand years.

>> No.6925776

>>6925773

I never said that once ITT, I've stated multiple times I don't care about it. The Spanish and Germans enslaved my island for a lot longer than the English. My appearance is proof of that being Black-Irish.

>> No.6925777

>>6925770

no one says you aren't entitled to an opinion. you are entitled to ownership of all kinds of abhorrent things.

you've accused me of hypersensitivity and guilt repeatedly without any real basis, you just characterise people who disagree with you on this subject that way. let me tell you that it isn't a pre-requisite for an anti-slavery mindset.

>> No.6925779

>>6925774
GLOBAL OPPRESSION
We're terrified that blacks will surpass us all so we need to oppress them.

>> No.6925782

>>6925757
>The position that bigotry is natural and can't be helped so why even try is about the laziest you can pick.

First of all, bigotry as a biological response serves a very tangible purpose - "the other" is always a threat until proven otherwise, and as such hostility towards that other (what you might call "bigotry") is the safest course of action. Virtually every species of social organism practices "bigotry"; it's how they stay alive. Secondly, suppressing a biological response does not remove it.

>> No.6925783

>>6925774
What about blacks in africa? Why is that always the default response? Regardless, you or me would probably be horse cum drinking, little boy fucking, pillaging savages too given the right environment.

>> No.6925785

>>6925776
I loved you song boys are back in town but wish your band had more variety in its sound.

>> No.6925787

>>6925776
Spaniards coming to Ireland is myth, dumb potato skin

>> No.6925788

>>6925782
>Secondly, suppressing a biological response does not remove it.
They have been trying for years. My thought on this is that it will just make the inevitable backlash even more terrific.

>> No.6925790

What a gay thread

>> No.6925791

>>6925757

This. "White" in the US just meant not African or Mexican. There's plenty of idiot White Power fucks in Oklahoma who are part Cherokee. White originally referred only to protestants from the UK, then expanded. Most people yelling about how blacks are savages wouldn't have been considered white then.

I think my favorite stupid racism though has to be the Polish Neo-Nazis in NYC.

>> No.6925794

>>6925783
>only blacks have been through difficult times in their existence
You're not very good at this.

>> No.6925797

>>6925783
>What about blacks in africa? Why is that always the default response?

Because they've had a massive head start over everyone else and there are some of them that are literally still living in the stone age - it's pretty damn compelling evidence that the problem with American blacks is that they're black, not that society is responsible for their perennial underachievement.

>> No.6925801

>>6925700

If you want to act like a rodent, by all means...

>> No.6925802

>>6925782
You're proving my point. A century or so ago you biological response would've alerted you to say polish immigrants. Because the social mores would've pointed to them as the outsiders. Today you consider them part of the group. So a change in society triggered a change in your biological response. All that means is that social change can change even our most basic responses. Isn't that what social justice wants to acheive.

>> No.6925804

>>6925791

Mexicans are considered white in America now too.

>> No.6925806

>>6925797

Go read Germs Guns and Steel - basically anywhere that wasn't Eurasia developed slower, as an accident of geography.

>> No.6925809

>>6925797

>implying you would have invented the wheel

get real

>> No.6925811

>>6925802
1. Poles have redeeming qualities
2. Blacks do not
Care to see the stats or will you just deny them again? (Don't answer this question)

>> No.6925812

>>6925787

They used Ireland as a staging point to wage war with England for 250 years....

Your willful ignorance astounds me.

>> No.6925816

>>6925811

Seen what they're doing in response to the Syrian rioters? Burning mosques... based polski people

>> No.6925818

>>6925779

Idiot.

Take your maymay speak back to your containment board.

>> No.6925819

>>6925791
Out of the so called whites Italians and Irish tend to be the most racist. I think hating black people is how they endeared themselves to the people who were considered white then.

>> No.6925823

>>6925816

Angry mobs burning down property. Surely they are above blacks!

>> No.6925825

>>6925787

Uhhh it's not - DNA testing has shown an Iberian influx prior to the conversion of Ireland to Christianity.

>> No.6925826

>>6925777

The state or African nations without outside intervention is proof enough.

Even Darwin saw blacks as a lesser animal.

>> No.6925832

>>6925823

Syrians aren't black...

I do enjoy the butthurt of Europeans that openly embrace their own dispossession... like you... you're one of those people.

>> No.6925833

>>6925804

By who? Most of the racist whites in the Southwest at least hate Mexicans as much, if not more, than blacks. Minutemen, etc.

>> No.6925835

>>6925794
Feel free to point out in my post where I expressed that.

>>6925797
But I wasn't referring to blacks in africa at all. So again why bother mentioning it? Also, you're delusional or foreign if you think the average black american isn't sold a certain ideal and boxed into stereotypes early on. And again, much like i said before, you'd probably be living in the stone age too if all of your resources were sold out by malicious faggots of your own ilk.

>> No.6925840

>>6925833
I like beaners because they hate blacks more than any other people I've ever met. And, you know, they work.

>> No.6925841

>>6925811

Uhhh not really, unless you count putting chrome on anything standing still a redeeming quality. I'll take modern music and fried chicken over peorogis any day.

>> No.6925847

>>6925832
>Syrians aren't black...

You read worse than a nigger

>> No.6925848

>>6925840

No way - Southern Europeans, Slavs especially, are WAY more racist!

But it is funny that the stereotype of Mexicans is lazy . . . . those fuckers work like nothing else.

>> No.6925853

>>6925835
Again you make the point that blacks don't have the ability to think or act for themselves and at the same time deny this trait is what keeps them savage. One or the other, pls.

>> No.6925854

>>6925840
You live in la or something?

>> No.6925863

>>6925848
I've met real African blacks who hate American blacks with a burning intensity for squandering such opportunities.

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>>6925126

>> No.6925877

>>6925863

Yeah - I know Northeast blacks that HATE the Caribbean immigrants, for being the worst stereotypical niggers you can imagine

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>>6925806
>Jared Diamond
Ayy.

>>6925809
The Olmec did. They just never did anything with it beyond making toys, not even hand carts.

>>6925835
>But I wasn't referring to blacks in africa at all. So again why bother mentioning it?
Because it's relevant to my point, unless you think that American blacks simply sprang out of the earth and have no African ancestry - the problem with blacks is that they're black, not that they're "oppressed".

>you'd probably be living in the stone age too if all of your resources were sold out by malicious faggots of your own ilk.
The British Isles have been a morass of violence throughout most of recorded history and they've done pretty fucking well for themselves.

>> No.6925890

>>6925825
Prove it then

>> No.6925895

>>6925812
I used your mom's pussy as a staging point to wage war with your dad for 250 years.

>> No.6925896

>>6925880
>unless you think that American blacks simply sprang out of the earth and have no African ancestry

American blacks and africans are about as similar as mayonaise and butter. So while the africans may be relevant to your moot point they certainly weren't relevant to your argument. And yeah ireland and the uk are totally devoid of problems and are utopias becuz no blacks.

>> No.6925900

>>6925896
You are being deliberately obtuse. In person you'd be shouting above him and claiming you've won.

>> No.6925901

>>6925896
>American blacks and africans are about as similar as mayonaise and butter.
Care to qualify that?

>> No.6925903
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6925903

I find it funny how racist cumskins are considering how much black DNA they have.

>> No.6925907

>>6925890

You haven't heard of Google?

http://www.sott.net/article/263587-DNA-shows-Irish-people-have-more-complex-origins-than-previously-thought

>> No.6925908

>>6925847

Poles are burning down mosques in response to Syrian welfare migrants.

I believe you are the one with reading comprehension disabilities.

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Known around here as "negress tits"

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>>6925903
>uncited, vague graph

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>>6925907
Irish are more related to the French and other Northwestern Europeans more than they are to the Spanish and that article is useless since all it says is that they are genetic relatives. The haplogroup they are talking about is all over western Europe and came long before the idea of Spanish people came into existence.

All Europeans are genetic relatives. All humans on Earth are too. It's nothing special or significant to be called a genetic relative.

>> No.6925959

>>6925952

Actually no - it's claming there are haplogroups found in the Irish that previously had only been found in the Basque. Meaning since those groups are not found in the neighboring peoples, the most likely explanation is some direct settlement from Iberia directly.

>> No.6925965

>>6925952

Here's hard, physical and factual evidence.

Just accept the fact that you're part Spanish/Arab...like all the other people in Ireland.

http://www.archaeology.org/news/3412-150617-ireland-spanish-armada

>> No.6925967

>>6925959
Yes, I know but that article is outdated and those haplogroups would have spread long before the idea of Spanish people.

>> No.6925968

>>6925944
These used to be called "Nigger kisses" in Finland but that got changed at around early 2000s.

>> No.6925993

>>6925967

The Basque are pretty genetically isolated and predate modern spaniards (who I believe are descendants of the Germanic tribes from the end of the Roman Empire, with lots of Moor thrown in). But the Irish connection is Iberian, not Spanish per se.

>> No.6926001

RIP my inbox

>> No.6926024

>>6925968
Yeah, official name here is "melocake", but everybody knows what you mean when you say "negress tits", more so than melocakes.

>> No.6926068

>>6925993
The haplogroup the article is talking about and you're referencing is all over western europe.

There is no special Iberian-Ireland connection unless you think there's also a special Western European-Ireland connection. The males that carried that haplogroup just spread their seed everywhere. Nothing special.

>> No.6926092

>>6926068
See
>>6925965

Except for irrefutable archeological evidence.

>> No.6926139

>>6923922
Hello Tumblr

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>>6926139

My sentiments exactly.

>> No.6926264

>>6923922
>>>/pol/

>> No.6926288

>>6925903
Too bad more black men don't know how to keep it in their pants. How many baby mommas do you have, since you seem so fucking proud of yourself.

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>>6923922
I understand that the origin of the brand had some racist tones to it. such as pic related. but it just seems silly to nitpick about the picture from the OP because it doesn't look offensive, it may be from my perspective as a white person but all I see is a happy black person. sure it could have been edited better but if you think smiling black people on packages are racist then I really can't argue that silly of a point.

>> No.6926385

>>6925566
Obviously they meant where the meaning of the term in that context came from, you retard.

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>>6925873
Not food but

>> No.6926395 [DELETED] 

OH GOSH
IM SO OFFENDED WAAAHHHH
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
IM A VICTIM

>> No.6926403

Pretty sure this will be the first thread in /ck/ history to reach the bump limit within 24 hours

>> No.6926404

>>6925506
So you can't understand how house-nigger cotton wipes or holocaust-jew briskets might be offensive to someone? Or does it only matter/count when your personal feelings are offended?
Are you perhaps autistic? It could explain your inability to understand social ques and other people.

>> No.6926417

>>6924008
THIS LITERALLY JUST GAVE ME PTSD

>> No.6926426

>>6925406
Whoa what an edgy badass. He don't care what no one think!

>> No.6926435

>>6926404
>MUH FEELS
I'm not autistic (good insult though), I just don't give a shit. Maybe when you've matured you'll realise that there's more to life than walking around on eggshells for the benefit of people who don't give a shit about you. Don't be a dick, but don't bend over backwards and spread your asscheeks for every "marginalised" group of people. That's why we're in the mess we're in now.

>> No.6926442

>>6926426
>thinks someone is being edgy because they don't give a shit what other people think

Pussy.

>> No.6926448

>>6926435
>That's why we're in the mess we're in now

What mess is that specifically?

>> No.6926455

/ck/ is the only board that consistently falls for and gets angry at obvious bait.

>> No.6926456

>>6926404
how is any of that like a simple smiling black housekeeper
I will ask again, if she was irish, would you have a problem with it? No overtones in any kind, just a box of bannock mix with a smiling lady with red hair.

Does that offend you?

Keep in mind the image itself carries no negative connotations, unlike say, pic related.

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>>6926456
oops here you go

>> No.6926461

>>6925806
>geographic determinism
Jared Diamond is a joke m8.

Not as much as the /pol/tard you're replying to though.

>> No.6926465

>>6923961
>>6923994
>>6923996
>>6924056
>>6924461
>>6924480
>>6924485
>>6924488
>>6924525
>>6924613
>>6925126
>>6925554

4chan, incapable of helping someone since 2003.

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>this thread
White people.

>> No.6926500 [DELETED] 

>>311540068
/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>> No.6926501

>>6926497
euphoric memes are pretty passe these days tbh

>> No.6926509

>>6926461
How is he a joke? Do you have sources that directly refute his theories?

>> No.6926519

>>6925467
Do you even know what the word bigotry means? If anybody is truly bigoted, it's you fucking SJW types.

>> No.6926537

>>6926519
>Muh racism should be respected!!!

>> No.6926538

>>6926519

"Libruls are the real racists".

Can you just say "Bush wasn't really a conservative" so I can win wingnut bingo?

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>>6926509
There's are loads of articles and blogs out there explaining, Jared Diamonds shortcomings.
He's a fucking anthropologist who doesn't appear to have a clue what he's talking about.
He oversimplifies, gets facts wrong and cherry-picks constantly to weave a convenient little story.

If you're actually interested in the subject read this, it even has a chapter dedicated to why GG&S is so inaccurate (and kind of racist).

>> No.6926540

/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>> No.6926544

>>6925896
>And yeah ireland and the uk are totally devoid of problems and are utopias becuz no blacks.

The Irish are a lesser European race. The English have cultural issues and their underclass is huge.

but Sweden was basically an utopia and virtually devoid of problems until they started importing them in the form of Somali shitskins and various middle eastern sandnigger varieties. Now they have whole neighborhoods that are like fucking war zones, exploding numbers of violent assault rape, lots of muggings, a few riots here and there because the police dared to do their job and their students school performance is dropping like a wet sack of potatoes because there's so many black and brown kids dragging down the average with their stupidity and incompetence.

So while you obviously can't blame all the problems of all the (formerly) white countries on the shitskins, they always make the quality of life much worse.

Also, did you already forget who set London on fire because the police shot a drug dealer? Niggers did.

>> No.6926545

>>6926537
To not do so would be intolerant.

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>This triggers the sjw

>> No.6926553

>>6926537
>>6926538

I see you both don't know the actual meaning of the word but are so convinced that you do, you didn't even bother looking it up in a dictionary.

Bigotry has nothing to do with racism. When I say SJWs are bigoted, I am not accusing them of racism because that's not what the word means, you fucking brain dead morons.

>> No.6926567

>>6926553
>When I say SJWs are bigoted, I am not accusing them of racism because that's not what the word means, you fucking brain dead morons.

Oh jesus, this wounded conservatard crap again.

Do you understand that not agreeing with you is not being 'intolerant'? That your arguments, which have been proven wrong over and over, don't deserve a response, and being flip is not preventing you from holding them?

Nobody's calling for the police to come arrest you for being a racist piece of shit. We're simply, correctly, identifying you as a racist piece of shit.

Now tell me how we're stopping Dr. Laura's first amendment rights . . . .

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>>6926509
>Do you have sources that directly refute his theories?

Verily, Indeed I fucking do, good sir.

Feast your eyes on this here photograph to witness Mr. Diamond having gotten blown the fuck out as they like to say, if I do say so myself.