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This is my first time visiting this board.
My reason for being here is that my brother's birthday is coming up and I would like to give him a decent chef's knife.
Could you give me a few pointers on what makes a good knife?

>> No.6749907

>>6749895
Carbon steel.

>> No.6749910

>>6749907
Noice

>> No.6749912

>>6749895
If he is right handed get him a left handed one to even out the weight

>> No.6749915

For reasonably priced stuff? Like you're not into throwing away $1k on some custom crap? The answer is modern swedesh or japanese steel for stainless, and I imagine you don't want to get into carbon so let's just leave it at stainless.

German crap steel should be avoided, as should 420 and anything unspecified.

Everyone will say get him sharpening gear and they're not wrong. But you're buying a knife as a gift, so it's not like you have any common sense to begin with. Just get him a Misono UX10, no one would be unhappy with one of those, other than hipsters who need supersteel of the month. When the factory edge wears off he can detemper it with some high speed grinder, it's none of your concern.

>> No.6749926

>>6749915
To be honest, I don't want to spend more than $100 on a knife.
Good tip, though.

>> No.6749935

>>6749926
In that case get him a Tojiro DP, he still won't have the means to sharpen it but it will be better than anything he's used to, which will probably motivate him to figure out how to keep it sharp. Or maybe not. Again, none of your concern.

>> No.6749941

>>6749935
I don't think he'd like a Japanese-style knife. They don't have much of a curve and he mostly uses his for dicing.
Good for slicing, though.

>> No.6749953

Since this is a gift I'll spare you the practical answer, which is that any inexpensive high carbon chef's knife of reasonable quality (Chicago, Forschner/Victo, Farberware) are excellent knives for short money, but I will say this:

stay away from the much more expensive "pro-am" models you see given as wedding gifts and shit- Henckels, Global, Wusthoff, they're overpriced and shit tier designed for looks more than use.

Good mid range knives for a present include Shun, Tojiro (a gyuto is the same as a chefs knife)
>in b4 weebs errywhar
Sabatier Elephat or Sabatier Diamant are all superior tools for reasonable prices

Macs are nice but out of your range

here's a Shun Sora I would be fucking thrilled to get as a gift and it's under $100

http://www.cutleryandmore.com/shun-sora/chefs-knife-p129097?gclid=CKv08Y6ok8cCFcQUHwod6h0BWw

good luck

>> No.6749977
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6749977

>>6749941
>don't have much of a curve
Compared to what? What is a "japanese-style knife" to you? Do you even know what it means? Compare a shun chef's knife with a sabatier chef's knife, oh look, you were confused. It's ok, that's why you asked, right?
>he uses his knife for dicing
Ok? What does that have to do with anything? You mean he rock chops? Rock chopping is for idiots, just get him a slap chop if he's too much of a sperg to cut properly.

Anyway I was on the verge of suggesting a sab as a second alternative, but I think you'd be best off with a slapchop or an ulu.

>> No.6749981

I'm not even going to lie to you guys.
I'm running on a very tight budget, given that I'm still in college.
So if you could recomend something decent under $50, I'd be very thankful.

>> No.6749983

>>6749981
>niggerpoor
>/ck/
What a surprise!

>> No.6749990

>>6749977
Ok, then tell me what the proper cutting method is.
I don't know jack shit about cooking.

>> No.6750026

>>6749990

ignore him, he's a giant dickhead that smells bad. there are many different ways to cut and it is entirely based on training and personal preference.

if your bro spends a lot of time cooking then he's already knows the ropes and if you get him a style of knife he's not best pleased with, well, include the gift receipt and be done with it

>> No.6750043

>>6749981
>>6749981
>decent under $50,

this one if he's a weeb
www.amazon.com/Tojiro-DP-Gyutou-8-2-21cm/dp/B000UAPQGS/

this one if he's not

http://www.amazon.com/Chicago-Cutlery-Centurion-8-Inch-Chefs/dp/B000277Y96

this one if he's a frog

http://www.amazon.com/French-Sabatier-Forged-Carbon-Steel/dp/B007NZPYVK/

>> No.6751953

>>6749895
you should buy him a diamond steel as well so that he can look after his blade

>> No.6751977

http://www2.knifecenter.com/item/VN40026/Victorinox-Forschner-7-12-inch-Chefs-Knife-Rosewood-Handles

This looks decent, and the steel is good for someone who isnt rly used to caring for cutlery.

I have several victorinox at my summerhome, but with the fibrox handles, good beaters

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6751987

What does /ck/ think of Zwilling?

I'm in Germany right now, and I've been eyeing a Twin Profection Santoku (pic related) right now. It's on sale, for 77 EUR, which is around 88 bucks. Thing is I can get the same/similar model back home, but made in China.

>> No.6751994

>>6751987
Its a shitty knife.

>> No.6752014

>>6751994
Care to elaborate? I've had very good experiences with Henkels/Zwilling before.

My parents had a Knife set I used before moving out. They where sharp, kept the edge, ergonomic, and looked amazing.

I do agree that the Henkels international line is shit.

>> No.6752610

>>6751987
bump

>> No.6752628
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6752628

it's bad luck to give a knife as a gift

my mom went apeshit when my cousin gave her a knife

>> No.6752633

>>6752628

Well good thing luck is just a bullshit concept we made up then huh?

Also, the traditional response is to give the person giving the knife a coin so that it's a "transaction" if you believe in that kind of crap.

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>>6752633
>tip tip

>> No.6752668

>>6752628
It's also bad luck to gift a pet, but tell that to thousands of kids asking for a puppy.

>> No.6752686

>>6749981
http://www.amazon.com/Dexter-Russell-30403-iCut-Pro-Forged/dp/B004KRGEM2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1438902467&sr=8-2&keywords=iCut-Pro

Not the best, but he'll get some use out of it.
GOOD ENOUGH!

>> No.6752693

>>6749895
You're in the wrong place if your looking for advice /ck is only used for memeing

>> No.6752821

>>6751987
ok, so...

>> No.6752825

>>6752633
>the traditional response

That's something invented by one of those mail order knife catalogs back in the day. And by back in the day I mean like within your parents' lifetimes.

It's not "traditional" any more than secretary's day or everyone dress like a dracula day or the national no pants subway ride day is "traditional"

>> No.6752849

get a smaller knife. most people don't need huge chef's knives.

>> No.6752861

>>6749977
A Hitori Hanso

>> No.6752875

>>6751987
I've had a 8in zwilling chefs knife for about 5 years now. It's not great. Too heavy, not balanced very well, doesn't hold an edge for shit but it's a beast. I've upgraded since but I still keep the zwilling in my knife bag. I've used it to open cans, hack through bone & remove large fish heads. No chips, dings, dents or scratches.

>> No.6752885

>>6752825

Source?

>> No.6754639

>>6752825
this

>> No.6754646

>>6749895
Mora make excellent knives. Many pro chef's use them like that Jyro sushi guy.
>http://www.moraofsweden.se/products/cooks-knives

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6754651

This was posted a couple of years ago. Prices have increased.

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6754664

>>6754651
That would be good for the sticky anon.

>> No.6754671

>>6754651
post part two if you have it, please

>> No.6754674

>>6754664
Shutup with your stickies, newfag.

>> No.6754706

>>6754664
Please stop breathing