/ck/ - Food & Cooking

The only thing McDonalds doesn't accept EBT on is their salads, everything else, they accept it.

>>6670831
Thank god these welfare queens aren't using my tax dollars to buy gwynyth paltrow white girl food. If they didn't want to be poor they should just be less poor.

>>6670825
In most (or all?) of the US, no, I hear, however, that some parts of the country allow the use of EBT at some restaurants, though I don't know how true that is. I've found no evidence from any .gov site that confirms this.

>>6670831
That's a lie. If EBT can be used on salads and cold sandwiches at supermarkets and delis but not on any hot foods, why would the opposite be true for McDonald's?

>>6670851
Don't worry your retarded little head about it. It's a lie.

yuro here
what is EBT

>>6670908
electronic foodstamps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o64Fz-KW1Dk
heres a instructional video

>>6670908
only way niggers can buy food

>>6670909
ah, so in the US you give foodstamps (or EBT) instead of cash to welfare leeches to prevent them blowing their welfare on booze or drugs?

a nice idea actually
probably prevents some crack whores kids from starving because mommy smoked away all the welfare money

>>6670917
Food stamps don't prevent booze and drug trade, they just make nonperishable food items (like coke cans) the currency for it. It's a nice idea, but doesn't work.

What works is getting the damn people jobs. For that end, cash welfare works best, especially if you can still collect welfare when employed in a low-end job. It's basically minimum wage, but the cost is spread on all employers and employees and not just the low-end ones.

>>6670946
>>6670917

Giving poor people money rather than convoluted schemes like food subsidies where you can only eat {pick these 300 items} and not {pick these 300 items} has been proven to be more efficient in every way time and again. It's just that it's politically impossible to change over to that kind of system because when the inevitable bad apples abuse the system (as will happen with any system from soup kitchens all the way up to trillion dollar military contracts), people get a throbbing, itching, 15" vengeance boner thinking about kicking single mommies onto the street and forcing them to turn tricks to stay alive.

>>6670957
>these items not these other items hurpa derp
Except EBT is valid on all food or beverage purchases except hot (or once hot) food that can be eaten as-is/immediately nor alcohol.

For example, as said in >>6670875, EBT can be used to purchase prepared cold sandwiches, cold foods and heat-at-home foods but not prepared hot foods that are able to be eaten as-is/immediately.

Most major supermarkets in the United States have a hot-bar or similar set up for the purchase of hot food. Hot-bars are basically by-weight buffets rather than AYCE sorts and can include things like macaroni and cheese, hot dogs, hamburgers, fried chicken, fries, stewed or sautéed veg, meatloaf and more. Hot-bar foods are ineligible as EBT purchases because they are hot and can be eaten as-is/immediately. This seems arbitrary, but it's to prevent EBT being implemented by fast food corporations such as McDonald's in order to take advantage of the poor.

Cold prepared foods, such as sandwiches, deli pizzas, frozen meals and the like are perfectly eligible as EBT purchases. Some Subways take EBT.

>>6670946
>>6670917
Two common activities in poorer areas include selling dinners and selling foodstamps/EBT.
To sell foodstamps, a person on EBT rents their EBT card to someone they trust. If the card has $200 worth of foodstamps, the rented price is $100. The renter has then paid $100 to get $200 worth of food. The card-owner has profited $100. Once the purchases are done with, the renter returns the card to the card owner.
Selling dinners is more common among older black women than any other group. Someone selling dinners will spend all their foodstamps on bulk purchases of ingredients to keep costs down, cook several main courses, side dishes and desserts then sell platters at $5 each to purchasers. $200 worth of foodstamps can then earn about $1000, a profit of $800.
Most people selling dinners are not drug addicts or alcoholics. Most are just little old church ladies.

>>6671028
>hurpa derp
What is this, the front page of 2011 reddit?

Anyway my local store has signs that explicitly forbid EBT on fresh herbs, for example. No basil allowed, but poor people can buy all the frosted flakes they want.

Fucking stupid.

>>6671032
That varies between stores, I think. I was on EBT for awhile and not only could I buy fresh herbs, but the pots of dirt to grow them in

>>6671037
Well, so much for "all", then, Ms. Pao.

> not working the ever-loving fuck out of your welfare scum

sure it retarded welfare state in here

>>6670957
>kicking single mommies onto the street and forcing them to turn tricks
You're right, that sounds kinda hot

>>6671032
I don't believe you.
See, EBT is a federal thing, so all stores in all states that accept EBT have to follow the same rules. If fresh herbs are EBT-eligible in California they're EBT-eligible in North Carolina, too.
Furthermore, EBT can be used to purchase, as >>6671037 said, to buy things for growing your own food, as well, such as food crop seeds, veg and/or herb plant, fruit trees etc.
Some stores can choose not to accept EBT at all. However, if they accept EBT, they have to accept it for all items they sell that the federal government considers eligible as EBT purchases, such as herbs, frosted flakes and live lobster.

I've questioned the legality of the store in question doing this, but I've seen EBT used at a wet-market in my area to buy slaughtered-to-order chickens and rabbits, live hens (for eggs, I assume) and feed for chickens.

Similarly, I've seen some "ethnic" grocers illegally accept EBT for hot barbecue purchases, soap and baby formula (which is also ineligible for some reason).

>>6671071
I'm not going to walk down to the store and take a picture, so here's a link

http://www.salon.com/2014/05/03/stop_judging_me_for_shopping_with_food_stamps_partner/

Also it looks like it's WIC not EBT, but my original point stands >>6670957

>>6671080
And here are some amusing excerpts from the official rules:
>The following are not authorized: herbs and spices; creamed vegetables or vegetables with added sauces; mixed vegetables containing noodles, nuts or sauce packets, vegetable-grain (pasta or rice) mixtures; fruit-nut mixtures; breaded vegetables; fruits and vegetables for purchase on salad bars; peanuts or other nuts; ornamental and decorative fruits and vegetables such as chili peppers on a string; garlic on a string; gourds; painted pumpkins; fruit baskets and party vegetable trays; decorative blossoms and flowers, and foods containing fruits such as blueberry muffins and other baked goods. Home-canned and home-preserved fruits and vegetables are not authorized
>Mature legumes in dry-packed or canned forms may be purchased with the WIC food instrument only. Immature varieties of fresh or canned beans and frozen beans of any type (immature or mature) may be purchased with the cash-value voucher only. Juices are provided as separate food WIC categories and are not authorized under the fruit and vegetable category

>>6671080
WIC != foodstamps.

And I now suddenly woke up to why, as I said in >>6671071, baby formula is not EBT-eligible: to prevent overlap with WIC. WIC is used to purchase child-care products. I don't know if it can be used to buy diapers and prenatal vitamins and stuff like that or just for food meant for young children, though.

Also, I don't think WIC uses EBT cards. It uses coupons/vouchers, IINM. If that's the case, all food that's both not hot and not able to be eaten as-is/immediately is still EBT-eligible.

>>6671088
Again, WIC is not foodstamps/EBT.

This is like walking into the cinema and ranting that you think stageplays are stupid. They're similar, but two distinct and separate categories.

>>6671115
>>6671108
Now you're splitting hairs so you can win on a technical victory based on one-sided rules that you fabricated.

I said it's a stupid way to try to help poor people if you make super complicated regulations about 300 of this allowed and 300 of that not allowed. It just breeds inefficiency and encourages people to try to break the system. That it's better to just give out money and let them figure it out.

You then said it was wrong because EBT. I showed you how I was not wrong and now you're going off on some weird rant about Tom Stoppard.

Yes, I realize the thread is about EBT, my point was about these kinds of systems as a whole.

If you want to feel like you "won" because my post deviated ever so slightly from the question in the op, then fine, you win.

>>6671080

> unironically posting salon

>>6671128
>one-sided rules that you fabricated
No...
In case you missed the large OP pic at the top of the thread, it says "EBT" in large, friendly letters and not "WIC" nor "EBT and WIC." The OP text also asks for information on EBT-eligible purchases and not WIC-eligible nor EBT-or-WIC-eligible ones.
Clearly, you can read to some degree, so I don't need to explain to you how the letters E, B and T are not the same as W, I and C. Or do I?

Just accept that you're an idiot and be on your way.

>>6671155
Hey, like I said, you want to have a pissing contest over knowing the exact differences between these programs, you win. I'm just glad it doesn't affect me personally and I don't have to get personally butthurt when someone made a general comment about welfare and it didn't align perfectly with the direction I intended for the conversation to go. I'll continue to pay my taxes and you can actually get mad that someone occasionally had thoughts about you and your daily struggles.

Have some food. You look hungry.

>>6671176
Look at the OP. Now look at your post. Now back at the OP. Now back at your post. Now back at the OP. Do you see that the OP is about EBT? Yes? Good.
Now that it's been pointed out to you that your post doesn't refer to EBT, why are you still arguing? Your post was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_even_wrong
You even admitted in >>6671080 that you're a blithering 'tard by not only mistaking WIC for EBT but also by, as >>6671139 pointed out, posting a link to Salon.

And now, not only have you been proven to be a blithering 'tard, you're having yourself a 'tismtantrum on top of it because you were wrong. Jesus Christ, how embarrassing.

>>6671194
You're the only one having a tantrum here. Is it because you resent charity? I don't consider it welfare to be charity. It serves a useful purpose and I don't expect your gratitude.
>how embarrassing
Don't be. These are tough times.

>>6671205
>no u
Really?

i live in MA and if you go to the shittier towns around here KFC and mcdonalds accept ebt, also you can buy like warm food like pizza and nasty taquitos at the 7/11 right down the street from me.

this thread is playing out how ebt discussions usually play out on fox news

>>6671205

it serves a useful purpose to some people, to many it's just a crutch

one of my coworkers is barely even working now because they get cheaper rent from their low income housing if they work less hours,which is a similar idea

why work if you can get shit for free? If I quit my job now I'd make almost just as much money for doing nothing, at least for several months.

I believe you have to sit outside if you buy restaurant food (fast food or otherwise) with EBT in California.

>>6671071
Actually, formula is eligible for purchase with EBT.

>>6671248
das racis

>>6671223
So one person talking about some unrelated thing then spergraging when it's pointed out that he's an idiot?

>>6671241
So you work full time and earn minimum wage IE around $12K annually after tax? Because full time minimum wage income is minimally higher than EBT and SSI max payouts combined. And, in fact, if you're earning minimum wage and working full time, you'd be below the poverty line and therefore eligible for EBT and SSI anyway.

>>6671252
Waffle House is fine dining and your EBT narrative is special and deserves to be talked about with the full respect and dignity that it deserves, right? You're definitely not blowing a gasket over this. Everyone else is mad, you're as cool as a watermelon-cucumber salad that you're not allowed to buy on EBT (or is it WIC)

You'll need an ECG after eating too much Mcdonalds

>>6671267
see >>6671212

>>6671249
Same person but here's a link.
http://www.foodstamps.org/articles/article/2013/08/14/baby-formula-wic-and-snap

WIC is not EBT.
If you have a sick baby, WIC may not cover the type of formula you need even if you have a doctor's note, and you can only buy formula with WIC up until the baby is 12 months old.
EBT has no restrictions on what kind of formula you can buy, or for how long you can buy it.

>>6671280
See >>6671267

>>6671286
>WIC is not EBT
Carefuly there, buddy, lest you attract several posts of spergrage.

>>6671251
It's something to think about when you see a family eating outside and it's 100°F outside.

>>6671299
Seriously man, I never imagined there were people who took their hair-splitting welfare program trivia THIS seriously

If they have this much energy to freak out about EBT vs WIC why can't they just get a better job

yall really need to get a grip and stop being mad over the stupid flag. get over it. the flag killed people. the flag makes people poor. the flag causes aids. its gone now and the crime and murders and hate will stop. just sit back and relax now that the deed is done and thank the lord the flag is gone and crime is over in this country.

>>6671308
>Seriously man, I never imagined there were people who took their hair-splitting welfare program trivia THIS seriously
>If they have this much energy to freak out about EBT vs WIC why can't they just get a better job

If you're referring to me, >>6671286, I'm not taking it "that seriously". I corrected someone who was wrong about what you can and cannot buy with EBT.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzspsovNvII

>>6670916
Not true. I'm a white male. I use food stamps.

>>6671554
He said
>only way bigger can buy food
not
>only niggers can buy food with it

You're so dumb, you might as well be a nigger

>>6671265

I make more than that because the minimum wage is higher in my state, but I'm still not eligible even though 80% of my income goes toward my rent + utilities (and yes I'm serious and yes this is the cheapest place I could find)

>>6671205
Just face it, dude. You got BTFO.

>>6671080

>salon

literally kill yourself

>>6671588
>>6671596
>still throwing a tantrum hours later
You really take the whole welfare thing as part of your personal identity, don't you.

>>6670909
lol "instructional video"

>>6671599
hmm? that was my first post in this thread.

>>6671599

go back to salon faggot

>>6671606
>random websites from google trigger my class consciousness so hard that I get angry and shitpost for hours
How sad

>>6671615
>class consciousness

The guys you're replying to was wrong. You should go back to tumblr.

>>6671615

look at this nigger

>he keeps replying

>he's not fucking off to reddit

>>6671028
Why can't they then take $200 out of that $1000 and make another $1000 of dinners and get out of poverty that way?

>>6671155
Isn't EBT just the card used for all of them? The actual food stamp program is called SNAP, and then there's also TANF.

>>6671579
You can't even copy paste text correctly

>>6671870
Because they're lazy.

>>6671875
That's true, but for the purposes of the discussion, they're interchangeable. TANF is basically cash benefits.

>>6671891
>>6671870
You can only pull money off an ebt card of you have cash benefits.
If you just have food stamps, you can't use it at an atm to get money and you can't get cash back at stores.

I know bc I used to work in retail and had to constantly tell people they couldn't do that.

>>6671895
>but for the purposes of the discussion
Op asked about EBT, this is the thread where we talk about EBT and EBT only. Anyone else is a liberal elitist trying to tell us how to live our lives.

>>6670916
Rednecks too.

Bump for more welfare drama queens

even if I could buy mcdonalds with ebt back when I got food stamps I'd buy a stack of frozen patties and burger fixins
way better results and I don't have to sober up enough to get to the drive through

>>6670908
it's the american version of your continents past time of watching black men have sex with your wives.

Over the years I've learned you can basically buy whatever you want on EBT if you've got cash benefits or know how to work the system. If it's just EBT for food, it's non-hot foods. But you can use it to buy Red Bull and things like that...

It's complicated, has a lot of little rules and exceptions, and I've given up on getting mad about it.