/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6571554
Lack of competition.

>>6571554
Many of my favorite places are still cash only. Probably half the places I eat out at. (Brooklyn and Manhattan). I still use cash most of the time, so it isn't a problem.

they're laundering fronts for the owners drug trafficking

>>6571562
See, this is what I actually believe when I see a cash only place.

>>6571554
>they're probably a small local place
>cant afford the fees of credit cards
>checks bounce
>the only way to make sure the jews and niggers pay for their meal

>>6571554
Cash only is an excellent way to go. MORE restaurants need to do this.

Cash only means the owners aren't locked into the food service system. They don't buy expensive inventory control software, they them selves monitor what's going on front and rear of the house.

Debit/credit and computer systems are for people who manage chains or restaurants from afar. Not the sort of places I like to go.

could be worse, my stupid apartment doesn't take cash and if you want to use a card you have to do it online and they charge a ridiculous $30 processing fee

I'm usually too lazy to find my checkbook and write out the rent so I just buy moneyorders for it when at the supermarket.

>>6571571
wow you are just going to hate when the android singularity hits.

People do it to cheat on taxes. You can't hide how much money you're making if people are paying with plastic.

>>6571589
This.

GST.

They can charge for it but with no record of the sale they don't have to pay it forward. Therfor maximising profits.

>>6571571

I went to a local Cafe last week, so popular that you have to queue for 15 mins to get a table.

When I asked for a receipt, they told me "Sorry, our till doesn't print them"

I had to tell them that under Australian law they must produce a tax invoice on request. The manager came out with this pathetic piece of brown paper with the total amount of our order, no breakdown showing GST or anything.

Dirty cunts are most likely running all of the business through cash to avoid paying tax.

>>6571659
Does Australia have a version of the IRS? You might want to let them know...

>>6571569
>Racist faggot defending cheap ass owners that are inconveniencing everyone

Of course you are

If a place is cash only I don't go back

>>6571668
Yeah they do. Problem is, so many businesses are doing this shit and at the same time underpaying staff that the tax office won't act unless it's a big deal. Small businesses like this aren't on their radar because there's bigger ones doing worse things.

Tldr; tax office is under resourced so they don't have time to catch small fish and prosecute them

>>6571554
I live in the midwest, and I know of a few places.
2 breakfast places, and a a low priced Italian restaurant. All locally owned.

And there is an old man who owns a gun and bait shop, and the local bowling alley pro shop is cash only.

They all have ATMs to use.

The owners don't want to give up another 3% of their gross income?

>>6571674
>Tldr; tax office is under resourced so they don't have time to catch small fish and prosecute them

IRS is scarier than the FBI and Navy Seals in the USA.

The IRS is the most underfunded agency, so it makes sense for them to ignore what would be little payouts.

>>6571678
They should be like that here tbh, the government obviously doesn't realise how much money they are losing from all these Asian owned cafes that are exploiting the system.

If they put a bit of money into the tax office they could actually profit from the returns

Here in Canada all the family run Asian restaurants only allow cash. Very few will allow debit cards but that's very rare to find.

Asians are worse than jews when it comes to money pinching.

>>6571573
>this note is legal tender for all debts, public and private
If they don't take cash, the debt doesn't exist and your rent is legally free

>>6571694

>>6571698
That's what legal tender means. You owe a debt to them for your rent, if they don' t accept the legal tender for the debt, then it isn't a debt and you don't have to pay.

Places that have a minimum for credit card transactions piss me off even more, for some reason. I understand the economics of it, but if you make it inconvenient for me to buy a single black coffee, I'm not likely to come back when I feel like treating my entire immediate family for lunch.

>>6571718
Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Credit cards are a blight on the world economy.

Places have no exuse to not accept credit cards in 2015 with shit like square around.
They are either lazy or don't want to pay taxes.

>>6571700
I know you're only "pretending" to be retarded, but cash isn't the only form of legal tender, dumbass.

>>6571744
Some very small vendors operate on very tight margins, the transaction fee for even that might be significant. Not all businesses are created equal.

>>6571554
>mfw my local business don't take bit coin, doge coin or any form of cryptocurrency

>mfw I'm starving to death because I spent all my paper money on my bitcoin farming cluster

>>6571577
There will always be cash only places. Always.

>>6571751
There's a mexican dude here who sells tacos out of a food cart that uses one of those things.
You can't tell me a brick and mortar business can't afford them.

>>6571692
Where do you live? Where I live almost all restaurants have a debit machine. Debit or cash, no credit cards accepted.

>>6571758
......

Money only has value in those who deems it has value.

It's economics 101. That's the entire definition of fiat money. Cryptocurrency is just the newest form of fiat money.

I hope your mining take off though, good luck brosef.

>>6571748
But is IS the only form of legal tender a business is REQUIRED to accept.

Any business that says credit card or debit card only, no cash transactions, is breaking that law.

>>6571758
>2015
>mining

>>6571769
>Any business that says credit card or debit card only, no cash transactions, is breaking that law.

Not that other guy but I never thought about that.
Funny that comes up because my buddy is a big into that electronic vape shit, so I walked into a store that just popped up and he bought something.

They actually refused cash and only accepted card, they used an Ipad with a swipe device on it.

>>6571771
He doesn't even know why bitcoin is valuable and you think he really knows what's going on?

>>6571769
>But is IS the only form of legal tender a business is REQUIRED to accept.
Pic related. Actually, let me help you out there...

>http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/currency_12772.htm
>There is, however, no Federal statute mandating that a private business, a person, or an organization must accept currency or coins as payment for goods or services. Private businesses are free to develop their own policies on whether to accept cash unless there is a state law which says otherwise.

>>6571788
>He doesn't even know why bitcoin is valuable
but it isn't

>>6571783
bullshit.

Only country's central bank's bank note, aka money, is the legal currency. Visa is a fucking private business service, debit is a private business service, cheque is a private business bank note, direct transfer is a transection between two private businesses which is also a private service.

There's no fucking way there's any law that says business MUST accept payment other than cash. Unless that none cash transfer is a government central bank provided.

>>6571792
see
>>6571789

>>6571789
So does this mean I can start a restaurant and make people pay me in bees?

>>6571744
They need to run convincing ad campaigns in Spanish, Arabic, Mandarin, and Hindi.

>>6571837
Legally, yes.

>>6571837
Legally, yes, although I doubt you'll get any traffic at all...

>>6571554

Tax evasion.

It's a huge fucking problem with the local Chinese-speaking population but goes mostly unnoticed by everyone else.

>>6571837
You'd have a hell of a time collecting on that

>>6571673
>being mad for being a nigger
take it up with god nigger.

>>6571882
this. niggers and nigger sympathizers have completely the wrong attitude

I've been to a few places that were cash only,
a crappy bar
a donut shop
a chinese take out place

i know they are doing it so they can lie about their incomes.

>>6571674
I'm surprised, here in the UK it feels like they're always after the small fish rather than the bigger ones doing worse things because it's easier to get money from them.

>>6571691
I wonder how many of these places are Asian owned... The only place I've seen that's cash only (and not because the network is down) is this donut shop. Amazing donuts though and nice people. Just not sure if it's drugs or tax evasion. They're on the edge of "Chinatown".

>>6571764
You underestimate the popularity of taco carts. People think food tastes better when it's served out of something with wheels

>>6571980
More likely they're doing it so they don't have to pay the fees for credit cards you stupid faggot

>>6571673
>someone makes a on-PC joke
>RACIST!
>BIGOT!
>PAUL!
>ANOTHER RACIST!

but seriously, if you've worked in the industry, those two groups, especially blacks, don't tip.
Yuros even tip better(not all the time, just when they consider that it might be local custom)

Prissy bitches in this thread
Just carry a couple bucks with you, you dumb mother fuckers.

>>6571554
Some of the best Asian restaurants I've been to accept cash only. They're little shops on the outskirts of the Asian district of my city and I don't care if those shops are a front for the triads or Yakuza as long as they keep on serving decent bowls of mala knife shaved noodles or tonkutsu ramen, respectively.

>>6572186
Change is inconvenient, which is why I don't like carrying cash if I can avoid it.

>>6572190
When I read "Change is inconvenient", I thought you were posting about how you support restaurants who refuse to change from being cash-only.

>>6572194
No. I avoid cash-only places if I can. The food may be good, but it's not worth carrying around cash.

>>6572195
I got that from the rest of the post, I just thought it was amusing that that opening could be used for either argument, depending on what 'change' you meant.

Generally I don't mind change, I just dump it into the self-service checkout when I go shopping, so I don't have to go through the embarrassment of handing it to an actual human being.

>>6571837
Lunch is on Oprah

>>6572233
I will never not love this gif.

>>6571675

You're such a little bitch, didn't get to claim your coffee on expenses huh?

Slightly off-topic, but could you avoid paying taxes by running your business on a barter system

>>6572267
If you don't want to make any money at all, sure.

>>6571765
Not that anon but I suspect that he, like me, lives on the West Coast (Vancouver) or around there. No Asian has accepted plastic here ever—in my experience—except dine-in restaurants, and even then it is about 50/50. Most of the places are take-out and cash-only.

>>6572280
UBCfag here. Richmond has some godly Asian places that you should try. Gyo-O by Aberdeen station is one of the best ramen shops I've been to in Van, and you can get a bowl of noodles for 11$ with double noodles for 3$ more. The downside is that they only take cash.

>>6572301
Thanks for the recommendations, I'm new to the area. Since I'll be in Richmond on Sunday, I'll go check out that shop. Anything on the menu you recommend in particular?

>>6572308
Are you going to the Richmond night market perchance?

I always get the seafood tonkutsu ramen (tonkutsu is Japanese for "pork bone broth") though their garlic miso and oyster milk ramen are pretty good as well. If you're slightly more adventurous that place also sells "octopus balls" and green tea/red bean ice cream.

http://www.yelp.ca/biz/gyo-o-richmond?osq=Best+Ramen

>>6572315
I've already been to the night market, actually. It was okay if you want some cheap knock-off goods. Food was great but pricey, everything was six dollars, basically, so mileage varied but honestly I don't think I'm going back... I'd rather just go to a nice shop for food, and I'm not interested in the shops.

Odd enough for someone who loves Asian food, I actively can't handle seafood, so I'll be avoiding those options at the shop, but thanks for the link and I'll be sure to enjoy something from there on Sunday.

>>6571577

/thread

>>6572330
>can't handle seafood

Oh that's a bummer. Most Asian cuisine incorporates seafood of some sort. Do you just not like the fishyness? If you absolutely can't take the taste/smell of seafood then go for the plain tonkutsu or miso ramen. Alternatively they serve rice bowls (called dons) which you can get with chicken, beef, or pork.

Also the night market is more of a tourist trap. I've only been there once and I wouldn't go back again, though the rotato was a bit of a novelty.

Good luck anon!

>>6572349
Yeah, it felt like a tourist thing. Just a novelty trip, took the family out. Didn't get a rotato, wanted one but the line was just silly.

I'm not new to Asian cuisine at all; the wife's family is entirely Asian, I've had a lot of experience—I'm sorry to have given the impression of someone that needed the dishes explained to them; rather, I was just wondering about places to go locally, and then which dishes you thought were the best there. Thank you for the good intentions behind explaining, though, I'm not usually big on plain miso ramen but I could go for some of that, and I fucking love me a big-ass rice bowl. Thanks a bunch for pointing the place out, fellow BC-fag.

>>6571554
>he wants to pay for the privilege of borrowing someone else's money
>wants the restaurant to do the same because he don't wanna carry a few bills

grow up faggot

>>6572400
No problem. Do you have any other culinary interests? I'd be glad to point you to places around Vancouver. There's a few good Indian places that serve dosas (think of it as a crispy sourdough pancake stuffed with curry/gravy), one particularly well known Japanese place near Burrard Station that serves ramen in a bamboo charcoal soup, and then there are a bunch of craft breweries in East Van if you're into that sorta stuff.

>>6572422

>not being old enough to know what a debit card is

visit germany
virtually all cafes and restaurants (other than big international chains) accept cash only
there's just no interest in taking the cards

>>6572438
>ramen in a bamboo charcoal soup
Dang, I can't decide if that would be amazing or not.

I'll take any recommendations for any kind of food; I'm not picky. I've been thinking of trying Thai and Indian food for sure, but really, anything nonflyover would be nice, as I moved here from a smaller city without much variety (it was 99% white without any exaggeration)

>>6571554
because you actually have to pay a fee for using credit card services, which small places can't afford if they want to keep their price low.

>>6571577
>I believe my latest phone operator gimmic, you are wrong

Literally the king of goys.

These threads are always hilarious because they bring out the spergs who don't understand money but still have very strong opinions about financial products

>>6571850
Taco shops are even worse than the Chinese restaurants when it comes to tax evasion.

Having a cash-only business also makes it easy to launder drug money.

I've been to a bar that would not take cash. They suggested I buy a prepaid card from Walgreens then come back and pay. I just left.

>>6571751
It's still better to get 80% of a sale than 0%. I don't carry cash so if you don't take credit you don't get my business.

>>6571554
Do you want the money going to your local businesses or the IRS/Social Security?

I bought a refrigerator, washer, and dryer from a "scratch and dent" store recently. I went in and said, "I have cash," before saying anything else.

Free delivery, free installation, no sales tax, and 10% off next purchase.

Money talks, and cash wins every single time.

>>6572524
>i can't imagine a future that's different in any way
>we've always had cell phones and computers and muh chicken tendies, r-right? JEWS

>>6571554
They sjoulf also offer other payment methods

>>6571554
Literally anywhere outside of the credit card obsessed US or EFTPOS obsessed Australia.

Try going to Asia some time OP.

>>6572521
i understand this and am fine with it. i TRY to pay with cash at small businesses. i just wish they would either include tax in their prices or set their prices to come to an even number after tax. because after tax, a 99 cent item then becomes a 1.07 item which, in terms of cash (money in pocket) is now a $2 item. of course, i have change but most people don't carry lots of change around. so i'm out $2 in bills and have loose change that might become useable at some distant point in the future when i accumulate enough and go to the bank/coinstar.

>>6573334
>try going to Asia
I did two tours of Afghanistan mate.

>>6573339
thank u 4 ur service ;_;7

>>6571654
My you are cleeeeeVer! Fuck I wish I had your wit, your charm too and your sagacity. I really do.

>>6571768
It's a re-purposed fold farm, I was kidding about the starving part but I appreciate your well-wishing.

>>6572129
And when it's cheap. And the people are nice.

Nothing better than 5, 1.25 chicken tacos with all the onions and cilantro, a bit of salsa verde, slices of cucumber, served up by a nice older lady who wishes you a good day. Pay her husband and get a Mexican coca cola while you are at it, on ice...

If it were a walkup stand, it would be just as good.

I live in a low pop suburb (just over 2000) of a major city and I have never, ever seen this here. Nor have I ever seen it when travelling.

>>6571748

He's not actually wrong. He should take the matter up with the landlord and/or managing body. It stands in legal conflict under US law.

>>6571673
>RACIST
>businesses have an obligation to be convenient t me or they shouldn't exist
Found the liberal.

>>6573110

>It's still better to get 80%

No? What if their profit margin is in that 20% and the resources they used for your meal netted a loss? They'd be better off turning you away and saving the ingredients.

>>6574451

>>6574454

You buy something that costs, say twenty bucks. The time and resources to put that together cost them eighteen bucks. The last two bucks are scooped away by the bank for processing fees. They made zero dollars and wasted time getting the product to you.

They switch to cash only and profit two dollars for that same sale.

>>6571554
>How the hell are there still cash only restaurants in 2015?

because they dont want to pay taxes

/thread

seriously though if greeks are in charge then there are two cash registers... one for money they report and one for the money they dont

>>6571769
yeah, no, private companies can set standards. a common one is "no bills larger than 20s."
It says on a hundred "legal tender" same as the others, but they can do this.

My personal favorite explanation (and the way I explained it to my cashiers and customers when I managed a convenience store) is "we can be obligated to accept it as payment. We are not obligated to make change. So if you really want to pay us 100 bucks for a pack of cigarettes, I guess we'll let you."

>>6574461
You buy something that costs, say twenty bucks. The time and resources to put that together cost them eighteen bucks. The customer would like to buy it, but doesn't carry cash. They made zero dollars.

>>6574461
that's why you either rise your prices or add the credit card fee on the customer
many stores have a whatever% fee if you decide to pay by credit card

>>6571554
I guess some places have standards. People who pay for things with credit cards are invariably cocksuckers. Invariably.

Legal tender only applies to debts.

If someone owes you money you have to accept cash for it or you have no legal claim to it.

For trade, you can accept whatever the hell you want.

cash shouldn't even exist at all in 2015

>>6571760
>There will always be cash only places. Always.
Yes goy, you've nothing to worry about.

>>6571554
I own a small business that is cash only that's the way everything should be in my opinion

>>6571554
Donut shop near my house is cash only. People regularly buy 2 or 3 donuts and nothing else. Allowing them to pay with card would mean a charge of less than $3. The store would literally lose money after the card fees; it would be better for them to just give away the donuts.

So they're cash only.

>>6575228
> All trade should be monitored and tithed by parasitic financial institutions!
> I want literally everything I do to be accessible by authorities and every business without exception to be forced to share their profits with the banks and credit companies!
> Oh g-d, why can't I stop sucking (circumcised) cock?
This is you.

>>6574943

They made zero dollars anyway in my hypothetical, but they wasted materials and time that could have made them two dollars. Why would they serve a customer that doesn''t net a profit for them?

>>6575219

I guess the price increase would be enough to lose them customers?

>>6571744
>saving an image twice

TIL people will avoid amazing food because they are too stupid to find/operate an ATM

>>6576156
>implying I want to support greedy shithead tax dodgers when I myself am a lawful taxpaying citizen

immigrants go

>>6576163
>2015
>paying taxes

feels good to be sovereign

>>6572267
That's what pawn shops do somewhat,
Also flea market vendors do this shit all the time. Pirated DVDs with printed covers at 5$ a pop. Dumb nuggets buy them though. I'm not sure how they dont get vanned.

>>6576163
> paying taxes
I bet you pay for winRAR too

>>6575975
100% agree.

Business should be conducted in the manner the people involved like best.

As for alllll those dweebs whining (again) about taxes, and fuck does /ck/ ever wet their pants over taxes, any business can be audited. You can only cook the books so far.

If the tax people truly suspect shenanigans, they park a traffic counter in the area to see how many go through the door in a day. Then they talk to suppliers, etc. They can easily estimate how much a business takes in.

Then the come visit and you'd better have your books in order as required by law.

>>6575938
Go suck a bag of dicks, you fascist.