/ck/ - Food & Cooking

I am from Italy.
I don't mind if someone says "carbonara with cream." If they say "carbonara" and say that cream is standard, that would be wrong, though nothing word arguing about.

I think most of us consider carbonara and carbonara with cream to be two separate dishes. Kinda like, for Americans, how a quarter-pounder and a quarter-pounder with cheese are two separate menu items at McDonald's or a Whopper and Whopper with cheese at Burger King.

>>6514121
>muh italian lard sauce authenticity
get out

>>6514139
>word arguing about
Err...
>worth arguing about
Fix'd.

>>6514147
>>6514139
/thread

Is the type of cheese important? I used to use Grana Padano but it switched to fake Feta because it's cheaper.

>>6514189
I usually use more than one type of cheese. I use aged cheddar and parmesan, I'd use something other than cheddar if all the italian cheeses weren't so god-damn expensive where I shop.

>>6514121
>if you use cream you're wrong.
it's a fucking cream based dish you ignoramus.
This sort of shite trolling is why /ck/ needs a deicated janitor.
Stop spreading bullshit, there's enough on this board already.

I've made it both ways, and I don't believe the difference in taste is significant enough to warrant so much constant debate.

People will invariably alter recipes to their liking. It doesn't stop being X. It doesn't start being "X with ingredient I don't like."

>>6514241
If you say that cream is standard, that would be wrong, though nothing worth arguing about.

Can I replace the pork with something else. Please no bully.

>>6514121
Cream or no cream, you should not be getting carbonara out of a bottle.

>>6514409
nothing else will taste the same, just make a different egg or cream based pasta sauce

In honor of this thread I will make a Waldorf Salad this evening using almonds and spinach.

And I will insist on calling it a Waldorf Salad, become extremely pissy when opposed on the subject.

>>6514409
It might be interesting with roast lamb.

>>6514514
I once had a Spinach Waldorf (as it was listed on the menu).
Had it been listed as "Waldorf" and they brought out this plate of spinach and fruit, I'd have been upset. But they called it for what it was, so I was mostly fine. I say "mostly" because they did two other changes: instead of mayonnaise, it was obviously some sort of mayo-like/mayo-based thing, like Salad Cream or Miracle Whip. And the apples were dried rather than fresh.
But the fact that they called it 'Spinach Waldorf' rather than regular Waldorf made it okay, IMO.

On the opposite side of the fence, I once went to a place for brunch. I ordered an omelette with ham and emmental. When it came out, it wasn't an omelette at all. It used to be, but stopped being an omelette one once they sliced it into strips and tossed it with microgreens and a warm bacon dressing. None of these things were mentioned on the menu. That pissed me off. My ex and I got up and left without a word.
We went to dimsum thereafter, instead.

>>6514549
I agree 100%. If the menu listing is accurate, then I'm also fine with variations on a theme. However, I've sent cottage pies back to the kitchen because they were listed as Shepards and have done the same with poutine when it arrived laden with pizza /cheddar cheese mix, was toasted in a pizza oven.

It's all about accurate billing.

>>6514626
Exactly.
If dish X has a particular definition set by its originator and someone makes dish X but ignores that definition, insisting that it's still dish X, I get a tad miffed.

Another example is this time I ordered a decaf iced tea at a café in Austin because I had too much coffee that morning and just wanted to sit in air conditioning for a short while before venturing back out into the ridiculous heat.
The iced tea wasn't iced tea. It was agua de jamaica. It was nice and I enjoyed it, but I was a little peeved because I was expecting a regular black tea. I mentioned it to the counter, saying that I was simultaneously annoyed but also pleasantly surprised because I actually prefer agua de jamaica and asked why I didn't get what I ordered. They said that they don't do decaf tea and that the policy is to use agua de jamaica as decaf.
Why the place had "decaf iced tea" on the menu, I'll never understand.

I guess their half-caf iced tea might be half agua de jamaica, half black tea. That might be good.

>>6514121
>If you use cream you're wrong
Then I don't want to be right

>>6514642
Perfectly fine and respectable answer, I'd say, even if I prefer it without cream, I don't care much how you eat it. If you prefer it with cream, by all means, make it with cream. Enjoy and be happy, friend.

>>6514669
CANCER
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>>6514678
You can enjoy that, too, if you want? That'd be a weird thing to add to a carbonara, though.

>>6514669
Fuck off.

>>6514682
Also a weird thing to add to carbonara, but by all means, enjoy it and be merry.

>>6514549

Autism.

>>6514189
>>6514208

>using feta or cheddar in carbonara

pecorino is the best cheese for this, but parmesan also works just fine.

>>6514788
That doesn't even make sense.
>o 0 O (i do hope this poor lad isn't retarded)

>>6514873
There's a difference between cheese that costs €4/kg and cheese that costs €32/kg.