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When will /ck/ learn?

>ReneRedzepiNoma[S] 273 points 3 days ago
>Mexican! Mexican cuisine to me is on par with the 'classic' greats-- French, Japanese, Italian... but unfortunately it's often viewed instead as quick, cheap eats. I find that to be wrong.

>> No.6448134

Esas enchiladas se ven ricas pero las que hace mi jefesita lo son aún mas.

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>>6448131

>Q: What's an underrated destination that offers up some of the best culinary experiences, but lacks notoriety?

>A: "Mexico is much, much, better then people give it credit for. The food is getting very sophisticated and really amazing. As much as we claim to love Mexican food, real Mexican food is hugely misunderstood and underrated."

>>6448134
What kind of enchiladas does she make?

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>>6448137

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>>6448146

>> No.6448175

I actually made enchiladas today but figured it was too common to post a recipe. I guess I will next time . . . . too much Latino food comes out of cans or jars.

>> No.6448494

>>6448175
if you're making good latino food with shit that can be found in the states people will love you.

i would recommend not using a tripcode though, otherwise your threads will devolve into a flame war over the merits of tripcodes (there aren't any)

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When will /ck/ learn?

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>>6448131
>>ReneRedzepiNoma[S] 273 points 3 days ago
>>Mexican! Mexican cuisine to me is on par with the 'classic' greats-- French, Japanese, Italian... but unfortunately it's often viewed instead as quick, cheap eats. I find that to be wrong.
>leddit
end yourself

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bump

>> No.6448850

>>6448131
I'm not following since I've only come to /ck/ recently so can you answer the following?

-Does /ck/ have a problem with Mexican food?
-Who is this Rene person?

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>>6448841
>>6448850
Tex Mex ruined Mexican food's image. Although tex mex is just ok, but its just bar food


chef of the best restaurant in the world.

>> No.6448931

>>6448859
In that case I agree with him. I love Mexican food but Tex Mex isn't my thing. When people point me to their favorite "Mexican" place it isn't Mexican at all.

>> No.6449000

>>6448850
Ck loves Mexican food

>> No.6449120

Noma is ground breaking but it's not food people eat.

I like the concept and i'd love to eat there but I feel like it's more of a vaguely regionally defined tour of the chef's own mind.

When you eat street food you're not just consuming a good meal, you're understanding a living part of that culture.

My favorite chefs are the ones that embrace terroir and just try and make good, honest food. Even the chef from El Bulli, as modernist and funky as his cuisine is, has a deep rooted love for traditional spanish cuisine.

If I could eat at any restaurant right now, it'd probably be Fergus Henderson's "St. John"

the food subreddits are such stupid criclejerks they make ck look like the league of nations.

>> No.6449150

Here's the thing, the traditional greats i.e. French, Japanese and Italian are only so highly rated because of the presentation. This is not a slight at the cuisines all 3 are great cuisines in their own right but that's not why they're highly rated. Chinese has a far richer tradition and variation in technique and flavour than Japan could ever hope for but it lacks presentation and thus doesn't count as a great to most.

Same with Indian, most chefs agree that it's a great cuisine richer in tradition and understanding of flavour than most. But you'll struggle to find 1 michelin starred indian restaurant in most cities. Again this is because of presentation. On the other hand a completely uninspired (to me) cuisine like scandinavian will have multiple restaurants because of how well it presents.

Now Mexican cuisine not only suffers from the Indian and Chinese problem of bad presentability but unlike those two it doesn't have a millennia old tradition to pique people curiosity after they've had a few dishes.

>> No.6449172

>>6449150
>millennia old tradition to pique people curiosity after they've had a few dishes.
I thought the higher end, more exclusive Mexican dishes used more pre-Hispanic influences/ingredients.

>> No.6449239

>>6449150
http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/RL/00400

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>>6448131
>japanese
>'classic' greats

I guess if you like everything to be flavorless, wet squishy stuff, sure.

>> No.6449304

>>6449292
IMO it should be french, italian,chinese and to a certain extent, Mexican.

India is up there too

>> No.6449310

>>6449304
I honestly don't understand what the big deal with Italian food is. Lots of carbs and boring meat dishes. Greek is infinitely more interesting to me.

And French is overrated imo, but it's still solid.

>> No.6449354

>>6449310
While I agree on Greek I think Italian is pretty good.

>> No.6449381

The best cuisines are Russian, British and Indian.

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>>6449381
>The best cuisines are Russian, British

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Mexican food mainly consist of 3 aspects of a food culture but the back bone is traditional/comfort food.

something like this :

http://mexkitchen.bl.ogsp.ot.com/2015/03/xiii-encuentro-de-las-cocineras.html

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>>6449546
Then you have street food, which alone is as good as it gets

http://www.foodhoe.com/2014/04/baja-road-trip-epic-seafood-in-ensenada/

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>>6449557
lastly is the restaurant/dining scene. it has been pretty big over the last 15 years. some don't like it, but it can be convenient since you get the best of both worlds


http://insert-food.bl.og.spot.com/2013/01/quintonil-mexico-city-mexico.html

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pibil master race

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>>6450302
>>6450302
>pibil master race
get real
pic related

>> No.6450689

>>6448131
>it's often viewed instead as quick, cheap eats
Because it usually is, along with Chinese. Where I live, I could throw a rock and hit at least 3 Mexican joints of varying quality. That's not even counting pseudo-Mexican like Taco Bell or Chipotle. There are also high-end, expensive Mexican restaurants around here, too.

>> No.6450691

>>6448547
>telling rene redzepi he's wrong about food because of the platform he's using

ha

hahah

haha

>> No.6450694

>>6448850
chef of san pellegrino's #1 restarant in the world

his shit is pree tite

>> No.6450706

>>6449150
>i've never owned or even worked in any kind of restaurant that was critically acclaimed, michelin starred or otherwise

>however, let me tell you about how all those people who do own and operate restaurants that have received international recognition, are completely wrong.

>you see, they've allowed themselves to be fooled! their food isn't good, it's only pretty! it's all so simple, why couldn't they see it?

>my superior intellect and and taste

>> No.6450714

>>6450678
>pibil parace mejor

lo siento, hermano

>> No.6450719

>>6450678
whats your recipe

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rajas con crema is pretty good too

>> No.6450768

>>6450760
That's not rajas con crema, that's like....rajas con pollo con crema, which is....wrong.....

>> No.6450771

>>6450768
but isn't rajas con crema just the name of the sauce? its like saying mole without naming the protein or whatever its on top of

>> No.6450831

>>6448931
Anything north of the border (well, more than 50 miles north) is completely different than what you find in Mexico. Also, Mexican food varies by region, just like all foods do. TeX Mex may not be someone's idea of good, but then the stuff they serve in New Mexico as Mexican food isn't that great either...

Should just say "Mexican style", I guess. I'm no purist, but I have eaten my fair share of food at friend's abuelas or Tia's homes as well as in Mexico to know the difference... it's all good. Home made shit is never a disappointment, TeX Mex or authentic Oaxacan or any other.

>> No.6450906

ITT: good cuisine = lots of fat and tons to spices to mask low quality ingredients.
aka: chinese, indian, mexican and everything but Japanese, French and Italian

>> No.6451132

so people pay thousands to hop on a plane and just have an experience in noma? and not for the taste of food? someone enlighten me

>> No.6451188

>>6450771
Rajas con crema is a stand alone side dish. at least that is how it is always served where I live in Mexico. It is always in a pot luck or party buffet situation.

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>>6451188
There is also another dish similar to rajas con crema, except it is blended and used on seafood. pretty good to be honest.

>> No.6452681

bump

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chilaquiles master race reporting in

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>>6452993
>chilaquiles master race
TLACOYOS you mean tlacoyos right

>> No.6453505

>>6449120
https://youtu.be/p34J2S6bcCc

This is the "food" they serve at noma. Would you really care about the opinion of some fag that serves this to you with a straight face?

>> No.6453513

There's nothing wrong with being 'cheap eats' though.

>> No.6453978

>>6453462
that's a quesdilla faggot

>> No.6454032

>>6453513
Mexican food is much more than that.

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Some Ceviche with camote and corn i ate the other day

>> No.6454080

>>6454075
wrong thread amigo

>> No.6454157

>>6454075
that's peruvian

>> No.6454578

lets bump this

>> No.6454591

Has anyone ever tried those ant egg things that are a delicacy in Mexico? How are they served? I have heard they are delicious and I'd love to try some. I've had crickets a few times and they were just okay.

>> No.6454598

>>6454578
How many times has the same fag been bumping this thread?

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>>6454080
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> Anonymous 04/25/15(Sat)02:34:41 No.6448131▶>>6448137 >>6448547 >>6448850 >>6449292 >>6450689
>When will /ck/ learn?
>>ReneRedzepiNoma[S] 273 points 3 days ago
>>Mexican! Mexican cuisine to me is on par with the 'classic' greats-- French, Japanese, Italian... but unfortunately it's often viewed instead as quick, cheap eats. I find that to be wrong.
>>>
> Anonymous 04/25/15(Sat)02:38:09 No.6448134▶>>6448137
>Esas enchiladas se ven ricas pero las que hace mi jefesita lo son aún mas.
>>>
> Anonymous 04/25/15(Sat)02:41:46 No.6448137▶>>6448146
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>>>6448131 (OP)
>>Q: What's an underrated destination that offers up some of the best culinary experiences, but lacks notoriety?
>>A: "Mexico is much, much, better then people give it credit for. The food is getting very sophisticated and really amazing. As much as we claim to love Mexican food, real Mexican food is hugely misunderstood and underrated."
>>>6448134
>What kind of enchiladas does she make?
>>>
> Anonymous 04/25/15(Sat)02:49:48 No.6448146▶>>6448151
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>>>6448137
>>6454157
Glad to see that you guys could tell the diference, i was looking for Mexican Ceviche and instead got into a Peruvian restaurant, what a nice suprise tbh, it tasted like "Aguachile", delicious stuff, they also had some chicken with milk and potatoes, next time i will try that.

Also here some aguachile

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>>6454591
With butter, serranos and epazote is the norm. More fancier restaurants like to add some vanilla or alcohol . The flavor is kind of nutty and it isn't overpowering , which makes it one of my favorite grub bites

>> No.6454630

>>6454624
That looks delicious, unfortunately I haven't tracked down any places near me that serve it. I'm fucked I guess.

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>>6454618
aguachile is pretty one of the best things ever when done right.there's a distinct flavor in the aguachiles that I can't recall though. Maybe it is Worcestershire sauce. and the darker versions are much better than the green ones.

>> No.6454661

>>6454630
Where you from ese? Depending on your area, you might be able to find crickets..

>> No.6454688

>>6454661
Los Angeles of all goddamn places. I have had crickets, those aren't too tough to find.

>> No.6454723

>>6454688
You would have go to Mexico for escamoles then. Your best bet would be a 2 hr trip to Tijuana and buy some fresh escamoles in Mercado Hidalgo or have some prepared in the restaurants.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StX4jSu5TeQ