/ck/ - Food & Cooking

best dip right here

Can of refried beans
Block of velveeta
tub of salsa
pound of ground beef

My mother in law makes this. It's godawful, but people seem to go bananas for it.

>canned chicken
>cream of cheddar soup
>cream of chicken soup
>Frank's Red Hot

"buffalo chicken dip"

In Ohio we make "buckeyes". It's basically a peanut butter filling encased in chocolate. Different from a reese cup, as the peanut butter filling is creamier and more dense.

We also make sauerkraut balls, which for some reason people from outside of Ohio seem to never have heard of. They are delicious. It's just sauerkraut, corned beef (or any left over chopped up beef) smashed together, breaded, and deep fried. Some people add potatoes, cheese, bacon, green onions.

Is America the Midwest of the world?

>>6407234
kind of

Easily the worst food culture in the states

>>6407239

I would say it's the least cultured food in the states, but not the worst per se. Definitely very unhealthy.

Food in the deep south can be bad, as far as combining things like sweet potatoes and marshmallows. Pecan pie is like eating overly sweet booger pie. And I may be adventurous with trying different meats, but I will pass on possum, raccoon, squirrel, and anything else that largely subsists on garbage.

>>6407192

For some unknown reason, Ohioans also eat their chili over spaghetti noodles. I've never tried it, but it sounds terrible.

We also put beans in our chili, which I am told is a sin elsewhere.

>>6407255
>I would say it's the least cultured food in the states,
well it is the culture of affluent white people, so it is technically the most advanced, but I assume what you mean by culture is food from poor areas which seems like a silly definition but absolutely true that the midwest has little of that ttraditionally

But you can almost without exception buy any kind of food found in america in any american city so it doesn't really matter

>>6407155
>flyover states.

Super secret Midwest burger sauce:

>Mustard
>Mayonnaise
>Ketchup

>mix together, done

>>6407267
>well it is the culture of affluent white people
>affluent white people
>in the Midwest
Nigga those people are mostly farmers and ranchers (outside the large cities of course).

>>6407287
>outside the large cities of course).
Are you confusing the midwest with the western plains?

The midwest is a mostly urban/suburban population, and by far the richest part of the country besides New England.

and most of the remaining farmers are very well off, rural poverty is pretty much unheard of in the midwest unlike in the south and the west

Have you literally never been even close to the midwest?

>>6407267

When I think of food unique to the Midwest, I think of the types of food that people in the country make and eat.

I view it as being less cultured because we either tend to re-vamp food in odd ways from other cultures, or create new things that are starchy, fried, or just really bad for you.

You're right, though. Anywhere you go, there is a variety of food to be found as long as you're near a fairly urbanized area. In the small town I live in though, it's primarily diners, fast food, bars, and really bland Mexican/Chinese/Italian food. Unless you drive an hour out of town, good/diverse restaurants are few and far between. You exhaust your options pretty quickly.

>>6407297
non-midwesterners BTFO

>>6407297
also, population density for reference

>>6407371
Cincinnati is basically the south

>>6407416
Detroit is basically the south. Cincinatti is basically Pittsburgh after being drained of its life force by a Sailor Moon villain.

>>6407324
I am not sure how much of the cuisine is unique to the midwest but the food produced there is usually outstanding, second only maybe to that from California/PNW. I was completely blown away by the stuff I got at farmer's markets in Michigan.

>>6407428
Detroit is like the south in that it is poor and black, but otherwise not so much, especially when you consider the entire metro area
Cincinnati is literally a cross a river from fucking Kentucky and a large chunk of its metro population actually lives in the south

You flyovers are disgusting

Midwesterners are "cut of your jib" people, they lay down the seed, and, if you don't like it, leave.

>>6407157
Even just the velveeta and salsa heated in a crock pot is great, I always make that for sporting events. Adding ground beef sounds like a good idea though

>>6407176
that does sound shitty, especially canned chicken. I've made good buffalo chicken dip before though with cream cheese, actual chicken breast and hot sauce. Dip pita chips in it

>>6407470
I usually add browned sausage, either smoked or something spicier like a chorizo.

>>6407450
>being afraid of white people

Michigan pasties are pretty good for being close the most basic thing you could make.
ground beef
rutabaga
onions
potatoes
shortening based pie crust
salt and pepper

I've played around with em a lot making ones that include rosemary, red wine vinegar, garlic and carrots. Still basic as hell but way more flavorful that the ones they make for the tourists.

>>6407155
>(SECRET INGREDIENT) 1/4 cup Miracle Whip

You'd be surprised how many flyov-midwestern people actually think like this.

>>6407590
yeah, they only have miracle whip in the midwest, its not like they literally sell more in California than anywhere in the midwest

>>6407542
you mean white trash

>>6407604
There are few poor white people in the midwest

>>6407608
>michigan is the most unemployed state
yeah I'm sure they're mostly in good financial standings.

>>6407450
10/10 meme friendo!

>>6407608
wtf are you talking about? There's a ton of poor white people living in the midwest.

>>6407612
i assure you that Michigan's unemployed population is not primarily white trash and is in fact almost entirely black

>>6407615
>There's a ton of poor white people living in the midwest.
The midwest is affluent as shit, there are a few poor small towns but outside of the blighted inner cities of its biggest cities (where no white people live), poor white people are rather rare on the whole there

>>6407628
that graph is pre bush economy. Also the mid west population is pretty dispersed. So you're not going to see huge blips outside of dense areas.

>>6407433

We do have good local produce when it's in season.

A lot of our cuisine has some Eastern European influence, in that a lot of the population is made up of people whose ancestors were from there.

That coupled with the fact that we have harsh winters and if you want to stick to eating local, it means eating like a Russian peasant, there you are.

Our soil tends to be pretty rich for growing, too. Where I grew up, we had soil that was an interesting combination of being sandy but also having a high content of clay. It was easy to turn over and you didn't have to use fertilizer. The clay provided nutrients and the sand reduced the density so that everything grew nicely.

>>6407642
>that graph is pre bush economy.
have a more recent map that doesn't support what I said?

>>6407628
Upwards of 14% poverty is not "rather rare". Also, living below the poverty line is not the only definition of poor. There are many people living just above the poverty line that can still be considered poor.

Also, if you actually look at your own cited source, there are some rather large chunks of North and South Dakota as as well as Nebraska with much higher poverty rates that aren't just the small towns outside blighted inner cities as you claim.

The midwest has a lot of poor white people. Sorry if you don't want to admit it from inside your bubble.

>>6407652
>Upwards of 14% poverty is not "rather rare"
Did you read the map? Almost 0 counties in the midwest fall upwards of 14%, the vast majority of it is in the least impoverished category

>>6407652
>there are some rather large chunks of North and South Dakota
Indian reservations dude

also the great plains are not the midwest

>>6407652
>The midwest has a lot of poor white people
Three are some, but they are less common than anywhere else in america besides New England

To somehow associate midwestern culture with them is utterly ridiculous and shows how little you know of America

>>6407651

>>6407601
You know, if you take out Illinois and Ohio, all of the ten remaining states of the Midwest put together have a population just about that of California.
Still, I find it hard to believe that 40 million people buy as much Miracle Whip as 65 million people do. Especially considering how well-known those 65 million are for their mayonnaise/Miracle Whip "salads" and how well known those 40 million are for bullshit fad foods.

>>6407667
I know, I completely made it up because anti-midwest people get super defensive about california

>>6407666
gonna need a source on that

I have a really hard time believing Alabama is less impoverished than places like New York and Wisconsin

>>6407682
it says right on there. The poverty has changed in more recent times but the lake states are still hurting on the overall level.

>>6407686
https://www.google.com/search?q=america+poverty+map&biw=1824&bih=883&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=3JIpVYSHJIS_ggTPlYPwDw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=FBnJXPlCrGWJYM%253A%3B3ANkqhZXbIbDeM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fcdn.citylab.com%252Fmedia%252Fimg%252Fcitylab%252Flegacy%252F2013%252F12%252F13%252Fschool-age%252520poverty.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.citylab.com%252Fwork%252F2013%252F12%252Fstaggering-concentrated-wealth-americas-northeast-corridor%252F7872%252F%3B608%3B384
None of these show a similar pattern, so I am skeptical of your source

>>6407668
Why can't we just all agree that they're both shit but for different reasons? And that the Midwest has some good qualities?
There's nothing good about California becuase what good it might have just gets swept under the mounds and mounds of shit.
Earthquakes. Forest fires. Pretentiousness. Smelly hippies. AIDS/SF. Crime. And, worse of all, Armenians.
Disgusting. All of California and everyone who lives there sucks.

>>6407687
they're all maps for different things like race and by age most of those also show counties/districts. State totals and percentages show a different story because it accommodates for thinly populated areas.

>>6407697
but actual data contradicts your map

>>6407700
it's from the same source. But for different time spans of course they're going to be different.

>>6407711
every source from every year I can find does not mesh with the image you posted

>>6407719
then learn to be data literate and filter your searches. It's from the census bureau. Local and state economies change also states have different minimum wages and labor laws. Also it depends on how much it costs to live in certain areas. If you set a national poverty line at x dollars your data is going to be flawed because the cost of living is not the same in every area. You have to look at the median income, and median cost of living on a state by state basis to determine where the poverty line is in each.

>>6407733
so why is this >>6407700
so dramatically different than your map?


and if they are in fact both accurate it would suggest that whatever trend yours showed is no longer relevant as this data is more recent

>>6407733
if southerners aren't poor, why are they so religious?

>>6407748

>>6407155
>tfw born, raised, and currently live in midwest
>tfw don't eat all this shit food being posted here because I live in the only respectable city here

>>6407755
Is that pile of shit supposed to set you aside from the rest of the midworst?

>>6407755
Minneapolis?

mennonite zwieback. best rolls

1.5 cups milk
.5 cups lukewarm water
2.5 tsp active dry yeast
just over half a cup of butter or lard
2tsp salt
2Tbsp sugar
5-6 cups flour

scald milk, then cool to lukewarm
dissolve yeast in water
mix fat, milk, salt and sugar. add yeast mixture, then flour
mix and knead well. you'll get dense zwieback if you don't knead well enough. dough should be softer than bread dough
cover and rise until doubled
form 2/3 of dough into balls about 2 inches in diameter
make the rest of the dough into balls about 1 inch in diameter and place on top of larger balls
cover and rise about an hour
bake at 400f for 20-25 minutes

>>6407755
Chicago is pretty much the border between the good midwest and the stereotypical flyover midwest and south. Once you get about an hour or two south of Chicago it fucking sucks, but going north it is pretty nice

>>6407176
works better with rotisserie chicken meat imo. it is awful, but i have enjoyed it while drunk before

>>6407743
they're mostly likely measured by a different rule. So comparing or trying to relate one to another is not really valid.

>Midwestern food
>Good

You people are the people foreigners think of when they say America has no food culture.

The only thing that comes to mind are giant pot-lucks of gross-ish casseroles, bowls of potato salad, mac salad, ambrosia salad, and spaghetti meatballs and sausages.

>>6407760
Those aren't zwieback. Those are einback. Zwieback are baked (back) twice (zwie). Einback are soft, light and buttery, mildly sweetened, yeasted milk-dough baked goods that are baked (back) once (ein) only.
American sandwich bread, for example, is a type of einback.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einback
https://www.google.com/search?q=einback&tbm=isch&gws_rd=ssl

Einback are the interstitial step to zwieback. After baking once, einback is sliced and baked the second time to make it into zwieback.

ITT: People who have never been to the midwest raging against a stereotype.

>>6408602

ITT: Midwesterners defending their unimportant section of America

>>6408545
I know it's not etymologically correct, but that's what it's become known as. I don't know when it happened, although I'm guessing it was some time during the 80 years the Mennonites lived in Russia in the 1800s since it's known as zwieback among Mennonites living in Canada and the US.

>>6408620
I'm pretty happy here in this unimportant part of the country. it's cozy.

I've lived in Illinois almost my entire life and I have no idea what "Midwestern" food is supposed to be.

>>6407371
This is just chili mac made with spaghetti instead of macaroni. Is chili mac not a common thing in the rest of the country?

>>6408669
Where bro? Lets get a beer

>>6408686
Near St. Louis

>>6408694
Stl here. . . Edwardsville? Alton? Ofallon? Troy? granite city? etc. Not the same anon that asked to get a beer, I'm just always curious when I see an anon from my neck of the woods

>>6408706
Belleville

>>6407759
Thats where I live

Jucy Lucys

>>6408834
My nigga

>>6407155
I almost barfed when I read that.
And I'm from Texas.
That is really fucking gross. Goddamn Midwest, lrn2whitetrash cooking.

>>6407155
...and people give the south shit for rotel dip

>>6408962
>>6408970
you guys know that's not a legitimate thing anyone here makes, right? it's the op posting bait that apparently a lot of people think is legit.

>>6407548
>Those pale raw onions

>what is Kansas City BBQ
I feel sorry for people who only have access to shit-tier BBQ. Life must be pretty bleak.

>>6409065
The weakest and most boring of the main styles of bbq, and the reason people think of stupidly sweet sauces when they think of bbq.

>>6409077
say that to my face

>>6409086
And return to that shit hole? No thanks.

KC bbq is emblematic of all of the problems of the Midwest in general: it's a watering down, mixing, and worsening of other styles.

You can't do shit on your own besides make inferior copies of other people's stuff.

>>6409077
Fuck you nigga you haven't eaten BBQ until you been to Oklahoma Joe's

I would take a trip to Chicago primarily to go here for a night, if I could ever get a night off.

>>6409086
possibly the best BBQ chain in the entire world

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>>6409149

I went there, it was surprisingly good for the midwest. The wine list alone felt very non-flyover. But it's not really midwestern food and I'm pretty sure most of the patrons were business travelers or locals who wished they didn't live in chicago.

>>6408628
Well shit. That's intradesting. I went to university in the US in the middle of Amish country and never came across those rolls, even though the dining services were run by Mennonite women and some Amish from the more liberal ordnung.

I was surprised to hear what sounded like a combination between Swiss German and mumbling gibberish. Before that, I never knew Amish were originally of Swiss origin. I thought they were from the Netherlands because Americans keep calling them "Dutch," so I guess everything related to Amish/Mennonites/Hutterites is riddled with misnomers.

>>6407255
I don't see what's so bad about chili on spaghetti. it's spices, beef and tomato paste, essentially just a hotter bolognese

>>6409945
>I thought they were from the Netherlands because Americans keep calling them "Dutch,"
"Dutch" is a corruption of Deutche, because they spoke German.

>>6407155
>tfw born and raised in Midwest
>tfw vegetarian at a young age
>tfw eat disgusting cafeteria food in kindergarten in a pathetic attempt to "fit in"
>tfw threw up all night whilst grandfather watched "The Wonder Years"
>tfw only have taste for Mediterranean and Asian foods
>tfw outcast in black family
>tfw family thinks I have an eating disorder because I refuse to eat their disgusting food
>tfw develop legit eating disorder by age 18
>tfw I wish Maangchi was my Korean mother who lived in perpetual shame of her brown baby, but still cooked delicious food for me everyday
>tfw surrounded by gluttons who wreak of Crisco and Kool-Aid and who criticize my every food choice
>tfw captcha forces me to select hamburger of tasty bowl of miso soup

>>6410178
*hamburger OVER tasty bowl of miso soup

>>6410178
what the fuck kind of shitty parent allows their elementary aged kids to be vegetarian?

>>6409938
lol at the delusion in this post

>>6410221
Animal rights extremists, probably.

One time I knew a kid whose parents forced him to eat broccoli, he went on to become a coastal liberal who doesn't even eat normal food like tendies and ranch dressing.

>>6410229
well he said he was a black midwesterner, he probably just had bad parents as 90%+ of black midwesterners live in inner cities

>>6409938
So what defines Midwestern food to you? Only the lowest common denominator? If you insist on defining it that way, all cuisine all over the world is shitty.

>>6410221
>what the fuck kind of shitty parent allows their elementary aged kids to be vegetarian?
What? As long as their getting their nutrients what's wrong with that. As a matter of fact it makes more sense for kids to be vegetarian by default as they are after weaning and they can decide whether they want to eat meat during their teenage.

>>6410228
What delusion? Chicago food is sloppy slices of beef on a soggy bun served with cheese fries, and MUH CRAFT BEER to drink. The locals get very, very angry when the topic of wine comes up, let alone dining involving multiple small plates instead of 7,400 calories in a big heap.

>>6410236
Beer, beer, and more beer. Wine is for homosexuals and 40 year old women.

Have you ever been to the midwest? You don't seem like it.

>>6410238
allowing your young kid to be a troublesome picky eater is bad. When they are a teen they can make that decision, but it is irresponsible to support such a thing at a young age

>>6410239
Do you live in 1989? Why would you pick wine over beer at a restaurant?

>>6410242
Well to be fair, wine is for women and homosexuals.

>>6410246
>picky eater complaining about kids eating icky vegetables instead of tendies and ranch

Irony: the post

>>6410250
thats a stretch

>>6410247
>>6410248
You're getting it now! Good job, flyover land!

>>6410242
well the midwest has the best beer in the county, and beer pairs much better with food, so its silly to cling to your outdated wine tendencies now that good beer is so readily available

>>6410246
They shouldn't be picky eaters and should eat whatever is presented to them but as long as there's no nutritional deficiency they shouldn't have their ethics decided for them. Their vegetarian diet should be varied and any studies conducted on the subject shows they'll be healthier for it.

>>6410259

What do you mean "now that"? Chances are you're under 40, which means it's been available for your entire adult life.

Civilized people (by which I mean people in civilization, i.e. not flyover land) don't limit their drinking to one thing. Sometimes they'll drink beer, sometimes wine, sometimes liquor, sometimes other things.

The very fact that Purple Pig has a respectable wine list means it's non-flyover. Someone said this was "delusional" but from the reactions that are getting posted now, it was obviously right on the money.

>>6410263
being a picky eater is unethical, so it shouldn't be allowed

>>6410255
Jokes on you, I'm from the south east.

I never understood the term fly over state though. It implies that anyone without a mental disorder would actually want to live in shitty states like Cali, Florida, or New York.

>>6410267
>Chances are you're under 40
Thats a good guess, old people came of age in different market conditions where quality beer was near impossible to find so most still cling to their outdated beliefs.

Luckily for all of us, that is dying out

>>6410274
>It implies that anyone without a mental disorder would actually want to live in shitty states like Cali, Florida, or New York.

flyover spotted.

>implying florida isn't honorary flyover land as well

>>6410274
>I never understood the term fly over state

Clearly, if you think Florida isn't one

>>6410267
Do you seriously think you can only find wine in LA and New York?

>>6410267
>go to midwest, the world's top producer of quality beer
>insist on ordering wine

Grandma, is that you?

>>6410242
Most of my family is from the Midwest. What I'm saying is that if you let the obstinately unreasonable define what the entire cuisine is, then your definition is shit. For instance: Chicago has an amazing food scene, larger towns in Nebraska almost always have a kick-ass homestyle place. It just so happens that there are quite a few midwestern people who are loud, obnoxious, and generally shitty to be around (much of my family, sadly). You just can't let them speak for everyone from the Midwest, and a lot of this memeshit really makes it seem like two potatoes fighting over who can be potatoest.

>>6410279
Eh, I grew up in a military family. I've probably been to way more places than you. I just don't see the appeal of big cities. They are dirty, filled with obnoxious people and niggers, and everything costs way more than its worth for no apparent reason.

>>6410285

Trust me, I know more about this than you.

I can find beer in the UAE, and I can find wine in Dubuque.

Doesn't mean I'm going to be happy with the selection in either place.

Also LA is a shithole, try everything north of central coast.

>>6407287
>thinking farmers and ranchers are poor
Are you retarded? Do you know how much a farmer is worth if they sold everything? I had a small family farm in southern alberta that my dad sold since none of his kids wanted to be farmers and he cashed out a couple million. For a pretty fucking small farm. He sold about 1000 acres. He didn't even sell his machinery, just his land. If he sold his tractors and combine and swather and bailer he would easily clear another million. Also I feel like you're so retarded you also don't know how much ranchers are worth either. Hint: Almost all ranchers are also farmers.

>>6410221
>what the fuck kind of shitty parent allows their elementary aged kids to be vegetarian?

Well, growing up in a single parent household, with 3 other siblings to contend with, meant that the less my mother had to spend on food, the better for her. So, when I would play outside all day and eat the different grasses and berries and what not, she didn't see any of this as a bad thing and neither do I to this day. In fact, I would encourage my own children to live off the land, climb trees, converse with their animal friends and develop are more natural food aesthetic because I'll be damned if I end up with a morbidly obese child because I forced them to be a fucking normie.

>>6410291

I'm not really sure what your point is. I know that there's some great midwest style cooking to be found, and there is also a tiny number of world-class restaurants in shitcago. But an appreciation for wine is clearly not a midwestern thing, as you will surely agree. Same with the tapas style menu, since midwesterners tend to get anxious and upset when all the food doesn't come at once.

Are you suggesting that wine is "better than beer" or that tapas style dining is "better than homestyle"? Because I would never say any such thing, but that seems to be the direction you're trying to take this discussion.

Purple Pig is non-flyover, that is literally all I said. You people are too defensive.

>>6410323
>since midwesterners tend to get anxious and upset when all the food doesn't come at once.
You sound like an idiot

>>6410323
do you seriously think good restaurants are rare in the upper midwest?
You are delusional

>>6410329
>did you pay $5000 for that? for two bits of food? you'll have to stop at McDonalds on the way home

Just post a single image from any tasting menu and this is what flyovers will trip over each other to say.

>>6410335
they are commenting on the crazy inflated prices in CA and NY, not the menu style

>>6410333

There you are again, implicitly implying that midwestern style food is inherently worse than non-flyover food.

Then in the next post you'll turn around and tell me that wine encourages librul book lurnin and the erosion of traditional family values.

Look, it even has wine in the logo. This is not midwestern food. Doesn't mean I don't love culvers, surly, bell's, and all the rest. Stop being so defensive, flyover land.

>>6410323
I think you left your fedora in NY

>>6410352
>implicitly implying that midwestern style food is inherently worse than non-flyover food.
No, I am not. I am saying what you think is uncommon in the midwest is not and you have no clue what you are talking about

> tell me that wine encourages librul book lurnin
The upper Midwest votes democrat in every presidential election. When was the last time Illinois, Wisconsin and Minnesota went to a republican president?

I am just pointing out that you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

Just because beer is better and more common than wine in the midwest doesn't make it odd for a restaurant there to feature wine, there are a fucking lot of restaurants doing all sorts of things

>>6410375
>odd for a restaurant there to feature wine

I don't think you, as a non-wine-drinker, really understand what I'm saying here, which is understandable because all wine is the same as seen on penn & teller.

Tons of places serve wine. There is no argument there. But it's very rare to see a place that is not clueless and serving up stuff that was fashionable 10+ years ago. Mostly, it's steakhouses, and they're serving the same tired selection of napa cabs and bordeaux, plus maybe a couple of mass-market zinfandels and aussie shiraz, especially if catering to a lower end of the market.

Also Minnesota has taken a hard swing to the right ever since they murdered Wellstone and his family. And don't even get started on Wisconsin, home of Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, and the dark lord himself, pic related.

>>6410404
>And don't even get started on Wisconsin, home of Scott Walker, Paul Ryan, and the dark lord himself, pic related.
yep, poor people only show up in presidential years, so republicans win every off year because only the affluent educated suburban people show up

>>6410404
To be fair, wine is bullshit.

>>6410421
Thank you for proving my point, once again.

>>6410426
are you saying Penn and Teller are wrong?

>>6410432
Well, Penn is a vegan now, so what are you gonna go with? Wine is awesome, or PETA?

My secretary has already prepared your letter of resignation, I expect you to sign it and return it to me via interoffice mail no later than close of business.

>>6410443
>Well, Penn is a vegan now,
no hes not

>>6410404
How are you idiots falling for this troll. He's brimming with euphoria.

>>6410416
Actually Minnesota's right wing surge is directly related to the exploding know-nothing non-denominational population in exurbia. The kind who insist on ruining nature with their jet skis while decent people just want to paddle around in canoes, and listen to glenn beck instead of a prairie home companion.

The traditional educated scandinavian lutherans in the rural and urban parts of the state were always DFL stalwarts but they are dying off.

>>6410450

Look at it this way. Imagine you're used to a fresh bountiful selection of >muh local seasonal craft sours, obscure single-hop farmstead ales, and so on, made with only the rarest and most obscure yeasts. And then you go somewhere that considers "craft beer" to be sam adams, shock top, and maybe if you're lucky, magic hat. And when you wonder why, everyone looks at you like you're crazy and says beer is for fags why would you ever drink that.

How would you feel about the drinking culture? You'd probably think it was pretty shitty, right? Even if they had a good selection of liquor?

Well that's the midwest when it comes to wine. Which is fine, because sometimes you want a good beer, and they deliver. But sometimes you want wine, and then you're in for a chamber of horrors.

>>6410458
Minnesota and Wisconsin don't give much of a shit about religion. Their republican voters are the best kind, the ones that don't care much about social conservatives (but unfortunately for us all the politicians still have to pander to fucking southerners for future national ambition)

>>6410475
but wine is inherently a less cultured, inferior beverage that should have been left behind in southern europe. The more culturally advanced northern european cultures all were beer cultures, same is true in america now

>>6408669
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>>6408727
metro stl boys in here
in highland

>>6410484

Last I checked, both Germany and France made some of the best wine in the world, but don't let me interfere with your self-imposed delusions.

>>6410484
>nothern Europe
>more cultured than Sou

You know what fuck it. I'm not even replying to you. My God.

>>6410500
making some good win =/= being a wine culture

and france is not northern europe

>>6410503
its not 2000 years ago dude

This thread gave me cancer.

>>6410508

Well, if you're talking about Scotland and Norway, they only reason they're doing pretty well right now is oil. You could say they're the Saudis of Europe. Less to do with "muh culture" and more to do with the present-day craze for fossil fuels.

And do you really want to get started on the kinds of horrid slop their "cuisine" is based on? inb4 noma and faviken, you know that trend can be traced straight back to spain

>>6410518
good food is usually associated with shitty cultures, like the american south

>>6410513
How come Southern Europe's culture is so easily identifiable yet the North's isn't? I mean, just go on this board frequently to see what I'm saying. Nothing but like 70% French/Italian threads with a mixture of other things like favorite restaurants and Joey.

>>6410525

You had me there until
>good food
>the american south
Quality =\= quantity

>>6410529
because food tradition and actual culture are different things

>>6410484
>anything from Snowfucker land
>cultured

Please, fucking Africa has more culture than the autists who eat raw fish and whale fat.

>>6410538
But Anon, anyone with a brain would rather live in a simple, wood and stone cottage than Beauvais Cathedral...right?

>>6410553
it is interesting how culture slowly moved north throughout recorded history

>>6409017
That's potato you schmuck

>>6410553
Yes. Who the fuck would want to live in a cathedral with god watching you fap?

>>6410566
Well, yeah, industrially of course. But actual culture, as in how people made art and ate? I don't think "culture" is the word you're looking for.

>>6410582
>made art and ate
Thats a ridiculously limited definition of culture. Art is entirely subjective and meaningless, and food had more to do with the natural environment than anything to do with culture

>>6410583
So what's "culture"?

>>6410590
having an advanced and affluent society that values science and technology over "art" and religion

>>6410599

Autistical STEM major who thinks computers weren't invented by humans detected

>>6410606
>who thinks computers weren't invented by humans
what?

I don't think a food has to be traditionally from the area where one currently lives to enjoy it

Iowa fuckin' pork tenderloin, baby.

>>6410599
Like I said, I agree with the first 2 points, but I still think the other things I mentioned are fairly important as well. "culture", to me anyway, has always been a group's way of life, what they do for fun, what they eat, ect. Also

>but wine is inherently a less cultured, inferior beverage that should have been left behind in southern europe

Is also an opinion, not a fact.

>>6410622
>Is also an opinion, not a fact.
Beer is almost certainly the most historically significant and culturally advanced beverage ever developed by man

>>6410616
>I don't think a food has to be traditionally from the area where one currently lives to enjoy it

>BUHH BEER IS BETTER THAN WINE BECAUSE NORTH IS BETTER THAN SOUTH

You must be a ruselord.

>>6410637
>>BUHH BEER IS BETTER THAN WINE BECAUSE NORTH IS BETTER THAN SOUTH
nah, the north is better because beer, not the other way around

>>6410631
...you mean fermentation in general, not just beer. Am I being bated?

>>6410653
>bated
nice one fuckwit.

>>6410653
fermentation of malted grain specifically

>>6410660
anon im tired as shit, and currently have a bait thread on /vp/ about fedoras. I dno't have time for spelling.

ITT: Beer faggots swinging their micrococks around

You probably think guns are God's _second_ greatest creation, right? Ew.

>>6410723
>thinks beer drinkers are crazy southerners
have you never been to america?

The south drinks the least beer and owns the most guns and references god the most

>>6410727
The reason northerners drink more alcohol isn't because of abuse of shit-tier vodkas, drinks to get drunk, etc.; it is because we enjoy quality local brewed ale and the like.

>>6410738
i know, its because the north has a superior culture

>>6407297
>That map
>Labels a county with three of the richest ranches in the world with a sub-500 population as concentrated high poverty

>>6410770
having 3 rich people doesn't change the percent of residents living in poverty

>>6410748

>but at least we're not the south
Must be great living in the second worst part of the country

>>6410778
No, but when those 3 people, one of which is the fucking Pope, employ the remaining 409 people and subsidize all their housing and bills, it can be seen as slightly misleading.

>>6410790
its by far the nicest part of the country to live in unless you can't handle wearing a jacket half the year

>>6410794
I mean they probably didn't make the data up

>>6410800
I'm sure it's nicer than both Alabama AND Mississippi.

>>6410808
yeah, having an elite quality of life along with being affluent is real shitty

>>6410800
>mfw i've been living in ohio and the white people are all ugly and inbred

maybe i should check out more of the midwest but based on my limited experience, there's not too much to recommend it.

>>6410806
Well obviously, but they should be factoring in cost of living/quality of life into the mix. A ranch hand pulling in $30,000 with free housing, who sells homemade leather goods on the side to tourists, and gets tipped to say Mr. Cheney didn't see the lawyer he shot, is not living in poverty, and a 2,000 sq mile county populated by 412 people is not concentrated in any sense of the word.

Is Colorado flyover territory?

>>6410819
>elite quality of life
Being able to shoot cans off a fencepost from your back porch without the neighbors being able to hear the gunshots isn't high on most people's checklists of "things I need to be able to do where I choose to make my home"

Enjoy your recombinant cuisine

>>6410838
Ohio is kind of its own thing. Its a strange hybrid of the Midwest, the Appalachians and the south

Note how they like college football over NFL unlike most of the mdiwest, they are also poorer and fatter than other midwestern states

>>6410839
you are never going to be able to map the country without odd things happening in super small population areas, small sample sizes fuck everything up

>>6410847
You seem to be genuinely confused about what the midwest is

>>6410856
Not really. You want to rehash this again? I'll save you some time:

>Me: this is how it is
>You: no ur wrong [stamps feet]
>Me: although your region has its good points, here are some deficiencies about your region
>You: no ur wrong u don't know shit, we have every good thing and no bad things!
>Me: here are some more specific deficiencies about your region
>You: that example is shit because I hate it, we don't have that thing because it's shit! why would anyone want that thing?
>Me: but you just got done saying you have that thing
>You: no! let's change the subject now, here are a bunch of maps showing how we're better than the south!

Have a marshmallow salad and repeat after me: at least you're not the south.

>>6410221
niggers.

>>6410885
You have been confusing the midwest with the south this entire thread

you are obviously not a well traveled person

>>6409945
yeah, the Amish came to America from Switzerland and Deutsch became Dutch over the years because people are dumb
while on the other hand, most Mennonites are ethnically Dutch but people consider us German. I guess the fact that they lived in Prussia for an extended period of time and brought a mostly German language with them to America contributes to that. if you ever hear an old Mennonite speaking Plautdietsch, you'll immediately be able to tell that it's a mix of German and Dutch. it's really an interesting language and it's a shame it's dying out.
but yeah, Anabaptist history is super fucking weird. I've actually never met an Amish person here in South Dakota, but we have Hutterites who share some similarities. They don't shun all modern technology though, but they're plain dress and communal living folk. they often have extremely cutting edge farming equipment and are quite wealthy since they pool their funds together.

>>6410900

If you are talking domestic, and not international where I will trounce your sorry ass, I'll just say I spent 6 years living in 4 midwestern states, besides time living on both coasts. It's highly unlikely you've got a better understanding than me of how the different regions of the US relate to one another.

>>6410885
What bad things? The only mark against the upper midwest is the winter, but a jacket makes that pretty tolerable. Otherwise it has an amazing quality of life even for the less rich people (unlike non flyover capitals LA and NY where you must be rich to take advantage of it). Meanwhile there are very few poor people and unless you are overwhelmed by white guilt there is little to upset you

>>6410912
>not international where I will trounce your sorry ass
What are you basing this off of? and why would that even be relevant when nothing we have discussed is related to this at all?

>>6410912
why the fuck have you lived in at least 6 different states? How old are you?

>>6410928
You can't stay around once the kids start talking.

>>6408834
Ayyyy just went there the other day.

>>6410934
what does that even mean?

>>6410921

Scroll back up to >>6409149 and read the shitstorm if you haven't already.

>>6410928

Actually 8 states and 3 countries. Staying in one place gets terrifically boring.

>>6410938
you never actually made an argument about why the midwest is bad, you kind of just kept repeating it is bad while intermittently saying its not bad. You are strange

>itt americucks getting cucked by other americucks

>>6410938
>Actually 8 states and 3 countries. Staying in one place gets terrifically boring.
do you not have a job or a family?

>>6410937

The joke is that I am a child molester and I move because I need to flee justice.

The other popular one is that I must be a military brat, it was about 50/50.

>>6410738
eh, we do drink to get drunk though

>>6410946

I haven't moved in about 15 years, actually. I would very much like a change of scenery, but it gets harder to just pick up and go on a whim as you get older, unless you don't want to have a career.

>>6410949
but not only to get drunk, we also drink good stuff

Meanwhile in the less civilized areas they think Jesus will be mad at you if you get drunk

>>6410847
>>6410885
hey friend, you should refer back to this post

>>6408628


have a great day, thanks

:^)

>>6410293
Literally the only way to escape niggers is to live in the country

why does the west coast have such an ugly accent?

>>6410963
in most of the midwest black people are incredibly isolated in inner city neighborhoods, there are very few mixed neighborhoods and the ones that are are currently being gentrified

>>6410529
Ever had a sandwich you dumb fuck?

guess where those came from

>221 posts
>53 posters

muricans arguing about which shit sandwich is more cultured from their shitty country, usa food is almost as bad as the UK

>>6410998
>you will never live in a nice place

>>6407155

>Murrifats think there is any difference between parts of their cultureless cuntry


MY SIDES

>>6410991
The Italians had sandwiches long before Brits did.
The Descriptio provinciae Romandiolae, a document/report ordered by some Cardinal or other on the Papal State of Romandiolae et Exarchatus Ravennae was written in 1371 and makes mention of the locals of that area eating "ingeniously" without sullying their hands by placing bits of meat and cheese between two slices of bread that had been spread with lard.

And I'm sure some other culture had two-slices-of-bread sandwiches (as opposed to wraps and the like and open-faced "sandwiches") even before then. That's just the earliest irrefutable source I can find for a food composed of a bit of meat between two slices of bread..

The sandwich is nothing special, Anon.

>>6411099
yeah, but they forgot about it as their society continued its long collapse into barbarism

>>6407278
>I posted it again

>>6411107
The real worry for the enlightened coasties in this thread is how much they sound like>>6411062

Truly an embarrassing display to sound so much like a yurostanian.

>>6407176
>"buffalo chicken dip"

lolno.jpg

That's not even close the real recipe. There's an actual Frank's Red Hot Buffalo Dip recipe on the webz. Has like canned chicken, cream cheese, shredded cheese, ranch, and maybe velveeta, and Frank's Buffalo.

GOAT-tier dip, but don't know it off the top of my head and too lazy to google. Your mother in law should be in prison for false advertising her monstrosity as a buffalo chicken dip and not going with the real thing because she's too lazy.

>>6411111
That's odd, I seem to remember the midwesterners claiming that america is all the same (except the south we're totally better than the south!)

>>6411099
Except sandwiches are probably the most convenient way to combine food groups and taste awesome when made well.

Being cognate means nothing when they didn't actually follow through with it.

Burgers being a type of sandwich means that the anglosphere wins again mudslime

>>6407155
>Miracle Whip

>>6411130
lol at calling a buffalo chicken dip inauthentic as though there is a holy traditional way to do it

>>6411139
> I seem to remember the midwesterners claiming that america is all the same
Except you are making that up
America isn't all the same culturally, but you can buy any regional food in any major city very easily

From what I`ve gathered from this thread. midwestern people have really bland food and bingedrink alot. As a Norwegian it makes me proud that the people emigrating from this region made such a vibrant and respectable culture.
Do they dislike talking to strangers and love skiing/wintersports aswell?

>>6411254
>midwestern people have really bland food and bingedrink alot

Yes, very much so, as long as you drink what's acceptable to drink (beer and brown liquor for men, beer and flourescent/clear liquor if you're a woman, no wine allowed, let alone any weird foreign stuff what are you a commie)

>Do they dislike talking to strangers

Sort of, look up "minnesota nice", it basically means fear of confrontation. You never really know anyone in the upper midwest, you're just friendly with a lot of people.

> and love skiing/wintersports aswell?

Traditionally, yes. With the erosion of upper midwest values (see: the growth of megachurch nondenominationals), respectable stuff like cross country skiing and ice fishing is getting replaced with retard stuff like loud snowmobiles and driving your truck across the river until it falls through the ice.

>>6411141
>Anon 1 claims sandwiches are a northern European invention
>Anon 2 provides an actual source showing that sandwiches predate their northern European "invention" by four hundred years
>you get pissy about unrelated nothings for no reason

Is your vagina bothering you? Has your period come early this month?

>>6411302
>look up "minnesota nice", it basically means fear of confrontation

Well bless their hearts

>>6411302
It`s kinda weird how the culture is so recognisable even though it has changed quite a bit. Would love to visit one time, I aperently have tons of family over there aswell.
Do you know if they still eat traditional scandinavian food, and if they do, is it popular?

>>6411302
>as you drink what's acceptable to drink
You are talking out your ass here. There is no prohibition against wine, no one will attack you for drinking wine, most people simply choose beer over it because the best beer is so readily available and because it was mostly settled by beer drinking societies

Women especially drinking wine isn't uncommon at all

>see: the growth of megachurch nondenominationals
What are you even talking about? Upper midwesterners are almost entirely lutheran or catholic (and for the most part the catholics are basically apathetic to religion these days)

>>6411254

most americans eat the same bland stuff they do in the midwest though. Also people in the midwest may drink, but as a whole people in america drink less than europeans, though maybe moreso than a few scandinavian countries.

>>6411302
>With the erosion of upper midwest values (see: the growth of megachurch nondenominationals), respectable stuff like cross country skiing and ice fishing is getting replaced with retard stuff like loud snowmobiles and driving your truck across the river until it falls through the ice.
This is pure crazy speak. You are saying because of some religious movement (that almost certainly was invented in your head) that people are picking up snowmobiling over skiing?

What the fuck possible connection is there between religion and snowmobiling in the upper midwest?

>>6411302
>Traditionally, yes. With the erosion of upper midwest values (see: the growth of megachurch nondenominationals), respectable stuff like cross country skiing and ice fishing is getting replaced with retard stuff like loud snowmobiles and driving your truck across the river until it falls through the ice.


Wtf, how would those even be related

>>6411325
>traditional scandinavian food

Very few people do this. You can find stuff like lefse and lutefisk in small towns and a few specialty stores and some of those same small towns still have restaurants where the food resembles what you might find in a small nowegian town, but in exurbia (the main population centers) most people treat themselves with stuff like Macaroni Grill and Olive Garden (shit-tier "italian" chains), and at home they eat culturally ambiguous north american food, either microwaved or cooked on MUH GRILL (an outdoor cooking stove powered by compressed pieces of synthetic charcoal). In cities they are preoccupied with the scraps of exotica they can manage (primarily cambodian, viet, and mexican, with increasingly some east african these days) but for whites, that is seen as food for dirty impoverished hipsters, not something for grown adults.

Some years ago when the food scene seemed to be on the up and up, a few real chefs tried to civilize the noble savages, in one case with modern scandinavian fine dining, but it was a miserable failure because fine dining means MUH STEAK and MUH STEAK only, with the aforementioned outdated wine list. Jean Georges got replaced with a local "italian" place which serves such approachably exotic things as three-cheese pizza, and Samuelsson got booted out and replaced with an upscale hamburger joint.

>>6411254
nah, we're not as autistic as you guys

we used to ski and iceboat a lot, but that died off about 50-70 years ago. now we just ice fish and play hockey

>>6411302
>With the erosion of upper midwest values
How is the upper midwest's drift toward indifference to religion and atheism possibly a bad thing and what does it have to do with winter activities?

>>6411366
Snow is white, symbolizing Christ's purity, and cold is the opposite of hot, ie. not the damning fires of Hell. By skiing and ice fishing, you are using these gifts from god as a thoroughfare, and it is through this natural communion that your unblemished faith grows. However, mega churches teach loudness and brashness, positioning yourself as holier than your neighbor to compete for God's love, much like the loud snowmobile that sullies the quiet snow, and the track tears through the snow. So all we are left with is a fire breathing (demonic) snowmobile ripping through Christ's love.

>>6411381
why do you insist on using the term exurbs instead of suburbs like normal people?

>>6411325
I live at the Minnesota/South Dakota border, and I can get lefse and lingonberry jam at any grocery store. that's about it though. churches will sometimes have special dinners where they serve lutefisk and aebleskiver

>>6411302
jesus christ you're autistic. did you have a girlfriend from the midwest who broke up with you?

>>6411381
>and at home they eat culturally ambiguous north american food, either microwaved or cooked on MUH GRILL
are you seriously implying people don't use stoves and ovens?

Are you just making stuff up or just delusional?

>>6411305
Except tomatoes aren't Italian yet almost all famous Italian dishes consist of it.

Spaghetti is most definitely not an Italian dish, everyone knows that.

Anglosphere triumphs as always
Stay pleb you half Arab mudslime

>>6411397

Because they are different. Suburbs are like Edina, Bloomington, St. Louis Park. Arguably even large parts of Minneapolis and St. Paul. You can theoretically walk or ride a bicycle to the grocery store in most parts of a suburb. Exurbs are shit holes like Lakeville and Mounds View.

>>6411399
>>6411381

> they only eat lefse and lutefisk.

Well, i guess it`s not to bad. Lefse is pretty good.
And lutefisk, if prepared well, is glorious.

>>6411427
its a pretty arbitrary designation, and in most of the midwest, what you would describe as exurbs have the most prosperous and cultured individuals

The olive garden people you lament are the inner suburb blue collar union families

>>6411416
Northern people still don't have any culture, no mater what /pol/ tells you. Dwelling in the snow and making wood carvings make you a simpleton, not a genius. Like, I'm not even kidding man, Southern Europe has been about a thousand times more influential in the modern day than Northern Europe. That's objectively true. The colder it gets, the less intelligent the people are.

>>6411451
>The colder it gets, the less intelligent the people are.

oh really?

>>6411451
>Southern Europe has been about a thousand times more influential in the modern day
Thats misleading

Southern Europe was much more influential long ago, but in the modern era its not even close. Its ridiculous to attribute the influence of the romans on modern southern european people

>>6411451
>The colder it gets, the less intelligent the people are
Thats why Spain, Italy and Greece are failing and being propped up by northerners?

>>6411451
>The colder it gets, the less intelligent the >people are.

I agree that southern Europe has been alot more influential but to say that northern europe has no culture is plain wrong. And the intelligent comment is just so wrong i dont know where to start.

>>6411444
I am not sure what you mean by "cultured"; the old cultural stalwarts of the twin cities (namely the guthrie theater, the minnesota orchestra, the st paul chamber orchestra, and the walker art center) were founded and primarily funded by residents of the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul. In later years as the robber baron types died off, they were sustained again by corporate donors and wealthy people based in those same cities, with a few exceptions for places like Minnetonka and later Wayzata which at one time were essentially country retreats but are now suburbs. Furthermore the vast majority of visitors to those institutions are residents of the actual cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul. "Culture" to an exurban means seeing the latest independent Quentin Tarantino film at the Coon Rapids AMC, if you're lucky.

>>6411462
You mean...Greece?

>>6411361
Yes and no.

Americans tend to drink more in one sitting while we tend to drink more overall, I think.

The difference is that Brits and their daughter cultures (such as the US and Australia) and their rapefolk (such as the Irish and Indians) tend to have the weekender/after 5 view of alcohol: anyone drinking any time other than on weekends or after 5pm on weekdays is bad. This is evidenced in English language phrases like "day drinking" and "it's five o'clock somewhere!," expressions that are entirely absent from other languages.

We don't tend to have this idea.

It's not uncommon to have wine or beer with lunch or even breakfast in most of the continent and still have a productive work day. It seems like the idea of having a weekday pint during your lunch break is reprehensible to Americans.

>>6411451
Not to mention they're all literally autistic.

>>6411416
More unrelated things to be pissy about, huh? Must be a heavy flow this month.

>>6411467
population shifts since then have been huge, all cultured Midwestern moved to the suburbs as poor blacks moved up from the south in the mid 1900s. In very recent years the trend is starting to reverse, but according to liberals gentrification is bad so they will try and prevent its advance

also, culture has nothing to do with theaters thats a ridiculously limited way to view it

lel why do snowniggers always try and bit the literal hand that gave them everything from modern government to language? Stay on your fucking knees goldie locks.

>>6411480
>Butt blasted mudslime detected
>Anally annihilated europoor spotted

>>6411494

Fite me.

>>6411481
Well, that's why I asked you what you meant. I mentioned venues for theater, music (mostly western classical although there's jazz and eastern classical at those venues as well), and art. I have already mentioned restaurants, where, aside from the handful of traditional scandinavian places in the small towns, the cities lead by a wide margin. I have not brought up popular music but let's face it: clubs like First Avenue where artists like Prince and The Replacements cut their teeth have no parallel in shit holes like Mounds View.

So I'll ask you again: what do you mean by culture, since you have already told me what you did not mean? Do you mean malls? Do you mean nondenominational mega churches full of fat idiots? Because the exurbs have those in spades.

>>6411496
You shouldn't be using Chinese-made butt-blasting detection devices or Soviet surplus binoculars, Anon. They're clearly malfunctioning.

>>6411518
>I mentioned venues for theater, music (mostly western classical although there's jazz and eastern classical at those venues as well), and art
in midwestern cities, those are mostly attended by suburban people anyways

>>6407267
the midwest is all slums from memphis till the prairies. they think margarine goes on everything, mainline inject walmart brand ranch dressing, and are where all the FAT MURIKAN stereotype got started.

>>6410885
Ambrosia is the epitome of disgusting white people food.

>>6411557
>from memphis till the prairies
neither mephis or the prairies are the midwest though

>>6411713
>the midwest is the three counties that I allow to be called the midwest, everything else is No True Midwestern Place

kek

>>6411717
There is no definition of the midwest that has evr included memphis

The Midwest extends from Minnesota to Ohio and south to the Ohio River

>>6408628
I like the one about how much of their income they spend to live there.
People like the coasts so much that they'll spend more to live there (the only two states where about a third or more of the population spend over half of their income on housing are coastal states). The upper Midwestern states have cheaper homes because no one wants to live there. There's a huge supply of places to live and little demand for it, so the market balances out the cost of housing to the lowest in the country.
All that map proves is that people want to live on the coast and don't want to live in the flyover areas.

>>6411720
I'm not the one who said it's in memphis, but it's funny how you people conveniently shift the definition of the midwest whenever it suits you
>but michigan isn't the midwest because blacks!
>but iowa isn't the midwest because it has corn fields!
>but ohio isn't midwest because muh feelings!

>>6408628
minnesota represent

>>6411734
Michigan is in every definition of the Midwest, Iowa almost always is

The western plains are generally considered their own thing, it is a much different area culturally as its population is very sparsely spread out, and the climate is dryer making the agriculture different
Ohio is part of the midwest technically but culturally it is more poor and southern

So memphis, and the prairies (which I assume he means the great plains) as were just mentioned are neither actually part of the midweest and continue the coastie meme of pretending the midwest is the south

>>6411734
Missouri is absolutely the Midwest with the exception of the parts that are south of the Mason-Dixon line.

>>6411755
St. Louis is fairly midwestern, but rural Missouri is straight up southern and their university is even in the SEC.
Midwestern states don't have evangelicals

>>6411764
>Midwestern states don't have evangelicals

That's like saying the Philippines and Latin America don't have evangelicals

The thing about evangelicals is that they are like ebola. They infect the filthy and they spread. The clean may remain untouched but that doesn't mean their stink isn't ever present. Even in catholic or lutheran places.

>>6411770
there are probablt some small minority populations, but almost the entire midwest is catholics and lutherans (the two religions who give the least fucks these days), you never see baptists there

>>6411764
Midwesterners created the megachurch.

>>6411778
German scandanavian and irish areas are the real america

>>6411781
No idea whether that is true, but they are quite uncommon there. I mostly associate them with Texas

White people in America have zero culture.

>>6411778

The problem is the nondenominationals who share a lot of values with organized evangelical strains, including the more extreme baptists. Keep in mind also, "baptists" is like "lutherans": you have to be more specific. To you, perhaps, lutheran means ELCA, but LCMS has a strong following in parts of the midwest, particularly wisconsin. Living among them isn't much better than living among hard-right baptists.

>>6411786
thats why every other culture in the world is trying to emulate them

>>6411791
lol no

>>6411789
I used to live near Milwaukee, and the Lutherans there were nearly as apathetic as the Catholics

Maybe the northern part of the state has those you speak of though

>>6411789
baptists are overwhelmingly crazy people on par with mormons and scientologists

>>6411792
lol yes

>>6411802
Not really, you are thinking of Southern Baptist Convention types which is what most people think of when they think of "baptists". The BWA baptists technically outnumber SBC baptists but they are a pluralistic, apathetic bunch so of course no one pays them any attention.

>>6411802
>baptists are overwhelmingly crazy people on par with mormons and scientologists

You misspelled "Moslems."

Greetings from the Mitten State. C'mon up to Dearborn or Hamtramck and experience Sharia law. I guarantee you will never complain about "dem crazy Babtists" again.

>>6411804
I'm not going to have this argument with you, but I'll just say you might be surprised at how brand america has lost its luster since the end of the cold war. of course it's probably the single strongest national identity but there are many parts of the world where the locals are looking up to a regional power and not america. you can expect the decline to continue. no one is king of the hill forever.

>>6407157
You forgot a can of ro⋆tel.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

>>6411824
i'm sure they suck too, but thats beside the point, especially considering how rare they are

Fun Boy Three - The Lunatics (have taken over the Asylum) - LIVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRNYqsMIbg0

300 posts, well done op. I've only made 2 threads that reached autosage in all my time on /ck/.

>>6411831
In SE Michigan they're not rare. They're everywhere and they've pretty much taken over two cities completely, and are working hard on making Ann Arbor their next. Which should be pretty amusing. I can't wait until the weekly LGBTQAOMGWTFBBQ Pride Parade gets shut down by a bunch of bearded guys in turbans wielding axe handles, and the total, complete news blackout that will follow. Maybe they'll build a couple of big mosques downtown near the expensive loft apartments and start blasting the infidels out of their beds every morning at 0400 with the call to prayer broadcast over loudspeakers, like they do in Dearbornistan and Hamtramckstan, in open defiance of city noise ordnances.

>>6411764
>there's a county in alaska that's majority quaker
Well colour me surprised.
I wonder if they do programmed worship or waiting worship.

>from Indiana
>ctrl+F "pork tenderloin"
>only result is from Iowa, our pork tenderloin arch nemesis

Come on, step it up, Hoosiers

>>6411451
Yes, back in ancient times southern europe was absolutely more influential. But thinking they are more influential than northern europe across all of history is fucking retarded. Do you really think France, UK, Germany and Russia aren't the 4 most influential countries OF ALL TIME, and yet they are all northern (well, half of France). In before you get autistic about me including Russia and UK. If you want to take global north/south distinction northern companies have absolutely been more influential than southern ones across earth's history.

>>6411754
Also the immigrants are way different in the prairies. Most of the people in the prairies are Ukrainian/Hungarian/Eastern European ancestry. Midwest has a lot more northern europe involved.

>>6411781
oh really now?

>>6411722
you sound like a teenage girl. it's popular so it's good, even if all the other information contradicts that.

>>6407590

You'd obviously be even more surprised as it's no longer 1960, how many really don't. Though I hear fry sauce is popular out west or something.

>>6411830

Rotel is shit, and it's combined efforts with Velveeta to sell the two as a dip is just stupid. Fresh salsa, any day of the week.

>>6407755
chicago

>>6410239
this is what people think of chicago?

>>6410885
but you've been wrong about everything you're labeling as midwestern