/ck/ - Food & Cooking

It's literally keen waa

pomodoro

>>6399498

mise en place

how do you say tomato

>>6399507
Tomayto.

>>6399544
Meez on plas

>>6399544
https://translate.google.com/#en/fr/mise%20en%20place
Click the speaker.
Good luck with the "en" and "a" sounds.

>>6399498
The pronunciation is /ˈkiːnwɑː/. It's the second word on the wikipedia article. Do you have to be spoon-fed everything?
>>6399507
[pomo'doːro], with the [o]s being mid vowels, not close-mid.

>>6399544
[mi zɑ̃ ˈplas]

>>6400320
lmao nerd

keurig????????

>>6400335
Kee yoo reeg

>>6400334
What?
>>6400335
Check wikipedia.

Asafoetida

as-uh-fet-i-duh

Makes sense when you actually read the word but it always throws people.

Is it po-tay-toe or po-tay-tah?

>>6399550
"Tomato"

>>6400346
he says "kyuric" for some reason

i dont understand why the fuck in some languages you write something in a way and then read it in a different manner

>>6400355
po-tay-toe unless you're trying to shun civilized society

>>6400365
Aye, like English

>>6400364
>>6400364
It does indeed share origins with volumetric unit for fecal measurement (curics)

>>6400355
PO TAY TOE

MASH 'EM, BOIL 'EM, STICK 'EM IN A STEW

>>6400365
Please be bait

>>6400381
nope, i'm italian
if we write quinoa we read quinoa if we mix the letter and make another word we read them the same way
in english you read the letters depending in wich place they are, wtf ?

>>6400392
Not them, but I dont understand everything you said after "italian"..

>>6400392
>in english you read the letters depending in wich place they are, wtf ?

>>6400398
english:
potato -> you read the A in one way
water -> you read the A in another way
Ally -> you read the A in another way

italian:
patata -> we read A in a way
acqua -> we read A in the same way
Alessia -> we read A in the same way

>>6400392
>I'm Italian

Don't worry, that explains it.

>>6400381
>>6400398
>>6400417
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_orthography#Spelling_patterns
Just take a look at this clusterfuck. The relation between spelling and pronunciation in English is the product of centuries of "do whatever you want", plus some people who wanted to make everything look French, and the use of a defective alphabet for a phonologically rather complex language.

>>6399500
"Literally"

>>6400433
I know an Italian that is better, smarter and more important than you in every way.

>>6400421
English is a diverse language. Far more words and far more old languages influencing it's lexicon than Italian. Obviously none of them pronounce all letters the same so our words can vary wildly.

Also there are ~20 vowel sounds and only 5 vowels so there obviously must be some nuanced spelling to get all 20 in there.

Thus the greatest language is born.

>>6400442
But you definitely don't know 2

>>6400461
Location: Incorrect - your home sweet home.

>>6400455
Nobody cares that you know how the English language is formed (everyone knew that in high school, or earlier).

He's just complaining.

>>6400479
totally

>>6400392
>>6400421
This is because the rest of the world is using our alphabet. Similar problems occur in all languages using our alphabet as occurs in English.

The American, Benjamin Franklin, wanted to institute a new alphabet for written English, inspired by but distinct from ours, just as ours was inspired by but is distinct from the Greek and Etruscan alphabets (both of which were, in turn, inspired by by distinct from Phoenician).

Sadly, much like American attempts at metrication in the 70s, the yanks found change too difficult, so they'd rather hold spelling bees and memorise X-word is nonsensically spelled Y-way rather than institute an orthography that makes sense for their language.

Just as you said: most everything in Italian is written as it's said with very, very few exceptions. It's why we don't have spelling bees. The same is true of Russian writing in Cyrillic, Greek writing in Greek, Korean writing in Hangul and Taiwanese writing in Bopomofo. The thing these languages and writing systems have in common is that the writing systems were specifically created for those languages and are well-suited to that language's phonology as a result.

However, with the world adopting the Italian/Roman alphabet, languages that use phonology entirely ill-suited to Romanisation nonetheless adopt it, resulting in a written language that is as mystifyingly stupid to look at as it is to try to sound out, even to a native speaker of the language in question.

>>6400455
You derived your alphabet from Latin, which is the direct ancestor of Italian. Those two languages only have five different vowel qualities. Thus they only have five different vowel letters.
Many languages adopted the Latin script and adapted it to their needs. For example, they added letters to represent more vowel sounds. German umlaute do just this.
But for some reason, this idea never caught on in English. Which is why you have to spell 20 different vowels with 5 different signs.
But not only that, sometimes an o is an [i], an i is an [ai], an ai is an [æi] or backwards, up, down, top to bottom and round again.
It's a complete mess.

Buh-log-nuh

>>6400560
>Similar problems occur in all languages using our alphabet as occurs in English.
They do occur in many, but not in all. Turkish and Finnish for example are two rather recent alphabets based on Latin, which have an almost perfect one-by-one relationship of phonemes and letters.
You just need to do it right.

>>6400421
OH YEAH? You think your language is of the gods??
Explain "bolognese"

>>6400584
What is your exact problem with that word?

>>6399498
bruschetta

brew sket ah

>>6400607
[bruˈsketta]

>>6400607
>>6400617

Irn Bru sketti

>>6400589
>bola-nais
Do Italian's really say
>bolog-neese ????

>>6400607
thats nice that they put it in english for you

>>6400570
Bleh, learning this mess builds character

>>6400421
>J
>K
>W
>X
>Y
WHERE THE FUCK ARE THOSE LETTERS DAGOZ

>>6400560
Ben Franklin thought a bit too much of his own talent

>>6400560
'tism

>>6400574
This is called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthographic_depth
Turkish and Finnish follow the Italian model of transparent orthography. Atatürk notably copied more than just our orthography. He also copied a lot of our stupid ideas, too, such as our justice system and penal code, our form of goverment and our monetary system.
French, however, decided to have silent Xs and have the word 'grenouille' be pronounced as 'grah-noo-ee' rather than 'greh-noh-oo-eel-leh' or 'greh-noh-weel-leh' or spelling it as 'granuui.'
And before someone says "but 'ille' is always pronounced the same in French!" Yeah? Then why isn't it pronounced the same in 'bacille' as it is in 'grenouille?' "Oh," you might say "that's because grenouille has a vowel before the -ille part!" Then what about 'fille?'
Fuck French.

>>6400584
GN in Italian is always pronounced the same way with no exception: identically to Spanish "ñ" or like Portuguese NH. Boh-loh-nyeh-seh/zeh (seh or zeh depends on the speaker's preference).
We have hard rules with very few exceptions at all, unlike French and English.

>>6400584
>>6400628
wat ?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lcQIcI4Gut
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0x0c2wSkVCU

>>6400320
sorry OP here but english is like my third langauge, I don't even know how those phonetic letters work

>>6400724

Those letters aren't English bro.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Phonetic_Alphabet

>>6400642

>>6400724
The IPA is capable of transcribing the pronunciation of any known language in the world. It is in no way limited to English.
You can find simple descriptions and audio files for each symbol on wikipedia.
Most of them are close to their use in different languages.
' stands before a stressed syllable and ː marks a long sound.
/kiːn/ sounds like keen, /w/ sounds like the w in wall and /ɑː/ is like the a in father.

>>6400727
>>6400750
interesting, thanks amigos

>>6399498
>Quinoa
I'd say KWEE-NOAH just from reading it.

>>6399500
It's actually "queen wah?"

>>6400750

I seriously doubt that, there are subtle eastern sounds that a vulgar western baka like you could never DREAM of being able to distinguish which convey an entire UNIVERSE of meaning.

>>6400772
no "u"

keen-wah

>>6400773
Japanese only has 21 phonemes. That's not a problem.
And if you're referring to the pitch accent, they got that covered as well.

>>6400777
Except there is literally a w/u sound before the ee

>>6400750
>any known language in the world
>chinese
>thai
doesnt really work for tonal languages

>>6400788
nah, you're a cunt

and also incorrect

>>6400791
Look in the bottom right corner of the chart.

>>6400804
oh yeah its there but like, have you tried it? its worthless unless you speak another tonal language

>>6400809
I don't like your tone, mister

>>6400809
Yeah, so? If you don't know what a ɬ sounds like, you won't be able to pronounce it either.

>>6400365

geoduck

>>6400607
>>6400617
>>6400625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fyl9TRVZ-2w

>>6400884
I'm from western washington, and I always hated that bullshit pokemon spelling.
Fuckin' clams.
Fuckin' digging away from you. Smelling like shit. Looking like miscarriages.
Thinking they're so great.