/ck/ - Food & Cooking

The rest of the order. Plan on fishing a lot this summer

>>6351774
>$9.90

That's gonna be some quality steel anon.

>>6351777
proper maintenance does wonders even for shitty knives. people just need to understand that kitchen knives have to be sharpened once in a while.

>>6351777
good enough to kill some one its good enough to chop a fucking onion

>>6351777
It's a piece of stamped carbon steel with a wood handle, how much would you expect to pay? They hold an edge just fine.

>>6351777

Winco and Shibazi are hugely underrated knives, they are the Dexter Russell/Victo of China. great quality

>>6351776
a lad i used to work with had that filleting knife and he said it was amazing. enjoy

>>6351832
Awesome. I didn't exactly know what to look for in a filet knife. I needed a sheath, but I just kind of picked one. The wood handled version was much much better looking but the softgrip is obviously more practical while near the water

>>6351800
like this?

>>6352342
You piece of shit.
There's no excuse for this.

>>6352342
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>6352342
>GENUINE ITALIAN FROM ITALY

>>6352342

Is that a fucking butter knife?

>>6351774
This is literally over ten times more expensive in the UK.

>>6352741

cuz it cost more it ship it to your retarded island.

>>6352342

I just cannot understand what this cameraman is doing. The entire video he's changing the focus, shaking the camera and tilting it. I mean, it'd be understandable if it was amateur porn but you're standing there filming a woman cooking

>>6352763

lol, that price difference is WAY more than shipping.

>>6352741
What some online vendors have found is that many people can't be arsed to shop around, and they charge a premium hoping that you won't realize you can get it cheaper elsewhere.

For example, Chef Knives to Go sells the popular CCK (Chan Chi Kee) brand of knives on their site. However, they charge (literally) about 4 times what you can get them from CCK from directly. They get away with this because their customers don't know any better.

>>6352776
Onions makes him all emotional

>>6352741

Jessup Cries, man.

>>6352781

And what about that gallon of oil, the tomatoes and all that? I mean, dude, even a 14 year old Tumblr girl can handle her daddy-gifted DSLR better when making Youtube vlogs

>>6352778
>Chan Chi Kee
can you find me an english site to buy from?

>>6352816

Just Email them in hong kong and ask for a paypal invoice, or call their branch in Canada (whose name I can't recall, but Google knows where it is)

The whole point of what I just said was that if you buy them from the fancy English-language website you end up paying out the ass for that privedlge. But all you need to do is contact them directly and you're set. The office in Hong Kong can read and write English (or you can read/write Cantonese using Google Translate). The people in their canadian branch speak english on the phone.

>>6352824
How much does the small cleaver usually sell for outside of cktg?
They also seem a bit cheaper for gyutos then other places.

>>6352839

It's been a while since I bought mine; if I recall correctly I paid roughly $20 for it. Model 1303.

>>6352863
Interesting, how long did it take to get?

>>6352877

About a week if I recall correctly. This was about ten years ago; sorry if I can't recall the specifics.

You'd be better off asking them what their shipping options are and what it costs rather than asking me.

>>6352741
>>6352784
I asked them a question about it, would be cool if some more people did, too, and also on the EU website, maybe they'll panic and put the price down.

>>6352921

Why bother? Just order from CCK directly like the other guy posted earlier. Then you're cutting out the middleman entirely.

>>6352921
Here's where to ask the question, about halfway down the page just above user reviews (there aren't any, thankfully, meaning it's unlikely anyone paid this ridiculous amount)

>>6352922
Why not? Might save some poor guy from getting fucked, I'm no cuck, I don't like to see that shit.

>>6352925

What the heck is the point of this? Pick up the phone. Call their store in Canada. You'd have your new cleaver on its way to you in less time than you're spending taking screenshots. And since you're buying straight from the maker, you're getting the best possible price you can.

>>6352921
It's from fucking Winco, i cant believe it costs that much to buy in the UK

Sorry buddy :/

>>6352934
Canada is literally further away from me than Hong Kong.

>>6352940

Yeah, but they speak english, so I figure that would be less painful for you to do.

I can't decide whether you are unable to pick up the phone and talk to someone due to social anxiety, or if you are worried about talking to the guys in HK when you can't speak cantonese. But clearly you need to do one or the other, as the amount of time spent posting screenshots is longer than it would take to simply resolve the issue and buy your new knife. Therefore I feel the need to push you in one direction or the other given that nothing seems to be getting done. I figured that I'd have better luck with the telephone than the Email.

>>further away
Not very relevant. It's a light item, international shipping is going to cost you about the same either way. But hey, if you'd prefer to deal with Hong Kong, then go for it. Just pick one other other before you waste even more time on this.

>>6352957
I just think it's more likely to be more expensive for me to order from Canada than it will be from Hong Kong, so I just got my girlfriend to email them since she knows enough Cantonese to get by (she's from a Mandarin area). Also for some reason my phone doesn't let me call people outside my country code, I think I need to call my provider and activate it somehow.

>>6352962

Nice. Good luck with it!

The Master

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HV8FPk5qN9k

>>6353731
He has a real good atmosphere about him.

I feel honestly sorry for you OP.

>>6353808
Uh, thanks. I feel nothing for you.

>>6353822

Well, to be honest, the last $10 I spent got me a handle of bottom shelf vodka.

You got yourself a hunk of worthless metal.

I make sure never to run out of booze, so at least you have the excitement factor going for you, I guess...

>>6353850
Godspeed, Drunky the Clown

>>6351782
>people just need to understand that kitchen knives have to be sharpened once in a while.

For that price, you will need surely need to be sharpening it all. the. fucking. time. Low quality steel does not hold an edge for shit.

Enjoy ur dough scraper.

>>6353890
good quality carbon steel is literally cheap as fuck, you should look at what the steel is rather than the price of the item. simple 1095 steel like lots of these cleavers are is cheap as balls and will get as sharp as youd ever need it to be and stay like that. cheap price = shit only really applies to stainless like if its some mystery stainless or 440a or some shit

>>6353890

you'd be surprised. carbon steel holds an edge much better than stainless. that $9.99 cleaver will hold an edge better than most $100 stainless knives, and when it comes time to sharpen it will sharpen much faster.

On the other hand it requires additional care to prevent it from rusting, and the fit & finish (appearance) is crap--if you care about such things.

>>6354850

You'd be surprised. I've got a pile of different carbon knives and they are not all the same. Just because you've got a good quality carbon knife doesn't mean carbon steel is automatically better than stainless. If it's not heat treated well, it's going to have shit edge retention.

>that $9.99 cleaver will hold an edge better than most $100 stainless knives

Let's not get crazy here. I dunno what kind of cutco-grade scam knives you're spending your $100 on, and I have no doubt that there are some awful ones, but there's no comparison between a $9.99 carbon knife that was tempered by the seat of the pants in a chinese sweat shop, and a knife made from a modern stainless cutlery steel tempered in a computer controlled tempering furnace. Sometimes the sweat shop may get it right, but plenty of times they'll get it wrong.

Remember kids, just because not all expensive things are good, it doesn't follow that all cheap things are the best way to stick it to the man. Do your research. Brands do matter.

>>6354863

Oh, I agree with most of your post but those Winco cleavers are actually quite good. I have had the opportunity to use a few of them over the years and I've been happy with all of them.

>>do your research brands do matter
I agree 100%. And if you do your research, you'll find that these are very well regarded considering the price. It's nothing magical, but it's not a piece of crap either. It's excellent value for money.

>arguing about knives

holy fuck how empty are your lives

>>6354863
depending on the grind but carbon steel holds an edge better than stainless.

>>6354954

>>making this pointless of a post

Hello pot, kettle here. This is a discussion board. The point of it is to talk about things. If you didn't want to discuss cooking-related things, such as knives, then why are you here at all?

>>6354954
how new are you

>>6354954
>on the 4chan
>on /ck/
>"Knife Thread"
>doesn't want to argue about knives

>>6354863
>tempered in a computer controlled tempering furnace

Cheap places also use this? You do know that the method that you are trying to push is much more expensive?

>>6354971

Is there a typo in this post? What are you trying to say?

>>6354978
The anon was commenting on the type of temper techniques used in China and they use a computer monitoring system like in more expensive knives...

Why? It's cheaper and faster than 'seat of your pants"

>>6354971
>You do know that the method that you are trying to push is much more expensive?

that was his point: a $100 knife could be expected to be better than a $10 one because the $100 knife may have had a more precise heat treatment.

>>6354989
>may have had a more precise heat treatment.

Heat treatment is the same but the biggest difference is what they allow in the quality check

>>6354985
>It's cheaper and faster than 'seat of your pants"

Affordable computer controlled tempering ovens have not been around for very long and are in no way cheaper than having some sweaty guy press buttons in a certain order based on a piece of cardboard nailed to the wall. Why would an existing factory replace a bunch of "perfectly good" equipment with much more expensive equipment when its $9 cleavers are selling just fine?

>>6355014
that's not what I mean't faggot

>>6355016

What did you mean?

Also if you're driving right now, please just focus on driving. You can post a more coherent response when you're not flying down the road at 70 mph.

>>6355014
>Affordable computer controlled tempering ovens

China does? You do know that the country does not have to follow copyright laws? They can buy these machines from the manufacture who copy and redistributes that product

> are in no way cheaper

How so? They can easily cut down the costs with this method

> expensive equipment when its $9 cleavers are selling just fine

China has a population of a billion people? Guess how they manage to make them so cheap in the first place? Hybrid of modern manufacturing with manual labor

>>6355022

This has nothing to do with copyright laws. If you already have tempering ovens, replacing them means shutting down your facility, buying new equipment, getting that equipment shipped, installed, and configured, re-training your staff (or hiring new staff), and adjusting your processes. All this time you are hemorrhaging money in a cutthroat low cost manufacturing environment and your employees (which probably aren't getting paid during the shutdown) are looking for other work.

>How so? They can easily cut down the costs with this method

You're confusing a Chinese factory making generic product on practically zero profit margins with a high end first world factory with high profit margins selling a premium branded product.

>China has a population of a billion people?

Brilliant observation. You are obviously an expert on this matter and I can see it is no use arguing.

>>6355039
>replacing them means shutting down your facility, buying new equipment, getting that equipment shipped, installed, and configured, re-training your staff (or hiring new staff), and adjusting your processes

This is China? You do understand that the country has several million university graduates working for low wages?

>(which probably aren't getting paid during the shutdown) are looking for other work.

This is a very westernized approach? Chinese University students are required to work at one of these facilities through a partnership program in order to graduate

> Chinese factory making generic product

Working at high yields

>You are obviously an expert on this matter and I can see it is no use arguing.

You have to understand that the demand for these cheap knives are common in China

>>6352776
This somehow made me laugh really hard

>>6355059
>You do understand that the country has several million university graduates working for low wages?
You do understand that despite the trappings of communism, China is in fact a capitalist society and those factories are businesses trying to compete against other businesses to stay alive and make a profit?
>This is a very westernized approach? Chinese University students are required to work at one of these facilities through a partnership program in order to graduate
I don't think Chinese university students are going to look for work in a 60 year old knife factory when there is an enormous demand for skilled low wage work in the electronics industry.
>Working at high yields
Actually zero yields when you shut down the factory.
>You have to understand that the demand for these cheap knives are common in China
I understand it just fine. You seem to be the one confused enough to believe a factory is going to want to shut itself down and replace all its equipment because "there's a billion people" and "software can be copied"

anyone have experience with zhen?

>>6355073
>China is in fact a capitalist society and those factories are businesses

Ok, you do not understand that the schools have partnerships with these factories?

>I don't think Chinese university students

Ok, this is what you think? This how the country functions and why they are able to manufacture at a low cost

>60 year old knife factory

Every University has a partnership program so it depends on the region and how well you are doing in high education

>I understand it just fine

You are confusing East Vs West manufacturing practices

> factory is going to want to shut itself down

Yeah? They want higher yields and this is the best way to meet the demand

>>6355093
>Ok, you do not understand that the schools have partnerships with these factories?
You don't seem to understand that a university intern isn't going to help a factory move product when the production lines are stopped.
>Ok, this is what you think?
It doesn't matter what I think. What matters to a business is when it can't meet its costs because it lost all its customers to the factory down the road after it shut down for a month to redo the production lines.
>This how the country functions and why they are able to manufacture at a low cost
There are a lot of reasons China can manufacture goods at low cost, I hope you don't believe that "university students" is the main reason.
>Every University has a partnership program so it depends on the region and how well you are doing in high education
And every factory has a guaranteed supply of captive workers that it doesn't have to pay no matter what? Ok then.
>You are confusing East Vs West manufacturing practices
How so? Inscrutaberr yerrow man not have to pay suppriers and raborers because confucius say otherwise? You keep saying "but China" but the only difference you've mentioned so far is inapplicable
>Yeah? They want higher yields and this is the best way to meet the demand
That is the best way if you have a loyal customer base and enough money to cover short term losses and the required investments in equipment and training. Neither of these is applicable unless you are something like a Foxconn (which seems to be the model you're erroneously applying here)

>>6355114
>when the production lines are stopped.

They also have people working in modernizing the plant? They have employees for every field

> factory down the road after it shut down for a month

This is not the west? This is China. Everything is done within a day since they have the personal to accomplish it

>I hope you don't believe that "university students" is the main reason.

You do know that employment in China does not work in the same way as in the West? Population of 1 billion. Think about it

>d supply of captive workers that it doesn't have to pay no matter what

Do you know the word 'intern' means? Not only that but they have to work a certain amount of time before they are eligible for graduation.

>loyal customer

You do know that this is China? Brand names churn out faster than the manufacturing

One day it Xio zhan cutlery
Next day Shuan Zhin cutlery
The day after that the name changes to Sea king cutlery

> Neither of these is applicable unless you are something like a Foxconn

You do know that Foxconn is not the only manufacturing facility that does this? Whole country follows this exact same model but many westerners do not know this

>>6355146
>>6355114
>>6355093
>>6355073

All this argument and speculation yet I bet that none of you have ever set foot in Winco's factory. You have no idea how things are actually done. You're guessing and speculating the whole damn time. Why? Let it go.

>>6355152
Shh. They're having fun

>>6355146
>this is China
>but insclutaburr China
I don't think you even know what you mean by that. Have you ever been to China?
>You do know that this is China? Brand names churn out faster than the manufacturing
Ding ding ding! Guess why? Because someone went bankrupt. Do you see why it might come down to making a go with your 60 year old production line, or shutting down? In another 20 years they may all be cranking out the equivalent of S30V for the equivalent of $9, but not because it's the same factory and they upgraded with Confucius power and university interns. But because they didn't survive because they couldn't. It may look the same to you because lolchina, but a business went under after scraping by for a while selling shitty knives to people like you who think China is a black box not subject to the same principles as everyone else.

>>6355270
>Because someone went bankrupt.

No, owner sold the company to someone else? You really don't understand how China even works...

>>6355277

I seem to understand it much better than you with your mystical orientalizing.

>because they sold the business

That's generally what you do when your business fails, yes? Or do you think western businesses burn everything to the ground when they run into trouble?

>>6355294
>That's generally what you do when your business fails, yes?

No. Selling the business implies the business is still successful.

If the business fails then its assets are liquidated (sold to the highest bidder), the proceeds from the liquidation are used to pay off any outstanding debts the company has, and that's that.

>>6355502

What magical "but China" phenomenon do you suppose prevents the assets of a failing knife factory from being broken up and sold off? Is it the billion people, or the interns?

>>6355506

There isn't one. Are you perhaps confusing me with another poster? >>6355502 was my first post in this thread.

Relax the chicken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVHO1JY4Vc8

FWIW I own a winco all steel cleaver that I bought in the chinese supermercado for about $18 and it is absolutely on of my top knives, steel quality is great, it's tough as balls.

only notable feature is that it's relatively soft, I probably have to sharpen it once a year, but this is a good thing for chef's knives, not a bad thing, as the
>muh glereese nippun
>felded over 9000 times
>harder than a diamond made of supermans cum

autists would have you believe

>>6356804
> it's relatively soft, I probably have to sharpen it once a year

You're not using it much then, and your opinion is less valid than you think.

>>6356816

Better than yours, since you don't own one and are simply talking shit.

i use it in meal prep 6 days out of seven, I cook 80% of the family meals, and it's a very good knife. I have many others, ranging from a 90 year old Henckels to an 1875 meat cleaver I use for big game, a Sab K, a Forschner 8" chef's knife and another chinese cleaver made by an American company in the 70s, some garbage tier azn knives from the same supermercado and a set of cheap colored steak knives I plan to throw away

I am an informed knife consumer and user with a nuanced opinion and a very good knowledge on material, workmanship and overall quality

>>6356804
>>muh glereese nippun
>>felded over 9000 times
>>harder than a diamond made of supermans cum

>>6355114
>There are a lot of reasons China can manufacture goods at low cost

Artificial currency manipulation. capital investment cost structure and labor costs are the big three, in that order.


Not that I understand what the fuck anyone is arguing about, China produces a lot of shitty goods, but it also produces quite a lot of very high quality goods, sourcing is a choice.

where 2 buy one of these dank chinese cleavers in the UK?

>>6356901
Aren't knives illegal in the UK?

>>6357004
Not unless you're under 18, or you haven't earned your knife licence.

Isn't it true that in the United States of Total Paranoia, you need a permit to do anything except purchase firearms?

>>6356844
>I'm an informed knife consumer
>I don't actually own any decent quality Japanese knives but I'm going to run my mouth off about 9000 times folded

Ok then...

>>6357017
Don't you have to be 18 to buy spoons?

>>6351776
i dont know where you're from, but bait shops around my house sell forceps for a dollar and they work very well.

>>6357017
You don't need one to purchase knives here.

>>6357144
I know but I needed to to get to $35 for free shipping and forceps were the last thing on my list

>>6357488
You couldn't find that stuff on amazon?
>don't tell me you don't have prime

>>6357493
Couldn't find what?

ITT: pic related

>>6358074
I think it's been bretty gud

other then the cosmetic differences (prefer the JKI one), is there a real difference?

http://www.japaneseknifeimports.com/kitchen-knives-14/kitchen-knives-by-type/gyuto/zakuri-240mm-blue-1-kurouchi-gyuto.html

and
http://www.chefknivestogo.com/zabl124gy.html

>>6358463
s-someone?

>>6358810

No arr same knife. You been here four houa! You go now!

>>6351777
Carbon steel is cheap as fuck, takes a wicked edge and holds it much better than the stainless steels comparable in price.
The only downside is that it stains and patinas with use. But if you know to clean your knives promptly, it shouldn't be hard to keep them free of rust.

>>6353806

>not knowing Martin Yan

>>6353731

Did that nigga just teach the audience how to applaud at the end?

also:

>LOOK AT THAT
>LOOK AT THAT
>LOOK AT THIS

>>6352784
This gives me schadenfreude.

They aren't called yuropoors for nothing

>>6354954
>on a knife thread
>complains about people talking about the various and varying qualities of different knives
>which was the original intent of the post
Holy fuck how empty is your own life?

>>6357017

>>6359204
they aren't...?

>>6357017
I'm an alcoholic and drug addict who has been in a psychiatric hospital a few times. I just walked into a pawn shop and bought a glock 45, had to wait 5 days for it and it cost 700 dollars. But I was literally cracking up as I left the store because of the fact they sold me of all people a gun.

>>6359813
None of those are disqualifiers.

>>6359820
yes obviously, otherwise I wouldn't have a gun right now

I'm just very clearly not the kind of person that should have one imo, so it seemed silly they let me

I guess I'm not violent or anything, so maybe that's all that matters

>>6359824
If you aren't violent that really is all that matters.

>>6358212
Oh shit it's on fire.

>>6359824
It depends why you were in the psych ward- if you were one of the 99.5% of the folks in there for depression, bipolar, or substance rehab, then you're fine to own a gun.

>>6359971

>>6360030

Murrica, where your opinion isn't legally valid if you don't swear on a fictional book, you can't hold public office unless you follow a specific religion, but you can buy machine guns if you have medically documented issues with self-harm, violent mood swings, or drug abuse.

>>6360450
But none of what you said is true

>>6360477

Someone's ability to think has been broken by too much Fox News.

Try unplugging the TV for a couple of years, it might not be too late.

I watch Cspan bitch.

>swear or affirm
>helps but isn't necessary
>has never filled out a 4473 much less form 4

>>6360450
>fictional book
I'm pretty sure the book is real.

>>6360450
I can't buy a firearm without going through a lengthy and slightly expensive process where the local government reserves the right revoke my firearm application for any given reason including none.

All the previous shit you said still applies.

>Murica

>>6358463
up

>>6362361
is it /g/ autismo time yet?
>muh Real Watches by a Watch Company

>>6362368
>Orient Union
I don't do anime, but I did go to /fa/ once

OP your thread got me to buy this fucking knife. i just got it today

HOLY SHIT

i just slice up a frozen salmon fillet so it will defrost faster for a stir fry i'm doing

i'm going to buy like 10 of these fucking things. throwing out all my other knives it's over.

>>6362423
Mine comes Tuesday

ITT viral shills #winning

>>6362504
nah bro. this cleaver is fucking awesome

i sliced up frozen salmon to defrost

then i rekt some jalapenos, green onions, and garlic. it was like putting it through a food processor. shit was effortless

i'm fucking sold.

>>6362504

Nope. he's right. I have an all metal Winco and it is my goto for everything.

Chinese food processor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WB63jGZltw

> CCK still hasn't responded to my email

>>6363012
Call

>>6363187

I don't speak Cantonese.

>>6353731
That was fantastic. brb buying a Chinese cleaver and throwing out all my other knives.

>>6363217
Call the Canadians. Not the French ones
>>6363373
You watch all of the parts? I wish there was more

>>6363399
Nah I just watched that first one, and then after posting my comment I saw the one with him breaking down the chicken. Used to watch Yan Can Cook every fucking day back when I was a kid though.

I've never been to this part of the country, but I can only assume it's a shithole considering the guy has been driving two days straight to get away from there.

Bmp

>>6366983

Fuggin awesome

What knives does an avid home cook NEED? Here's what I can think of.
8" chefs knife
Paring knife
Boning knife
Carving knife
Cleaver
Anything I'm missing? Also, how are victorinox knives? Can they be beaten for the price?

>>6367091

I'd grab a cheap santoku because some things are faster to chop if you're whacking at it as opposed to how you'd use a chefs knife

oh and I love offset cerrated knives

I've yet to find a better knife for the price than victorinox. All my important knives are wushtof but all my beater knives are victorinox. Don't buy dexter knives, they're almost the same price and they're shit.

>>6367091
>NEED
The first 2 on your list. Chef's and paring. After that, a bread knife.

>>6367100
Wonderful, thank you for putting my mind at ease. I have a santoku already, I do love it. But, I like things to match, haha.

>>6352776
lol so it's /tv/ trigger too

>>6367091
NEED:
chef's knife

Useful:
paring knife

Useful if you eat delicious, crusty breads (which you should, they're delicious):
bread knife

Special Purpose:
all else

>>6367112
You need a sharp knife, not a bread knife

>>6367115
hence the sharp knife being under NEED.

Old Hickory. Anything else is pointless.

>>6360030
Yep. Let's sell guns to that depressed guy and even further derail the thread.

Just since we're on the subject, scrambled eggs or over easy eggs. Which is best?

>>6367256
Both have their place.

nothing like a good old /ck/ knife thread

I recently handled a couple of Japanese knives recently and was surprised at how light they were. Can you efficiently chop with them?
>>6356901
Chinese supermarkets tend to have them. Where do you live?

>>6367100
Dexter is the same quality as vic more or less.

>>6367350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdXCz26kurk I'd say so.

>>6367636

>holding knife sideways awkward as fuck
>bad posture
>shitty blade control
>inconsistent sizes
>collateral damage
>can't into tomato doesn't know how


>BONK BONK BONK BONK BONK

I thiink that video gave me cancer.

>>6367796
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gNfoPJxl6I any better

>>6368168
>living down south you'd think people would have better knives with all the food we cook
Not if it's just butter and deep fried HFCS...

>>6368168

some better, looks like he took a class and he's standing up straight at least but he can't shut the fuck up, he needs to learn to work and talk at the same time.

here's a guy running a gyuto i like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUuA88EWkzQ

that's what knife skills mean to me, total consistency

>>6368499
I wish nenohi weren't so ridiculously expensive because they are really nice

>>6368499
His was mostly a review.
IIRC he was a chef or cook at one point

>chinese knives
>japanese knives
>french knives
>german knives

Why aren't there any indian knives? they cook like madmen in india, why don't they have their own knife style?

>>6368630
200 years of British dominion will do that.
The English aren't known for their knives, either.

>>6368665

>what is Sheffield

also i think it was more like 400 years

don't get the hype about this or that kinda knife. Got a steak knife set 10 years ago and have used it to cut everything. meat, vegetables, fruit. use it at the table in place of normal knives. Never failed or let me down.

>>6368684
Is this you?
>>6352342

>>6368698
it worked just fine

>>6351774
Ok so i finally gave in and ordered this fucking winco meme knife i keep hearing about, better be good or im gonna be pissed OP

>>6368684
Well ofcourse you can use your old steak knives to cut up all your food in the same way i could use a cheap ass 1980's Daewoo to get to work, wear $15 K-mart running shoes and attempt to play games on the PC i had like 10 years ago.

Yeah they do the same job, but they do it nowhere near as nice as a proper quality tool for the job, plus you cant chop shit with a serrated steak knife so you're stuck slicing up shit one by one like a retard and taking 10x as long as someone with the right tool

>>6367091
10" chefs knife. I find myself wanting the extra length quite often. Offset breadknife is the way to go. Yeah you can use a sharp knife. But a good bread knife makes even the most soft and fresh bread a piece of cake. The victorinox is by far the best knife you can buy for the money. Some people will knock the santoku but they are efficient when you are chopping up a shit load of veggies and such. Makes a good scoop too. I use a boning knife more often than I thought I would. It also saves my chefs knife from getting beat up.

>>6369174

I paid $18 for mine and it was well worth it

at $10 online, I think you will feel like you would probably have spent $30-40 on in absolute quality wise.

I'd rate it as equal or better to Dexter/Chicago/Forschner in quality, which means absolutely fine if not exceptional, and it's a way better chinese cleaver than any of the western knockoffs for obvious reasons

>>6369330
>The victorinox is by far the best knife you can buy for the money

Dexter-Russel is literally the exact same thing but it has a lower price because it wasn't named in a fancy magazine review.

>>santoku
And if you're chopping veggies and need a "scoop" a chinese-style cleaver is even better.

I've been using an $11 santoku knife as my main knife that I do everything except cut steak at my dinner table, it's excellent.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UAUKSC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Was super sharp and it's gotten duller over the year. Not sure if worth investing in gear to sharpen or just buy a new one.

>>6369174

what's your delivery time, can we keep this thread alive until 0day?

Euhr-do, terubiaki no seyongu t-chaipei. Nai soro, myiangi ai no li chenybora.

The maildyke is in possession of the package

>>6372823

>>6371711
none of that moonspeak around here, my lad.

>>6372963
That what imma look like after work. Have too many leftovers to make dinner tonight so I'm just going to stop and get cucumbers, onions, and jalapeños to make refrigerator pickles

>>6353731
what a faggot

>LOOK AT ME
>LOOK AT ALL MY SHIT

>>6373121
It's a demonstration. You're supposed to be looking at his shit.

>>6372823

>where's the fucking mail

>>6373121

because you can totally slice a cucumber like that, amirite?

>blindfolded
>while drunk
>on a bad day
>with your off hand

that shit is good technique for a professional, kid. watch and learn, don't shitpost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=0kB_Gl_8v-4#t=280


>Julia Child Chinese voice activated
>CUT
>PUT>CUT
>PUT>CUT
>PUT>CUT
>PUT

top lawls, my friends

>>6352342
i could not finish that. i assume there's nothing but blood at the end.

Do anybody know about a brand called "zwilling"? I could get one of those for real cheap (like, 15€).

>>6375496
that'd be a german company Zwilling J.A Henckles id assume, good brand but they have a range from top stuff to budget stuff, either way a chef knife (im assuming) for that price sounds like a good deal

>>6375496
They're a good alternative to wusthof's line.
Their budget stuff is pretty good from what I think i've heard.
For that price it's not much of a gamble.

>>6359262
Getting them DRY after you clean them is key. I have a cast iron meat grinder. For all you who don't know, cast iron is steel with a carbon content above a certain % (I think it's 11.5) When I clean it, I rinse it in very hot water and towel it immediately. The metal is hot from the water and that helps to dry any moisture left on the surface of the metal. I put a light film of mineral oil on it and store it in plastic bag with rice as a desiccant without issue. I do the same with my cleaver, which has a carbon blade, but I forego the desiccant and put it in a drawer.

>>6375782

the dessicant is serious overkill.

rinse the knife with hot water and wipe it dry. Like you said the residual heat from the hot water dries it quickly. there should be no need to oil it every time, just every once in a while.

>>6368684
>>6369192
aren't they all serrated?
I've never seen a difference. steak knife works jut fine

>>6375496
Get the twin signature line, not the international.

If it's made in Spain it's not a bad knife, but the ones from Germany are nicer. Their 4 star line is top tier. R.H. Forschner makes a good knife and you can pick up the wooden handled ones used for cheap.

>>6375749
They're from the same town in Germany, either is a nice knife.

>>6374608
i enjoyed

>>6375802
Yup, thats why I said they were an alternative.
I still wouldn't mind getting a Wusthof.
Just bought a Masakage Yuki Gyuto yesterday as a foray into the world of nice knives.
My only real issue with wusthof is the massive bolster reaching the end of the blade.

>>6367100
>dexter, same cost, they're shit
What planet are you from? On par with finbrox, and you can often find them for less cost.

>>6375782
>11.5%
way too much, 2.06%

>>6376159

My experience has been the same. They are functionally identical. Several years ago the prices were the same, but since Victorinox/Forschner has gotten some good press online the price of them has gone up.

I just checked Amazon, and for 8" chef's knives the Victorinox with the fibrox handle is $39.99. The Dexter (same size, also with the plastic handle) is $17.70.

How well do Dexter knives work? Got a set through school and wondering if they work well in a kitchen.

>>6376873
you find them and similar shit in a lot of kitchens.
Shit I work at a dining hall on a university campus and I THINK we might use shit like dexter or something.
They're made for the kitchen, lol.

>>6351777
Winco is a pretty damn good knife for the price, just gonna keep them sharp. But at their price there's really no worry about running them into the ground.

>>6375918
The top is my 8"chef's knife and it is a twin signature.
The bottom is my 6 inch slicer and it is a twin for star II.

I'm not super fond of the bolster either which is why I prefer the signature, despite the four star being a more expensive knife.

OP here. Still haven't used it. Was only home for a second and took this to show a friend. Quite sharp OOB. Handle is solid, which was the only thing I was worried about as it was so cheap. Wrapped the thin cardboard sheath with some Sprouts ads and packing tape late last night.

>>6377218
So you'll be cleaning fish with these knives outdoors or even on a boat/pier then? If so, anyone who criticizes buying a lots cost clever for taking off fish heads is pretty dumb. I used to fish on a pier at the beach and I used a $5 fillet knife that was crap steel and had to be touched up after every trip, but it worked fine and was perfect for using at a cleaning stain with saltwater coming out the faucet and water below you.

>>6377256
The cleaver isn't really for fish. I just eat a lot of vegetables. The filet knife is cheap too, sporting goods store tier, but it's stainless and meant to be treated like shite

>>6377213
Yea, I read a lot of shitty things about most of wusthof's stuff that didn't have the bolster (IE Most of the non classic line) Though, they have a Le Cordon Bleu line as well. Similar without the bolster, but meh.

>>6362368
>>6362361
>No G-Shocks

Plebs.

>>6377471
It's right here

>>6377218

ayy lmao

>op delivers
>the mail delivers

cool beans, let us know what you think after you try it

>>6360450
Buttmad nofuns detected

>>6377314
Get a chef's knife. Thank me later.

>>6378858
Have several. Try hard elsewhere.

>>6351774
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