/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6317557
That's corporate policy, and anything but a "creative idea" you dumb faggot.

>begging for tips at a fast food job
what the fuck am I reading

>>6317563
>>6317565
If customers had no problem giving tips why should the higher ups give a shit.

>>6317574
obviously, you're not a student of economics

>>6317578
Tips would only encourage fast food workers to work harder instead of slacking all day. Obviously everyone benefits from my idea.

>>6317557
>it's a success and people are tipping even if I don't remind them there's a tip jar on the counter

Quit wendy's three months ago after telling my cunt manager to go fuck herself and left mid shift. Didn't feel bad because she'd sent two closers home already becsuse she 'didn't like them' and was screaming at me all night. She refused to open front and drive thru sections on a massive busy night (my store usually got 50 to ~70 dollar orders like crazy when there was a game nearby.

Refused to help. Just snatched sandwiches outof my hands and dropped a bunch and yelled constantly. Had also thrown away ALL veggie prep from morning shift when she got there because thanksgiving wss the next day, so was running back and forth using the sharp as hell tomato slicer whenever i had a second.

When she screamed that i wasn't going fast enough in the middle of about 20 jr bacons i just snapped and left. Fast food never fuckin again.

>>6317578
It is supply and demand at work, he supplies the jar, customers provide the tips he demands.

:3

>>6317584
No they don't, and they shouldn't be slacking all day in the first place. Beyond the economics that you do not grasp, it leaves in place an easily exploited system with no oversight, and opens the employer up to tax penalties if not properly recorded.

tl:dr Fuck off kid.

They probably fucking thought it was for a charity you fuckhead.

>>6317557
Yeah that is lame man. But money in the tip jar, is that extra change they didn't spend on another burger or coffee to go.

'Don't want to break this $20, I'm out'

>Tip jars

Why does every asshat have this idea? These stores are franchised not part of cooperate. Meaning that they have to follow whatever cooperate wants and tipping jars are frowned by the industry and creates a problem with taxes

>>6317596
Nope the IRS will rain on them for not collecting taxes on these tips

>>6317594
>No they don't, and they shouldn't be slacking all day in the first place.

this. /thread

>>6317584
>my idea
i've never had a more appropriate use for this gif

>>6317621
>>6317594
>No they don't, and they shouldn't be slacking all day in the first place
guys cmon, be real. life isnt like that

the part about the tax penalties sounds real tho
Whats up with the economics of it tho?

>>6317614

The employers will simply claim the tips on their taxes as that's the right thing to do.

>>6317633
except then they would be in breach of their franchise contract

>>6317628
>At first glance, tipping appears to benefit the workers being tipped. It's a simple voluntary transfer from the tipper to the tippee.

>One level deeper, it looks like the benefits goes instead to the employer. The addition of tipping raises total compensation, so the employer can cut back on wages and benefits by an amount equal in the workers' perceptions to the value of their tips.

>However, tipping is also effectively a price increase. Assuming demand curves slope downwards, this reduce quantity sold unless McDonald's cuts their list prices to compensate for the tips. Probably the latter, since McDonald's presumably sets their prices at the level they expect to maximize revenue.

>Taking all this into account:

>The buyer is trading increased transaction costs (having to figure out how much to tip) for the ability to directly reward or punish the employee by varying the tip amount (which may result in better service). May be a benefit or a loss, depending on the customer.

>The employee gets higher variance in compensation, since a portion of their pay is now dependant on how much their customer chooses to tip. Total compensation is probably slightly higher, to offset the increased variance. On average, this is probably a wash.

>McDonald's suffers menu costs from adjusting their list prices and wage schedule, and they may gain or lose customer base at the same after-tip prices depending on how their marginal customers weigh the pros/cons of tipping. Probably a loss, based on the assumption that McDonald's policy of not encouraging tipping is rational.


Granted this does not happen over night, nor does it mention that it indirectly gives help to the competition, and the drastically different expectations of customer service between sit-downs and fast food.

>giving retarded shitposters attention

No one is this dumb, guys.

>>6317641
do businesses really adjust their wages based on the presence of a tip jar

>>6317628
>life isn't like that
I bet you sandbagged when you worked fast food

>>6317655
not on a level of "tip jar? okay ten cents less an hour" but "should we do a raise? nah, they got that tip jar so that should cover it"

>>6317661
i didnt work fast food bruh but i worked at a golf course

its so fucking hard to be "on" the entire shift, you should try it sometime

>>6317594
>they shouldn't be slacking all day in the first place
Of course they should, it's in their interest to do so. Do you even Marx?

>>6317655
Most tipped employees make less than minimum wage prior to tips.

>>6317557
You put a tip jar at a fast food joint...
You douchebag of douchebags
You make the food and set it on the counter.
You deserved to be fired.
Jimmies are rustled

>>6317589
That sucks, good on you for standing up for yourself.

>>6317594

Loved how you verbally slapped the SHIT out of the FAGGOTS of the thread

>4 years ago
>manager of a frozen yogurt shop (COT) owned by retarded korean owner
>i keep the place clean and lead it fairly well, very well liked by my staff of 4 hood rat high school girls who are surprisingly very good workers, but are typical sluts, tell me their stories about their parties and one had multiple abortions, whatever
>korean owner decides to hire another male because he thinks there might be legal issues from having 4 girls and one guy
>he hires this fucking moron who never worked a day in his life and is CLEARLY high on weed, but the korean owner doesn't know any better and doesn't understand what I say to him since his english is fucking garbage
>despite being manager, owner is the one that makes the shifts, begins shifting that guy more
>noticable complaints about cleanliness from my usual customers, guy is a fucking slacker
>a couple of months later, my horrors are realized when i visit him at his shift and happen to see a roach in the kitchen
>my head explodes and i yell at him, he's high so he doesn't really understand what the problem is
>he doesn't realize that if you see one roach, you are probably already fucked with a family of them
>i start inspecting everywhere and find that some cut fruit that fell behind a table that HE likes to cut the fruit on (out of camera view, likes to have his phone out and shit)
>fruit is being eaten by roaches
>i inspect the entire kitchen, i find fucking roaches and roach mothers carrying roach eggs EVERYWHERE FUCK FUCK
>the stupid fuck doesn't rack the dishes, so i inspect the tubes that go into the yogurt machines and there are ROACHES FUCKING HIDING IN THE TUBES
>my head is spinning that this guy comes in two months and let's the place go to shit
Here's the kicker
>call owner and tell him we have a huge fucking roach problem, we need to call an exterminator
>NO no no, CANNOT CALL EXTERMINATOR, IF WE HAVE TO CLOSE STORE FOR MORE THAN 1 DAY, BANKRUPT, NO GOOD NO GOOD. YOU ARE MANAGER, FIND SOLUTION
cont.

>>6318938
you are manager and don't have the authority to fire this clown? fire him anyway.

>>6318938

>this fucking guy, i cannot believe how fucking cheap he's being about this shit
>i rush to the store and buy roach traps and borax and set them throughout the store
>within the week, all the roach traps are fucking FILLED with roaches
>so full that roaches are now just crawling over roaches, some of them are living under the fucking traps
>a few had roaches mothers where the eggs hatched and the roachlings got stuck, but the ones that got stuck created a bridge for the other roaches to escape
>FUCK FUCK FUCK
> for some fucking crazy reason, only one customer ever sees a roach in the dining area, and doesn't even complain, just pulls me aside and lets me know
> i tell the owner that he needs to get a fucking exterminator here or im going to quit or another customer will see it and we'll be closed for more than just one fucking day when the health inspector comes
>after 2 weeks of me nagging him, he calls an exterminator
>the exterminator is some fucking korean guy who he knows and he strikes a deal in exchange for his silence
>exterminator is fucking horrified but gets to work
>1 week later we are free and clear of roaches
>owner doesnt fire pot head retard who started the whole problem
>i get a job offer at a real company and hilariously, the day before i left, i saw a roach mother run past the hall way
>i dont do shit, warn the girls i worked with they should probably look for new jobs, they all agree and they eventually end up leaving after i leave
>2 weeks after i left, i make an annonymous report to the health inspector regarding a roach infestation at a certain yogurt shop
>i check yelp and see all these negative reviews after i left about cleanliness issues and possible roach sightings
>closes down after a couple months

NEVER EVER work for asian employers who have shit english

>>6318958

I was the manager, but the owner wanted control over who was hired / fired / schedules

So in reality, I was a manager in that I had to deal with the angry customers and do all the orders and discipline employees, but I could only issue "warnings" which didn't mean shit at all since the pothead fucker had like 57 some odd warnings from me by the time I left.

The owner LITERALLY told me that he didn't want me to have too much power as a manager and that he is the owner in his fucking broken english. I had so many fucking ideas to get the place more popular for kids and make it a more popular hang out since it was adjacent to a high school, but he shot down every idea because
> Oh no, no, too much expense
> We Ok, just keep managing

>>6318938
>there are ROACHES FUCKING HIDING IN THE TUBES

This triggered me pretty hard.

>>6317589
Good job man, I rarely see stories here where someone comes up for themselves.

>>6317661
>sandbagged

Could you explain this term to a non native speaker?

>>6319037
It means you could have done better/worked harder, but purposefully did not.

>>6319050
Oh right I hate that shit. Two of my co-workers do this shit and it's infuriating.

One acts like it's my fault when he has to do a TON of shit after my shift ends and I've busted my ass off. He even filed a few complaints with the manager about me "slacking off". Manager never even spoke to me about it because he knew it's bullshit.

The other just pretends he's super busy with important stuff even though I know he's just being an inefficient asshole who wants to hang out with the girls. I don't mind it as much as the first guy, but it's annoying when you see him getting all stressed when work starts piling up.

>>6319037
Pipe down, goldbricker

>>6317589
Fast food management are notoriously among the worst on earth. Because if you had actual people skills, you wouldn't be wasting your time at fucking Wendy's, you'd be at a real company. It fucking sucks, too. Fast food jobs are shitty enough as it is. But the retarded drama queens make it by far one of the worst experiences in a person's life. I would sometimes daydream about shoving my face into the deep fryer and ending it all.

>>6318964
awesome story
glad it all worked out for you

>>6319107

What pisses me off is that I genuinely cared about the image and the health of the fucking business. The owner was just about EXPENSES, PROFIT and had no clue about how improving the place could increase his profits. I feel stupid for caring so much when the owner didn't really.

Another side story
>we got our fruit weekly from an old Iranian guy who owned a small grocery store he owned
>really nice guy, he knows my mom who is a manager of the bank and helped him out a lot, always gave her and me free stuff, he moved here with nothing from Iran, american dream type, hard worker
>he extended deals to owner because i was the manager even though he owed nothing to the owner
>he gets his fruit from driving from San Bernardino to Los Angeles wholesale food district to get the quality fruit right from distributor
>it's a couple more dollars, but the fruit is always fresh, lasts a long time, delicious
>owner of the store starts complaining about how fruit is too expensive and slowly starts going to costco to save on fruit prices, but he isn't really saving because we lose like 1/5th of it to spoilage, bland flavors, obviously poor quality, customers even begin to notice
>i tell the owner that its not worth it, but his pocket book says otherwise
>at the point where he is only fucking ordering like a case of raspberries from the Iranian guy, yet he's still kind enough to drive out there and go out of his way to deliver to our shop in hopes we might order more
>eventually he gets fed up (fucking surprising because the old Iranian guy is easily the nicest man i've genuinely ever met) and tells the owner that he no longer will bring us any more fruit because he isn't ordering enough and isn't worth the drive
>owner is legitimately surprised and upset that the armenian quit and complained about how we have been long time customers despite making him drive a good 20 minutes out of the way for fucking $12 box of raspberries and that "he bad businessman"

Embarrassing.

I don't care. I still like Wendy's. a single, ltm and chilli. or even a baked potato, chilli and and a single. Wish there was one close.Your boss was right to fire you, never heard of tipping there.I like them, don't be ashamed, we all fu um mess up What is past is past. I really like the chilli baked potato.and attitude. at most or fries. not allowed.

>>6319166
fuck

your stories made me remember my old FOB korean landlord, it was aggravating and often confusing ordeal.

he refused to let me hang my TV on the wall even the wall mount used adhesives that don't damage the wall

I see him a few days later nails plastic carpet protecters INTO the brand new carpet he got done.

Once month it rained heavily and the basement flooded a few feet. The floor drain where the water coming from could only accommodate one electric pump I had and did not pump water out fast enough.

Once the basement was cleaned out, instead of getting a sump pump installed, he just got his migrant korean workman to cut a big hole in the concrete floor around the drain so it accommodate more electric pumps next time it flooded. It flooded numerous times after that.

>>6317584
I ASSURE you from my experience in the restaurant industry that tips do not make people work harder. If anything they become entitled to them for the same effort.

>>6319226

Yeah, mine was the same way. I knew for a fact that anything I tried to explain to him made no sense to him so I never bothered.

Another fun story:
>late night, im at home
> get a call from employee that police are here, need to speak with manager
>i rush out in my sleeping wear, which is just a pair of sleeping pants and white shirt
>store is literally 3 blocks from where i live
>police is there, a lady got her purse jacked from her car outside our store
>lady is crying, police point out that we have surveillance cameras attached to the roof of our store that point to the shop, they would like me to access it
>I only have access to the inner store cameras since they are in the office, never seen the outdoor ones anywhere, tell them Ill call the owner and ask him where they are
>call owner, he's annoyed that i call him this late at night
>i mention what happen and he doesn't seem to care, but as soon as i say police he goes POLICE WHAT HAPPEN
> i tell him to tell me where i can extract the footage from the camera thats pointing to the parking lot
> he tells me that the camera is fake, its just there to deter criminals from spraying graffiti on the wall (which didn't work because the windows are covered in knife marks)
>my heart fucking sinks to the ground
> i tell the officer and he gives me this look of disgust, the lady who got jacked starts crying again because we pretty much realize that shes not going to get anything back

Mini story:
>employee gets held up at gun point one evening
>employee opens register and gives him the money
>owner rushes over and gets mad at the employee and asks him why he didn't try to stop the burglar or try to convince him to not take the money

Not even fucking kidding at all. That guy is a huge piece of shit. I'm glad it went under.

Chinese and Korean owners are extreme shit. Avoid at all costs. I worked for a few in my life and there was never an exception.

>>6319257

Oh, I forgot to mention:

The owner had 4 cameras which pointed AT THE cash registers from different angles to ensure employees didn't steal any money. he had 3 in the kitchen area to make sure people didn't slack off.

He had one pointing at ONE of the TWO doors in the customer area.

And he remote accessed them frequently from his home and would report to me anyone he thought was not working hard enough, or would call them directly and tell them to stop slacking off and do some work.

>>6319085
Not to mention the entire store wss hispanic run and the few white people were treated like dirt. I was the most consistent and speedy sandwich maker there and my times and station were always up to par. But when the mexican ladies were on shift they'd just blah blah blah all dzy with thr manager while moving at the pace of a snail because they got special treatment. While sending me to go do their bitch work and giving me the busiest nights.

One time some bitch fucked up a sixty dollar order the day before becausr she was on the phone and i had to remake the whole thing next day in the middle of a rush while my manager sat in the break room with two other employees harping on. It was fucking mexico in there constantly.

>>6317557
Not a tipper but damn that's a dumb manager

>>6317628
It's a part of commerce, and if enough money is changing hands of course the government wants a piece of it. The government will tax anything as long as it means more money for them.

>>6317667
I've worked solo shifts at a quick serve restaurant for 12 solid hours and being "on" when there's no manager to palm someone off on, or no staff to rely on to prep extra stuff is the stuff nightmares are made out of. I deserved my fucking tip jar.

>work alone 7 days a week at local diner
>beg the boss to hire on more help for me because i can't keep up during the lunch and dinner rush
>being the jew he is, he hires his 16 year old niece
>shes dumber than a pile of shit, can't even make scrambled eggs, sits on her phone all day
>alright cunt, it's almost lunch rush, i need sliced onions and tomato ready to go
>starts to cut an onion and shes failing horribly at it
>decided to apply more weight to knife but puts the sharp end up
>i watch in stunned horror and she puts the sharp end up while apply pressure with the other hand
>she does this twice before she notices shes made two massive slices into her own hand
>blood everywhere, shes screaming
>grab towel, rush her to the emergency room two blocks down
>boss man comes in and nearly punches me in the face, goes off on me and fires me on the spot
>not because his niece was injured, but that i left the place open and he thought people stole money from the cash register

two weeks later the place burned down, i have a suspicion it was for insurance money

never work for jews

>>6318964
>so full that roaches are now just crawling over roaches
>a few had roaches mothers where the eggs hatched and the roachlings got stuck, but the ones that got stuck created a bridge for the other roaches to escape

>>6317557
>Reminding someone that they have the opportunity to tip
I'd tip my foot into your upper intestine you fucking obnoxious cunt.

>>6317667
I work at a bar, my job is to observe ALL patrons drinking to keep awareness of their levels of intoxication, otherwise I, personally, can be slapped with a $5000 fine and the business that of $50'000.

Ausfag here. It's not hard to keep focused for 8+ hours at a time.

>get $5 if someone does the online feedback survey, rates the store positively, and says you were their server
And that's how you do tipping in fast food.

>>6317675
I've worked on a line in a real restaurant and a fast food place. trust me when I say I would much rather give you the finger for being this kind of asshole to the fast food worker than to the restaurant one. Restaurant jobs are easier, in the corporate modle of fast food it is nothing like a restaurant and more like being part of an impossible school grading system. you are expected to smile, come up with a new welcome phrase on the fly rather than a stock one, maintain eye contact, greet the customer in 5 seconds (which gets hilarious when you factor in the difference in space between the rest of your responsabilities) upsale products even when they already said "I just want this to go thats all" get the customers drink before they finish paying for their meal, make sure all areas are mopped and swept to the point where there is no more than 3 obvious blemishes in the whole lobby, you will be penalized for not doing this no matter how busy you are, inlcuding the bathrooms and any grafiti the chuckle fucks do, same rule applies in duplicate to the parking lot, where any cigarrette and random trash left above 3 at the time of your audit gets you a red x for that. you must deliver your food to the drive through within 50 seconds to 75 seconds no matter how big their order is, and you are penalized heavily if the car sits there after youve handed the food over while the customer picks their nose. you are penalized for every mis-touch on the menu screen even if you delete it and change it to the right product, or if the customer just wants to change their product to something else. you are penalized for each smuge mark on a window or reflective surface you are penalized if they use a cupon, you are penalized if your trash bins are 75% full, you (one person) are expected to do almost every responsability here except drive through at all times, your customers will be variable, but it doesn't matter if you are busy, if the auditor comes, you'll get served.

>>6319923
You ever end up in fights with patrons?

>>6319962
That's also why in a restaurant that serves 100-200 covers a night you have a frontline staff of 4ish people.

In a fast food joint that serves double that (time period, cooking etc. ratio) you have about 50 staff around.

>>6319962
>product is supposed to be bagged and tumbled in cinnamon sugar for 30 seconds minimum
>employee does not tumble for the required time
>auditor notices and denies assistant manager a $10,000 perfect inspection bonus
If you think you get served, your boss gets served even harder, because anything you do wrong reflects on them.

>>6319978
>50 staff
>at the same time
>in a fast food joint
nigger are you fucking serious
this restaurant must be GIGANTIC
even on a Friday night your average McD's will not have more than 15 people working, usually closer to 10-12

>>6319973
Nope, verbal arguments but I never lose my cool.
It's way to satisfying having some ape yelling in your face and you not giving any reaction.

I let them finish and then point out that their behaviour towards me just then violates our customer policies or something along those lines and that their behaviour warrants me asking them to leave and then calling for police assistance if they don't go quietly.

At this point security is around the corner and most people put their heads down and walk out.

>>6319962
the addition of customers makes work especially stressful becuase you must stop whatever you are doing, let them walk all over the area you just mopped greet them, take their order, go out, mop for another 3 seconds, and have another customer show up..

The problem isn't the individual steps, the problem is that they are all expected as a minimum requirement, this isn't "you do all these and you're golden" but you'll do all these or we're going to penalize you very heavy, and if you fail we'll get you some new management. The manager knows their neck is on the line, they dont care if what they want is impossible, their job is to push you to do and do and do. it seems to make the people who manage there insane, I've been called out a good handfull of times to do something a different way because if we don't we;re going to recieve down marks, but the manager doesn't seem to put the effort in to fixing the sanitizer dispenser for the washing station.

I sometimes hypothesis that this whole thing is rigged to vet managers in order to be slave drivers. see which ones crack under pressure, and which ones are comfortable holding a blade against a table grinder and using up more and more wheels of the grinder. picking up new blood as the old is spilt. which one can get the employees to quit first or meet expectations. (since firing and the like is undesirable, you wind up with cut hours). which ones can juggle the impossible assortment of tasks the best. Its certainly not designed to be winnable.

Most restuarants expect you to keep up with one situations work flow, and be able and willing to help another person do something on the fly. when shit gets rough, you are normally side by side with your superior battling it out, not under the lense of some dispassionate asshole counting every small error. you will be appricaited for cleaning all those things in the first paragraph, but aren't expected to have it done during a rush or suffer.

>>6319978
I have never seen more than 5 people work a night in a taco bell buddy. we certainly get more customers than 400 covers a night.

>>6319984
Really, the 24 hour McD's around the corner of my house has 4 on hotplate, 4 on fryer, about 10 at counter, 2 on drivethru 5 or 6 others floating around, then there's the 1 or 2 supervisors/managers, the dude who clears tables, the klan of kleaners who are ALWAYS mopping, window washing, toilet scrubbing etc.

I'm sorry, I exaggerated, it's somewhere around the 20+ mark.

>>6320005
>>10 on counter
I have never seen a mcdonalds with more than 4 registers, I'm not sure I want to know what this mcdonalds looks like.

suffice it to say your experiance is not typical around the world or country.

>>6318885
>verbally

>>6320012
>never seen a mcdonalds with more than 4 registers
I pretty sure your experience isn't typical either

>>6320018
I haven't seen a McD's with 4+ registers either, but if someone said they exist, I wouldn't doubt it. The McD's closest to me has two drive-thrus and that still blows my mind.

>>6320002
>work a graveyard shift that is regularly assigned three people
>even on fridays
>even on truck night
>constantly getting shit from other shifts and other managers for being slow/not finishing
>stuck here until at least May
Please kill me.

>>6317641
>hesrightyouknow.tiff

I will visit a place far more infrequently if they have a jew-jar in place. Goddamnit, stop trying to pretend you can compete by having lower prices, but then having a tip jar to compensate via guilting me into paying more. Fuck you. Price your product correctly.

>>6319962
I've done both and a fast food place is ment to be fast. I don't know if you've noticed but most of the food is heat and assemble so if your teams can't get it done then you're fucking retarded and quit acting like it's soo hard. It's literally you doing a simple job fast and there are lunch rushes but the whole day isn't that unless you're in a high traffic area but, even then it's not as bad. I'm not tipping for a heat and assemble . You know your job? Plus I don't treat industry workers bad but no they don't deserve a tip. You sir are an entitled brat that probably spits in people's food hih?

>>6317557
>Taking money off customers without telling your employers

No shit you got fired you dumb fuck.

>>6318938
>>6318964
>Telling a story about a stoner
>Surprised that he brings the roaches
WELL FUCKING DUH! 420 BLAZE IT FGT

>>6321512
upwards kek

>>6319923

Why the $5000 fine? Nanny state much?

I mean I realize that having someone die from alcohol poisoning might be bad. But it would be pretty obvious if a client is even close to that state.

>>6321558
If it's so obvious, and a bartender still keeps pouring shots, then why shouldn't he get a slap on the wrist when the predictable happens? Is it because the free market will deprive him of precisely $5000 in revenue through the mechanism of the invisible hand?

>>6321569

You could just tell the patron that he's had enough at that point. Did you even read the post I was replying too where he stated he needed to watch every fucking patron like a hawk for 8 hours+ straight and keep track of their every move?

There's common sense and there's nanny state.

>>6317667
It's really not, if you have an actual incentive to work. If you're some arrogant lazy faggot that only needs a job to pay his high school weed dealer, then yeah I guess it's hard to be "on" your whole shift. If you're working for rent money it's not hard at all.

>>6317574
>becuz muh capitalism

>>6321577

You're saying the bartender shouldn't face repercussions if he ignores common sense? That's "nanny state" to you?

If I murder someone I guess the nanny state should get off my back because I shouldn't murder so why is there punishment?

>>6321632

>be me
>put semen on food
>manager finds out
>kicks me out

what the fug?

>>6319174

>work in fast food restaurant
>kind of a bad area
>once a week a homeless guy comes after we close and masturbates outside of window
>third night working there, he shows up
>yanks his wanky
>call the cops
>"Alright sir, we'll need to see the security footage"
>call GM to ask how to access footage
>he tells me the cameras broke some months ago and it was too expensive to have them repaired
>constantly getting called in to work on my nights off when all the on-shift employees are female
>they don't feel safe without me there
>I'm 5'6", 120 lbs, zero muscle mass
>they probably just want to fuck me
>this job is okay

>>6317557
Your boss Was correct

>>6317557
My boss fired me when he caught me and another male employee blowing each other in the bathroom.

>>6321731
I'm only kidding.

>>6321626
>UNDERAGE
Aren't you late for your art 101 class?

>>6321737
No you're not

>>6319887
Did you fuck the niece

>>6319887
in all fairness you were a dumbass for not taking the extra seconds to lock up, it's not like she was gonna die or anything

>>6321577
>>6321558
Why do you react? He makes keeping tabs on who as drunk what amount, and makes it sound like its bigger job than it is.
The fact Australia bothers to enforce the policy it made, its fun.

>>6317655
pizza delivery workers

>>6321558
Because if the customer goes out and gets in a car accident and it turns out he's drunk as a skunk, the liability falls upon the bar he just came from for not cutting off his liquor.

Working for minorities or jews is a nightmare: the thread.

I agree, though. Up until this point I have been fortunate enough to not have any minority bosses, but I have a jew boss and he's a horrendous piece of shit for pretty much the same reasons that everyone mentioned in the thread.

>>6321632
cool appeal to extremes, you fucking dumb nigger.

>work at BK
>see employees make burgers beforehand
>microwaving them when they need to be heat up

It's insane that they think it's better to microwave an old burger than to just make it to order. Takes 2 minutes to broil them + 30 seconds for the toppings.

>Work for convenience store bakery
>It is going down the shitter, less and less money being made every day and workers are getting fired left and right to make up for it
>Workload is increasing due to lack of workers
>Stressful as fuck
>Minimum wage
>Hours are all over the fucking place
>Worked 11 days in a row, haven't seen my friends or family in weeks
>Managers and supervisors sit in the office all day and have a big jolly chinwag
>I'm alone on the giant shopfloor serving customers as well as baking breads and cakes
>Owners have the nerve to say I'm not working hard or fast enough
Kill me now. Burn Euphorium bakery in Tesco to the ground

>>6322472

holy fuck you're stupid why are you not looking for another job no wonder you work convenience

>work in deli of a grocery store
>don't take like 4 spoons out of the soups one night, casually forgot such a minor step
>store GM [not even head of the deli] moves me to being a bagger for the next 2 months
>dodges questions of when I can go back and hires 3 new people for the deli over those 2 months
what the FUCK did those spoons matter so much for?

>>6317661
This. Sandbag is a four letter word, kids.

>>6317655
yeah dude, havent you heard the horror stories of waiters getting paid $2 an hour because lololtips?

>>6319037
It means that if you have ten orders of french fries on board, you go ahead and cook twenty, assuming you will get more french fries before you can pick them up on time. Basically, it wastes product, and causes you to ship out cold/old food, because you could not keep up with the tickets on board.

>>6322552

that's a huge ServSafe violation faggot your GM saw you as a lawsuit waiting to happen aka a mong

>mongs bag
>and get carts
>not touch food that could poison thousands

>>6320018
https://www.google.com/search?q=mcdonalds+counter&biw=1920&bih=911&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=nu4EVY-YFoGrogT5o4DQAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
you're wrong, and a little research would have saved you.

>>6320185
>>durrr
you're a fucking moron, it doesn't matter how fast you are. you cannot deal with a 20 item order with 2 people on drive through side and expect to break under 70 seconds. in our restaurant, half the drive through orders are at least 15. Thats if they don't want anything that takes more time than usual, a single freezie takes 5-10 seconds to fill and assemble, Some people order 5-6 of them in the drive through, you better hope it doesn't need to go through a defrost cycle. and you better pray to whatever lord or sky wizard you worship that they don't take their sweet ass time idling while your counter clocks in more time despite being on target moments earlier.

>>durr hurr you spit in food no respect entitled brat huh
you're a fucking retard thats too busy projecting and masturbating to your own "humility" to even appriciate what I was even arguing, which is that restraurant jobs are easier and less stressful than fast food most of the time, and I'm not fucking wrong. I hate tips. I want to be payed a livable wage, instead I make minimum lifting 50+lbs bags of garbage into a compressor while teetering on an empty beer keg for added leaverage. and I would still take that job any day of the week than a fucking fast food hell hole. theres no satisfaction, its unwinable. I've never been told I have a bad work ethic by anyone. I can get lazy on my own self start projects but when I'm on someone elses dime I work. I don't ruin things to spite people. I am not an asshole. but anyone who tries to say fast food is easier than most pearl diving and line gigs doesn't know a fucking thing theyre talking about or they live somewhere where mcdonalds is the only restaurant for blocks.

ITT: B8 & H8
Except for >>6317589
This guy is an actual hero.

I'll never forget the time I had to come into my Wendy's to open and the ice maker's drain had become clogged with a cup. The whole kitchen was doing its best rendition of the Water Temple from OoT. The only way to get it up was with a ShopVac with a short in the plug. It was not a fun day.

>>>/biz>

>>6322865
>wahh I work a shitty fast food job
>wahh feel bad for me because I have a busy day
>wahh you're a moron because I deserve a better wage for a minimal trained work
Cry my a river bitch.
It's called a rush and you're a fucking mung and lazy brat.
You're bitching about how hard your job is and won't change and not be lazy or stuck in a shitty dead end job? I have no sympathy for you and grow the fuck up

>>6317557
That's what you get for not running by your manager something that goes against corporate policy.
That's what you get for not reporting to your managers how was being put in the tip jar.

You got what you deserved.

>>6322886
>>durrr I hurpa depr derp
so basically you're falling back into your typical self satisfying smug circlejerk party of 1. You have no arguement. and indeed nothing to say about what I said that even indicates you understand how fast food restaurants are run. I don't necissarily blame you all that much, I didn't untill I worked in one either. either way, pat yourself on the back, you must be a real accomplished individual, to bad it doesn't seem to have bought you any other redeeming character qualities.

You know what no one has mentioned yet that's the most annoying thing in all of fast food and being on that goddamned timer?

Drive-offs. My store didn't sell breakfast, but at least three times a week some granny would roll on through asking if we did. Then either we would have to swing a bucket out the window to trigger the drive-thru pad or have someone drive over it to stop it.

>>6322898
never had to deal with that at my place, sounds horrifying. ours probably accounts for that since we don't put an order in.

>>6322886
Fun fact, dick weasel. I make more in fast food than my friend who works as an EMT. They get shafted pretty badly.

>>6320053

Why don't you just go to the cheap tip place and not tip?

>>6322790
>mongs bag
>and get carts
>not touch food that could poison thousands
english translation when

>>6319923
>noticing drunk ppl
>"focusing"

40,000 keks

>>6322924
its clipped but ledgible. he works at a deli, mung is an insulting term for lawsuitable guy i guess, so its a noun in this case. bag is a verb, to handle bagging and handing out food over the counter. they get carts for the grocery store or other things, they do not take care of responsabilities that involve touching food.

that is what that person is saying.

>>6322896
Cry some more cry baby.
The fact you got butthurt over me calling op a jackass over putting out a tip jar and started making a pity party about fast food workers. I dont care dude. You're a crybaby.
I'm a jackass and I admit it but I don't try to act like my life is so hard to garner sympathy. You're pathetic dude and should an hero if your fee fees are that devastated

>>6317557
Epic troll, friend. 9/10

>>6322901
I don't know what butthole city where that happens

>>6322901
I don't know what butthole city where that happens

>>6322983
pretty sure it's in East Fakeville

>>6323012
Figured as much

posting ihop waiter experience, I'm drunk a bit

>apply to an ihop at age 18
>guy fucking hires me on spot
>first day I sit in the back between rear exit and staff room
>smells like smoke and the floor is fucking filthy
>sit there for 6 hours watching ihop training videos
>when I'm done I have to find the manager
>hey I'm done
>okay come back tomorrow we'll teach you to clock in
>next day I come in at like 7 am
>100 old people eating breakfast
>fuck I have to shadow some guy
>just fucking sit at the front for 2 hours
>earning hourly wage for training
>see someone from my classes in there
>check out her tits while I'm taking order
>don't learn anything about working there
>guy I followed basically tells me who is a bitch and who to buy weed from
>second day I come in and actually have to do things on my own
>only waiting like 5 tables
>gay guy hits on me when I make him some fruit drink
>fuck up orders like 3 times over 6 hours
>not too bad I guess for someone who doesn't even know menu
>when people didn't specify what type of eggs they wanted I just did scrambled
>no one fucking complained
>get 10-20% tips entire day for doing fuck all
>later in day I have to fetch something from freezer
>trying to find some shit in there
>pretty sure that's a dead rat in the corner, didn't check
>the back is so fucking disgusting it's unreal.
>dirt everywhere, anything that isn't from dishwasher is unsafe
>sometimes people just came back grabbed a thing from dishwash pile and wiped it real quick to hand to customer
>line of fucking ants from room temp storage room to door
>wtf does anyone see
>someone pays cash that day
>bring it to the front
>ask for change from register
>none of the register have change in them
>manager has duffle bag with shit load of coins in it instead
>day off next day
>stay up until 6 am
>call in to I quit mostly because I want to sleep until 2pm and jerk off to hentai

Got paid for 2 8 hour days and the 2.15/hr then kept whatever tips

>>6322910
Because that will work the first time, but then after that, they will poo in my food.

>Driving to a friend's house really early in the morning
>Almost never eat breakfast
>See a Popeye's with a menu of breakfast items
>slam the brakes on the empty road and yell "WHAT?!"
>drive in and see they have biscuit breakfast sandwiches with eggs and bacon, or sausage and egg like McDonald's...
>they even have grits
>Wonder what McDonald's would say about this...
>Decide to order it, the whole time thinking "can't believe I'm getting breakfast stuff from Popeye's CHICKEN
>Order egg with bacon and cheese, grits, and hash browns
>long ass time passes on the pay window...finally I get my food, they also give me some packets of jam and butter in stuff
>Get to friend's house
>eagerly unwrap the sandwich first, so many emotions and questions about whether this egg bacon and cheese biscuit sandwich will be identical to McDonald's or what....
>look at what I've unwrapped
>there is a fucking piece of fried chicken between two fucking biscuits

I was completely stunned, I couldn't even believe it. The grits and hash browns were there....but I can't believe they gave me a piece of fried chicken between two breakfast biscuits. I don't know why, and I never found out what it would be like. I'm assuming those lazyshits had not had it ready yet and just gave me that instead.

>>6321928
depends of the state

>>6319962
Wait, what the fuck are you getting dinged for when the customer uses a coupon? Isn't the reason they put those coupons out so that customers will come to their store and use them?

>>6317557
>go to Wendy's
>order my food
>chucklefuck behind counter grinning like he won the lotto
>keeps glancing at jar marked "tips"
>out of pity, throw in change
>register goon grins like e made a million bucks
>order still comes out wrong
>complain to management that if I'm tipping I should have good service at least
>manager doesn't know what I'm talking about
>says he'll talk to employee
>haven't seen employee since

>>6322983
Great state of Miss'ippi. Have a guy works in North Mississippi says the main EMS company up there is only giving barely above minimum wage.

>>6321974
If a drunk man is responsible for making his decision to drive and gets a dui, and if he's liable for a drunk girl's rape if he sleeps with her, then it's the drunk and not the bartender who is at fault.

>>6323110
>register goon
kekd hard for some reason

>>6323126
Technically the bartender is legally responsible to cut him off if the guy is too drunk (in my state at least, I'm sure that varies).

The caveat though: all you have to say is "He said he had had a ride and didn't look that drunk" and you'll be fine. You're not employed as a police officer and unless you're forcing the guy to drink you can't be considered, legally, and judge of what "too drunk" is because unless you're doing and DUI test you have no way of confirming it.

tldr: the bartender is responsible for cutting people off but there's no way to enforce this rule

>>6323151
this is a rule in my state too, seems like BS tho
>bartender has to keep track of how many drinks each fucking person has had or he can get charged with manslaughter

>>6323151
Drunk guests are a liability...to themselves and the other patrons.

http://www.servingitright.com/alcohol_and_law_appendix_2.html

This is Canadian, but the idea is the same.

>>6319226
kind of related but my asian flatmate is just oblivious to any tips you give him in the kitchen, regularly tell him not to leave the pan on the hob on max and burn his oil but he never listens

We have a take a penny leave a penny thing where I work, but people mistake it for a tip jar fairly often and leave tips when I'm not fucking looking.

>>6319166

that's koreans for you ;)

>>6323177
Non-freedom here, dafaq is a "Take-a-penny leave-a-penny"?

>>6323163
I agree, I'm just saying good luck successfully convicting the bartender

>>6323338
If your short chamge you take What you need and you leave change. It's an honor system

>>6323368
Interesting.
Sounds like it's been superseded by paywave and card transactions now though.

>>6323375
For the most part but it still goes on

>>6317557

>get hired at French Fry Heaven
>harassed in every way you can think of by every co-worker, managers included
>made joke- literally offhand comment- about giving free french fries to the President, and my fat cunt bitch of a manager flew into a tirade about how Obama was the antichrist
>after that day her and the other manager, a 40 year old lady who dressed and wore her makeup like a 16 year old and had 4 kids, decided they wanted me gone
>I am literally the only employee that customers like and consistently tip and bother to leave good feedback on
>actually get pulled by other managers [Victoria's Secret, Sears, etc] to work in their stores
>this fuels their butthurt
>finally get fired for telling an ultradyke SJW co-worker to, and I quote, "leave me alone" [albeit I did say it harshly] after she insults me to my face in the middle of a lunch rush
>after only 2 weeks and all this bullshit, get sat down and told I "don't work well with management" by the old bitch with too much eye makeup
>"I don't really feel management has any idea what it's doing."
>"UGH SEE THIS IS WHY YOU'RE GETTING FIRED"
>"No, you already fired me, so now I'm free to speak the truth. You're the reason no one thinks women can run businesses, by the way."
>leave and literally find new shitty job within 2 days
>now in culinary school and have an apprenticeship with a baker, 2 years later [still working a shit part time job but meh, I'm a kid, what can I do?]
>every time I walk by FFH in the mall it has new employees
>both former cunt managers still reek like smoke and have become even more landwhale-y from the stress
>it finally closed up a week after I literally watch them scream [actually SCREAM] at some poor worker of theirs for spilling the melted cheese, as I'm getting my coffee to work my part-time shit job
>feels good man

I looked it up and it seems like FFH franchises are a major fucking scam. Pretty glad that job didn't last long in hindsight.

>>6323392
>I looked it up and it seems like FFH franchises are a major fucking scam
I'm interested in hearing more about this.

>>6323436

It costs about $114,600 – $298,900 to open one, and the franchises are closing faster than they're opening- they even talk about "failure before success" a lot on their own blog, alluding to the fact that the businesses are not doing well. Considering how long FFH has been established, they should be more stable at this point.

It seems like the type of franchise that's sold to people who don't really know what they're doing, under the guise of being "gourmet"- the people profiting are the ones at the top.

>>6323438
Figures. People are only going to pay so much for potatoes. You'd need everyone to buy a drink and do crazy volume to cover rent and franchise fees.

>>6323449

Yeah, exactly. The yelp reviews are hilarious. They pretty much say exactly that- "who the fuck is going to pay $9 for a McDonalds fry?"

Are you an entrepreneur, anon? Or do you just have a love of bad business practices like I do?

>>6323453
I've worked for a few small businesses and am generally a cynical guy. There are a lot of affluent people where I live so there are a lot of gullible people willing to do whatever they think it takes to be rich and more people there to take advantage of them.

Now I sell insurance and when you quote out a business or a person's professional liability you are sometimes required to become very intimate with the workings of their enterprise.

>>6323464

Yeah, no such thing as a free lunch. Some people don't realize that.

You sound like you know your shit, anon.

>>6323392
>"No, you already fired me, so now I'm free to speak the truth. You're the reason no one thinks women can run businesses, by the way."
lol I'm glad all women are responsible for one bad manager.

>>6323476

found the feminist

>>6323477
>Not generalizing people makes you a feminist
4chan whining about SJWs and feminists is the same as Tumblr whining about privilege. You guys are the exact same, congratulations.

>>6323480

I was joking because your original reply was so asinine and pointless that I figured it deserved one of the same caliber, but okay.

>implying I didn't say that to further piss her off
>implying making one semi-emotional comment to a person who literally screamed at me and allowed me to be sexually harassed for 2 weeks is wrong
>implying it didn't work because people like her are immature and insane
>implying she doesn't actually further the very real stereotype that women can't ruin businesses and are overly emotional and unprofessional
>implying she isn't a shitty person who deserved to hear that
>implying I'm a shitlord who hates all women because I recognize there is a stigma against them and that women like that are only making it worse
>implying you misinterpreting a comment due to your own insecurities and sensitivities means that I hate women
>implying modern feminists and tumblr feminism isn't cancerous


You can go away now.

>>6323480
It's the fucking truth. People generalize things, and there's nothing your little happy bubble can do about it.

>>6323482
Didn't imply any of that. Seems like you're really still angry about this. Sorry I hit a sensitive spot.

But it really wasn't super relevant to your story, and you didn't really need to include it unless you were trying to get some "ooooooh shits" from the reader. Hope you're happier with your current situation though bro.

>>6323485

>didn't imply any of that

You literally said "glad one manager means all women blah blah blah."

>"n-no, YOU'RE being sensitive"
>dat backpedaling because you got called out

topkek. Go back to your hugbox, "bro." You're not ready for this place.

>>6323480
>not sure if subtle troll

>>6323490
You're looking really deep into one comment and trying really hard to tell me off. It's not working.

Good luck with your cooking career. Not being passive aggressive, just don't want to turn this thread into a complain about feminism thread, not that it was any good from the start, but this is a cooking board.

>>6323497

>you're the one who brought it up in the first place, derailing the thread with an asinine comment abut "MUH GENDER STEREOTYPES"
>you're the one who got called out for being a moron
>"n-no u, s-shut up, I-I'm n-not mad"

k lol

>>6323497

The funny part is, he's not trying at all. You're doing it to yourself.

>>6323501
I did bring it up and derailed the thread. Keep going if you'd like, though.

>>6323504

>p-please stop, anon-kun, my butt hurts so much

>>6323392

was this the one in Natick Mall?

that's hilarious

>>6317589
I did the same thing only that at MCD, manager was this fugly girl bullying the new guy (me) left and right, i seriously had to quit the shitty job or hit the bitch so i just quit, id rather be homeless then working at a fast food chain again

>>6324171

i thought he was talking about the one in new jersey.

>>6317614
Bullshit. Have you filed even the most basic tax return? There is a line for adding your measly $50 unreported income for the year.

>>6317614

>>6322886
Hah, this chump doesn't know that as long as there is a demand for fast food there will be badly paid fast food jobs. As long as those jobs exist there will need to be people to fill them. That means if you consume fast food, you support a system that underpays its workers for a job that includes a huge stress load with minimum compensation. If they were properly compensated, then they could likely afford more healthy habits and live less stressful lives and maybe even raise their children in a healthier environment than the one they grew up in, but that would raise the cost of fast food, and lower profits for the massive chains. Maybe that would open up competition for local chains and startups, but that's terrible for big business.

All I'm saying is you're looking really damn ignorant when you shit talk people working a job that is "necessary" to society. You don't know what is like to live through generations of poverty, without the benefit of a safe environment, and no social structure to help besides the church, school, or the local gangs to give you a sense of purpose.

>>6322901
Because EMT is the bottom of the EMS barrel. Tell him to go to medic school if he doesn't want to be worse than useless.

>>6324257
I don't eat fast food cheif. I mean I used to when I was younger but don't anymore. Those jobs aren't career. The only payable quality is working under high stress for a couple hours straight but that isn't something you go and get training for. It's a entry level job. Its ment for you to eitger move up or find something better. It would be like feeling bad for the dishwasher that stays a dishwasher after 5 years and went no where. If anything its a symptom of of a bigger problem where that's the only viable option for income. Plus you think most fast food is ran by some cartel if board members in a smoky room thinking how can I fuck over the little guy. Most are franchised genius. Also a burger flipper or fry cook is not a necessary job to society. A mason is necessary, cashier for McDonald's isn't.

>>6324461
Yeah, it's a problem of the system. There's nothing wrong with that, it's just the most profitable way to run the business of fast food. I don't think it's a cartel or anything, but one should consider that all fast food joints profit from low competitive wages. The people in charge aren't some cartoon fat cat business men, they're just in the business of making the most profit for their shareholders and themselves for as long as possible. It is a major source of income inequality in America, or at least a major contributor.

After working in a grocery store that started up four years ago and has quickly spread like a fungus through the Chicago land area I've seen how the machine eats people up, gets all it can out of them, and once they break they're through. They let a known sexual offender work in my store for two years until the complaints piled up and they tried to fire him. He sued the shit out of the store with a discrimination suit (short greasy fat hispanic with a tiny filthy mustache) right as they were planning an IPO. Of course they dropped everything and he did produce results by being an absolute asshole and micromanaging every department he walked into. Eventually there were too many complaints by both male and female employees that they had to fire him. This is not an uncommon story. It seems like the best managers in these high stress low pay jobs all have some sort of mental problem.

>>6324461
And yes, by how much money fast food corporations have accumulated we can agree that society deems McDonalds and Co as necessary.

>>6324589
Sometimes they're the only source of food for poor families who have no time to cook, sadly.

>>6323069
They were probably pissed off because you drove a car into their building.

>>6324573
It's not the business model that's the issue it's more that those low income areas have nothing else but arbitrary raising the minimum wage isn't doing anything long term. It doesn't change shit but Raise inflation. There should be a better focus on getting a stronger economy and providing education options to gain some worth skills
>>6324589
I will still argue it's not necessary, a wide convince yes but not necessary

>>6319166
sounds like that guy was seriously holding you back and probably endangering his customers honestly, glad you got him out of business.

>>6322420
I used to work at BK. You dont know the horror
>NOTE: ALL DRIVE THRU ORDERS MUST BE LESS THAN 2:30 FROM BEGINNING OF ORDER TO THEM LEAVING, NO MATTER HOW SLOW THEY ARE AT ORDERING
>Have to keep fuckloads of food because one Burger=Missed Speed of Service if made fresh
>THUS EVERY FUCKING BURGER IS MICROWAVED
>Onion Rings for Rodeo Burgers are literally rings that are past expire to be served
>Mix Chicken and Fish in Friers
>Daily Grease Fires from broiler
>On night shift 1 person is in charge of making food, prepping for breakfast, washing all the dishes, and scrubbing all the floors
>Restaurant closes at 12, get written up if you are clocked in past 12:30

I once tried to explain that if we get someone who takes 4mins to order on night shift, and we take 1.5mins to make his order, there was no fucking way we could still hit the 2:30 average

I was told "work faster and be grateful someone hired you"

>Manger wondered why we had 20 people turnover every month

>>6324825
It's like that at dunkin donuts too, possibly even worse. That 2:30 rule is fucking retarded. I didn't last a week at that place.

>>6323480
>You guys are the exact same, congratulations.

>>6324825
>>On night shift 1 person is in charge of making food, prepping for breakfast, washing all the dishes, and scrubbing all the floors

That's one of the reasons I quit. We usually had three people working closing, and one of them for us was our manager. He's in his office with the door closed playing games on his phone, I'm washing shit and helping some ex-con make food.

Fuck that. I know it's super overdone, but no one deserves the hell that is fast food. Going from working at BK to a small restaurant is like night and fucking day. People are nicer, the food quality is much much better, and the quality of life for all parties involved is much greater.

>>6319962
>and you are penalized heavily if the car sits there after youve handed the food over while the customer picks their nose
I always look in the bag before I drive away to make sure they didn't fuck up my order. I'm sorry.

>>6317557
I'm sorry but your one dumb fuck. Not just because you want to turn Wendy's into a fucking mom and pop's burger joint but because you want tips.

Here's a good tip: Get a real job you fucking retard.

>>6319257
>owner rushes over and gets mad at the employee and asks him why he didn't try to stop the burglar or try to convince him to not take the money
holy shit
like
jesus christ

I've worked in fast food and I'm in culinary school If I opened up my own restaurant, I would be more likely to hire a fast food worker than a culinary school graduate.

I wouldn't need chefs, that would be my job to develop the menu, the recipes and to teach my workers the proper technique. What I would need are workers who can follow procedures, maintain a clean workspace, work under pressure, and communicate with customers. Frankly that describes most of the fast food workers I worked with more than my classmates.

It's a hell of a lot nicer working in a grocery store deli than burger king. At least at the deli I can carry a fucking knife to fend off the stoners.

>>6326021
it's because they are culinary students.(No offense. ) like most people, they usually don't have actual restaurant experience. I know it's anecdotal but in my experience, most out of school would get their job if they weren't to insulted they could not be head chef. Some would try to act like they know better how to run it then the chef, or quit if they didn't move up asap. Some would be awesome but a lot have a diva complex the size of italiy

>>6325932
Sick trustfund, brah.

>>6317557
OP nomming on that tasty bait

>>6325875
if we fuck it up come around and park, then go up to the lobby counter, we'll get it fixed. honestly you're not the huge problem though, the problem is people not having their money ready or putting things away really slowly before driving, they barely touch their food.

>>6326095

About half of them are good enough that I wouldn't mind having them lend a hand in the kitchen. Several of them already work in the industry. The problem is they have alot of bad habits from working in the industry which would not be tolerated in a corporate environment and I personally would not tolerate.

The ones that bother me the most are people being unable to maintain a clean, organized workstation, inability to deal with customers or provide customer service, and the inability to work as a professional in a kitchen.

>>6322973
my "fee fees" oh man sorry I can't this shit is too hilarious
look buddy, I am not mad at you. there are plenty of retards on this planet, you're not the first one to come shit at my door step with your hollaring that I'm a lazy cuck who needs to live on shit and hurry up and give you food all at the same time.

you're the one who seems butthurt, my posts are thoughtful and explaining, your response to them are just bitching and whining contrary to your accusations. this is a thread about fast food working discussion, if you can't handle discenting opinions thats your own problem.

>>6326142
As I said my experience is anecdotal.
I don't know. What kind of restaurant would you be doimg?

>>6324676
>>durrr
you sound like you cant into economics, the government does these things already, by giving out health care so peoples only option isn't corporations to not die, by giving student financial aid, by trying everything to keep the economy afloat. assholes like you are usually the reason it doesn't work, because they don't understand how interconnected the system is and can't tell a beneficial policy from "muh taxes"

>>6326146
Awh how cute it took you a day to respond. I still stand that your a crybaby and that your lazy. Possibly retarded but hey, you probably can't help it.
My jimmies are unrustled. I've told you responses and added insults. I can handle dissenting viewpoints, even when people are cucks like you. Fast food workers don't deserve a tip still fyi

>>6326184
not here, but the fact that you're still here to reply is kinda sad.

>all these plebs getting mad that OP put out a tip jar

top kek

>>6326188
>>not here
then where are you
also, what? I know you're retarded but even you should be able to tell that the difference in time between replies implies I have not devoted my attention waiting in wrapt anticipation of your quality replies anon. I think you might be pushing even my naive suspension of disbelief.

>>6326178
You sound like you watch to much msnbc, olberman, and Michael Moore. The government is there for oversight and about it. Business help a economy over government you should know that but no , msnbc told me it's baaaddd .

>>6326188
Notification of mobile app bitch

>>6326169

I agree with you for the most part, I also have an IT degree and most of the people who I graduated with were only paper qualified. Most were terrified of programming, had poor diagnostic skills, and no customer service/sales experience. Most of my classmates in culinary need a few years working in the industry to fill in the holes in their skillset, attitude, and work habits. Personally I think everyone should put in at least a year in fast food but everyone else thinks it is beneath them which I think is ridiculous.

Personally I would open a small cafe. Food is important but my absolute priority would be on service and the front end experience. I would look for a small location adjacent to an office building or a high traffic commercial building.

My goal would not be to provide the best food but rather the best dining experience. The food quality and portions would be adequate but I would focus on adding value through service and proper presentation rather than costly ingredients or complicated recipes.

This is why I would want polished, well rounded employees rather than prima donnas or all-stars.

>>6326204
Oh god it grads are shakier than chihuahuas when they get out lmao. hands on experience should be a must and don't some places have that where it's required for previous experience or specifically fast food?
If you get a nice place you can make bank especially with a simplified menu. For questions sake. How would the service stand out over other cafes? What is an amazing dining experience to you so I can picture it?

>>6326195
>>fox told me buisness help economy government not help, u should know that but no, fox tld you its baaaad.

god damn man. you must have like an allergy to explaining yourself in anything more than a whiny baby saying they "don't wanna." Maybe try offering some real insight and explination to how buisnesses are more than ever making every effort to make sure everyone doesn't have to come to them and only them for health care? I shouldn't have to actually prompt you to do this if you want to be anything but laughed at of course but thats pretty much how this shit works.

>>6326204
as a fast food worker, no one deserves to work in fast food but the assholes like in this thread who think we should feel fortunate to work their and we're all just a bunch of whiny faggots.

It's not about the work being beneath anyone, its that the expectations are not possible to fulfill. Fast food is far from a dirty job. its just an unbelievably stressful one.

>>6326226

To me quality service starts with proper training which is something I've thought corporate franchises have refined very well. Basically, picture the ideal of service that a restaurant chain would provide because that is what I would be using as a goal marker as well.

My primary goal of service would be attentiveness, to a customer the clock starts ticking the moment they decide they are ready, which means every second it takes the server to notice them is a second longer they have to wait.

The next highest priority is communication skills. Servers would need to speak comfortably with guests. Training would basically be based on sales training, not so much to make upsells so much as on how to develop a rapport with a guest and social skills.

>>6326226

Part of my business plan would mandate a location within next to an office/commercial building or a bank without needing to cross a street. This is because I would be focused on convenience and walk-in business rather than destination dining.

I anticipate that a majority of the business would come from to-go coffee and bakery orders in the morning between 7am to 9am. After that I would transition to simplified to-go lunch orders with a more specialized menu for dine-in customers.

>>6320012
>>6320035

I don't think I've ever seen a McDonalds with as few as 4 registers, and being a Londoner I've seen some McDonalds crammed into pretty small spaces.

>>6326254
I don't watch fox news bucko.
But no a government has at most incentives to help commerce. You cannot seriously argue government is what makes the economy. By your logic places like west Virginia, Michigan, louisana should be meccas because of the high amounts of social programs being used. Industry and the business owner is what employs the worker and provides the work. Before you use the argument about the road was built and Yada. That's stupid and an abstract argument. You never even given insight as to how the government keeps the economy afloat when it's based on borrowed money and tax from the worker

>>6326283
I like the concept . The only thing is the expedient delivery of food and or beverage. It might just be me but a cafe is one to be a bit lax and leisurely where you have coffee and what food and a few cups after.
I know that sounds non sequitur but I mean is it like trying to make the food get out quick or aknowledge the customer? Maybe it's because you're targeting business folks who are busy so everything is quick. Maybe I'm not getting it?

>>6322472

The Working Time Directive is pretty clear, you have to have at least one day off per week, to have less than 11 hours off in 24, or to work more than an absolute cap of 60 hours a week. It's illegal for them to organise shifts that contravene that, or to fire or discipline you for exercising you rights in that regard.

>>6326323

Different anon here, business is the basis for the economy (excluding locations or industries that cater specifically to government based spending). However a planned economy with only government spending can be sustained and even grow because collectively works can add value through production. Another way government spending can sustain an economy is if it helps business gain or sustain critical mass in order to maintain operations, shift industries, provide a safety buffer during natural disasters, etc.

>>6326331

The key concept I'm focusing on with service is that people hate feeling like they are being ignored.

One problem I ran into in school about a month ago is people are ridiculously slow in the short order section, sometimes orders take 20 min or more to go out. Customers get very irritated because they stand their waiting with no updates and half the time they just get their money back and leave.

When I handle an order I keep an eye on the customer and watch their body language. If necessary I go back and check on their order's progress and give them an update. If there is a problem I immediately tell them and apologize for the delay. If there was a problem or a delay I personally take the order to them when it's finished and apologize for the error/delay.

So you see, it's not really about speed although that is also important. It's about showing them personal attention as though they are the only customer in the restaurant.

>>6326336
In theory you are right but actual pratice has shown government to be lacking and or shown it cannot handle it. I mean it can't keep up basic infrastructure, there was the bridges that feel. I mean the 9th ward still looks like a ghost town and relief efforts with Detroit looks like Beirut and just as crime ridden which doesn't make sense. I will give you that yes through some legislation it can maybe tip things in some balance. But overall it's industry that makes it go more than government

>>6326349
I can agree with that then. I hate being ignored when a place isn't busy. With experience most people understood if a order is backed up due to a rush (you have those unruly customers). It was confusing thy you were trying to push them out as fast in a cafe which is kinda doesn't make sense

I'll share a story. Not fast food, but food related bitchiness

>Be me
>Get hired in produce department of a Super Target
>Third day of working
>Still don't have a clue what I'm doing
>Get told to fill the “wet rack”
>That's the part of the store that has the sprinklers to keep the lettuce and stuff fresh
>OK I'll do it
>Filling bell peppers
>Crazy lady come up to me, asking about turnips
>Wants to only buy one
>We sell them in wrapped packages of 2-3
>Say “Sorry I can't open them, they are sold using the bar code on the package”
>Lady in a snarky, bitchy tone “Yeah I thought so”
>Lady points to bell peppers
>Price is 99 cents each
>The each sign is slid behind the 99, can't see it
>Lady loses her shit
>”I hate this store!!!!!!”
>”I don't know why I even come here!!!!!”
>”You don't do anything right!!!”
>”You sell things stupidly and your prices are always wrong!!!!”
>”How am I supposed to know what the price is????”
>”Is is each or by the pound???”
>Tell her it is each
>”Do you have any respect for your customers???”
>”Do you feel any responsibility to make sure the prices are correct???”
>Me: “I...I'm sorry I'll change it as soon as I can.”
>Oh god I'm going to be fired
>Only third day on the job so super nervous
>She storms off saying she is never coming back and is shopping at different stores from now on
>Go and change the sign
>Tell boss what happened in case she finds him first
>Boss: “Yeah customers are like that sometimes, you just gotta take it and be polite”
>Really cool about it, says I did the right thing by apologizing
>Had it happened after I had been there a while I would have told her to go eat shit and pipe the fuck down
>Been there 3 years, currently assistant manager
>Retail prepares you for shitty people
> Develop thick skin against stupidity and bitchiness
>As soon as I graduate I'm getting the fuck out of there
>Fuck retail I want my holidays back

TL;DR Old lady wanted a turnip

>>6326353

Well that's because those weren't planned economies, Detroit was based on the auto industry and experienced urban decay with it's decline. Government couldn't sustain it because it they were never the primary source of business activity. However in towns near military bases or a state funded university, Government is the primary source of business activity.

Anyway, I agree that government isn't the basis for economic activity but unrestrained business activity would be pretty scary to live through. As a simple example, imagine if there were no rules about business signage or commercial zoning.

>>6326356

Well in terms of volume of business I estimate that it would be about 80% walk-in to-go customers (most between 7am to 9am in the morning) and 20% dine in destination diners. With the to-go diners the goal is to complete orders quickly to maximize volume, however speed, quality, and service are all important so you don't lose customers to coffee made at home or at work. With the dine in customers the goal is to provide an ideal dining experience rather than flat-out speed. The reason for this is to justify higher item prices and maximize margin.

>>6317589
Don't worry, cheap Fast Food is going to be largely automated within the next 15 years anyway.

>>6326349
Waiting for my food usually never bothers me unless I'm in a hurry, and usually i never blame the restaurant. I was the one who made the decision to eat there. its not even cause i worked at restaurants since I was 14. I do have thoughts about "I know what its like" but thats not going through my head when I have somewhere to be.

>>6326419
Isn't that a microwave?

>>6326323
>>gubmint spending = economy? ha! that doesn't work, look at all the money they spend on it.
I can't even understand how someone who knows so little can talk such bullshit. Look moron, to start with Louisana, that state is in the iron death grip of the conservatards, and I literally mean that. they teach creationism in schools as a state policy there. Just because social policies exist in a state does not make them geared towards commerce. That goes for federal too. I never claimed governments do everything right, but you still have nothing to say about the specific aspects I mentioned. which unfortunately for you makes your arguements irrelevant. theyre a criticism and maybe even a valid one, but its irrelevant to my points, which so far you have yet to even comment on. It was you who said government spending hurts the economy, please back your ass up and explain the scenario I outlined. by your logic, it should be wrong, and you should have no problem telling me why instead of wasting my time.

>>6326317
type in mcdonalds and counter and prepare to be amazed.

>>6326420

Well as I said it's not just about speed per say, lets say the order itself didn't take long to make but when you arrived it took 15 sec to get the staff's attention because they were playing on their phone and after your order hit the window it took another 15 seconds for them to get it and give it to you. The 30 seconds is really nothings but if I were the customer every seconds I had to wait but didn't need to would really irritate me. Attentiveness (but not hovering) is one of those things that I think is the hallmark of good service.

>>6326428
>>if I where the customer
as a customer in a fast food place. I just dont care. take a minute or longer if you like. in my experiance most customers never seem that butthurt about it in a fast food place either. though I rarely go to one except to work. I thought we where talking restaurants.

>>6326430

We are talking restaurants. Lets say you walk into a restaurant and it takes you a few minutes to get seated, not because they needed to prep a table but it took them that long to notice you and bring you to a table. They seat you, bring you a menu and water promptly and you look at the menu. After a few minutes you look up and are ready to order. The server isn't looking at you and is either playing with their phone or talking to other staff, obviously not about an order. After a minute of trying to catch their eye they obviously aren't paying attention. Finally you catch their attention and place your order.

The food isn't even there yet and I would already be put off. If my goal were superior service, these are exactly the places I would be looking to make the improvements because in a sense it's low hanging fruit. It doesn't cost anything more to have servers pay attention

>>6326442
if I felt like they where not busy and where distracted I wouldn't get mad, i would just go up to them. same if I was waiting to be seated and no one came.

>>6326446

Perhaps, but would you call it good service? I wouldn't and on my goals would be to provide good service. There is anecdotal evidence from customer surveys of restaurants in the same building row that showed the primary reason one of them wasn't getting repeat business was customer service even though it's food was rated higher

>>6317557
OP you're a faggot. you got fired from a fast food job. think about that. you're a subfailure.

>>6317563
/thread

>>6323151
Problem is it then becomes the drunk guy's word vs your word, they have to look at CCTV, get statements (most people aren't willing to lie to police and get in trouble for you) etc etc, it becomes a huge hassle for your boss and will probably fire yo ass.

>>6326720
Problem is you're assuming that cops have the manpower and resources to demand CCTV footage, find out who was at the bar that night, track them down, etc etc because somebody had one too many and got their stupid alkie ass killed.

>>6317557
Your boss was right to fire you, you little shit.

Putting a tip jar on the counter hits that part of a customer's brain that tells them "If I don't give this faggot a dollar, he's going to shit in my food next time I come here." To add onto that anxiety, their $3 burger now costs $4, so they start to think "Well now that $3.50 burger at jack-in-the-box doesn't sound so bad..."

Now the customers are fucking off to greener pastures where they don't get guilted by your eyes darting between them and the tip jar. Your tips start drying up, the restaurant's making less money, and they can no longer justify as much kitchen staff as they used to. They fire a somebody (who is now making NO money thanks to your fucking retarded tip idea) and now you retards have to pick up the slack because you thought you knew consumer trends better than the executives who dictate corporate policy.

>>6326376
It would be scary, no business codes, osha safety, or health standards but I also think in this day and age it's almost common practice unless they are slum miser types

>>6326768
>counter hits that part of a customer's brain that tells them "If I don't give this faggot a doll

No, it doesn't.

It goes like this: " They have a tip jar? Why? They don't have table service, so why are they asking for a tip? These guys are stupid".

>>6326409
I'd go to it. That would be ideal for me. For example, I live in a now gentrified area. (Take shots, it was cheap when I moved in.) That has a lot of Caffès . The problem is its expensive for a Caffè, the people seem they can't be bothered to take an order and get snotty when they come up to you when they want. It wasn't terrible but for the price it was why bother?

>>6326425
You literally are aa manlet when it comes to dissenting views. The buzzwords you used show your unintelligent and how full of yourself. Plus you sound buttmad. You'll have to be put in a corner until you can talk to people without having to used moronic insults

>>6327193
But most people are nervous because of movies or horror stories that they don't want to take that risk.

>>6323098
"that offer has expired"
"that offer was cancelled"
"that offer is not available at this location"

>>6323392
play nice with the other kids, anon

>Coming up on 5th year at KFC mid this year
>Been Shift Supervisor for a few years (turned down offers of promotions due to family/distance issues)
>Tiny food court store with small mgnt team, so I get a ton of hours
>Store runs like a family and still makes/beats targets.

I've been to stores where it's a literal horror story, but there are some gems that make working in fast food seem bearable.

>>6318964
>NEVER EVER work for asian employers who have shit english

Oh my god, this. Used to work in a bagel deli that a friend's family owns.

Highlight of Korean owner's awesome people skills:

>argues in shrill Korean with his wife in front of customers, storms out of the store, slams doors etc.
>an employee made the wrong ration of poppyseed to sesame bagels once (like 5:2 trays instead of 2:5 trays or something)
>he flips out, screams at her, throws the trays on the floor

I don't even want to go into their business practices (like taking huge cuts from the employee tip jar, ignoring the rules Coca Cola gave them for their cooler rental, poor sanitation, cutting corners everywhere etc.)

He also tried to kick out a little girl with a service dog. She was nonverbal autistic, ffs. Luckily another employee intervened before the store made the front page of the local news.

I once asked a chef I worked with to warm up some beans and watched him put the unopened tin into the microwave and turn it on. He later threw a plastic bag of scampi into the frier.

He said he had training and experience. I think he lied...

>>6329790
lol at all the Korean stories in this thread. Why do they all own weird businesses like yogurt and bagels?

I was 16. First proper job(with taxes and shit. prior to that i did newspaper delivery)
Job was at dairy queen.
Franchise was owned by a woman. The manager was her daughter, and supervisor was her son, the next guy in command was an iraqi immigrant who was a spineless tool who did all the shit work and lorded his position over everyone else(Him cleaning the frozen milk machine qualified him to shittalk everyone else, even though he was a mid 20's loser and all the other staff was in highschool)

I pretty much gave up when i was getting fucked up orders from the owners son('Peanut butter parfait without chocolate'... 5 minutes later.... 'wtf anon, wheres the chocolate on this parfait!?!?') and i was getting charged for my messed up orders. I ended up making like $20 on that 8 hour shift. Turns out the son and the iraqi tool were trying to get me to quit/fired..

Even more fucked up part was the son(He was in his mid 20's) was a pedo who was trying to groom me when i first started. Showed me a bunch of porno mags(with pages stuck together :/) and asked if my dick was getting hard. He was busted a few years later trying to fuck his 12 year old cousin.

>>6326095
What about culinary students who took the class to get better skills but don't fit under the primadonna scheme? The ones that just want a restaurant position that even if it's a basic level one, they can prove themselves in. I would happily do prep and or whatever I'm told to do, to the absolute best of my ability for however long I had to. I'm not one to be a whiner or immediately assume position I think I deserve type. I hate to think everyone will discriminate Against culinary students and not give others chances because of the obnoxious ones.

I've also worked fast food/ grocery jobs before so I know restaurants is a path id rather go down.

>>6317557
Why the fuck would I tip some fast food faggot? You don't make anything, you just reheat and hand it to me. Also, you didn't invent the concept of a tip jar you fucking unoriginal idiot.

>>6323497
Jesus. Shut the fuck up, you bitch.

>>6317557
>>manager realizes we're asking for tips

How long did it take?
A few hours?
A few days?
A few weeks?

>>6317624

What if OP really is the inventor of tip jars

>>6326425

>Omg conservatives are teaching creationism!

I would gladly take that over liberals teaching children to choose their own gender or having them read books about two princes buttloving each other.

>>6323497

Man, people are really uppity today, told someone what my lifting numbers were and he told me I was e-posting and a phony.

Its a shame normies filled the board.

>>6317594
At least one sane person.
OP is a fucking faggot. I bet he believes in equal wealth distribution as well.

>>6318964
>not just getting a bunch of roach bait instead of traps

That shit works wonders.

>>6329926
Dude no need to be getting you're underoos in a wad. I didn't say everyone that went to culinary school. I said in my experience I've encountered people with diva complexes more often than not. I also said I met the few that want to get better and know and grow skills too.

>>6330283
I didn't mean to come off with knotted panties, I've been on this board seeing all kinds of threads and people talk shit about culinary students for a Long time and how they'd Never give them a place because of reasons you listed. It's just a shame that's what culinary school is associated with.

>>6326358
Super Targets are pretty good, but pushing product can be a nightmare when you are understaffed and the managers have a diva complex.

Every single employee would be asked to stay longer than our shift and they would get mad if we couldn't.

>>6317557
A major company, of course.

I watched that Hundred Foot Journey movie the other day, and had that very problem. No restaurant with a Michelin star that uses centuries old recipes is going to let an indian line cook CHANGE the recipe, then serve it.

>>6326358
My experience as well. Worked produce for 6 years. Most fun job I've had.

Some of the customers are assholes but most of them are very grateful if you do manage to help them out. Our store wasn't part of a "huge" chain, and was medium sized. This combined with the fact that the management there were okay with me being self reliant meant that I could have solved that turnip problem easily by making a custom sticker. (not on my third day on the job tho)

I've had people yell, bitch and moan at me occasionally for things being out of stock, the pricing being wrong, them thinking the pricing is wrong be cause they don't have the patience to read, them trying to scam the store (this usually went poorly)

Also sometimes I felt like people just looked for an excuse to complain and maybe get free stuff. Normally I'd take their complaint seriously and replace their stuff for free, like say they said the apples they bought 2 days ago were already rotten. However I don't trust this for a second time, and definitely not for a third. Management was chill about me giving away free things on my own, which sped things up significantly and that in turn kept customers satisfied.

I've always been taught to be polite in a situation like yours. Never have I ever told a customer to eat shit, or even been impolite. Not even the time some old hag tried to be deliberately obnoxious, slow / fast, and pretend forgetful just to scam me out of 35 euros when I was working the register. If I did come to a point where I couldn't say anything nice I'd just walk away.

>>6329885
>muh entrepreneurship
>muh new markets
no, its just a really cheap franchise to start

>>6330293
I know they do shit on culinary students a lot. I usually get wary of them because I live in a area with a fluent families and a culinary school. So a lot have an attitude before going in. I met some down to earth ones that will go places

>>6330054
They're both equally as insidious

can't we just have neither

>>6330475
Creationism is insidious?

Even if it is a *little*, how can you say it's *AS* insidious as teaching 5 year olds to chop off their dicks? Even from a purely atheist humanist point of view, that's ridiculous.

>>6330535
>>Creationism is insidious?

Yes. Because it teaches "this is the way it is" rather than "observe and draw conclusions".

>>teaching 5 year olds to chop off their dicks
And who or what is teaching that exactly? Sounds like hyperbole to me. Keep in mind there is a difference between reading about something versus teaching someone to do something. Those aren't the same thing at all. Who or what is telling children to chop their dicks off?

>>6317563
Yeah franchise "owners" can get their business taken away from them if they don't follow the rules to the letter.

>>6330584
>Who or what is telling children to chop their dicks off?
literally every "teacher" who sees a boy playing with a doll


I played with dolls, because in my school there was a huge dollhouse and a bunch of girls. Now I'm a happily married heterosexual male who played hockey in high school and college.

Had I been born 5 years ago, my future would probably hold a knife and some panties.

>>6326419
>Automated
You've never worked in fastfood have you? The machines very literally do all the work.

>>6330624
>literally
stopped reading there

>>6324461
>masonry
>get a college degreee in masonry and women's studies
>mason

worst b8

>>6330624
>Had I been born 5 years ago, my future would probably hold a knife and some panties.
Literally wot?

>>6330637
Ok, Mr. Semantic cock sucker. *Literally*

>>6330646
Because I used to play with dolls instead of cap guns at school (though I played with cap guns at my friends' house), current teachers and authority types are encouraged to remind me that those are feminine things, indicating that I must have some sort of gender dysphoria. Since children take authority figures' words as gospel, I would have followed what they said and probably ended up with a chopped off dick and fake tits.

>>6330624
>Now I'm a happily married heterosexual male

How is that possible when literally every one of your teachers made you chop your dick off?

>>6330663
They didn't. Also, you're an illiterate fuck.

>>6330659
I don't think getting gender exchange surgery is that simple. At least not outside Thailand.

>>6330638
What are you even talking about ?

Damnit, SJWs! When did /ck/ become a dick chopping forum?

>>6330670
>They didn't

But you just said that all teachers literally make kids do this.

But then you seem to have a penis?

Seems to me that you are so far into the hyperbole and exaggeration that your opinions aren't worth listening to anymore. It's a fucking ridiculous reach to go from "my teacher was disapproving of me playing with dolls" to "literally every teacher teaches boys to chop their dicks off".

>>6330681
>confirms he is an illiterate fuck
I'm not even that guy but god damn you are dumb. People like you are what's wrong with the world, I want you to know that. You literally reduce the global quality of life.

>>6330681
Are you incapable of understanding implication? Just because I said "literally every teacher" doesn't mean I'm implying that every teacher from the beginning of time until the present. Clearly I'm speaking of the influence our culture has on teachers *today*. If you want to get into a semantic argument, put on your fedora and go to /r9k/, because no one wants you here.

>>6330705
>>uses the word "literally"
>>bitches about semantics

God, the irony.

>>6330705
>Just because I said "literally every teacher" doesn't mean I'm implying that every teacher from the beginning of time until the present.

you might want to rethink your use of the term literally then bro

>>6330711
u 2 bby

Pretty sure you don't understand the phrase "arguing over semantics" or "semantic dispute."

>>6330717
You might want to rethink your use of "semantics", bro

>>6321699
You're a manlet skeleton. No one wants to fuck you.

>>6319962
Taco Bell?

>>6330717
>>6330711
god, you people are pedantic

>>6330740
>pedantic
That's literally such a big word, ah-ha-ha

>>6330752
The most ironic post ITT

>>6330727
>You might want to rethink your use of "semantics", bro

Why? The whole point of using the world "literally" is to explain to the reader that you are NOT speaking in an ironic or semantic fashion and rather you mean exactly what the words say.

>>6330766
Are you arguing semantics over the word semantics?

You're such a faggot.

Don't you girls ever get tired of playing grab-ass?

>>6330774
>>6330766
>>6330727
>>6330717
>>6330711
>>6330705
>>6330681
>>6330673
>>6330670
>>6330663

HOLY SHIT YOU NIGGERS THIS IS A FAST FOOD THREAD I WANNA HEAR PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT PENIS IN THE TACO SHELL NOT PENIS IN THE CLASSROOM

>>6318938
>hires this fucking moron who never worked a day in his life

>applies for job to work
>complain that he never worked

I don't understand. But still, that guy sucked big time, good that it worked out for you in the end.

>>6330705
This statement is retarded. Literally every teacher does mean every teacher from beginning to present. Just accept that you're wrong and move on mate.

>>6330855
Look up the word "semantics", then get back to me.

Holy shit, you guys are fucking autistic.

>>6322472

Find

A

New

Job.

>>6330865
Semantics does not cover straight up using words incorrectly. Otherwise literally every sentence would be based on some kind of contextual overview, and would be impossible to interpret in some cases. See how I used literally there?

This damage control, top kek.

>>6330865
>Look up the word "semantics", then get back to me.

Sorry bro, you're going to need the dictionary for "literally" first.

>>6330882
Semantic arguments -*LITERALLY*- means arguing over the definition of a word rather than the meaning of the statement.

Now. Are you arguing over the use of "literally" or are you arguing that most teachers in the year 2015 are not told to encourage sexually deviant behavior?

>>6330883
again. literally semantics

>>6330890
>Now. Are you arguing over the use of "literally" or are you arguing that most teachers in the year 2015 are not told to encourage sexually deviant behavior?

Both.
I'm sure there are some pervert teachers out there, but there's no way I'm going to believe that the average teacher in 2015 is going to encourage sexually deviant behavior. And I'm damn sure that said teachers aren't TOLD to encourage such behavior.

>>6330890
No one's arguing semantics with you mate. We're just pointing out your incorrect word usage, as well as your dumb as shit point.

>>6330901
>pervert teachers
It's more pervasive than that.

Teachers aren't simply encouraged to spur on this behavior, they're PUNISHED for dissuading it.

>>6330903
>No one's arguing semantics with you mate
They're arguing over the use of the word "literally" rather than the content of what I was saying. That is *literally* a semantic dispute.

>>6330920
>Teachers aren't simply encouraged to spur on this behavior

I don't believe you. I think this is a lie. Citation please.

>>they're PUNISHED for dissuading it.
So you believe that most teachers would be punished for stopping sexually deviant behavior? If I understand you correctly, I don't believe that either.

>>6330926
>Citation please.
Look to your own anecdotes. It's St. Paddy's day, I'm drinking, and I can't be bothered.

>So you believe that most teachers would be punished for stopping sexually deviant behavior? If I understand you correctly, I don't believe that either.
If a teacher tells a faggy kid to stop putting ken dolls up his asshole, that teacher will undoubtedly be lynched by msnbc.

>>6330901
but it must be the way other anon is describing, after all that's what happens when people turn away from god and stop teaching creationism

>>6323338

Here in Germany we have that in some places, too.

lol this shit's still going

>>6330958
tell me about it

I'd forgotten how bad threads could turn when two retards had it out for each other

>>6330958
>>6330962
>not just enjoying watching the trainwreck

>>6330971
I sort of like the greentext stories better than two guys being dumb, but they're still both pretty good

These guys are pretty top-tier in that consideration, though, throwing around words bigger than the last one used like an "I WAS IN COMMUNITY COLLEGE MUCH LONGER THAN YOU" fight

>>6329790
This makes me want to be a stormfronter. Too bad I'm an african.

>>6329907
>Even more fucked up part was the son(He was in his mid 20's) was a pedo who was trying to groom me when i first started. Showed me a bunch of porno mags(with pages stuck together :/) and asked if my dick was getting hard. He was busted a few years later trying to fuck his 12 year old cousin.

literally /leddit/