/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>babbys 1st troll

>>6254322
East coast makes a wider variety of cheese, although Cali makes some good stuff

because the midwest is full of fat plebeian philistines. i thought this was common knowledge?

>>6254341
How can you see them from up there? Or do you mean this is what you infer, from watching documentaries like the honey boo boo show?

>>6254350
fat midwesterner detected

>>6254322
>lol flyover amirite guise?

Yawn.

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>implying the Midwest doesn't also have real cheese

Captcha ursides

the cheese on the left would cost like 60 bucks
and the cheese bag on right would be about 7
>cool bait tho

le ebig flyover maymay

>>6257275
people pay for what's good. no one wants wisconsin wine

>>6254322
Yurofag that spent a couple of months in California here. You do get a pretty good variety of cheeses there. And hard cheeses both local and imported are generally of great quality. I especially liked pic related.

One thing that wasn't that great were mold cheeses like camembert, roquefort etc. because of the ban on raw milk. I also could find a good mozzarella for the life of me.

Good cheese was also quite expensive compared to back home.

>>6257275

Bullshit.

>go to grocery store
>high quality cheeses from 2.50 up to 15 dollars, most around 5
>only slightly more expensive than plastic preshredded cheez product of the same quantity

Would you rather eat a pound of slop, or half a pound of fine cuisine?

>>6257581
>I'll gladly pay $70 plus $35 tip for three bites of "fine cuisine" on a plate

no thanks

but its way harder to find good cheese in California than it is east of the Rockies

California is literally the worlds capital of Kraft fake cheese while almost all of america's quality cheese comes from the inland north

>>6257610
the situation east of the appalachians and in the parts of california that matter (san francisco, the peninsula, marin/sonoma/napa/humboldt and a few other northern counties) are similar

"east of the rockies"?

>implying you can get good cheese in nebraska or missouri or elsewhere in the midwest

>>6257584
Are you literally retarded?

>>6257649
>>implying you can get good cheese in nebraska or missouri or elsewhere in the midwest
i've never been to nebraska, but surely it is easier to find good cheese there than where the masses live in california outside of the small upper-middle class enclaves.

Missouri is basically the south, so you might be right about that. Whenever people lump northern places in with southern ones, you know they have no clue what they are talking about

>>6257666
No, he's just cheap, the other dude phrased that to sound like a fucking retard however

>>6257714
>flyover land has truly nuanced variations in culture

We're all special snowflakes but let's be real: the entire midwest (including alabama and texas) is ignorant fat bigots, and this also includes the parts of california outside of palo alto, menlo park, san francisco, petaluma, and so on (basically where normal, intelligent people live)

inb4 you disagree therefore you've never been to the midwest, or some such thing

>>6257737
Can you seriously not tell Minnesota from Alabama?

The Upper Midwest is the most affluent, nicest and most cultured part of the country besides New England.
California is more like Mexico than it is like the north as far as culture and affluence goes

>>6257740

In Minnesota the fat people are white, or occasionally native american; in Alabama half of them are black. Is that what you mean? Also they talk slower in Alabama.

>>6257748
half the population being black is a huge cultural difference

I approve of this attempt OP.

>>6257748
The deep south's diversity and poverty means it and California are more alike than either is like a civilized northern state

I'll just leave this here

>>6257766
to be fair, about half of California's people are foreign citizens

>>6257766
kind of a meaningless thing. There are so many places to visit in america that don't require an expensive international flight that it makes little sense to leave the country often for the vast majority of people

>>6257776
>I have everything I want, why would I ever leave?

The funny thing is when a new yorker says this you people get ass blasted

Why do westerners have such dumb accents?

>>6257782
I dunno man
but people from Boston crack me up.

>>6257779
Why would you fly to europe when you can go to the grand canyon or yellowstone or even florida if you are into tourist shit for a fraction of the cost?

Nothing wrong with europe of course, its just a dumb financial decision to make unless you are so rich that money doesn't matter

>>6257786
>implying it costs less to go to the grand canyon than to europe

I can get a round trip to a european capital city for around $400 during the off season, and once I'm there the god tier infrastructure means it's cheap as hell

Meanwhile if I visit fly over land:

>$690 for a round trip ticket for a 2 hour flight because there's only 2 flights a day on one airline
>$100+ a day car rental and gas
>$250 a night for a hotel that isn't dogshit
>the food still sucks
>everyone is heavily armed so I'm walking on eggshells and I avoid conversations other than the weather, especially in bars

Yeah no

I'll just leave this here

>>6257796
So europe is cheap. Sounds like a shit place and it's no wonder it's called yuropoor.

>>6257796
>everyone is heavily armed so I'm walking on eggshells and I avoid conversations other than the weather, especially in bars
Are you black or something?
Why would this effect you in any way?

>>6257796
>god tier infrastructure
lol at the idea that trains are better than roads

>>6257804

The word you're looking for is "affect", and no, I'm not black. But it's interesting how you acknowledge that your life is in danger in some of these places if you don't look the right sort of way.

>>6257800
What's up with that place in North Dakota?

>>6257812

Probably an indian reservation. Remember each of those boxes in ND has like 25 people in it, so you just need 25 gullible people and you have a 100% conversion rate for that county.

>>6257796
>I can get a round trip to a european capital city for around $400
which one?
>$690 for a round trip ticket for a 2 hour flight because there's only 2 flights a day on one airline
dude, what? It doesn't cost even close to that much
Also you can drive for next to nothing if you have the time
>>$250 a night for a hotel that isn't dogshit
maybe if you are staying in the most expensive, densely populated part of a city, but its easy to find a nice place for a fraction of that
>>$100+ a day car rental and gas
Seems like a stretch
>the food still sucks
Better, meat, cheese and beer than you get normally, so what more can one ask for? Not enough kale for you?

>>6257810
>But it's interesting how you acknowledge that your life is in danger in some of these places if you don't look the right sort of way.
nah, I don't know what it is like to be black. I'm just commenting on what I know, being a white person. I was simply acknowledging that its possible non-whites have a different experience that I am not qualified to comment on

However, you are a straight up crazy person if you are afraid of getting shot in the midwest. 99/9% of people that get shot in the midwest are blacks shooting other blacks in small isolated inner city neighborhoods that no tourist would have have reason to be near

>>6257820
>which one
norwegian air, last winter.
>it doesn't cost
yes
>you can drive for next to nothing if you have time
if you have a job, driving as a form of transport is retarded, unless the drive is itself the vacation
>easy to find a place
I'm talking about a place that doesn't suck
>normally
hahahaha, midwesterners are hilarious

>>6257840
So once you flew to Scandinavia in the fucking winter?

You are doing some crazy cherry picking

>>6254322

keep wasting water for them cows while California dries up and blows away into the ocean

sure makes sense

>>6257848

Amsterdam isn't in Scandinavia, silly billy.

>>6257850

The places where good cheese comes from (i.e. northern california, the only part that matters) have a water shortage because retards in LA are raping the entire state to water their lawns.

I'm from the UK and spent some time living in wyoming and colorado. There is a culture shock in comparison to the UK and to europe in general, food differences?

>Meat was really cheap, produce was poor quality and expensive.
>Eating out was really cheap.
>What I'd consider 'staples' were speciality items.
>Steak, beer and bottomless fries cost about the same as a bunch of bananas.

Cultural differences?

>The phrase 'good people' implying people who went to church, didn't drink and NEVER entertained any topics which were not conservative.
>Some really crazy messed up people on the fringes, fringes seemed wider than here.
>People who drank generally were into some weird shit.

Stuff I encountered.

>Guy living in truck who drove to town to avoid father and broke down wanting to move in with me.
>Guy asking me to shoot meth with him in his 'office' after drinking past 2am.
>Closeted homosexual trying to solicit me in a carpark after a bar closed.
>Having the sheriff called for getting drunk in a bowling ally.
>Hanging out with some black dudes who didn't own shoes and going on 'adventures' to buy cigarettes, convinced I was jewish.
>Mini-mart bag ice, bottles of liquor and motel 'parties' with people who I think had learning difficulties.
>Getting smoked the fuck out at a BBQ with older hippies after jamming bass in a dive bar.
>Somehow going to a baby shower with a bunch of mexicans and shooting baskets in the yard and drinking long necks.
>Shooting an AK out on a ranch with a strange dude who was excited to set off half sticks of dynamite trying to eliminate the feral cat population on his land.
>Playing Johnny Cash on guitar, getting an old dude so worked up he tried to climb on the table and attack me for talking politics, then he left with tears streaming down his face saying "I shure do like to hear you play that guitar boy".
>Flirting hard with milfs in the hot tub of a motel at like 1am and drinking need whiskey.

>Remember each of those boxes in ND has like 25 people in it
And this right here is the main reason that the middle of the US has generally mediocre food - fewer people, less food sold overall, less room in the market for products that don't already have established demand. Go to the big cities that are like islands of civilization in a sea of farms, ranches, or mountains and you can find pretty much any food from anywhere in the world.

As a Canadian I can safely say all your cheese suck shit. No raw milk and overpasteurization. Also, why would the midwest suck at cheese? If it's anything like the prairies in Canada it's full of people who raise cows and goats and shit and just make cheese all day.

>>6257920
except when people talk flyover stuff they are usually talking about the Midwest and the south (two completely different places)
not the great plains and mountains which is what you are describing

The great lakes region from Buffalo to Minneapolis, where the vast majority of midwesterners live is the 2nd most densely populated part of the country after the northeast from DC to Boston

>>6257921
>Also, why would the midwest suck at cheese
because it was a troll post.

>>6257920
here is more detail for you

>>6257858
>northern california, the only part that matters

anything north of san diego is cancer

>>6254322
>Why is this

Because your doctor can't cure your autism.

>>6258250
California is just a few small enclaves of cool stuff surrounded by utter shit

>>6257737
shame that the upper midwest is the best part of the country :^)