/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6248448
Anyone have experience with BIAB? I've been considering going all grain from extract and don't want to shell out a few hundred to get a new setup

>>6248578
Well, all you're going to need is a mash/lauter tun and 8 gallon pot if you don't already have one. And a hydrometer, but you probably have that. That's not going to cost you a "few hundred".

I recommend renting this and watching it. Very informative.

https://vimeo.com/ondemand/21960

>>6248448
What's that thing above the bottling wand?

>>6248685
It's a wine thief. For removing small amounts of the wort (unfermented beer) and measuring its gravity with a hydrometer.

Haferflocken Dunkel reporting in.

>>6248692
AMA I guess. This oatmeal dunkel is my greatest achievement in homebrewing so far and it seems no one has thought about using oatmeal for lagers as evidenced by the lack of information online.

>>6248716
Using oats in a lager kind of defeats the purpose of a lager, but whatever.

>>6248742
How so? you could say the same for wheat...

>>6248749
Wheat isn't going to make it cloudy.

>>6248774
A hefeweizen is cloudy (unless you're talking about the kristallweizen) and cloudiness is of no consequence when brewing a dunkel (dark beer).

You do know there are also black lagers, don't you?

Well, since I was just browsing aimlessly and happened to find this thread here goes:

Can anyone spoonfeed me the information I need on how to make my own apple cider? I fucking love apple cider but it gets really expensive to buy a lot of it and I like the idea of making my own.

>>6248792
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f25/man-i-love-apfelwein-14860/

>>6248792
dig around CraigTubes youtube channel, he's got loads of shit on cider and can show you how instead of us telling you how

>>6249006
Craig is a blind albino who wings everything.

>>6249013
...and he's perfect for people just starting out. He even has a video where he makes cider with just a 2L bottle and a special cap. As beginner-level as he is, he has a great personality.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2UWO3g_CmE

>inb4 "Craig, pls"

>>6248685
a plastic cutlass

>>6249249
epic troll!! xD

>>6249949
it's actually this guy's mom's dildo

>>6249954
Agreed.

Just bought 9 lbs of grain for making a shandy.

My first all grain, gonna mash in an igloo cooler

Is homebrew like making moonshine? I just watched a documentary about Popcorn Sutton and I want to make some moonshine.

Dont make me go blind please ._.

>>6250112
how are you going to sparge?

Stick-on thermometer is more commonly referred to as a fermometer. Kind of gay, but whatever.

So I bought 5 [as I recall] lbs of grain, 1oz of hops, some yeast and proper equipment. Can someone give me a retard's guide for turning this into beer? I have both fresh lemons and dried orange peel I plan on incorporating at some point.

>>6250374
Actually thinking about it I'm probably at 2-2.5lbs of grain. I don't remember but I bought ingredients for one gallon's worth although I'll have leftover hops.

>>6250374
http://www.howtobrew.com/sitemap.html

If you have any specific questions, then ask.

>>6250378
>extract/5 gallons

This isn't really too helpful. I can find my own guide once I stop being lazy and retarded but at what point should I add peels?

>>6250378
Now that I'm thinking about it:

http://realbeer.com/jjpalmer/Howtobrew.html

This is probably the best shortcut guide. Same author.

>>6250385
Add them in the final 5 minutes of boiling your wort.

>>6250395
k thx bb

>>6250374

>proper equipment

Based on your post you clearly have no idea what "proper equipment" is. You should start with a few extract kits and work your way up from the basics.

>5 lbs of grain
>1 oz of hops
>some yeast

Fucking I don't even know how to express how laughable that is.

>>6250469
pls, this is a no bully zone. thx

>>6250532

>start with a few extract kits and work your way up from the basics
>no bully zone

That's the best advice in your thread, OP.

>>6250230

Drain the wort via the tap I installed in the bottom, pour hot water over. Easy peasy.

>>6250216
Moonshining = distilling, concentrating the alcohol out of something that's been fermented. Distilling requires a shitton of special equipment, and you need a license in almost every state to do it.
Brewing makes beer/wine/cider/mead, basically just through the action of the yeast. It's legal to do at home without a license in most states.

I tried brewing for the first time yesterday.
I went to the local brew supply and obtained a 3 gallon carboy, airlock, a hydrometer, some sanitizer and a brew bag.

I also got the ingredients for an amber ale.
3kg of various grains, some cascade hops, and yeast.

All together it cost me 70$.
Pic related. Right before I pitched the yeast.

>>6250374
1 gallon? So I guess this?
http://youtu.be/S_MYSi5Vgzg?t=4m3s

>>6251447
Ballin'. 3 (2.5?) Gallons is actually a pretty good batch size, small enough to do on the stove but big enough to last more than a week. You just have to be able to convert recipes, since most you'll find are written for 5gal. I use brewtoad to help with converting recipes to fit my system, google it, it's just a free website.

>>6251103
Aand...sweat yer arse off while emptying lauter tun.

>>6251820
Man, I hate cleaning my little 10 gallon rubbermaid cooler, I couldn't imagine cleaning that thing.

Speaking of which, wtf do you guys do with your spent grain? I've dried some out and then blended it into flour, it mixes good with regular flour for making cookies and stuff... but the rest of it I just put in a trash bag and throw out, and hooooly shit does that garbage stink after a couple days.

>>6251865
If you have any animals feed it to them, that's what the commercial breweries do with it.

>>6251865
>spent grain
Compost, and start growing some delicious food native to your area.

It's the circcccccccclee of lifffffffffffe

>>6251865
View from the top man hole.

>>6251447
>that grain bed
Trub without krausen looks so sad ;_;
I'm glad that your brew is only a day old, I hope it gets to bubbling soon.

best captcha ever btw

>>6251548
Yeah, I bought the 3 gallon so I could trial run recipes without too much cost. I've already got a couple 5 gallons on their way.

I had to use some calculation software to top off my Wort after I boiled too much off. After diluting I hit my target OG.

>>6252099
I don't know if that amount is a good thing or not. When I woke up the next morning fermentation was well underway, the airlock was releasing every 2-3 seconds. If it's excessive would a second fermenter help ?

>>6252281
>1/2

Normally we try to keep the grain out of the primary fermenter by:
>1) straining it to simply catch the larger grain in a sieve and keep it from entering the wort kettle
>2) filtering it to remove smaller particles that are larger than the sugars but unneeded for fermentation (like the fine grist that separates from the grain)
>3) vorlaufing it (basically recirculating and using the grain bed as the filter)
>4) lautering it (sparging it to rinse that precious excess maltose off)

Your batch won't be useless, granted you took the proper sanitizing procedures seriously and pasteurized your mashy wort to denature the enzymes. Just keep in mind you may end up with some excess unfermentable stuff and byproducts of fermentation *depending on your malt and yeast* that will impart unintended taste like possible diacetyls, acetaldehydes, tannins, dimethyl sulfides, and esters. If you shook your mashy wort up in order to aerate it and let it settle before pitching the yeast you should be okayish. Just keep a close eye on it, looking for mold and any other signs of infection, but keep the airlock on in order to keep out wild yeasts. Racking, siphoning, or funneling it will only create more potential problems. Remember when it comes time to bottling that it's okay to bottle the yeast, but try and keep the grain out of your bottles as it serves no purpose being in them.

The only real problem I see you having is the excess tannins. A secondary problem you'll also have is excess turbidity and chill hazing, but that stuff doesn't really matter at all, except to those who desire really clear beer. Did you take your Original Gravity and Final Gravity measures? Excess crap dissolved in the wort/beer will raise the gravity so it'll be tough to be accurate with recipes. This is assuming you are making ale and not lager. Lagering lets most crap precipitate out.

>>6252520
>2/2

I doubt that this ruined your beer to the point it would be undrinkable, just keep all of this in mind for next time you brew. Make sure to read up on the lautering phase and you'll understand the multitude of reasons for keeping grist out of the fermenter, it really helps keep all the variables under control and ensure the wort you have is a just a sugar water solution of fermentable disaccharides and dextrins (maltose, dextrin, maltotriose).

>>6252520
>>6252524
Follow this only if that is grain and not trub. If that is all yeast then you have nothing to worry about, but still that is a shitload of trub.

>>6252535
Likely an over pitch of yeast
Lack of krausen and vig big yeast bed tells me that the yeast didn't stay in log phase for long

>>6252520
Here is a picture of the fermentation.

>>6252524
I might be wrong, but I used a beer bag so I don't have any grist in there ?

>>6252535
>>6252580

I think this is the photo of the trub

>>6252637

oops

>>6252084

>dat washball
>those fill cone throwers

beautiful

>>6252638
>>6252640

What style of beer was your BIAB? ABV%? If your carboy is near a window or something throw a tshirt on it. Here's a healthy yeast trub. Obviously it changes for different styles and yeasts but yours looks it has a LOT of solutes.

>>6252720
Here's what ideally your should be getting

>>6252722
and here's the so called "egg drop soup" that happens sometimes as well when heavy flocculation occurs. Just let it sit in the dark and between 60-70 degrees and allow it to hopefully sediment out.

>>6250112

Rigged the cooler, just have to actually fucking brew it tomorrow

>>6252715

>dat steel

>>6253318
what are those pink things on the wall? hand sanitizers?

>>6253559
400V power outlets.

I thought dat hydrator/pre-masher would have raised some questions.

>>6253765
how can i work in a place so beautiful? did you go to school for chem engineering or some shit?

>>6252640
It seems especially green, did you put whole-leaf hops in the boil and dump it all in the fermentor? Whole hops take up a ton more volume per oz than hop pellets, so you'll end up with a lot of junk in the fermentor if you don't strain them out or use a sock or something. Not a huge deal, but might make racking it a pain.

>>6252720
>If your carboy is near a window or something throw a tshirt on it.
This. Or just keep it in a dark closet or something. Light skunks hops.

>>6253765
>>6253318
>>6252084
>>6251820
This is great and all, but the topic is HOMEBREW.

>>6254517
It's all at anon's home. He's just homebrewing on a larger scale than the guy with a single carboy.

>>6252720
The recipe was an Amber ale, with a ABV around 5%. I only uncovered the carb to take a picture.


>>6254223
I used hop pellets and they seemed to totally dissolve.

I'll take a better picture in a day or two to try and get the colour of it.

I went out today and bought two more Carboys. I want to start another batch right away as I think this one might be a failure.

>>6254552
No offense, but I would do a lot more reading this time. There's no reason to rush. If you don't have the patience to do some learning, then how can you possibly have the patience to brew beer? Just sayin'.

>nb4 massive amounts of butthurt for speaking common sense

http://www.howtobrew.com/intro.html
http://realbeer.com/jjpalmer/Howtobrew.html
http://brewwiki.com/index.php/Main_Page
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5J8S5nBdUc
http://www.northernbrewer.com/learn/homebrewing-101/
http://braukaiser.com/wiki/index.php?title=Braukaiser.com
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Would adding spices such as anise to the boil yield anything good or interesting?

>>6250216
Look into freeze-concentration. Does not require specialist equipment, just a freezer with enough space.

> be 17 living with parents and uncle in Indiana
>make a small Tupperware container of wine in my closet
>get drunk with friends
>awesome

>uncle moves to Florida
>gives me combination to his storage unit to help with moving
>get idea
>he's gone for a month already but still owns storage locker
>go to lowes and get a big office cooler water jug
>dump water, follow a recipe from somewhere on 4chan to make hard apple cider with 15÷
> actually make it with friend in the storage unit itself
>lock it up
>come back a month later
>new second lock on it that says "see manager"
>wtf

It's been almost a year and it's still there. Thinking about breaking the locks, stealing it back and leaving money for a new lock and a note that says sorry.

>>6254657
>It's been almost a year

its spoiled.

I dont know why theyd try and bust you for that though. Its not illegal to make wine

>>6254552
>I think this one might be a failure.
Everyone thinks their first homebrew might be a failure, but it usually isn't. just be patient with it, let it sit a couple weeks, bottle it, wait another few weeks before you make a judgement on it. Don't try it and then throw it out, beer is usually kind of gross right out of the fermentor.

>>6254657
>recipe from somewhere on 4chan to make hard apple cider with 15÷
>almost a year
This is actually a failure, though.
If you used that pic that doesn't mention sanitizing and that says to secure the top with a paper towel... then after a year it's probably vinegar. Don't bother getting it. (If you sanitized it and put it in a container with an airlock that didn't evaporate, then it might be good though.)

>>6254657
Is it an indoor unit? It's been a few years, but when I signed my lease, I'm pretty sure there were rules about storing liquids. If it's the kind of place I'm thinking of, then liquids could move between the units.

Imagine if someone attempted that in a glass carboy, pitched a bunch of yeast, and didn't put an airlock on. The carboy explodes and beer runs out into the surrounding units. Bad for business.

This thread needs some books, videos, podcasts, websites (I see a few which is nice), etc.

I'd even love some magazines.

Currently fermenting this pale ale with 250g of amber malt for colour and flavour.

Sure did smell like coffee in the mash tune, so I hope I've not overdone it.

>>6250469
I didn't say I was using all of those in one batch you fucktard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lPvk6poj6Y
>not turning a fucking NES into magnetic stirrer

>>6255280

he is the worst disgusting kind of fat

>>6254568
look up gruit

>>6255280
mirin dem quads

>>6255577
fasntnig, thanks.

Homebrewing is amazing. You can legally take plants and yeast and turn them into mind-altering substances. And there's a whole industry waiting to help you get started.

r8 my label idea
I'll add name and shit later, I'll also find someone who can do graphics to make it nice and clean

>>6256144
9/10

>>6256144
/cringe

I prefer to not use labels. It's cheaper, and the bottles are easier to clean and sanitize.

>>6256144
what am i seeing? this is kind of awesome like some gary larson farside shit man, I do abide by this in fact.

>>6256149
thanks, what is the missing 1/10?

>>6256150
/rude ;_;

>>6256153
welp it's a flea brewing beer in an eggshell
I got the idea from a kinda forgotten jazz song from 30's

>>6256144
what beer is going to be behind your label?

>>6256202
any I brew, mostly wheat and ale
It will be a "brand" label, that's why there is no text yet - it will differ beer by beer

Always cool your wort or pre-heat your carboy.

>>6256284
Ouch. Sorry that happened to you.

The good news is that you will never let this happen again. And that's not so bad.

>>6256292

Only about a gallon of wort was lost. The carboy, however, was my parents. That fucker is older than I am.

It'll make a nice bell jar greenhouse for an orchid or some mangroves or something.

>>6256284
>glass

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f85/carboy-brewing-accident-313454/

>>6256284

>one more reason to only use glass for secondary

>>6256354
>http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f85/carboy-brewing-accident-313454/
I read that someone cut an artery once and bled out really quick and died.

I'll still use glass, though.

I don't think this is the right thread, but we definitely need a homebrew sticky.

Hey guys, been planning to brewfor a long time, and have read many books on the subject. I just recently bought some equipment and am going to begin brewing shortly. My issue is I live in a small apartment in a very hot area of California, and it frequently reaches above 80 F even in the winter. What yeast strains/beer styles do you guys think can tolerate these higher temperatures without developing too many fusel alcohols? My plan so far is to attempt a stout using White Labs California Ale Yeast strain since I have heard this preforms well at high temps. Any tips for fermenting at higher temp ranges?

>>6256538
Well, top-fermenting beers like ales will be able to sustain higher temperatures. But you're going to want to find a dark, cool place. Do you have an extra bathroom? The cold air coming up through the drain will help provide lower temperatures.

If not, then maybe someone with more experience can help you.

Got beer?

LMAO!!!!!!!!!

>>6248448
Will this work? can I make it better?

>>6256730
ya know what, thats great good job

>>6256733
I didnt make it, Im a simple man who wants to get drunk.

>>6256730
>napkins

Get an airlock and then it'd be okay. CO2 will go out, but no oxygen should be coming in. It should already have been aerated when you shook the bottle. Airlocks are under $5, so it's better to be safe than sorry. Oxidized cider sucks.

>>6256730
There's a way that skips directly to the 2L bottle:
>>6249150

>>6256730
also skip bakers yeast and get yourself some sexy saccharomyces cerevisiae. Also try to get 100% apple juice, you don't want all the extra shit processing puts into some brands.

>>6256753
following this, got the 6 cap pack

>>6256953
Good luck, bro. I think you'll like how it is almost impossible to screw up. Don't over do the yeast (it'll just waste it) and make sure to refrigerate the rest. If you can make the yeast last, you will end up with the equivalent of this in cider:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTXDAYfRdiE

>>6256965
so keep the yeast in the fridge? It comes with instructions and recipes, which is great

>>6256972
Yup, keep the yeast in the fridge and it will last much longer. And beer brewers, keep your hops in the freezer.

>>6254536

Yeah. I brew 20hl at a time or 30l on the smaller homebrew sized system.

>>6257041
no, but seriously how did you get that job? Or are you a poor mexican janitor with a COOLPIX you found in the parking lot?

>>6257046

I own it with couple of friends.

>>6257175
So your just some nomalfags that pooled resources without a degree? C'mon man, i'm not trying to dox or compete, this shit just fascinates me.

>>6256730
This is how you make it better and probably not waste a shitload of apple juice:
>>6248797

>>6256209
You could change the color of the beer in the eggshell accordingly to the beer in the bottle

>>6256730
I apologize if I am misinformed, but isn't brewing in a water jug potentially harmful?

>>6258199
instant death

>>6258199
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f11/ice-mountain-water-jugs-better-bottles-56936/

tl;dr Avoid polycarbonate #7 bottles, look for #1 and #2. It will be molded into the plastic and say on the bottom.

I'll probably try a few brews in these someday, but you can't scrub the insides clean like glass. Apparently they are non-porous and hydrophobic, though. You just add sanitizer and shake it clean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMNsqTBW55s

Either this guy is a complete moron, or it's too good to be true. I wouldn't even use the cloth, because I'm afraid it could leave microscopic scratches. Looks like a pain in the ass.

I've heard of some people using the same glass carboy for decades.

Brewing looks like so much fun.

>>6259229
It is.

>>6259405
How dare you reply to me, faggot.

>>6255265
That doesn't look like a pale ale, m8.

>>6251447
>>6252640

This guy again. It's been 4 days since fermentation began. Here's an update picture. I'm happy to see it doesn't look like green mud anymore.

>>6254565
Thanks for posting these

So I'm thinking about doing one of those wikhow things to make some cheap alcohol from sugar. Do I really need a siphon hose or can I just run the whole 4l through a coffee filter to get the yeasty bits out?

>>6248448
Why arse you being a hipster faggot?

>>6263097
Consider making something akin to a charcoal filter. Even habitarium sands (assuming you run them a few times with water first to get the crap out) with a thin cotton pad toward the bottom will filter most crap out

If you're concerned with retaining flavor, this isn't the way to go. Since it sounds like you're trying to make rotgut, this ought to make it more drinkable

>>6263097

A siphon hose is easier to use because the coffee filter will clog quickly. It will filter great at first, then it will slow to a trickle and then a drip, meanwhile you still have 3 liters to filter.

The idea behind the siphon is that it leaves most of the crud behind in the fermentation vessel so it doesn't clog your filter.

>>6263693

this.

but you can get around it pretty easily, just use something else as a coarser pre-filter to get rid of the big stuff before it goes into the coffee filter. a sieve, colander, or heck even an old T-shirt or something would work. run it through that to get most of the stuff out, then through the coffee filter to get the fine stuff

>>6263101
Apparently it's hipster to learn a new skill.

>>6263709
Thank you for your advice. Figuring on using a cloth or something, unless the place I buy my yeast has a hose.

>>6263097
>cheap alcohol from sugar
god damn, use some juice, just do this or something:
>>6248797
If you make some gross shit from only sugar and water then you'll have to mix it with something anyway to make it drinkable. You may as well just actually make wine/cider/whatever, keep your yeast healthy enough to ferment a high ABV, and have something that tastes good in the first place.

>>6264189

No prob.

Also, if you do want a siphon there's no reason to buy it at a homebrew store. It doesn't have to be anything fancy--a piece of rubber or plastic tubing works fine and costs very little.

>>6264372
Knowing very little about hoses, my first idea was to find a purpose-sold one that might have less weird chemicals and shit in it. Food grade, etc.

>>6264388

Go to hardware store. Buy a few feet of vinyl tubing. Problem solved for less than a dollar.

where are my kombucha bros at?

>>6264405

I'm right with you. I like a good swig of kombucha before I put amethyst on my forehead. It really amps up its ability to realign my chakras.

>>6264405
nice kombucha hotel!

>>6264405
>where are my kombucha bros at?
>pic related
bro's
>pic not related

>>6264419
I got that pic online but mine is basically the same setup in a 4.5 gallon jar.

If anyone else likes this shit as much as me I'd recommend looking into cornelius kegs for secondary fermentation and storage. You can make a much better tasting, more carbonated kombucha and then you've got 5 gallons on tap.

>>6264405
weaboo tier

>>6264416