/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6180369
>non meat meals

y

>>6180381
I should have mentioned why

I'm trying to replace some of my meals with vegetarian options that uses cheap items you can buy in bulk such as black beans for example to make what is in the pic in my op

>>6180369
>2

>They never do, meat is just too good and filling and amazing. I always crave good meat above everything. (like I would never crave hotdogs or deli meat but I DO crave steak, hamburgers, pork, bacon, chicken, etc)

Things you will need:
Milk of your choice
Cereal
Bowl
Spoon

Pour an appropriate amount of cereal into the bowl
Pour milk over cereal
Eat

>>6180388
>vegetarian

Why? At least cut out some red meats and use fish instead of vegetarian type crap.

>>6180369
>1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat?
1
>2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?
Porridge and a banana with vitamin B and iron suppliments
>3. Post recipes to these non meat meals
Rolled oats + milk + water = porridge. Add a banana with honey and maple syrup to taste. Take suppliments with meal for better absorbtion.

>>6180369
>How many of your meals of the day involve meat?
Most of them. I eat meat about once or twice a week.
>What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?
All of them. Meat has nothing to do with satisfaction to me; it's more about taste and convenience.
>Post recipes to these non meat meals
That would be a fucking book. Maybe I'll write it, but not here.

>>6180369
>1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat?
chicken usually 4 times a week, fish 2 times, pasta once a week

>2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?
I don't eat red meats if that's what you are asking. If the dish requires meat, i wouldn't go out of my way to make some 'fake' meat

>3. Post recipes to these non meat meals
I pretty much just replace any red meats with chicken or fish.

just eat things that usually don't have meat in the first place

-eggs
-pastas
-potatos
-tuna (i don't consider fish worthy to be called meat)
-chicken (bird isn't meat neither)

Some of my top vegetarian dishes are
>fish-style tofu tacos with homemade tortillas
Extra-firm tofu, cut thinly and drain, batter in corn starch and pan fry in canola or olive oil on very high heat(tofu seems to crisp slowly compared to regular meat, using low temps will make the tofu absorb too much oil
>potato soup
Self-explanatory, but not an option for a quick meal. More for days off
>black bean burgers
Black beans, mashed with a fork. Add lime juice to counter the smell and tone down the beaniness. Add chorizo mix and bread crumbs
>fried rice
A lot harder than people think, but once you get it down you can make a healthy meal. Some tricks to turn bland fried rice into awesome without being unhealthy are putting a star anise in your rice cooker, adding a pinch of sugar to the rice after adding it to the wok, and a dash of sesame oil in the water before cooking it.
>homemade ramen
Any noodles, but when boiling them add a pinch of baking powder. My trick is adding ground chili paste to the oil with the garlic while starting the dish. Add shitake/crimini mushrooms, broccoli, and any other vegetables. The trick is to not ever drink the broth after

BTW spaghetti with roasted garlic cloves doesn't even need meatballs, and is helpful when you need a good calorie loading meal the night before work.

>>6180435
Cool post

I eat meat a lot when I actually eat, although I'm often so busy at worked or stressed that I just don't eat anything aside from maybe 1 meal.

Anyway you can make a decent mapo tofu vegetarian. Same with hot and sour soup. Sorry I don't use recipes for things that aren't baking so I can't provide them, but they shouldn't be hard to find. You can also do things like kimbap, or something like a polenta lasagna with (for example) roasted red peppers, portabello mushrooms, grilled eggplant, and some feta. Mushrooms in general are a nice replacement for meat.

>>6180417
>-tuna (i don't consider fish worthy to be called meat)
>-chicken (bird isn't meat neither)

Are you delusional?

>>6180469
who the hell are you to tell me what is and isn't meat?

It's called poultry for a reason and fish is far from meat.

>>6180533
Because they are classified as meat by the FDA and the law and if you look up "Is chicken meat" or "Is fish meat" both answers will be yes you stupid cunt. The flesh of a living creature is meat. The only people who don't believe that fish is meat are religious people and they are stupid enough to believe in a floating man in the sky that makes the world go round.

Stop trying to be all "I'm vegan/vegetarian so I don't eat meat, but chicken and fish is OK because it is not meat because I said so" You look like a pathetic child.

"The advent of civilization allowed the domestication of animals such as chickens, sheep, fish, seafood, pigs and cattle, and eventually their use in meat production on an industrial scale."

meat
/mēt/
noun
1. the flesh of an animal (especially a mammal) as food.

>>6180369
Same meals that give me the same satisfaction as meal meals involve refried beans or eggs or avocado.

>>6180557

>>6180591
He's right

>>6180591
>hurr durr he's smarter than I am so he must be a neckbeard

>>6180557
>(especially a mammal)
You just derailed your own argument, get owned

Things involving beans, tomatoes, and mushrooms are pretty satisfying. Make black bean chili with that stuff + some sweet corn, lime juice, avocado, chili peppers, spices, etc and you're in flavortown

Get some whole grain dish like this on the side and das it mane

http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2014/02/carrot-rye-berry-salad-celery-cilantro-marcona-almond.html

>>6180620
Are you retarded?

Especially != Only

You goddamn moron

>>6180369
i like to make a vegetable and lentil slurry. I start by softening onions and garlic, and then basically throwing whatever's around in with some stock and lentils. pour onto pasta or rice or bread once the lentils cook.

I get seitan takeout every once in a while, that doesn't really hit the same spot as meat but it is really fun food. It is like toy food for adult vegetarians.

>>6180620
>he thinks only mammal flesh is meat

>>6180533
Jesus, you're fucking autistic, kill yourself ASAP.

>>6180369
1) 2/3
2) Cheese pizza
3) Cheese + pizza

>>6180635
>he doesn't agree with me
>hurr durr he's autistic

>>6180369
>1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat?

As many as possible.

>2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?

None.

>3. Post recipes to these non meat meals

a) Take non-meat
b) Throw it away
c) Replace with meat

>>6180369
All of them have meat because I'm /fit/ and that's the price you pay

>>6180369

If meat = red meat then around 0-ish, I mostly eat birds and fish at home

If meat = animal protein then all 3 of them.

Eggs for breakfast, chicken or fish for lunch and dinner

>>6181308
Correct answer here.

>>6180369
1. 1
2. Usually involves some sort of egg, nut, or starch item to fill me up.

Pizza's always good, but it usually needs to be home made if you want it to keep from being greasy as fuck, even then you should have a napkin to dab it.

Once in a while I'll discover vegetable dishes that seasoned/made so well that I don't care their just veggies, but some times I'll still have a bit of bread with them. The Roasted Tuscan Vegetables at Bertucci’s deserves a special mention.
I also like certain salads.

3. Cranberry Walnut Salad:
lettuce and/or other leafy greens.
craisins
walnuts
sliced Granny Smith apple and/or asian pear.
crumpled blue cheese or goat cheese (optional)
balsamic vinaigrette dressing.
Bread stick, roll, or slice (optional)

Pic from google but looks similar to what I make.
A lot of different restaurants have salads similar too this as well.

0-1. I don't generally eat more than 100g of meat in any given day. Days I eat beans, I eat no meat.
Why doth thou ask?

0-2

A bunch of different ones.

I'll just give you one now.
>fry onion
>add passata or similar tomato product
>add peanut butter
>add chick peas
>serve warm with rice and cashew nuts

>>6181680
Oh, and as for 2 and 3:

Pasta with tomato sauce, for one. Parmigiana for another. Um... pasta with beans. Pasta with zucchini-and-eggs. Pasta with pumpkin. Yes: I eat lots of pasta.

pasta with lentils recipe:

lentils, 250g
water, 1 litre
olive oil, 80ml
garlic, 4 cloves
water, boiling, as needed
pasta, 300g
salt, to taste
parsley leaves, fresh, a few handfuls

Put lentils, water, oil and garlic in a pot.
Bring to the boil.
Boil until lentils are cooked through and liquids are thick with bean starch, adding al ittle more boiling water if/as necessary.
Add pasta and boil to desired doneness.
Salt to taste.
Stir in parsley.
Serve.

>>6181683
Also different spices

>>6181656
In case any grammar nazis chew me out:
*that are seasoned/made
*they're just veggies
*similar to this

>>6180369
>1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat?
zero
>2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?
fish, fried veggies, nuts
>3. Post recipes to these non meat meals
too lazy

>>6181924
>>1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat?
>zero
>>2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?
>fish, fried veggies, nuts
>Fish

>>6180369
1. One
2. Eh I guess I don't care much about food but I do love certain spaghetti sauces
3. Spaghetti with cottage cheese, tomato paste, cheese, egg yolks, fried chopped up onion, carrot, and garlic, black pepper, basil, and that other herb italians use. Mix at your own proportions. I fucking love it.

>>6180369
This recipe will change your mind about vegetarian food just a smidge.

it's a "meatball recipe with dal and lots of breadcrumbs and an egg.

It's crunchy and chewy and especially embodies a meatball taste and texture.

Give it a try, you won't regret it.

Http://www.injennieskitchen.com/2010/02/lentil-ricotta-meatballs/

>>6181954
Its not that vegetarian food is bad.
Its just meat is better

>>6181989
Wrong.
Vegetarian food is legitimately bad.
Meatless food, however, often isn't.
What's the difference?
Well, vegetarian cuisine strives to take dishes that are meant to include meat and replace the meat with some analogue that just doesn't belong there like >>6181954's lentil "meatballs."
Meatless dishes are time-tested foods that just happen to not have meat in them to begin with like >>6181694's pasta dishes.

>>6181954
>2 cups cooked lentils, pureed

Oh look, more vegetarian shit that requires a food processor.

>>6182035
>>>6181989
>Wrong.
>Vegetarian food is legitimately bad.
>Meatless food, however, often isn't.

I agree completely.

>>6182039
Your loss, they are amazing.

I've been trying to remove some meat from my diet to to its expensiveness and health concerns. So this morning, I had Pineapple slices, a slice of banana nut bread, and sauerkraut (left over from kielbasa meal last night.) Thoughts?

1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat? usually 1

2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?
big ass sloppy salad
3. Post recipes to these non meat meals
fry onion and eggplant in pan
add cubed sweet potato and small amount of water , simmer for 20 min
pour onion eggplant sweet potato over greens
this wilts the greens
add cilantro , meme sause , vinegar , and hummus
mixx well
you will now have a sloppy salad
chop purple cabbage and put in severing bowl , pour sloppy salad over cabbage
enjoy !

beans and rice is very filling..

>>6180369
>1. How many of your meals of the day involve meat?

One to two. Some weeks more, some less.

>2. What non meat meals give you the same satisfaction as meals involving meat?

You can do a lot with beans. My favorite is pasta with a sort of bean sauce.

Basically you finely dice some onion, garlic, and pepper or whatever you like. Cook it a bit. Add your beans (for this I like white beans) and some butter and I like a little apple vinegar and a bit of some jam. Season. Mash beans while they cook. At this point the beans are mashed into mostly a paste.

Mix it with your favorite pasta and serve with some greens.

really the only non meat meals i eat are breakfast, and then i have eggs

>Wanting to stop eating meat
Back when I was in highschool, there was this pretty 9/10 gril who had a glorious ass. Over summer, she suddenly decided to be a Vegetarian for some reason. She lost her ass, became an annoying cunt, and started dressing like a hippy. I'm convinced 90% of vegetarians only become vegetarians for the attention or because they think it makes them sound more interesting.

In short, don't do it bro. Meat is so massively produced it is dirt cheap now, so the reason for wanting to become a fag can't be because of money.

>>6182257
>meat is dirt cheap
Tofu and mushrooms are still 2-4x cheaper m8. If you hit the dollar menu at Wendy's meat is cheap, if you buy it at a market it sure as hell is not.

>>6182270
>Tofu
>mushrooms
Absolutely disgusting.

Where do you get your meat from and what do you buy? I go to a butcher's shop, they have better meat than supermarkets and if you pop in at the right time they have insanely good prices.

>>6182281
>at the right time
In other words, when certain meat is going out of date. Beef here is 5 dollars per lb, Pork 4, chicken 4, and shrimp ~10. Why not grab a handful of mushrooms for 60 cents instead of 5 dollars for a handful of shrimp for my fried rice? Chicken is pretty shit anyway

>>6182270

Maybe crappy"plain" mushrooms are cheap but the ones that actually taste of something are quite expensive--in my area anyway. Hen-of-the-woods, morels, trumpets, shiitake, etc. are all quite expensive, even the nearly flavorless farmed stuff.

>>6182298
Crimini/Portabella are cheap and not any less flavorful than your average cheap beef. Shitake are the most overrated mushroom. You might as well compare cheap beef to good cuts of meat then, since good cuts are going to run you a premium.

I trust the cheapest mushroom's(crimini) quality over the cheapest meat's quality. Simply put, mushrooms last a lot longer than meat and is a lot easier to transport.

>>6182293

I'm not the guy you are replying to, but keep in mind that those prices can vary a lot. These are all normal prices (not counting sales):

Where I live, Pork and beef starts at from $3.50/lb for the cheap stuff (stew meat or supermarket ground beef)

Chicken is under $1/lb for whole birds; most expensive would be boneless skinless breast at about $3/lb.

>Why not grab a handful of mushrooms?
Well, in my area the cheapest mushrooms are the standard white round ones, which:
A) I don't really like
and
B) Cost more than chicken.

I do love mushrooms but basically everything other than the generic plain ones. And those are more costly than meat. I do buy them, but there certainly not a bargain food in my area.

>>6182314
It depends on if they have bulk. They have bulk mushrooms at farmer's markets near me as well as prepackaged. Mushrooms are light comapred to meat, so a 3/lb mushroom will give you a lot more meat compared to a 3/lb chicken.

prepackaged mushrooms are a ripoff and usually add up to over 10 dollars a pound

>>6182310
>Crimini/Portabella are cheap and not any less flavorful than your average cheap beef.

In my area, the criminis are indeed cheap, but they are nearly flavorless. As they get older and are sold as portabellos then they are tasty, but they cost more than beef does. (I still buy them; I'm just pointing out that in my are they are NOT a cost savings compared to meat)

>>Shitake are the most overrated mushroom.
Agreed they are ovverated, but I find them a hell of a lot more tasty than crimini.

>You might as well compare cheap beef to good cuts of meat then, since good cuts are going to run you a premium.

Yeah, and so are decent mushrooms.

>I trust the cheapest mushroom's(crimini) quality over the cheapest meat's quality.

I don't. Why would you be concerned about the quality of either? Have you had problems with people selling "off" meat?

>>last a lot longer than meat and is a lot easier to transport.

I'm curious how you are storing/transporting them, as I find meat to be much easier to transport and store. For transportation there is little worry about the meat getting crushed, but I am concerned about the mushrooms not getting crushed by other groceries during transport. Likewise for the meat: I can just toss it in the fridge or freezer. For the 'shrooms I have to worry about keeping the humidity correct so they don't dry out or get soggy. Got any shroom storage tips? I usually try and use them up ASAP after buying them to avoid worrying about storage.

>>6182323

They do have bulk. Perhaps it's a regional thing, but in my area the only mushroom that is actually cheap is the crimini, which annoyingly is the one mushroom I don't really like.

>>6182242
Just had some for lunch that I made.

For the beans:
Black beans, dry, 250g
Water, double the amount necessary to cover
Special equipment: pressure cooker

Put beans and water in pressure cooker.
Set to medium-low/low heat and bring to the boil.
Boil at dead-medium-ish pressure for about 20 minutes then off the heat and allow to depressurise on its own.
Open lid. Beans should be done but have remained whole.

For the rice:
Rice, dry, 600g
Water, 350ml
Special equipment: rice cooker or pressure cooker

Wash rice under running water until water runs through it clear.
Put rice and water into rice cooker/pressure cooker and cook.
Hurray, rice.

For the sofrito:
Olive oil, 80ml
Onion, chopped, 2 large
Garlic, sliced, 4 large, 6 average or 8 small cloves
Salt, as necessary
Water, as necessary
Red bell pepper, deseeded, destemmed and chopped, 2 large
Green "frying" pepper, deseeded, destemmed and chopped, 2 large
Yellow bell pepper, deseeded, destemmed and chopped, 2 large

Put oil, onion and garlic into a sauté pan and set to high heat.
Salt generously and sauté until garlic just starts to blond, then add water to cover the pan bottom.
Reduce the water back out and add all the peppers and resalt generously.
Sauté a bit until the garlic start to turn a little brown then add just enough water again, reduce back out and you're done.

Rice and beans:
Sofrito from recipe above.
Black beans and their cooking water from recipe above.
Rice from recipe above.
Salt, pepper and dried Cuban oregano to taste.
>you can approximate the flavour of cuban oregano by combining lots of dried thyme with just a hint of dried lemon zest

Reheat sofrito a bit then add beans and water.
Cook to reduce a tad, then add the rice.
Stir about to combine, then stir in S&P and oregano to taste.
To be honest? I don't even use S&P nor Cuban oregano. I add motherfucking Knorr cilantro cubes. They don't taste like cilantro, actually.

>>6181927
fish isn't meat

meat comes from the animals the roam on these land

fish don't roam on land

>>6182435

Meat consists of all forms of animal flesh. Fish are animals, therefore they are included.
Fish, poultry, and so on are subsets of "meat".

>>6182437
No, fish isn't considered meat or poultry. It's a meat alternative. But if you're a vegetarian, then you stay away from animal products.

>>6182435
Meat is "animal flesh that is eaten as food" tell me how fish doesn't meet this definition

>>6182445
Fish aren't animals.

But if you want to believe what you do, that's fine. I don't care.

>>6182456
i want you to die

>>6182443

Fish are are in the phylum chordata, which in turn is in the kingdom animalia. So, quite clearly, the Taxonomy states that fish are indeed animals.

>>6182459
Look, you can have your beliefs and I can have my own. This is exactly why vegans/vegetarians get no respect, they have a superiority complex.

>>6182495

Sounds like the guy you're talking to isn't either of those things, he eats chicken and fish. Now is it chicken and fish eaters that have a superiority complex?

>>6182456
>Fish aren't animals
Citation, excluding "science" textbooks from the state of Kansas?

>>6182459
>thinks fish are animal
>doesnt know he cant unto normal
>is retard

>>6182495
>beliefs
>implying you can have a belief that runs counter to true facts and not literally be retarded

>>6181683
how much peanut butter? Is it just for taste or should it affect the consistency?

>>6182380
>then off the heat and allow to depressurise on its own.
>Open lid. Beans should be done but have remained whole.
It took me several batches of shattered beans to figure it out. Totally the kind of tips I'm after for vegetable items. Also, underrated post.

>>6184620
>It took me several batches of shattered beans to figure it out

I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the instructions which came with your pressure cooker. Want a tip? RTFM.

>>6182568
Shhhh

>>6184622
moar

Poorfag reporting in.

>bean and vegetable soup
>eggs, usually fried
>veggie and bean soup
>potato and bean soup
>potato and veggie and bean soup
>veggie stirfry
>stirfied veggies with eggs
>soup with eggs

I eat meat about twice a week, if fish and chicken count as meat. Once a week I make a big pot of soup with whatever is on hand.

I also eat oatmeal for breakfast and salad with lunch. I try to avoid corn and wheat because they're cattle feed.

Soup recipe: at appropriate cooktimes:

>oil and spices in pot
>hard veggies in pot
>medium veggies
>leafy veggies and preboiled beans in pot
>add either broth+water or bouillon+water
>cook until it looks good
>???
>congrats, you have a poverty stew

>>6180533

>It's called poultry for a reason and fish is far from meat

So beef isn't meat? What about pork?

>>6180619
found the redditor

>>6181954
imitating meat with veggies is plain stupid, and you will never come close to the taste or texture. veggies are good on their own, if you want something meaty just eat meat

>>6180397
>fish
>cheap

just my dinner

none really. probably pizza or large bag of chips (fries); basically somethiing with lots of starch/carbs

once threw together a plate of (oven) chips with a packet of lidl couscous with curry sauce over it one night when I had nothing else. fucking delicious, even if I've only actually made it once and probably won't make it again

>>6187368
It highly depends on where you live and what fish you use obviously. For instance sole and catfish probably won't ever be cheap, but herring is super cheap and if you live near the harbor there should be fish auctions that always stay below store price. My dad used to buy herring cheaper than cat food and there was plenty of nutrients in it. You would probably have to be a real sailor to eat the crap, but it was cheap.

>>6187431
Sole and catfish are /pretty/ cheap in my area. Catfish, which I don't care for, mind you, goes for about $2.99/lb and sole anywhere between $4.99-6.99/lb, usually centering right dead center there in price.

And, sadly, I don't think I've ever seen fresh herring around here, though I love the stuff. Really do. Delicious smoked herring.

Shit, I can get decent, wild caught (though subsequently frozen) salmon from time to time for as low as $3.19/lb.

>>6180369
> one or two
> Cheese plate with fruit mustard and good bread. Cheese fondue. Raclette. Anything involving good cheese as the main ingredient.
> nah