/ck/ - Food & Cooking

Jokes on you Angus, you have trouble moving.

How can a vegan get that swole?

These guys certainly don't have much fat. That would make a lot of the cuts taste like shit. What's the point? More ground beef, which is already cheap?

Why does that cow have testicles?

>>6111391
Okay, friendo.

>>6111428
I bet you could make some decent chicken fried steak with it.

>>6111391
how do they stop their balls from slapping around if they run?

belgian blue bull, double muscled, low fat, all from traditional selective breeding (no genetic alteration)

its a breeding experiment, just to prove it can be done

>>6111451
>low fat
shame

>>6111433
Because it's a bull.

>>6111469
Why does that bull have no horns?

>>6111473
Does he fucking look like he needs them?

>>6111473
test injections confirmed to shrivel your manhood

If I had testicles like that would the ladies like me?

>>6111490
No, as it was stated elsewhere, you need money for them to like you. Bulls have no money.

>>6111490
no

>>6111473
It's only up to the bread if cattle have horns or not.

>>6111427

5 stomachs and the ability to process proteins that we simply shit out and call 'fiber'

>>6111449

They get an erection any time they charge which pulls their skin taught and mostly stops the ball bouncing effect.

You know how when dogs get excited, even when violent they get a semi boner? Same thing

just kidding I made all that up, but thats my guess

>>6111510

>>6111510
>female
>horns
>big damned horns
When it dies can I have those hollowed out miracles as drinking glasses?

>>6111510
I remember telling kids at my elementary school that cows could totally have horns and they all said I was wrong. I literally had a pair of cow horns at my house from when my dad lived at a farm.

>>6111427
Cud is not vegan.

>>6111580
That's like saying that swallowing your own spit is not vegan.

>>6111593
that's not vegan

>>6111596
YOU'RE not vegan!

On any modern ranch, that bull might never see a heifer or a cow a few months after being born.

When it's time to breed, workers lead him up to a steer to mount. He mounts the steer while one of the worker reaches up with a device and catches the semen when it is released.

The semen is put in straws, frozen in liquid nitrogen, and shipped out to ranchers who bought the semen around the country.

>>6111600
So... why are they breeding bane-cows again?

>>6111600
He mounts a steer?

>>6111622
>He mounts a steer?

Not in every case, but most ranches use steers for the job.

>>6111391
It's called a gun. It goes boom and something dies. We're not Neanderthals. We don't hunt with spears and brute force. That roid cow may be able to bench 900 pounds but its head would explode If I shot it with a large enough caliber. Your bait thread sucks and you should feel bad. But 5/10 for getting me to post.

Nobody would want a hamburger from a bull unless they were really hungry. The meat would be tough.

I'm not how bull mean is used. My guess is it might go for dog food.

>>6111767
I think it deserves more than 5/10 for how well he baited you, tough guy

>>6111767
Ballistics don't work that way. Bones in large animals can provide a significant worry. Large, high velocity rounds have been know to bounce off the skull of bears, because a rounded surface does not make for good striking of any sort.

So have fun getting fucking trampled by frankenbull because you thought you could take it with a .45-70 and one of you got good luck and the other bad.

>>6111391
That's a photoshop... right?

>>6111767
Oh shit you're so tough! I bet you get all the dick!

>>6111811
Read the fucking thread retard

>>6111799

Notice that he used the phrase "large enough caliber".

I remember reading of one limited edition large caliber hunting rifle a few years ago that was something like a .75 or .785 (I don't remember the exact caliber). The rifle cost approximately $100,000 when it came out and each bullet ran about $100 and was supposedly about the size of a cigar.

If the bullet was a hollow-point, it might make the head explode. If not, it would just punch a nice hole in the skull.

>>6111799
This post is such bullshit it makes my dick soft. Even if it "bounced" off of the cows head, the cow would be knocked the fuck out. Where do you think the energy from the bullet goes? Over half of it is probably transferred into the cow's head, if not most of it. That bouncing off the head shit sounds like utter bullshit to me anyway.

>>6111836
Again, that's not how ballistics works. Chucking a larger round or a smaller round or an increased speed or a decreased speed really depends on the target.

Bullet-type is as important as size and velocity these days. And against a very large mammal I would want controlled-expansion if not just solid rounds.

>>6111843

I know of one case where an old woman shot her husband with a .22 revolver. The bullet hit the side of the head from an angle and traveled around the outside of the skull between the skull and skin without cracking the skull and without knocking the old fellow out.

>>6111847

Never heard of elephant guns, have you?

>>6111843
Yeah, surely your arms can take recoil from a round sufficient enough to punch the bear unconscious.

Bad news friend. Firearms are not magical kill-lasers and you as well the target are still subject to basic physics.

We had a steer in a pasture alongside a highway one that had a wound that looked like it had been hitten in the head by a .22.

>>6111848
Yeah, .22 is a pretty tiny bullet. What you just described is part of what can make them so deadly. It penetrates flesh, bounces off of bone and goes to work on whatever organs it comes across.

>>6111600
Oh man I've seen thing being done but with horses. Not pretty.

>>6111857
Are you just pretending to be retarded or what?

>>6111850
You mean old guns that could break your collarbone if not held tight to a physically fit person that didn't always kill the prey?

Oh yes, I know of them.

>>6111864

There's not a big demand for them today. I bet the .75 or .785 (or whatever it was) I described would be available if you looked hard enough.

I don't know of any firearm that always kills its intended target.

>>6111870
>I don't know of any firearm that always kills its intended target.
That was my point. Some animals, especially bears, have proven themselves stupidly resilient. Yeah you CAN kill it, but I believe the original idea was how easy would it be to kill BANEBULL.

>>6111883

Ahhh. That makes sense, then.

Several years ago, I bought a stack of Grey's Sporting Journals. The rifle refew I'm thinking of was in one of those. I may have to go find the boxes and look through them. Grey's Sporting Journal has always been one of my favorite outdoor magazines, anyway, and are always worth rereading.

>>6111391

Oh man, the musclecow. I remember seeing this this like 6 years ago.

>>6111857
>your arms
Confirmed for knowing nothing about guns. Either that or you hunt with a pistol.

>>6111894
Funny. Arm is usually defined as everything from shoulder to wrist.

Do you prop your gun against your pectoral before firing?

Twat.

>>6111857
>I don't know how to hunt, guise!!!
I manage to take down elk with a .270 WBY magnum easily enough. The recoil isn't too bad, but I'm not a fuccboi like you.

>>6111908

I used to have a picture of an old-timer shooting a three guage shotgun he built himself. He was using a tree to take the recoil.

>>6111908
Your shoulder is just your shoulder, and it is what absorbs the majority of recoil from the gun.

In the case of shotguns, I had a neighbor growing up who had a 10 guage shotgun.

I never asked to shoot it and he never offered to let me shoot it.

>>6111449
They don't.

They also don't run very often.

>>6111428
>>6111456

>muh fat
>muh flavor

>>6111975
hi

>>6111847
you are really REALLY overstating the effects of bone and deflection in ballistics.

And bears are not cows. A 454 casull can take a grizzly, but you only need a 10mm or maybe a .357 for a steer, tops

>>6111391
Why is this pic turning me on?

>>6111975
>i'm cool for hating things that taste good
you're not

>bullets-proof mammals

civilian hunter rifles are used to hit game under the ribcage or into the neck
if you take the appropriate caliber his skull looks like a dropped watermlon

>>6111391

(approaches with a cleaver)

>>6112039
I've killed plenty of cattle with a .223. I've also seen someone put 5 .223 into a bulls chest and shoulder to no effect.

Basically you need to hit square on the skull.

>>6111955

There were two bulls, one young, one old, standing on a hill looking over a pasture of heifers and cows.

The young bull says, "Let's run down there and impregnate one of those heifers and cows."

The old bull says, "Let's walk down there and impregnate all of those heifers and cows."

>>6111788
Most beef comes from steers which are castrated bulls.

>>6111427
have very low levels of myostatin

>>6111449
what do you think you're balls do when you run, kiddo?

>>6113188
exchange witticisms and play chess

>>6111539
What bread of cow is that?

>>6113188
Stuck in my anus, right?

>>6113211
lol'd

>>6111531
Fibre are carbs, not proteins, mong.

>>6113157

Maybe or maybe not.

Nearly all beef comes from either heifers and steers. In fact, because of mad cow concerns, very little, if any, beef in the US today comes from cows or bulls. There are generally limits on how old the cattle can be when slaughtered.

Just as some males are left uncastrated for breeding purposes, some females are bred for breeding purposes and become cows.

Since more females will be bred to become cattle than males will become bulls, it does seem likely that most beef will come from steers, but that does appear to an extent on the ratio of male to female cattle births.

But if the ratio is approximately equal, then there will be a few percent more steers than heifers that are slaughtered for beef.

>>6113157

Also, there is a major qualitative difference between beef from bulls and beef from steers. Beef from steers is going to be pretty much indistinguishable from beef from heifers. If the steer had not been castrated, the beef would have been quite tough.

>>6113429

Heifers tend to mature faster than steers. If you have a healthy heifer and a healthy steer the same age, you are likely to get more beef from the heifer than the steer although there is a little bit more waste from a heifer than from a steer.

On the other hand, if the heifers are slaughtered sooner, much of that difference would disappear.

>>6111391
You don't have the stomach to fight me

>>6113439
I assume it would be like goat meat where nannies and whethered kids taste alike but bucks (whethered or otherwise) and teasered billies are very, very strong tasting. Most people find the meat from bucks and teasers to be unpleasant. Whereas kid, whether and nanny meat tastes like mutton and mutton tastes like lamb^2, uncastrated male goats, teasered or intact, tastes like mutton^2 crossed with the odour of a guinea pig cage.

Anyway, the reason that most cattle used in beef production are steers is because heifers are more valuable for breeding purposes (once they become full-fledged cows, of course) or for dairy.

What's the cattle equivalent of a teaser? In case there isn't one, a teaser is a buck/billy goat that's been given a vasectomy so that it will detect nannies in heat so they can be separated out and artificially inseminated.

>>6113521
Tripe always looks fucking disgusting.

>>6113565
have you ever smelled cow foot stew?
the smell is horrible i used to leave the house for a day when it was cooked

>>6113562
>goat meat where nannies and whethered kids taste alike but bucks (whethered or otherwise) and teasered billies are very, very strong tasting. Most people find the meat from bucks and teasers to be unpleasant. Whereas kid, whether and nanny meat tastes like mutton and mutton tastes like lamb^2, uncastrated male goats, teasered or intact, tastes like mutton^2 crossed with the odour of a guinea pig cage.
are you speaking english?

>>6113585
You's crazy, nigga! That shit smells delicious.

>>6113585
Nah, but that sounds vile.

>>6113590
Yes.

Glossary4U:
Nanny: female goat.
Whether: castrated male goat.
Kid: young goat.
Buck: adult male goat.
Teaser: male goat after a vasectomy.
Billy: young male goat.
Mutton: meat from adult sheep
^2: "to the power of 2"
lamb: young sheep; can also refer to the meat of young sheep

>>6113565
that's because


*SPOILER*(IT IS DISGUSTING)*SPOILER*

>>6113562
>Anyway, the reason that most cattle used in beef production are steers is because heifers are more valuable for breeding purposes (once they become full-fledged cows, of course) or for dairy.

Nope.

It doesn't take that many heifers to be withheld each year to be used as beef cows.

As for dairy cattle, you have very little, if any, crossover from beef to dairy because beef cows do not have the same milk production as dairy cows. It's not even close.

On the other hand, you do see feedlot pens full of dairy breeds on occasion. I know one feedlot manager who frequelty keeps a few pens of dairy breeds in his feed lot.

>>6113562

Not sure what you mean by "once they become full-fledged cows, of course". The cows usually become cows because they were singled out as heifers to become part of the breeding herd. Remember that the definition of a cow is a female cattle that has been pregnant.

The only exception I know of on a modern farm/ranch to where a heifer might become pregnant without having been specifically selected for breeding is if a bull somehow got in the pasture with them. In the cases I know of, it is because of an error.

Whenever you get a new load of cattle, you keep the apart from your other cattle initially. This is partially to look for signs of disease, but also because you haven't given them shots, castrated the males, branded the cattle, notched their ears, and dehorned those with horns. Sometimes you might get a load of cattle in which the males have already been castrated, but you still have to check every one of them for balls. If you miss one (I've seen it happen), it could end up impregnating several heifers. That is not what you want to see because it means that you are going to lose money on those cattle.

>>6113565
kinda reminds me of this

>>6113829
>explaining what a cow is.
Yes. That's why I said "full fledged cow." IE, once they've gotten knocked up, they're cows and aren't used for beef anymore. They're used either for dairy or for breeding, depending on breed/purpose of the cattle/herd in question.

>>6113802
You misunderstood me but perhaps I'm misunderstanding beef production.

I meant that cows, regardless of breed, are used either to make more cattle or for dairy. Beef cows are used only for breeding purposes, no? I mean, since one bull can father a kajillion calves but one cow might only mother maybe 20 (usually far, far fewer, since she will often head straight to the canner), isn't it more economical to slaughter far, far more steers? And since only heifers can become cows, aren't they more valuable as breeding animals than as meat animals? And wouldn't that mean that the majority of beef comes from the opposite sex IE steers?
I didn't mean to imply that beef cows are ever used for dairy.

Though, unless I'm mistaken, aren't male dairy calves used either for veal or for breeding and that's it? Dairy heifers are always raised to be cows and never slaughtered for veal, right? And old cows or bulls for either beef production or breeding/dairy are sold as utility beef, used in fertilisers, making commercially prepared beef stock, pet foods and other stuff like that, like old hens and cockerels are, right?

>>6114150

If a heifer is made pregnant accidentally, it is still likely to end up sold for beef. Having one calf isn't going to take it past the point where it would no longer be used for beef because of mad cow concerns.

The gestation period is approximately 283 days -- about 9 1/2 months. A beef cow will usually be bred again soon after it has a calf. Figure about 10-15 calves through the lifetime of a cow depending on several factors.

One thing to keep in mind with heifers is that there are far more heifers out there than is needed for producing more cattle. That goes for beef production and for dairy production.

By the way, cattle born in feedlots are generally either killed or given away. I know several people who get a few free calves from the nearby feedlots every year and raise them by hand.

>>6113474

Heifers mature faster, ie they reach their maximum size a bit faster. Steers will reach a larger maximum size since they keep growing for a bit longer.

>>6113892
AHHHHHHHHHH

>>6113892
What the hell is that

>>6113521
The worst part of that image for me is the carrots. I hate seeing them prepared so apathetically. Tripe texture is pretty disgusting though.

>>6111391
Aww look at the belgian blue, I ate one of you just last week.

>>6111391
*unsheathes katana*
I'll take a swing at that

>>6111440
>filename
ha