/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6044926
Its much better with out marshmallows and a lot more cinnamon, sugar, brown sugar, butter, and corn syrup.

Shit posting and trolling is not allowed here.

That is flyover food from 30 years ago.

>>6044926
Oh yes. A staple of Thanksgiving.

That's like a Thanksgiving dessert
Not really something a lot of people eat on the regular

>>6045002
Thanksgiving in the Midwest maybe.

>>6045013
>tfw served that in Maryland and New York state
Your Thanksgiving must be shit.

only on thanksgiving, and in my family we use like 1/10th the marshmallows

sweet potato, brown sugar, butter, and crushed corn flakes with about 2-3 marshmallows per large spoonful of the sweet potato mixture

>>6045022
Jesus you must be pleb tier.

>>6045035
You probably don't even have oyster dressing either. You probably celebrate Festivus too.

I have literally never seen this. What is it? It looks disgusting.

>>6045043
>I didn't look at the filename!

>>6044926
I have legitimately gotten into fistfights with siblings over sweet potato casserole. It's something we only have like once or twice a year and it's practically candied bliss.

Have fun with your pickled sorrow OP, I'll be happily enjoying my candied bliss next chance I get.

>>6044926
What's the texture like on that sucker?

>>6045067
Mashed potato + Stickiness from the marshmallows. Most people give it a stir before consumption so it's a combination of sticky and slightly smooth.

>>6044926
>not knowing the greatest that is sweet potatos and marshmallows

I pity you Anon

>>6045072
I see. I'll pass

>>6045089
I was describing texture. Not taste. The taste is quite good.

>>6045092
I have had them and no they are not good.
Casseroles should never be sweet.

>>6045096
They're a dessert. Desserts should be sweet faggot. I will fucking fight you.

>>6044926
I have relatives who bring this dish to Thanksgiving dinner. It is bad. It is just one of a slew of bad recipes that women's magazines popularized from the 1950's through the 1970's as awful prefab foods newly available in postwar supermarkets were marketed as "modern".

Two generations of Americans grew up eating crap like this, and it still hangs on among some people. This kind of shit usually gets trotted out for family gatherings, because it takes the place of traditional foods that fell out of fashion in the modern era. Another example is the green bean casserole with cream of mushroom soup and canned fried onions. (pic related).

This is not so much typical American food as it is Mad Men era garbage that still manages to live on along the edges of our food culture.

>>6045099
I'll see you on the funny pages you sisterfucking hick

>>6045108
This exactly.
If you have relatives that are long haul truckers or in law enforcement, you probably have eaten this stuff.

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>>6044926
Their sense of sweetness is really fucked up. It's because of this:

Tap water tastes unpleasant.

Bottled has unpleasant stuff removed. but not has slight plastic taste.

Drink soda with shit to cover plastic taste.

Half the people I know never drink unsweetened water.

>be whole foods vegan
>go to family thanksgiving because those shitshows are fascinating
>fat balding type II diabetic talking about recent diagnosis of vitamin D deficiency
>decides not to anything about it because insurance won't pay for the supplement
>costs peanuts and has decent job
>sugar in the squash, don't eat it
>nothing green
>just a sea of beige

>>6045138
>pumpkin pie left untouched for being too nutritious

>>6045108

>green bean casserole
>bad

Pick one faggot, that stuff is god tier with some turkey and stuffing.

>>6045108
While you have the history part of it down, I have to say that the new incarnations of these "classics" of the mid-century can be wonderfully tasty. Personally, I've never liked that sweet potato-marshmallow garbage, but some of the new styles of sweet potato casserole are fantastic. And if you've never made green bean casserole from scratch (as in, fresh beans, no canned soup, no canned onions, and the addition of other fresh and better quality ingredients) then you haven't seen just how great it can be.

>>6045146
You have gone off topic.
We were shown a casserole with marshmallows

>>6045122
>relatives that are long haul truckers or in law enforcement
Or who live in Pennsylvania. Nice place with nice people, but a visit there is like going back in time. In some ways that's cool, because you can find German-American stuff that's disappeared from most other places on the East Coast. (Also a few Italian American gems like a Philly hoagie and a roast pork sandwich). But in other ways it's depressing, because so many people hang on to some of the worst foods from the last century. There are still people there who make "salads" out of Jell-O.

>>6045157
It's not off topic. What I'm saying is that the overly sweet, gooey, marshmallow sweet potato casserole is now evolving into much better versions, as people go back to cooking from scratch and forgoing the food gore era products.
The OP make a blanket statement ">american food", and there's a million rebuttals to that.

>>6045166
This gentrification of 50s staples exists on the internet and in about 100 kitchens nationwide.
Its hardly a resurgence.
For the most part these dishes are being abandoned wholesale without so much as a backwards glance.

>>6045172
Proof or GTFO.
Every resurgence or movement starts small and grows exponentially. There are more people this year than last year who are taking back those staples and improving upon them, and it will keep growing as the years go by.

>>6045146
>I have to say that the new incarnations of these "classics" of the mid-century can be wonderfully tasty.
This is how "New American"chefs get Michelin stars. Many of these dishes work on a conceptual level. Look at mac & cheese; the concept is so good that plenty of folks even enjoy the garbage tier example that comes from a blue box.

I'm just saying that the form these dishes usually take, relying on specific brands of convenience food as ingredients is usually terrible. Like Ro-Tel tomatoes and Velveeta cheese microwaved together in a bowl.

>>6045181
>Ro-Tel
I know you didn't just talk shit on canned tomatoes and green chile.
I am going to imagine that was a typo

>>6045195
I'll talk shit on canned food all day. Canned food sucks.

>>6045181
>I'm just saying that the form these dishes usually take, relying on specific brands of convenience food as ingredients is usually terrible. Like Ro-Tel tomatoes and Velveeta cheese microwaved together in a bowl.

Well, sure. Because those "recipes" were marketed directly by the companies that made those products. I have a whole collection of mid century food gore cookbooks that were produced by the manufactures - Jello, Kraft, Campbells, and much more. They used to give those little cookbooks away at grocery stores with purchase, and they still produce them, all marketed to people who don't know much about cooking and would rather use premade products.
But, that doesn't negate the resurgence of people who are making those old staples from scratch and improving on them.

>>6044926
I was very confused recently to see a mulled cider recipe that involved adding caramel to the cider and putting whipped cream on top.
Even after being informed that american 'cider' isn't actually alcoholic, it still sounds absolutely vile.
From experience, American food seems to be uniquely sweet but bland. I had lemonade there once as a child and it still ranks in the top ten worst things I've ever drunk.

>>6045181
My family ears this stuff. Fucking disgusting. I don't know how you can be okay with eating "cheese" that doesn't need to be refrigerated.

>>6045219
>But, that doesn't negate the resurgence of people who are making those old staples from scratch and improving on them.
How could it? The best examples fall under the umbrella of "New American", and that shit gets Michelin stars.

The only reason so many food gore dishes from the last century hold on in our culture is because some of them were actually tasty, in a highly processed, artificially flavored kind of way. Because some of that shit WAS clever as fuck. You HAVE to be pretty fucking clever to get people to pay a premium for what amounts to shitty food.

Kraft Singles are another great example. I'm not a fan, but there are many people who will not make a grilled cheese sandwich or a cheeseburger without them. Because they're designed to melt to a very particular texture on a hot sandwich, and if you're a fan of that texture nothing else will do. They're really not cheese so much as solidified cheese sauce. And people generally love cheese sauce.

>Not liking potatoes and molasses

>>6045133

I have seen you shill this water filter shit so many fucking times on here. Do you really have nothing better to do?

>>6045138
>>just a sea of beige

Hoy shit, this. I was telling my wife about it at thanksgiving:

>turkey? beige
>mashed potatoes? beige
>green bean casserole? topped with beige onions
>white flour rolls? beige
>sweet potato casserole? marshmallows on top, baked to a nice FUCKING BEIGE

>>6045133
>>6045241
Americans have loved sweet drinks since we were a colony. Slavery didn't just give us cheap cotton and rice, it gave us cheap sugar as well, and we've been dumping that shit into our drinks from the start. How else could we come up with shit like sweet tea and Coca-Cola? Even our athletes drink heavily sugared "sports drinks", because until very recently few Americans would drink water by choice.

>>6045258
That has always disgusted me.

>one of the many daily ">AMERICAN" threads

booooooring

>>6044997
what is flyover food. I keep seeing people say that here.

>>6045568
Don't respond to the flyover fag, it's legit one or two dudes trying to shoehorn the word for everyday use here even though they don't know what it means, one of them actually stayed up all night spamming it into every thread and dodging bans.

>>6045013
I grew up in California and my family has always done this, my grandparents are even California natives. I feel bad for you guys, because it's fucking delicious. I do it with real yams of course, and the butter and brown sugar is key. I actually just pulled my thanksgiving leftovers out of the freezer. No Marshmallows, but they're still yum.

>>6045568
Flyover basically means anything or anyone from or in the middle of the united states. Especially the midwest.

It's a stupidass meme.

>>6045013

Hotdish!

>>6045604
But in the context of /ck/ it means nothing since it's just one jackoff throwing it into every thread.

Americans love their unsophisticated children's foods.

>tater tots
>fish sticks
>mac n cheese
>hot dogs
>bologna
>pizza
>french fries
>crustless bread
>grilled cheese sandwiches
>etc

>>6045577
Plenty of white trash in California.

>>6045627
Most Americans I know eat nothing off that list.

>>6045009
but who was pumpkin pie

>>6045641
Then they are either not American or are not white trash American.

>>6044926
>Oh no people eat sweet desserts!

>>6045667
>sweet desserts
you mean diabetes. They eat diabetes, that's what this is

>>6045108
green bean casserole is amazing you cumguzzling fuckshit plebnigger

>>6045641
I don't believe you because pizza is on that list, and the only Americans who don't eat pizza are filthy vegans who everyone knows aren't real Americans at all.

>>6045659
Most educated Americans have good diets and are thin.
Its the blue collar rural people that are super fat and eat MacDonalds.
We have a large, well paid underclass that eats enormous portions and skews the demographics considerably.

>>6045679
While I love pizza, no one I know eats it on a regular basis.
How could you? Its so calorie dense you would be obese by 30.
You will rarely see fit people eating pizza.

>>6045690
You said "eat nothing on that list."

Also I see plenty of fit people eating pizza, they just don't eat large portions of it. A slice of pizza is usually only between 200 and 400 calories.

Pizza isn't even particularly bad as long as you aren't eating half of one by yourself.

>>6045577
I'm curious because American terminology is a bit weird, by "real yams" do you mean like orange sweet potato or do you mean picture related?

>>6045641
>most Americans I know don't eat pizza or french fries

Who you trying to fool, kid?

>>6045698
>A slice of pizza is usually only between 200 and 400 calories
>A slice
>only between 200 and 400 calories
>only

You murican faggots never seizes to amaze me

>>6045702
My circle of friends only eats organic hipster food.
Really.

>>6045708
It's almost like a slice of pizza and a glass of water makes a meal

>>6045708
One to two slices of pizza is a serving as a main dish for dinner. That's perfectly reasonable.

>>6045710
Is your circle of friends the only American's you know? Also what's the point of your buzzword, could you not make pizza or french fries with organic ingredients?

You legit make no fucking sense, get out scrub.

>>6045718
Sorry if my friends don't eat pizza hut and MacDonald's.
Many many Americans are like this.

>>6045718
>get out scrub.
It would also never occur to them to use the term "scrub".

>>6045700
Orange sweet potatos are commonly referred to as "yams."

By "real yams", the poster is disambiguating to say "No really, I mean actual yams."

>>6045763
>By "real yams", the poster is disambiguating to say "No really, I mean actual yams."

He might also mean that he's using fresh sweet potatoes over canned. Given that african yams wouldn't produce a dish remotely similar to the one in the OP and most Americans aren't aware they exist.

>>6045787
this
in america we have fresh sweet potatoes that are called sweet potatoes, canned sweet potatoes tat are called yams, and real yams are called african yams or ignored completely

this is because of slavery

>>6044926
That's how my mom cooks sweet potatoes for thanksgiving. Though she only uses 6-8 of those larger marshmallows.

>>6045758
Sorry your friends are so stupid they think that those are the only sources of pizza or fries.

Actually I guess I do feel sorry for you, those probably are the only sources in whatever f%l%y%over hellhole you reside in to even think that.

>>6044926
Just because you're a retarded brit that's not only being overrun by islamics so we call you Englanistanis but you can't take proper American food.

My mom used to make that as part of Thanksgiving dinner, she did it pretty damn well too, she was a professional chef for a time while my dad owned a very nice restraurant. You poorfag Englanistanis would only be so lucky as to try some of hers.

Now go eat your fish & chips wrapped in filthy roach encrusted newspaper.

>>6045830
Not saying OP isn't a brit, I have no clue, but that always seems to be the knee jerk reaction on here when America is talked about in a negative light.

4chan is full of people from plenty of other countries, and the biggest group of shitposters is Australians. That should really be the first to blame.

We make sweet potatoes, but the casserole variety along with GBC are banned at my turkey day table. My family tradition has been to shun those foods since childhood.

The inlaws, however treat them as a centerpiece. The sweet potatoes they served me were crunchy with the amount of brown sugar mixed in AND had marshmallows on top.

TBH, if made right it's delicious.

>Sweet potato casserole
>Marshmallow topping
>Not superior Pecan/Brown Sugar topping

>>6045814
There is no such thing as healthy pizza and fries anon.
Sorry.

>>6045872
I never said there were, sorry you either can't read or are just desperately moving goalposts.

>>6044926
Lol had this just the other day and it was pretty good. Would of liked pecans or walnuts into though

>>6045872
>thin crust
>tomato sauce
>light sprinkling of cheese
>sun dried tomatoes, spinach and cracked pepper topping

sounds healthy to me

>>6044934
babby's first post?

>>6045855
Same is true in my family. My mother never made sweet potato with marshmallows on top, nor did she ever do green bean casserole. It's my aunt who insists on bringing that shit because she likes it, and knows my mother isn't going to make it.

Guess which side of the family turned out less affluent?

>>6045949
>not liking green beans bathed in a thick hearty soup made from chicken broth, mushrooms, butter and cream

>>6045961
I generally don't eat food from cans.

>>6045967
who said anything about cans?

>>6045893
>I say my friends don't eat pizza
> anon interpretes that as "my friends have never had so much as a bite of pizza.

Sperg much?

>>6045968
Last time I checked the recipe for GBC involves condensed cream of mushroom soup from a can and fried fucking onions from a can. I'm sure someone somewhere has created an elevated version of it, but that's not what Americans are shoveling into their mouths at Thanksgiving.

>>6045985
>2014
>not loving Tater Tot Hotdish

>>6045991
Someone should ask /r to put a dead squirrel in the picture then that would look like true West Virginia food.

>>6045985
ive ever seen it made that way

>>6045991
I'd like to try some sort of tuna noodle version of that hot dish

>>6044926
>this is now a thread about *good* american food

Hoppin' John is a peas and rice dish served in the Southern United States. It is made with black-eyed peas (or field peas) and rice, chopped onion, sliced bacon, and seasoned with a bit of salt.[1] Some people substitute ham hock, fatback, or country sausage for the conventional bacon; a few use green peppers or vinegar and spices. Smaller than black-eyed peas, field peas are used in the Low Country of South Carolina and Georgia; black-eyed peas are the norm elsewhere.

>>6046043
shrimp and girts

>>6046010
That's clearly food from Minnesota.

>>6046048
In its basic form, country captain is a mild stew made with browned chicken pieces, onions, and curry powder. Almonds and golden raisins or zante currants are usually added. Many versions also call for tomatoes, garlic, and bell peppers. The dish is served over white rice

>>6046054
>>6046048
>>6046043
can you define american first?

in my mind american is stuff like southern/french fusion, julia child, etc

but i want to know what you think it is

>>6046055
>define american

For the purposes of this conversation I will define "American cuisine" as any dish that did exist in a recognizable form until it was created in United States of America or the colonies that went on to become the United States of America.

Pizza is not American. Hamburgers (despite the German name) did not exist in a form that anyone would recognize as being a hamburger until they were invented in the US therefore hamburgers are American.

>>6046058
Pizza and tomato sauce in particular are absolutely american.

>>6046058
pastrami on rye from Katz's delicatessen in Manhattan

>>6046063
This kind of pizza is uniquely American

>>6046067
New England clam chowder

>>6044926

an American friend had a late thanksgiving dinner yesterday for our friend circle because she couldn't back travel home for the holidays. I She made this and she was so excited about it, I just couldn't tell her how shitty it tasted, it was so terrible

>>6046063
Nah
There's american style pizza, which falls in to various subcategories, but Pizza and tomato sauces aren't American
at the very least not USAmerican

>>6046070
this is one of my favorites

>>6046082
carolina style pulled pork sandwich

>>6046088
The Monte Cristo sandwich is absurdly unhealthy but it also mind bendingly delicious. This is one of the rare example of when the most indulgent tendencies in American cooking actually result in something that tastes good.

A ham, turkey and swiss cheese sandwich is dipped in batter, deep fried, dusted with powdered sugar and served with jam for dipping.

>>6046105

>>6046088
grilled cheese

>>6046100
>>6046112

also the reuben

>>6046112

>>6046120
cobb salad

>>6046112

bad Rummy...BAD.

>>6046129
no u

>>6046174
fried okra

>>6046185
is fried okra slimy?

>>6046174

NO U, FGGT

>>6046199

it's about the same texture, consistency and viscosity of vaginal discharge, not that you'd have any reference point for that.

>>6046199
Fried okra is not slimy. Unfortunately it's not very good, either.

>>6046199
Not to me, but people who grew up in the North seem to think so.

I've never actually had it with marshmallows

>>6044926
I'm going to make this, but without the yucky vegetables

>this thread is making me hungry

>>6046199
Im scandinavian, and they were not all slimey to me, and I had them at cracker barrel.

>>6044933
My mom does this. It's really, really good. And she uses fresh yams.

>using canned yams

>>6045013
Live in nyc and have it every year faggot

>>6045108
I usually find it mediocre but I had some at an expensive catered party.

Goddamn it's so good if it's properly cooked and all ingredients made from scratch. None of that canned shit.

>>6046063
>dish that's existed in the Mediterranean in some form or another since ancient Greece
>lol yup dats murrkan

>>6046586
Depends on how far you go with "some form".
Some people say tortilla with cheese and tomato sauce is a pizza.

>>6045241
We have both alcoholic and non-alcoholic cider. People tend to call alcoholic cider hard cider.

>>6046586
that's right you ancient fuck
what are you gonna do about it

>>6044926
>living with GF
>mention I'm going to make some sweet potatoes
>she gags and says, "ew those are so sickening sweet"
>I'm like "lol wut?"
>she talks about the exact dish in the OP

I had some sweet potatoes from my garden that I fixed by roasting and broiling them in my toaster oven. I served them with some salt and a little butter. She loved them.

>>6046639

Tips fedora*

>>6045991
I bet they used frozen vegetables as well.

>>6045108
That shit is great if you make it right. Most likely, your family is retarded and made it how Campbells(TM) wanted them to make it. You are most likely just as dumb because genetics.

>>6046070
That's CHOWDAH babby!

>>6045180
>There are more people this year than last year who are taking back those staples and improving upon them, and it will keep growing as the years go by.
bullshit

>>6044926
that's the poor version--canned yams and marshmallows. we still make that one because of tradition, but now we also make this--and its amazing
>fresh sweet potatoes
>crushed pecan crumble topping

>>6045099
dessert? we always eat it with our meal. desert is the time for pie. then we take a food break and have potato candy after that

>>6045627
thats just trashy food. you only eat that if youre poor or drunk

>>6047699
forgot pic...

>>6046586
>Implying Europe had Tomatoes back then.

>>6046586
>Tomatoes are a "new world" fruit. The first tomato sauces were made by ancient South Americans. These spicy sauces/salsas also employed chilies, peppers, and other finely diced vegetables. About salsa. The practice of combining pasta and tomato sauce originated in the late 18th century. Ragus, sugos and tomato gravies proliferated. By the middle of the 19th century, tomato ketchup became America's favorite condiment. Italian-American pasta dishes (Spaghetti and meatballs ) slathered with tomato sauce gained popularity in the 20th century.
http://www.foodtimeline.org/foodsauces.html#tomato

>>6045096
It's sweet potato, not regular potato. It blends a lot better than you'd think. Mashed potato wouldn't blend at all with marshmallow, but sweet potato always did work rather differently.

It's a lot more smooth, works well with deserts at times, goes well with a bit of cinnamon, and the taste is much more pronounced.

>>6047714
All those tomato paste based pasta dishes were invented on the east coast in the 1930s.

>>6044926
Euro trash plese

>>6045659
hey fuck you buddy

>>6046070
>there are eurofags on this board right now who've never had new england clam chowder

>>6046100
>tfw american and i'm just now findng out about this

holy christ

>>6045991
it looks like jail food barf.

>>6044926
Personally I really don't care for the marshmallows, but the mashed sweet potato/yam/whatever the fuck it is we have in this country, is pretty tasty.

>>6045133
Other people think tap water tastes gross too? I thought I was just a freak or something. Though I do enjoy fruit juice and all that jazz it's pretty bad for you in the end. Really I just ended up switching to carbonated water, or water with lemon juice squeezed in. At least this way I'm not ingesting tonnes of calories from sugary drinks.

>>6046112
>making your grilled cheese with nasty ass cheese instead of mild nutty heaven

>>6048379
Not an american sandwich. Its French.

>>6045133
>>6049243

AMERICA IS A 3.8 MILLION SQUARE MILE COUNTRY WITH 117.5 MILLION HOUSES

IM SURE ALL THE TAP WATER TOTALLY TASTES THE SAME

No fuck you, Kentucky tapwater is delicious.

>>6050712

nice try frog

>>6050767
In French its called croque-monsieur.

>>6050765
Tap water is never delicious but it does vary wildly. I have 2 cousins that live in NYC, I forget the exact borroughs but I know in one my cousin never drinks from the tap because its so terrible and in the other my other cousin hardly ever buys bottled water because the tap water is so good she thinks its a waste.