/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>6020530
>any year
>eating "mayo" that comes out of a plastic envelope

>>6020536
>missing the point entirely

>>6020530
Do you know any other brands that do this?

Dunno about your country but with most products in my country, different companies use different ingredients and different methods. It's not just a case of name or packaging for me. Obviously there are exceptions though.

>>6020565
Not OP and not off-hand, but yes: several, several companies do this. A lot of homebrand/storebrand breakfast cereals are manufactured by Kellogg's, Post and General Mills, for example.

The costs of these off brand products have been rising so much as to be near equal to the brand names.

>>6020591

Check out Aldi or Sav-A-Lot.

>>6020565
A lot my son. Also Kellogs

>>6020598
Those don't exist in my area.

>>6020573

Campbell's is another one.

>>6020566
They can repackage their products and user generic brand names. Also, sell those second or third quality products when a batch does not compl with the high tier level of its recognized brand

>>6020615

Well were do you live? Wal-Mart brand is considerably cheaper then name brands still and who doesn't have Wal-Mart.

You're in the US, no? Just wondering because >>6020566
mentioned specifically his "country"

I still find the off brands to be at least 20-50-75 cents cheaper, which will add up eventually.

>>6020620
I got a walmart nearby. Arrested Development land has a very high cost of living even if you go to the discount stores.

>>6020598
Using coupons and sales, regular supermarkets are actually cheaper than either of those.
For example, I got a bunch of Maxwell House coffee recently. Eight 11oz cannisters. They were being offered at $1.99/ea and I had several 50¢ off two coupons, and since 50¢ coupons get doubled, I paid $1.49 per cannister, less than $2.17/lb.
The storebrand coffee from Aldi costs double that. Even without the sale, Aldi coffee costs 50% more than MwH when it's on offer.

Which non-brand products are good? Tell us the sureproof way of identifying a good non-brand products.

I once bought a cheap non-brand mouse (made in China) and it broke in one week. Then I buy a brand mouse for 10 times the price and use it for >5 years and I'm still using it today.

Because of this personal experience I stop trusting non-brand products.

>>6020624
>even without the sale
I meant
>even without the coupons
Fix'd.

>>6020598
I might add..Aldi's keeps their overhead costs down. Might have to wait in check-out longer but this is where I get all my produce, buckets.

>>6020628

Yeah, agreed. Produce is just as fresh as anywhere else.

And them having you bag your own stuff or bring in your own bag/those green bags, etc.

Based store.

>>6020624

Yeah, but both of those (at least in my area) accept competitor coupons, so it further lowers the cost.

The Sav-A-Lot does anyway. They advertise that fact. The Aldi in my town is way on the other side, so I rarely go there, unless I'm there on an appointment or need something from another bigger business. But last I recall they accept competitor coupons and even issue their own.

>>6020625

Check the labels. The very bottom. See where they were manufactured, like in OP pic. If it's manufactured in the same place as a major company, it says as such.

Too many blind sheep today. Not saying you, I'm saying in general.

>>6020842
>>6020625
I'd like to add that off brand manufacturing between electronics and food are two different worlds.

>>6020840
How does Aldi accept competitor's coupons when they seldom sell any national brands? Furthermore, Save-A-Lot's regular price for X is lower than other stores' regular prices for X but X seldom goes on sale there. X from a non-bargain grocer goes on sale far, far more often and there's little stopping you from stocking up and getting shit done.

>soybean oil
>corn syrup

Goddamnit USA get your shit together.

>>6020530
>different ingredients

>>6020623
You mean the OC?
>>6020620
>giving money to the richest family in the country while paying taxes that go towards Wal-Mart employees' food stamps and public housing
Why?

>>6021869
>giving money to the richest family in the country while paying taxes that go towards Wal-Mart employees' food stamps and public housing

Those wal mart employees should just pull themselves up by they're bootstraps. The walton family is what this country needs. Maverick small business owners. Some day I'll be like them too. Anyway fuck poor people.

-The GOP

>>6021874
Imagine how many problems would be fixed in this country if we created a bunch of new tax brackets in the upper range, and brought the capital gains tax up to the regular rate for those whose primary income is through returns on investments. That way, people who make 500 million dollars a year wouldn't pay a smaller percentage in taxes than someone making $750,000

>>6021836

Often times they have (granted a small) selection of national brands. It's usually towards the back corner of the store.

While most of the store is almost entirely store brand, they do carry some national brand.

Hell, the Aldi's in my location is the only place that carries El Yucateco hot sauce. They even have Kutbil-Ik.

It's likely variant upon said store. I'm not saying your store is the same as mine. Variance.

Also, because.

>>6021836
>but X seldom goes on sale

Uhh....what? Check the buyer's guide. You're literally now just talking out your ass. I get Save-A-Lot coupons in the regular mail, but the fucking Buyer's Guide has a shit ton of coupons, hell yes, for Save-A-Lot, too.

>>6021864

Oh?

>>6021861

Problem, faggot? Go eat your munchie box and chip butty with extra butter in your room, you're grounded.

>>6021869
>>giving money to the richest family in the country while paying taxes that go towards Wal-Mart employees' food stamps and public housing

Food taste good.

1. Brand Name
2. Store Brand Plus
3. Store Brand
4. Store "Value" Brand

1. Brand name self explanitory.
2. Store brand plus is the store's version of organic, whole grain, gluten free or any other topically marketed term. Often same price and quality of brand name.
3. Store brand. Same quality but lower price and of course, no glamor.
4. Store value brand is shit. Yes, all four may be made by the same company, but the value brand will often use pleb tier ingredients and deeply refined shit to make the cost- albeit sometimes just 5 cents- lower than even the store brand.

Now, thats for food. Shit like paper towels, shampoos and other non food items its anyones game. Buy the store brand.

>>6021891
I'm looking at a flier (I'm assuming "Buyer's Guide" means 'flier') for Save-A-Lot right now.
Out of the sixty items in it that I just counted, only 19 are national brands.
The prices listed for them are actually higher than sale prices elsewhere in my area at the moment. For example, they're offering twelve packs of Pepsi products for $3.29 while another grocer is selling them for $2.99. They're offering a 30.65oz cannister of Maxwell House coffee for $5.99 while another offers it for $4.99. They're offering Domino Sugar at $1.79/4lbs while it's $1.69 elsewhere. The only thing I can find cheaper is that they're selling Borden shredded cheese at $1.99 for 8oz where it's $2.19 elsewhere.

Furthermore, I know that they don't double coupons. Nor is it indicated anywhere on this flier that they take competitor's coupons. The four large-name chains' fliers all indicate that they do both double coupons and accept competitor's coupons.
Due to this fact, that $1.99 for Borden from SaL will actually cost more than elsewhere because I have a 50¢ off any two Borden products coupon which will be doubled at other stores.
($1.99 × 2) - 50¢ = $3.48 which is greater than ($2.19 × 2) - $1 = $3.38.
Yes, that 10¢ matters.

If you buy their homebrand, sure; you'll save money. But you'll save money buying /any/ chain's homebrand.

>>6020530
the generic branded one is the one that the Heinz workers put their semen in

>>6020530
>name brand products
How many branded products are a part of your grocery shopping? Most of what I buy is ingredients I'm going to cook with. For stuff like canned tomatoes, pasta and soy sauce I tend to have specific brands I prefer. For everything else I buy (meat, fish, veg, rice) brand isn't an issue. I don't have to choose between brands of onions or cabbage.

If the argument for buying store brands versus brand named products is that they're made in the same factory with the same ingredients that begs the question: How much factory made food are you buying that this would even be an issue?

>>6021911

Fliers vary by region, akin to sales, coupons, and store stock.

>>6021925

Tastes good, man.

>>6021934

I usually just buy the Banquet frozen meals for $1.

>>6021934
I agree, but what about coffee? Or tea? Or cheese? Or cured meats? Or sweets? Or sugar? Or flour? Most of the most staunch anti-factory sorts eat sugar and sugar anyway and I'll be damned if they're not buying particular brands.

We differ on a few points, though, you and I. For one, I'm particular about my rice but don't notice too much of a difference between different brands of pasta so long as they have the same ingredients (IE only two: semolina and water). With rice, I buy only Three Rings brand or, more rarely, Lucky 100.

>>6021977
>With rice, I buy only Three Rings brand or, more rarely, Lucky 100.

How come?

>>6021946
Yes, but coupon policy is the same no matter. All Albertson brand stores (Jewel-Osco, Acme etc) have the same doubling policy, something that no Save-A-Lot store has.

>>6021977
>sugar
>flour
how does brand make any difference?

>>6021983
I know and trust Three Rings for its quality. I only buy Lucky 100 more rarely because it's sold in 100lb sacks and it takes me a while to work through it. I always have rices on hand: sticky and 'regular.' Three Rings is my sticky rice and Lucky 100 is my 'regular.'
If you live in North America, Lucky 100 is the most common brand used by Chinese restaurants. Three Rings is generally around $20 for 20lbs and Three Rings is around $35 for 100lbs though it can rise to about $50. While I never buy anything but Three Rings for sticky rice, I deviate from Lucky 100 occasionally if I'm running low on rice and the price for it is at that time higher than I'm willing to pay, in which case, I'll buy a smaller sack of some other brand.

>>6021869
>the OC
Don't call it that.

>>6021989
Different sources of sugar. Also, different ash and/or protein contents of flour, even if minute. The small difference between flour quality is actually more important than you might think, though I admit that I might be overvaluing the stuff because I bake extensively. I try using different brands and never get the consistent results I would when I buy my preferred brands.

For baking and candy-making, the source of the sugar is very important. Using a different quality of sugar can lead to startingly different results though all sugars are generally fine for most purposes, when you get into more specific sorts of baking and into sugarwork, the source is very important.

>>6021986
>Yes, but coupon policy is the same no matter.

Not if it's a franchise.

>>6022001

CALIFORNIA HERE WE COME

>>6021998

Interesting. Where did your trust for Three Rings originate, though? Growing up? Did your Mom or Grandma have it in their cupboards?

100lb sack, damn, I've never even seen one, but I imagine that would be the most cost effiecent way to go. Could make tons of different dishes with that.

Do you notice a real difference between Three Rings and Lucky 100 (aside from the quantity).

I've never made sticky rice. What is that, really? I know I've probably had it at the Chinse place. Is it just another name for fried rice or something?

If you only plan to make dishes out of your rice, would it be safer to go with Lucky 100, since you'd be mostly tasting the other ingredients, along side the rice?

>>6022100

Thanks in advance, btw,

>>6022100
Sticky rice is a variety of rice, a different cultivar or species (not sure which of the two).

I didn't grow up eating Three Rings because it wasn't a brand available where I'm from but upon moving to America, it is the most similar to ones with which I was already familiar.

There is a huge difference between Three Rings and Lucky 100, namely flavour and texture. Sticky rice, as its name implies, is sticky. Its grains hold together when cooked and can't be separated into individual grains. You can't boil it like 'regular' rice, either, because it will turn into goop with consistency similar to glue. It must be steamed.
'Regular' rice is generall boiled and can be effortlessly separated into individual grains once cooked. Sticky rice cannot.
Sticky rice is also a bit sweeter in flavour v 'regular.'

I use Lucky 100 for porridge, general rice and Western/Near Eastern/African/South American applications. I just opened my eyes to the fact that I use Lucky 100 almost exclusively in one pot dishes such as pilaf and the like.

I use Three Rings when cooking food to be eaten with plain rice.

>>6022411
Do you like the classic dish of Ketchup and Rice?

>>6022700
You mean ketchup fried rice, right? I don't hate it, but it's not something I have often. Every now and again when I don't really feel like actually cooking.

Oil, 1tbsp
Egg, beaten at room temperature, 1
Onion, finely chopped, half of a very small one
Garlic, finely minced, 1 clove
Ketchup, 60ml/quarter cup
Water, 2tbsp
Rice, cooked, 250ml/1 cup measure
Scallions, chopped, 1-2
Salt and pepper, to taste

Heat up a non-stick pan until wisps of smoke just start to appear.
Off the heat then quickly add half the oil and all the egg.
Swirl around to coat the pan bottom, then scramble and remove from the pan. The egg shouldn't be in the pan longer than a few seconds.
Set the heat back to high and add the remaining oil and the onion.
Stir-fry 30 seconds or so, then add the garlic.
Stir-fry 30 seconds or so, then add the ketchup, water and rice.
Toss about a bit to allow the rice to absorb the liquid then stir-fry until it just starts to barely stick.
Off the heat and stir in the scallions, scrambled egg and S&P.
Om nom nom.

I use 'regular' rice for this.

>>6020530
>manufactured by the same company, in the same factory

this doesn't necessarily mean the products are equivalent though. Different ingredients (from different suppliers) might be used, as well as different formulations and process conditions. Any of those changes could yield a different end product.

l2manufacturing, co/ck/sucker

>>6020625
>(made in China)

I would be shocked if the mouse you're using now was not manufactured in China, Malaysia, or somewhere else in Asia.

If you try to tell me Heinz ketchup and offbrand ketchup are the same then I'm going to literally come to your house and slap the piss out of you.

>>6022990
I can't tell a difference between Heinz, Hunts and storebrands.

>>6023078

Same here. It's all salty-sweet-tomato goop to me.

>>6023083

>>6023078

I think I might be able to differentiate Heinz and Hunt and whatever else if I had some practice or gave a shit. But I can definitely pick out Whataburger ketchup from anything else.

>>6022929
I can assure you you are mostly wrong and nearly not right at all
having worked in meatpacking the op is on the money
labels are the only things that change along with weights and packaging
same meats, same processes, same quality just in different wrappings
sometimes gluten free and even organic

>>6023078
Heinz and Hunts are pretty much the same but all offbrand I have ever had all are more watery and bland. Theres a clear difference.

>>6022990

All I know is that McDonald's ketchup is somehow tastier than the rest.

That's the only one I can really tell a difference. The rest, I just buy whatever. Right now I have a bottle of Red Gold, which is pretty good.

>>6023503

OP here, thanks for the nod.

Got any cool stories about working in such a position?

>>6023509
>more watery
Yeah? I'll have to take notice.

I recently switched mayonnaise preferences to storebrand because I was reading the ingredients label. I noticed that the storebrand from one of the local stores here is slightly yellow compared to Hellman's/Best's cataract-white coloured stuff. The storebrand, which is like a dollar cheaper than Hellman's, had a better-sounding ingredients list so I gave it a try. I will never go back to Hellman's ever again.
Just thought I'd say.

>>6023597

Which others have you tried? I stick with Heinz. I first tried it at a Culver's when I asked for the little packets, and it just tasted far creamier and much more delicious.

I haven't seen that American brand in the OP pic anywhere in stores. I actually took that from my workplace. They have a bunch of ketchup packets, mustard, and mayo. Funnily enough, the ketchup packets aren't made by Heinz. I never checked out the mustard packets, because I'm not a fan of mustard.

Why do the brand name products have more protein and less carbs and fats?

>>6023509
>Heinz and Hunts are pretty much the same

Ah, this must be your palate.

>>6020628
>>6020838

I always see people praise the lower prices at Aldi, but the one in my area has almost always shitty produce. Sometimes we'll get things like bread or milk there, which are the cheapest and fine quality, but I've not once been happy with their produce. Am I an outlier? Does anyone else have experience with crappy produce at Aldi?

Not to mention I hate the 'extremely low overhead, absolutely no service' model. I like to buy food from people that I know care at least a little bit.

>>6023643
>t. ketchup connoisseur
Have any recommendations for the best brand of frozen chicken nuggets?

>>6023645

I like the cheaper prices on meat and veg at aldi and lidl. If you're cooking for yourself instead of eating ready meals, it doesn't matter. Grade A chicken is grade A chicken and it doesn't matter which retailer you buy it from.

The restaurant chicken you eat likely came from the cheapest retailer.

>>6023654
>Lidl

Ah, I should've clarified that I'm talking Aldi USA. We don't have Lidl at all in the states, and I'm guessing our Aldis may be quite a bit different.

>>6023645
It's not cheaper. See >>6020624

>>6023623
I'm pretty newish to the US, so I'm not the right person to ask. I've had weeb-brand mayonnaise, Hellman's and that storebrand I mentioned. Also Lady's Choice. Of those, weeb is my favourite and Lady's Choice in second but both of those are expensive, so I don't buy them much. For the price, that storebrand is the best bang-for-the-buck mayonnaise I've ever had. It's a near third behind LC mayo.

I keep meaning to try a jar of McCormick but I never remember to buy one when I'm running low on mayonnaise. I only ever see Heinz mayo sold as part of a three pack with mustard and ketchup and I don't need all that so I've never given that a try, either.

>>6023582
usda don't watch nearly as well as you would hope and expect
sadly =/
thanks for nothing hormel

>>6023706

Ah, well I work in a food factory that makes frozen food products such as Jalapeno poppers, Mozzarella sticks, Potato skins, etc.

I know what you might be saying. Like the rules are you're supposed to wash your hands, then wash your gloves, hair and beard nets, etc. But uhh...

I've seen some shit.

Also I can say that the dollar store brand of Jalapeno Poppers or Mozz Sticks are made from the same mixture of cheese, the same breading, etc. as the more expensive ones that you see in stores such as TGI Friday brand or Chili's Brand of Frozen foods.

>>6023698

Ah, Kewpie? I've always been meaning to try that. Heard rave reviews, but as you said, many were by some weebs who just wanted it "because".

>>6020530
>the year 2020-9+3
2020-9+3 =2020-12 = 2006... you sure about that OP

>>6023783
So much fail. It can't be contained.

In what universe is 20-12=6 correct?

>>6023768
Kewpie is actually pretty good. I don't buy it often because it's fuckspensive.

>>6023783

I'm a lab technician for a peanut butter factory, and we produce ALL brands of peanut butter. They are not all the same, but are very similar with small differences. One may have one percent salt while another has no salt. One may have molasses while another has none. One may use one specific subspecies of peanut. But all of them look and taste like fucking peanut butter.

But here's the thing. Peanut butter is required to be at least 90% peanuts. Take that into consideration.

CUISINE RECIPES MEAT GOAT savory beef rendang

>>6023783
hey, a lot of people are going to make fun of you for this post. i just want to step in and say, don't listen to them. they've all graduated from high school (and some from college even) and know how these things work.

once you get into high school, you'll learn all about algebra and even some more advanced topics. it's pretty cool stuff. but until then, don't worry about it.

another thing, this is an 18+ board so you should probably not be posting things here just yet.

>>6024495


Kill yourself same faggot.

>>6023783
>Taking PEMDAS this seriously

>>6024933
Besides taking PEMDAS seriously, he did his maths wrong anyway. 20-12!=6.

>>6024495

Thanks laddie.

You helped me keep going. I was thinking of abandoing this thread, then all of a sudden

I saw your post.

I was reinvigorated and reinjuvanated.

>>6024958

Order of operations

2020 - 9 = 2011, yes? No? It doesn't, hmm, you reatreded asshole.

-9 = 2011, and here we go
+3 = 2014 (fite me)

Thus, TC is correct. And people attempting to debunk are incorrect.

>>6023783

I'm sure you're dumb as fuck, tho.

>>6024980
But that's not what was being said. You're very bad at reading comprehension. Let's do it this way:

>>6023783's OoO was wrong.
Because, according to OoO, addition comes before subtraction, therefore, 2020-9+3 = 2020-(9+3) and not (2020-9)+3. Right?
Wrong.
Why? Because of a common misconception of what PEMDAS (which should actually be called PERMDAS, more on that later) actually means.

It's not "Parentheses /then/ Exponents /then/ Multiplication /then/ Division /then/ Addition /then/ Subtraction.

It's Parentheses /then/ Exponents /and/ Roots /then/ Multiplication /and/ Division /then/ Addition /and/ Subtraction.

When the items are part of an equally tiered pair (such as multiplication and division [one pair] or exponents and roots [another pair]), you do them in order from left to right.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Order_of_operations#The_standard_order_of_operations

The reason >>6023783 is a mouthbreathing mong is because none of the myriad ways you could put together 2020-9+3, even with a misunderstanding of PEMDAS, could ever equal 2006, so >>6023783 (presumably you) is just another example of a fucking moron trying to correct someone that doesn't need correcting and making an even greater, more illogical mistake than the imagined error he tried to correct in the first place.

Here are examples:

https://www.google.com/search?q=2020-9%2B3
https://www.google.com/search?q=2020-(9%2B3)
https://www.google.com/search?q=(2020-9)%2B3

With a misunderstanding of PEMDAS, the only one it could equal is 2008, not 2006.

So please, go back to your Kentucky ramshackle and try to get your school district to ban fractions again because they're too hard.

>>6025026

Fuck off, faggot.

>>6025686
Wow, he got you good. It's a good thing you have no shame

>>6025694

Fuck off, faggot.

>>6025749
Wow, he got you good. It's a good thing you have no shame

>>6025774
>shame

Wasn't even aware such a thing existed.

>>6020530
>being so poor that you have to pinch pennies on plebshit condiments
wow

>>6025978

>>6025978

Or having a palate.

>>6020565
In New England (specifically CT) Big Y brand ice cream is the same as Friendly's.