/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5624121

those evil crackers! how dare they enrich mexico!

>Introduced foods included olive oil, rice, onions, garlic,oregano,coriander,cinnamon,clovesand many other herbs and spices.[6]More importantly, they introduced domesticated animals such as pigs, cows, chickens, goats and sheep for meat and milk, raising the consumption of protein. Cheese became the most important dairy product.[6][13]The most important cooking technique introduced by the Spanish was frying.[6]

don't forget citrus of all types and wheat. where would you be without limes and flour tortillas?!

oh gawd imagine a world without chili and lime Frito's!

>>5624121
Pretty sure there is a cultivar of Raspberry native to Europe.

>>5624121
>tfw only eat boiled cabbage with pig bones

Well, you have successfully proved you're an ignoramus. Next!

>>5624121
Tomatoes aren't new world, though they were thought to be poisonous, being form the nightshade family.

>>5624397
Tomatoes are most definitely New World.

>>5624397
Pretty sure they're from the new world

>>5624397
>le epin trol

As a guy who studied food and warfare as one of his History degree modules i can safely say you are talking out of your ass

>>5624469

Not OP but enlighten us. I thought all those things were introduced to Europe from the Americas.

How common is it for Americans to use the setup in pic related for their bathrooms?

I went to visit some relatives in Iowa, and got to stay in their house. They lived in a pretty small city, and had to do this because of something that had to do with their city sewage treatment.

Essentially, you had to throw the used TP in a separate bin, and then also scoop the turds back up and put them in yet another separate bin.

I've experienced the TP thing in hotels in Cyprus, Spain and Greece, but the scoop thing came as a complete shock and I thought they were joking.

Could some American shed some light on this? How prevalent is it?

Tomatoes and potatoes have had huge impact on european cuisines but other than that? Coffee is pretty important as well I guess.

>>5624538
>not this shit again

Old, stale, pasta.
(which, for the uninitiated, is false, the only places I've seen that is in Mexico, and I've seen our friendly "immigrants" do it because they don't know any better. )

Australian here. Call us shitposters if you will, but by the look of it, you need us. Its 4.30 in the morning here so not so many Aussies but about a million yuro vs yanks threads.

>>5624121
>be American before the Euros came around
>tfw no wheat
>tfw no barley
>tfw no grains
>tfw no diary
>tfw no eggs
>tfw no alchohol
>tfw no sugar
>tfw no pasta
>tfw only eat barbequed corn(without salt or butter) and raspberries.
Euros literally saved the world cousine from from overexposure.
Euros literally saved the world cousine from boredom.

>>5624550
Coffee is native to East Africa

>>5624624
Pre-Columbian Americans definitely had alcohol. They used corn, honey, manioc, pineapple, agave and other native sources of sugars for the basis of fermentation.

>>5624637
And the fucking Romans had acces to peppers, so i dont see why i have to be correct when OP didnt bother to.

>>5624121
I know this is just a troll thread, but what actually was the European staple? America had yams, sweet potatoes, corn and potatoes. Asia had rice and noodles. The Middle East had Couscous.

What did Europe use as their main starch that is native there? Especially the cold northern nations?

>>5624699
Wheat, barley and oats maybe buckwheat and stuff like that as well.

>>5624538
How common is it for Europeans to use the setup in pic related for their bathrooms?

I went to visit some relatives in Birmingham, and got to stay in their house. They lived in a pretty small village, and had to do this because of something that had to do with their city sewage treatment.

Essentially, your shit would be used to feed the swine conveniently located below the outhouse. Sometimes they'd come up out of the toilet and lick your ass clean.

I've experienced the pig thing in hotels in Cyprus, Spain and Greece, but the pig's tongue up my ass came as a complete shock and I thought they were joking.

Could some Eurotrash shed some light on this? How prevalent is it?

>>5624195
pol please go

youre bleeding onto other boards

nobody here was even arguing

>>5624699
after marco polo came back, pasta started spreading, almost all grains can be boiled and eaten, not just rice. chickpeas, fava beans and peas were also rather common.

>>5624716
Come now, we havn't used americans chained under outhouses for years man, unless this is from the 1800's it's an obvious troll.

>>5624729
REKT
E_E
KEKD
T_D

>>5624397
Tomatoes are the New world's cultivated nightshade, as was potatoes.

Old world had eggplants from india, which come from nightshade as well.

>>5624699

Are we talking America as in that whole 'it's the name for both continents' bullshit? Because much of the stuff people think of as typically American isn't native to North America at all and was spread there from other parts of the New World BY Europeans.

>>5624121
>tfw no turkey
that's actually kind of good

>>5624538

I usually just toss all of it in one can. I only poop about once a week though since burgers provide such poor nutrition it basically shuts my digestive system down.

>>5624725
Pasta as we know it today (from semolina) dates back to the 800-900s in southern Europe, brought there by Mohammedans during the days of the Emirates, predating Marco Polo by quite a number of years.

Noodles are actually rather dissimilar from pasta. Unlike what is commonly believed, modern pasta has no relation to Chinese noodles but rather comes from Persia/India, where semolina (called 'rava' in both Persian and Hindi) is native. The difference is, pasta in these cultures was used not as something savoury but rather as a sweet, boiled, cooled and dressed with rose syrup. The the expanse of Islam in the 700s, the Arabs were introduced to semolina-based pasta from the Persians and brought it back westward into North Africa where it took hold as a common food in the form of couscous and tlitli, Berber pastas. Tlitli is the predecessor of all modern pasta and couscous the predecessor of tlitli.
Oh, and egg noodles were known to the Greeks, the Romans and even the filthy Teutonic barbarians in northern Europe so no, Marco Polo didn't have shit to do with pasta.

>>5624699
all sorts of bread. and turnips.
and scandinavia had big problems because they cannot grow grain.

>>5624121
you forgot
>no poutine

>>5624308
There are types native to Europe. I was looking at raspberries about a week back. Trying to find some that would grow in my region.

>>5624836
The hunger....

>>5624832
That was rather interesting anon. Thanks for the post.

>>5624699
>Especially the cold northern nations?

Cousine based on fish, forest fruits and very small amount of actually grown food, since the lands were really not good for it on the most part.

That's why they've developed into such great explorers and travelers (...and pillagers).

>>5624836

>>5624195
>flour tortillas
Gtfo. Corn master race

>>5624121
>tfw no potatoes
I thought ireland lived off potatoes from the beginning of time. Russia and Poland potato vodka? Am I an ignorant pleb?

At least you arent Japanese during the middle ages

>no meat allowed, period.

>>5624637
No they didn't, this is why the native population was so susceptible to alcoholism. Lrntoread

>>5625359
Yes, you are an ignorant pleb. Potatoes originated in the Americas and were brought to Europe by returning explorers. They were so easily cultivated and difficult to destroy by passing armies that they quickly became popular among peasants.

>>5624121
fun fact horses came from the americas and migrated to the east but the american ones died out before people so they had to be reintroduced

>>5624637

>no turkey
Who really cares?

>>5626131
>inb4 Lamarckism
>inb4 chicha

>>5624560
aussies always fail
always fail
fail

>>5626185

did the Indians eated them to death?

>>5626204

>White King
>Proudly Filipino

da fuck?!

>Puto

what?!

>>5626221
gone before them

>>5624710

Usually eaten as a porridge, (with the pig bones) as bread was a lot more work and thus wasn't very common.

>>5624121
>tfw black eyed peas are from europe

>>5626181
>they quickly became popular among peasants.
Well, not in France, where the king literally had to run a viral marketing campain.

>>5624908
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispbread

Rye and barley and other crops that grow in the harsh climate used for various breads were a staple along with stews.

From what archaeologists have gathered pretty much everyone ate meat daily as well. Rich or poor.

>>5626131
You're ignorant and apparently unable to learn.

>>5624832

i have also read that marco polo was in persia and just thought it was china.

>>5627061

This shit's pretty fascinating

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/for-40-years-this-russian-family-was-cut-off-from-all-human-contact-unaware-of-world-war-ii-7354256/

>Famine was an ever-present danger in these circumstances, and in 1961 it snowed in June. The hard frost killed everything growing in their garden, and by spring the family had been reduced to eating shoes and bark. Akulina chose to see her children fed, and that year she died of starvation. The rest of the family were saved by what they regarded as a miracle: a single grain of rye sprouted in their pea patch. The Lykovs put up a fence around the shoot and guarded it zealously night and day to keep off mice and squirrels. At harvest time, the solitary spike yielded 18 grains, and from this they painstakingly rebuilt their rye crop

>>5627186
fucking Siberia

>>5627186
>>5627193
You left out the part where vice read the article, flew out there immediately, shat all over the little homestead and gave the old lady a deadly flu virus that killed her, all for a youtube "documentary" for teenagers to lol at

>>5627196
I think you're mixing up the people who initially found them in the 80s with Vice. She's still alive.

>>5627160
That would make sense... except the fact that the court of Kublai Khan, the emperor of the Mongolian dynastic powers ruling China at the time, had records not only of Marco Polo and his father and uncle being received at court, but also of various other Venetians living within China's borders in the century following Polo's visit. Under the Khanate, these Italian foreigners, who lived mostly in Yangzhou, were called 'huihui,' which translates loosely as 'fucking Muslims,' or something like that, not knowing the difference.

Polo and his family were basically kept captive at the Khan's court as a curiosity. Kublai Khan disallowed them to leave for 20 years.
They were able to leave China westward towards Persia to accompany a mail-order-bride that Kublai had chosen for his great nephew, the Khan of Persia. Polo and his family fled from Persia westward back to Italy, arriving back to Venice in 12...95, I think? I CBA to look it up.

People claim that he wasn't in China because he didn't mention the use of chopsticks. This is silly. Here's why: he stayed with the Khans, who were culturally and ethnically Mongolian. Not only did the court not speak any Sino-related language at all and were an entirely different people from those they ruled... but...
Mongols.
Don't.
Use.
Chopsticks.
Polo didn't interact with the peasantry so would have had no notion of what the average Chinese did. He was basically a tourist for 20 years, seeing only what the Khan wanted him to see. He did, however, travel as far south as Isan, then under control of the Sukhothai dynasty of Southeast Asia, which controlled all of modern day Thailand and Laos at the time as well as parts of Cambodia, Vietnam and Myanmar/Burma. The Khan sent him down there as an envoy and to show off to emperor Ramkhahaeng how he got himself a white boy to do his bidding.

>>5624121
>India and the middle east never existed
Captcha:Eastern swasch

>>5624685
>Roma
They had access to black pepper and paprika, those are not the same thing. They are not the same as capsicums which are native to the Americas.

One thing not included in OPs comments were guourds, such as pumpkins and squash.

>>5629189
Hate to burst your obviously Aussie/Kiwi bubble, but paprika is made from red sweet peppers. You know: "capsicums."
Also, there are some old world gourds. Calabash, for example. Another commonly cited and thoroughly wrong assumption as a new world exclusive is yam. Yams have existed on both sides of the Pacific and Atlantic for thousands of years.

>>5624909
Yeah and pooty poot has given us made in Moscow cabbage rolls. Light up the fucking fireworks!

>>5629223
It's not the same, and I'm from the USA, so fuck your lame assumtions.

Please do look it up, you had no access to access to capsicums, that's bell peppers or hot peppers before you "disovered" the Americas. Get over it and admit it now or look like a moron.

>>5629223
I'm not saying you're wrong about yams but you are properly distinguishing between sweet potatoes and yams, aren't you?

>>5629240
That's exactly what I just said, you fucking moron!

>>5629189
>romans had access to paprika!!! DERP

>>5629223
>but anon: paprika is made from peppers, which are new world

>>5629240
>HERPADERP FUCK YOU PAPRIKA IS NEW WORLD!
That's what just happened here. Yes, you've certainly corrected me. No one could be so base and idiotic but an American. Forgive me for thinking you a descendant of debtors and thieves rather than a descendant of religious extremists and political infants. Apologies.

>>5629240
What is paprika made from? This Anon is clearly arguing that the Romans DID NOT have access to paprika because it's a new world cultivar

>>5629223
You're wrong, paprika isn't made from capsicums. Do you want to be proven by anon to be incorrect? It's a separate plant.

Similar names, different plant.

>>5629253
Yes. Sweet potatoes are native to the Americas. Yams, however, existed on both sides. There was, and still remains to be, a greater variety of yam sorts in the old world v the new.

>>5629263
You made the assertion, you tell me, it's not capsicums. I know the answer, I just want to see you admit to being wrong.

>>5629264
Dear me, how many shades of fucking idiot have you been painted, Anon? Paprika. Is made. From sweet. Red. Peppers. Got it?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweet_peppers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paprika

>>5629266
Agreed, just being autistic and making sure you knew that.

>>5629274
Not the same kind of peppers at all, and the ones that make paprika aren't peppers.

>>5629264
>Paprika is a spice made from ground, dried fruits of the chili pepper family of the genus Capsicum annuum.

You might want to talk to a counselor about your rage issues.

>>5629283
American education, everyone. The one thing it teaches with any success is to entirely deny facts even when presented with them.

Leave them be. It's clearly a pig newton. The mental three-year-old is right.

>>5629274
What year were they first recorded?

>>5629289
You haven't presented shit for facts, nor can you. Just stop, I'll make you look stupid.

>>5624121
Which happened so long ago to not matter.
This just reads as a bitter post over being an invaded country. I mean come on, vegetables?

>>5629297
So you have DNA evidence that the peppers used to make paprika, which were originally introduced to Spain and Portugal from the New World in the 1500s, are not related to the peppers that were used in the New World in the 1500s?

>>5629304
Leave it alone. It's a pig newton. Don't read the fucking box. You can't win an argument with a three-year-old.

>>5629304
Don't you believe scientists saying that all people came from Africa? Well if you believe one, why not the other?

This seems as a valid question to me.

>>5629312
maybe

>>5629320
>if you believe that one specific species originated in one specific place why do you believe some other specific species originated in some other specific place?
>why don't you believe all various species originated in the same specific place this one specific species originate in?

>>5629304
There is DNA evidence for it, the same that makes us all come from africa.

Muahahahaha101111

>>5629330
You've lost the plot, as you've needed to write in green text.

>>5624121
that's a militia, not a peasant
god I have to pump those fuckers out to make fire archers

>>5624121
>America
You mean south and central, not northern as you are trying to childishly imply?

I can't imagine italian cuisine without tomatoes or peppers

>>5629336
except out of africa has been disproven

>>5630607
Lots of beans. Also, salsa/ragù Genovese predates the new world. It is based on caramelised onion. After the new world, though, small quantities of tomato are now added to the soffritto at the beginning.

A lot of dishes based on pulses/beans in the south and meat/dairy in the north.

>>5630607
yeah. here i thought caesar himself was eating spaghetti. nope.

>>5630752
Which Caesar?
Although not a Caesar, Virgil ate egg pasta.

>>5630751
>salsa/ragù Genovese

Man this does not look appetizing.

>>5630759
That's a particularly bad pic of it, but even that one looks pretty delicious to me!
Maybe it's a cultural thing? I'm assuming you're not from Italy? I am. And it looks wonderful. Om nom nom.

>>5630743
No it hasn't.

So trolling aside, what cuisine can the Americlaps genuinely lay claim to? The burger? That's it right? Even the fucking apple pie was being made in Europe hundreds of years before.

you're most likely not native american

>>5631072
Southern/soulfood, Tex Mex, barbecue and cajun. The rest is mostly Americanisations of British or other European cuisines.

>>5631085
Tex Mex owes a huge amount to North Africa via the Canary Islands.

>>5631332
And French cuisine owes a tonne to German, Italian and British stuff, too. Doesn't make it any less distinct from each of the three.

>tfw no corn
one disgusting and unhealthy crop
>tfw no tomatoes
could be basically replaced with plum, as it was in Caucasus
>tfw no peppers of any sort
black pepper came from India
>tfw no potatoes
well, one point to gryffindor
>tfw no raspberries
full retarded, its european. Russian staple berry from idk
>tfw no turkey
meh, ducks and game birds are much better, chicken is cheaper
>tfw only eat boiled cabbage with pig bones
you wish.
OP sucks dick as always

>>5631371
I never said that Tex Mex is just North African food with a different name. My point stands, the cuisine of Mexico and the Anglicized version of some of that cuisine that we call Tex Mex derives a substantial part of its core ingredients, flavors and methods from North Africa via the Canary Islands.

Of course, the inclusion of maize, tomatoes, nopales, chili peppers and other New World crops does partly distinguish it as does the simple fact that behavior changes and diverges through time.

>>5631399
And my point still stands, as well: two entirely, wholly, completely different things.

>>5631399
by that logic almost all asian food isnt really asian but mexican since its so chile centric

>>5631400
>two entirely, wholly, completely different things.

Except that they partly share common origins, just like you and that cousin who took your virginity.

>>5631404
Did you even read what I wrote?

I didn't say they're the same thing. I said that one of them is substantially based in the other.

>>5631414
so no country has its own cuisine then, sure think captain dumb son of a bitch

>>5631423
Agreed, no 'country' or social group is an island. All human societies have interacted with other societies in the past and in the present.
This means that even in our daily life things like food demonstrate the historical interactions and influences of various groups.

You have now passed Social Science 101.

>>5631428
>social science
>science
pick one

>>5631428
>no country is an island
what is greenland, australia, new zealand etc

>>5631450
>using the singular form when plural is clearly needed

They are geographic locations that have been colonized, settled and heavily influenced by European nations.

>>5631460
They are still both countries and islands not to mention australia was colonized before england got there.

>>5631410
Dogs and bears share common origins, too. They are still two totally, wholly, entirely different things. Just like British and German cuisines as well as Tex Mex and Canarian cuisines. Two totally, wholly, entirely different things.

>>5631464
>not grasping that Anon used the word 'island' metaphorically
Paul Simon would like a word with you.

>>5631471
What do you mean by "wholly, entirely different things"? I think it depends on the scale at which you look at it.

Within bears or dogs each individual is a different thing, yes? But dogs constitute a species that differs from bears, agreed. And yet both are members of the order Carnivora and, in fact, are both Caniforma and therefore more closely related to each other (and also to seals and walruses) than either is to a cat. But still, as Carnivora they are all more similar than any of them is to a deer or an elephant but those things still are mammals and therefore more like in comparison to a fish or a bird than they are dissimilar.

So, similarity and difference depend on the scale you are observing. Yes, in the present Tex Mex and North African cuisine are different food traditions. And yet, in the past North African influences entered the northern Mexican food culture via immigrants from the Spanish owned Canary Islands.

Also, British and German cuisines are basically the same thing. Sausage, cabbage, potatoes and beer.

>>5631510
>blah blah blah you're right but i want to split hairs
You could have just said that, Anon. I really didn't need to pic related.

No chocolate either.

>>5624121
pretty much anything potatoes do a turnip can do too.

plus beef, pork, fish, dove, pheasent, chicken, deer. all those are available. tomatoes did exist in europe but for a time where thought to be poison, theres loads of food that was great.

>>5631962
Tomatoes are from the New World and did not exist in Europe prior to the early 1500s

>mfw we've already had this discussion

>>5631962
Not at all. Turnips are very, very sweet. You know... being oversized radishes and all that.
Most of what a potato can do, taro and eddo can do. I don't know if taro/eddo have the scurvy-fightin' properties of potato, but they both function in much the same way as potato does. They can be boiled, roasted, simmered, fried and more. While I've never seen it, I assume they can also be boiled, mashed, pressed, dried and milled to make taro flour in the same way potato is.
Beeteedubs, fuck potato flour. Expensive as fuck.

>>5624710
No, most of the "European" grains (wheat, barley, semolina, oats etc) and other domesticated plants came from the Levant (Iraq). The animals as well such as cows, goat, sheep, and poultry. So they had more than just couscous.

>>5631979
my wife makes mashed turnips, and scalloped turnips. if you didnt know it you would think they where the best scalloped/mashed potatoes in the world. so creamy and savory as well as buttery, sure plain they might be sweeter but prepared right they arent.

>>5632034
For one, Iraq is not in the Levant. Secondly, semolina isn't from either the Levant nor Iraq (It's from India/Pakistan/Afghanistan). Finally, you imply that couscous is native to either Iraq or the Levant and it's not. It's from Maghreb and only entered Levantine cuisine by way of Sephardic Jews moving to Israel from Maghreb.

Guiz, the mother fucking spice trade. Asia clearly saved us all. Salt and pepper will always reign supreme to spice and preserve our food.

>>5631979
I may be wrong but the reason potatoes prevail is their hardiness and growing potential, tarro needs more attention and fertil soil

>>5632463
The Britons were well capable of gaining salt from the North Sea well before the Romans invaded. There's no need to thank Asia for the ocean.

>>5624195
Mexico doesn't use limes signficantly, and flour tortillas are a American fabrication. Nobody eats them unless they have to.

>>5632975

So you don't like burritos? You must be real faggot

>>5632983
Burritos aren't mexican, they're tex-mex and people think of them as American.

mexitards couldn't even into cheese.

where do you think cheddar cheese came from? a place called Cheddar England! yes you dumb motherfuckers its a British cheese!

pic is real cheddar without that silly coloring. ameritards think everything needs to be dyed.

>>5633035
Nearly all native americans were lactose intolerant. In fact, Europeans are the only people who can eat dairy so freely, even half of Asians have trouble with it

ITT: people who should be reading "Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies" form Jared Diamond.

>only one person mentions the greatest discovery in the Columbian Exchange

shit thread

>>5633056
>In fact, Europeans are the only people who can eat dairy so freely

not entirely true

>>5633082
Isn't the European gene for lactose digestion completely different than the one in West Africa though?

>>5633082
Looks like white people and the Arabs in NW Africa.

>>5626231
Wrong, the Indians (excuse me, "Native Americans") killed off both the Mammoth and the American horses.

>>5627196
>>5627202
Wiki links to the Vice youtube video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj2snCZugGA

Wiki seems to indicate that she is still alive.

>tfw swedish
>tfw wild raspberries and blackberries keep shitting up my rose hip patch
>tfw moose keep fucking up my wheat fields
>tfw hares keep ruining my cabbage patch
>tfw moles and rats keep eating my rutabagas
>tfw boiled fish, boiled meat, boiled turnips, boiled rutabagas, boiled beans and porridge every day
>tfw only drink milk, rose hip soup, pine tea and beer
>tfw american crops arrive
>tfw throw them out since the haulm tastes like shit

>>5631072
Plastic food and take away.

>ITT: Semantics

10/10 OO

>>5629297
What a fucking tard this kid is lol

>>5631410
>>5631400

Most autistic argument I've seen this week

>>5633082
>not showing the natives in the americas
>global
ok

>>5631971
Tomatoes being part of the nightshade family people thought they where poisonous. Turns out it was the pewter they used for everything.
There are some great old recipes that only use PR American ingredients. Try googling the medieval cookbook its one my wife uses.

>>5633155
Don't put it on quote marks, moron. It's not to appear politically correct, but to prevent mixing them with people from India.

>>5632989
yeah if you're some indian from merida

>>5624560
I never understood the accusation that Aussies shit post a lot until I went to /sp/.

>>5633834
He put it in quotes because they're not native. They came over from a land bridge from siberia or something. They're not native.

Being born here in the USA, I'm as native as they are, they just use it as a label, a crutch to get tax money.

>>5634063
>nobody in the world except for africans are native

>>5634063
Bering Strait, and that was many thousands of years ago. The people you refer to are called paleo-indians. And by your logic, we all should have a double African citizenship.

>>5624560
We always needed the ANZACs, never let some idiot assert the USA doesn't think you folk are pretty awesome. You and your kiwi friends(?) helped during WW II a lot. We're more or less a bunch of people fucking around with each other here. Rule #1 that I learned a long time ago, never take anything on the internet personally.

&t

>>5634094
you're a stupid fucking cunt

>>5626185
Migrated to the west to siberia over that land bridge that brought the so called native Americans here. How would they migrate to the east?

>>5634063
ok where did europeans come from? arabs? indians? japanese? koreans? polynesians?

>>5634106
It's called the Bering strait, and your arguments are all asinine.

>>5633872
You can't even avoid using literal translations of mexican slang and you're insulting my intelligence?

>>5629263
Nobody is asserting that Rome didn't access to paprika, just not peppers. Black pepper yes, paprika yes, anything from the bell pepper family of capsicums no, those are native to the Americas and Rome had no knowledge of the Americas back then and there's no historical record to indicate that they did.

tl;dr Paprika and peppers and black pepper are not the same things

>>5631077
And you are, gtfo, there are no native american humans, that's a crutch to get tax dollars but they came from sibera or such over a land bridge.

Get over it honey.

>>5634106
europe and america is called the west and asia plus some of russia is called the east retard. I said they went to the east, not migrated east.

>>5634167
Again, by your flawed logic everyone is African and national identities are nothing but falsehood.

>>5633080
Colombia, wouldn't that be cocaine?

>>5634174
If you're gonna be politically correct like most morons are these days yeah, we're all from africa or so the scientists say.

>>5634174
national identities have nothing to do with this, before nations people were wandering around and making tribes and shit, going north from afreeka, going east from there crossing a land bridge that existed at that time and going to the Americas.

How you connect things that have no connection like that makes you winner of the moron of the day award. There'll be more tomorrow without a doubt.

>>5634109
from afreeka. or so the scientists say.
This is the scientific wisdom of the day, as all science does chance, but that's what they say and why you dutiflly pay your carbon credit taxes like morons.

>>5634131
sorry for not keeping it authentic 4 u

>>5634191
in addition to pic related there is also lots of research about how australians genetics show they arent from africa either

>>5634128
No, and you're just a maroon.

>>5634212
well not really and the out of africa theory isn't fully correct but it is true that if you go far back enough then everyone comes from africa

>>5634128
It's the Bering Straight now, but there used to be a land bridge between there and what we now call Alaska and Siberia. Climate change, nothing you faggots with your carbon credits can change.

The earth is over four billion years old, are you stupid enough to think that it's always looked as it does now? Are you really that fucking stupid?

>>5634171
depends on your point of view idiot or can't you use your brain to project? Oops, this is /ck.

>>5634215
I'm not saying that it's not possible, science is fluid and changes with new information, that's the point. Nothing is static like if someone comes up with an idea burn them at the stake like Catholics used to do and muslims still do.

>>5634215
You have to admit, our aussie friends are pretty messed up... hahaha! They've been fucking dingos.

>>5634215
Is that from Pravda, if you know it's from Soviet Russia then you know it must be as true as spoon benders and space aliens... yeah Soviet news.

In Soviet Russia, Spoon Lick You!

>>5634222
Are you literally retarded?
It was on the Bering Strait. The Bering Strait has existed for a loong time. The theory says it was on the Bering Strait. The location you are mentioning is the Bering Strait.

>>5634272
I know and there was a time when a land bridge existed that people and animals could cross.

Look it up twatnose.

>>5634277
IT WAS THE FUCKING BERING STRAIT, THE SEA LEVEL WAS JUST LOWER. JESUS