/ck/ - Food & Cooking

maybe you should start helping your mom put the groceries away

It comes from years of working in professional restaurants. Any pantry and refrigerator in a restaurant should be stocked in a logical and orderly manner. Mise en place french for "putting in place" this a a mantra of high cuisine surly you can not cook with out things being in their place.
As well a Kitchen should follow FIFO. "First In, First Out"
Though I doubt the second one has anything to do with the show.
Remember when you know where everything is, its much better to begin cooking, as well, to break down after you're done.

Your mystery ingredients are:
-orange sherbert
-bamboo
-pizza lunchables
-cactus needles

30 minutes, on your mark.... go.

>>5561317
Blender time.

>>5561317
>Pizza lunchables
Oh lord.

The only thing I can think of is making some sort of desert out of this and hope I'm allowed to leave the pepperoni and "pizza sauce" out.

>>5561317
I chop up the cactus needles into 1/4 inch pieces. I slice the bamboo on a mandolin into very thin slices and chop them into 1/4 inch pieces as well.

Mix everything in the sherbert and garnish with pizza lunchables. Watch all the judges get mouths full of needles and bamboo shoots.

As a cook, a very important part of getting a meal together is the concept of "mise en place"

That means having all of your shit together in a place where you can easily get to it.

The reason cooking at home takes so long is because you have to do all the prep - chopping vegetables, mincing garlic, washing + peeling herbs, etc. In a restaurant, you or your prep cook get all that piddly shit done BEFORE service starts. That way, when it's time to get a dish started, you just start building everything there on the line. No one dices garlic and shallots to order unless you're some 5-star french place with dozens of intern cooks working for free.

I suspect that it's similar on Chopped: a lot of stuff is probably pre-prepped, except for maybe a few ingredients, or whatever special ingredient they have (just to see if you can clean/prep that item properly.)

>>5561256
>watching cooking gameshows

How retarded housewife can you be?

>>5561329
No, they have to prep stuff as they get it. They're only doing four portions, it's not like they have to make fifty orders.

>>5561329
Wait did I just say this in this >>5561295

>>5561317
young bamboo shoots sliced, rolled in sugar, and then baked for as long as possible on low heat
cactus needles are boiled and then blended with kelp and kale and beets
I make a pizza lunchables sandwich with cactus sauce
and then a bowl of orange sherbert with a couple slices of bamboo

>>5561317
>Open the pizza lunchable
>throw away pepperoni, cheese and sauce
>keep chocolate candy bar
>Put chocolate on one pizza crust
>Spread orange sherbet on top of other
>Sandwich the pizza crusts for chocolate orange sherbet sandwich

>>5561317

Today for you I made a dehydrated orange sherbert with shaved bamboo, with a deconstructed cactus needed salad and pizza lunchable foam.

I grew up poor but I had a strong mamma who raised me right. While other kids were out playing basketball I was in the kitchen helping my momma. Food is my passion and ain't no one gon' stop me.

>>5561353
Oh yeah make bamboo shoot and blanced cactus needle salad with balsamic vinaigrette.

>>5561329

>doing it for free

I just don't understand why some people do this

>>5561317
>Assemble the pizza lunchable per the directions
>Scoop the orange sherbert into a bowl
>use the bamboo as a festive garnish in the sherbert bowl
>Stab your competition with the cacti needles

>>5561326
>some sort of dessert
but what if it's not the dessert round?

>>5561261
rekt

>>5563726
>baby boomer detected

If you want a job nowadays you can't just walk in the managers office and give them a firm handshake. You need as much experience you can put on a resume.

>>5563763
Yeah, but this kind of attitude results in the perpetual temp worker purgatory.

Then again, I'm a grad student and am always cultivating collaborations that result in a lot of work on my part. But if it results in another connection or publication or gold star on my resume, it is worth it.

>>5563763
You can if you go to college and don't major in some liberal arts bullshit

>>5563788
lol no

Do you have a degree? What makes you think having a degree puts you ahead of everyone?

EVERYONE has an undergrad degree these days. STEM degrees are also a dime a dozen. It isn't like a BSc sets you apart from anyone, it is the bare minimum. It is what a high school degree was 40 years ago.

>>5563819
i hate to agree with people like the poster you just quoted, but i know a person who graduated with a STEM degree, had a job within a month, got fired from that job due to drug usage, and had a new job within another month. all with 0 experience out of school, including internships. and this was a state university, not MIT.

STEM degrees are certainly a leg up in life.

>>5563822
>STEM degrees are certainly a leg up in life.
It is the bare minimum requirement for STEM jobs.

Certain degrees (e.g.: geology and engineering) have very high rates of employment, but to suggest a STEM puts you ahead of the pack is ridiculous. It simply puts you in the pool.

I suppose it depends on what kind of employment we are talking about.

>>5563822
>>5563822
i think they were talking more about unpaid experience than a degree itself.
that being said, this all applies to more competitive positions

>>5563828
>high rates of employment
>doesn't put you ahead of the pack

what are you even saying?

>>5561317
Serve orange sherbert and lunchables. Weaponize the bamboo and cactus needles and kill yourself.

>>5563835
He's saying that the degree is the price of entry, and in some fields (but definitely not all of them) there aren't too many more entrants than there are prizes.

Work in any somewhat decent restaurant for 6 months, 30 hours a week.

It will change your entire perspective on preparing food.

Then imagine what it would be like to do that 60 hours a week, at a dozen different restaurants.

>tl;dr - cooking for a living sucks ass, but makes you proficient at knowing how to cook things, and knowing how to cook them fast as fuck

>>5563846
but the point is that having that price of entry is a leg up on most of those people who think going to college is a waste of time.

it's like buying the fast pass when you go to an amusement park. sure, compared to others with the same thing it isn't an advantage, but compared to everyone else it damn sure is.

>>5561317
I yell at him for spelling it sherbert (and probably saying it that way, too), then throw the lunchables at him, chase him down, and dump the cactus needles down his waistband

>>5563853
You're not competing against those people though.

>>5563880
you don't have to be competing against them to compare your employability to theirs.

>>5563843

I have to say that the lunchables are prepared perfectly. But... I'm having a hard time tasting the cactus needles and bamboo in this dish. I don't even see cactus needles. Did anyone else get cactus needles on their plate?

>>5563788
Confirmed for not knowing shit. Engineering and research firms are notorious for using unpaid slave labor and calling it an "internship".
Oops, you aren't a good fit, so sorry we wasted a year of your life. Bring in the next intern.

>>5563885
10/10. I can hear her voice!

>>5563927
engineering is like the only field where unpaid internships are rare.

not the mention they never let interns do anything important or labor intensive.

>>5563763
if your not a socially retarted aspie, then sure you can

if your a socially retarted aspie (and dumb) then all the experience in the world aint gonna get you shit

>>5563964
>walk into some place looking for work
>"we don't have control over that, please apply online at our website"

every single time

>>5563970
why don't you try

>apply online
>call or walk in to follow up

?

>>5563884
>I have a leg up on being a professor because I am currently working on my PhD and that guy has grade 11

Sorry, this isn't how comparisons work.

>>5563878
>>I yell at him for spelling it sherbert

How the fuck else would spell or pronounce it? I just googled it and apparently some people call it it sherbet - is this a regional thing? Im in New England and never heard it called anything except sherbert.

>>5563983
Yeah that shit don't fly here.

>apply online
>go into store to talk to manager
>"im sorry, corporate takes care of that, they approve applications and we get the ones they tell us to hire"

>>5564355
the proper spelling is sorbet, because turkish is weird.

>>5564397
two different things

>>5561256
You've never worked on line have you

>>5564401
more like several similar things

>>5564355
Sherbet is how it was originally spelled (aside from sorbet, but sherbet is a creamier sorbet in my mind). The pronunciation of it as sherbert took such a strong hold that some companies started labeling it as such.

>arguing about the proper spelling and pronunciation of desserts

I love /ck/.

>>5564430
we focus on the important things in life

>>5563828
>Certain degrees (e.g.: geology and engineering) have very high rates of employment

I used to know someone with a degree in Geology who said that hardly anyone he knew with degrees in Geology had a job that had anything to do with Geology.

>>5564447
Agreed. I think geology is along the same lines as anthropology or archaeology, or even astronomy.

Better get a master's in something applicable to employment, because these undergrads are too basic to translate to work in any industry. I can see how geology is going to be a backbone to oil work, but you'll also gonna need that master's in mining or oil location or something similar.

>>5564456
I agree, I was 2-3 years into an astronomy/ physics degree plus AP classes and left to pursue a career in the food industry. Wanted to go into cosmology. Now I just read astronomy journals and play with my xt12 and am honestly glad I made the switch

>>5564447
my highschool geology teacher did a lot of cool geological shit a few decades ago (he was part of the team that mapped geomagnetic reversal across the atlantic ocean) but was really disheartened with geology as a whole when all the interesting work dried up and everything went into big oil.

>>5563885
I want her to burn in the deepest, non-frozen level of Hell.

I'm just going to leave this here: http://chopped.herokuapp.com/#/

A chef I used to work with said that they would essentially do this for the final exam at the culinary school he went to. You'd be given random ingredients, and you'd have to make a decent meal out of it.

>>5561329
No, they do all the prep within the time. I think they get a good look around the pantry before they start.

>>5564569
>I think they get a good look around the pantry before they start.
aren't they always complaining about how they can't find shit?

then again, that could always just be for dramatic effect for TV

I'm not sure who's worse

PastaFag or Letmecorrectyourpronunciation Sanchez.

>>5564571
stress/nerves
I mean it'd be completely bullshit if they didn't let them at least see the pantry before they got in there
10 minutes would be them just trying to find anything

>>5564595
The brunnette woman. She is insufferable

>>5563927

I thought engineering internships usually paid? Same with business related things.

I'm doing a year long internship right now as part of my training (by that I mean it's required) that is unpaid, as they almost exclusively are in my field. I should have just become a bartender or something.

>>5564626
It varies but many more are going with unpaid internships because they know you need experience to even be considered for a job.

It used to be "Oh internships will lead to a full time job once you graduate!"

That's still true in some cases but usually it's "Welp we had him run all boring tedious shit. Get a new kid."

>>5564571
They can't find stuff cause they are frazzled and because other contestants move stuff around.

>>5564665
I'd throw meat in the ice cream machine at the dessert round if I saw them grab any cream.

>>5564456
I did a geology minor and a major in petroleum engineering.

I also got a associates in restaurant management and culinary arts but that was just for fun.

>>5564554
At mine we had to run a restaurant in the school; every position in the restaurant and that was like out dissertation

>>5564554
But that was CIA

>>5564554
I do this at work for potential hire or moving someone from tial to full time

Also like to do something similar to Knife Fight if a couple people want to move up into a position thats opened up even just for fun. We close the first monday of every month and I get everyone together and do something fun together and this has been well received the few times ive done it. let them pick 2 people or at random and have them square off and let the rest of the cooks picka winner.

>>5564456
>Agreed. I think geology is along the same lines as anthropology or archaeology, or even astronomy.
>>5564447
>I used to know someone with a degree in Geology who said that hardly anyone he knew with degrees in Geology had a job that had anything to do with Geology.
lol nope