/ck/ - Food & Cooking

>>5474024
its good shit. duck rabbits MS is good too

I like milk stout

What does that taste like?

I don't care for the taste of beer, but would like something to drink to keep my buzz going in between shots.

I've had most of the mass produced crap, budlight weiser, millers, natural light(easiest for me cause its so watered down) sam adams cold snap many others corona seem to be the worst for me, cant stand coronas

>>5474253
>I don't care for the taste of beer, but would like something to drink to keep my buzz going in between shots.

Don't bother with craft beer lol. Just drink the cheapest weakest shit you can find in-between shots.

>>5474259
Yeah am really trying to find something I actually enjoy in between shots. Usually it's been like that, just chugging a shit beer to keep me going

It's probably pretty generic to you guys, but I found my new go-to cheap beer.

>>5474253
Creamy, milky, rich, chocolaty with some coffee. After I drank one I ran out for a small thing of vanilla ice cream to pour it over. Was not stoned and it was delicious.

>>5474024

>>5475166

Grew up drinking this, but I can't get it where I live now. Sad times.

All-time favorite

>>5475187

2nd in line

>>5475193

Only get this on special occasions

>>5475194

Pretty good robust porter

Nice balanced IPA with a high ABV, great for summer.

>>5475196

Last pic contribution. Really enjoy this stuff, but don't get it very often.

>>5475209

There's a place here in town that has 72 taps on the walls. Unfortunately, it's mostly shit beer. Mississippi is probably the worst state in the US for beer lovers.

>>5475212

Love me some ESBs

#1 cheap beer in consumer based studies

>>5475209
Craft Beer Co. Faringdon, right?
Always a good place for an interesting beer, although they can be wallet melting expensive.

>>5475221

I don't normally get these. Genessee Cream Ale is my go to cheap beer.

This is a very unique stout, I recommend it highly.

>>5475235

How was it unique? I can't get this here, but I'll keep my eye open for it when I travel.

>>5475240
Despite the color and texture it's a surprisingly light stout with tones of smokey mint and chocolate. The aroma when you pour it is astounding. Low carbonation, mild flavor, smooth texture on the end.

>>5475260

Mint sounds like an interesting pairing with the dark, roasted flavors of a stout. I can definitely see it being an enjoyable brew. Like I said, I'll have to keep my eyes open when I travel to see if I can try it.

>>5475225
don't they give free samples anymore?

>>5474265
just get a yella belly.

the most generic 'beer' tasting beer out there.

>>5474070
too sweet to me.

Millers, Milwaukee's Best Ice

>>5475209
I never understand how they can keep 15+ barrels fresh or acceptable at all

>>5475848
That shit smells so good, just doesn't taste as good

>>5475187

the beer that got me into craft beer, always a classic

>>5475194

fuck yeah, official beer of /sp/. GOAT! I've got a small collection of those little goats.

>>5475947

good point, but really depends on the amount of traffic through the place.

>>5475968

I collect the goats as well. They make nice Christmas decorations for the tree!

This one today. Not bad, not bad at all.

Currently drinking my last one.

>>5476137
Is that any good? I kept seeing it but last time I had a smoked beer it didn't sit well so I've avoided it. I saw it just chilled just earlier today when I bought the Lagunitas.

>>5475221
I go for Hurricane HG or Natty Daddy as my alkie beers

>>5476153
It's good but if you don't like smoke it's probably not the right beer. Try the oaked arrogant bastard or the sublimely self righteous black ipa instead they taste less like a campfire but still have slight smokiness

I made myself a shandy.

>>5476201
>hoegaarden
mah nigga

good shandy?

my favorite beer is the beer i make, homebrew or die bitches

>>5476188
IF you are going to suggest black ipas, you have to get Deschutes Hop in the Dark. It is absolutely fantastic.

One of the best.

>>5476785
its okay. i liked it. I can't say i didn't enjoy it. Very high carbonation, it was very refreshing to have a strong ale that still has strong carb.

It was definitely tasty, and i could taste God's jizz left over in their trappist barrels or whatever.

BBBBBUUT. At $15 bucks a bottle, i just... whats the point? It's not like a thousand times better then Stone IPA.

Id rather get a case of lagunitas then one chimay blue. I haven't tried the other varieties.

>>5475215
esb is extra special bitter, unless that's the same as that extra special brown

If you want something strange, I highly recommend this

I think this is the best beer I have ever tasted

>>5476828
>15 bucks a bottle

wow what ? It's 6~7€ for a 75cl bottle here

>drinking anything else than lager
disgusting

>>5477093

england pls go

>>5477091
Yeah, that's a nice beer but I tried pic related and it was just so smooth.

I think I found my beer with this one.

>>5477133

Damn, wash that glass before you pour in beer!

>>5477135
Those are bubbles anon

>>5477135
I got the image off of Google. But I don't see what's so dirty about the glass.

>>5477133
yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes yes

>>5477140
>>5477151

You only have that many bubbles sticking to the side when the glass was dusty.

Paulaner Wefe Heissbier, all the way ! 6/6 (Yeah, i grade my beers in a scale of 6)

>>5476188

>oaked arrogant bastard

this X100000

one of the best offerings by Stone imo

>>5476949

You're entirely correct. Misread the bottle label. I don't believe I've ever had an extra special brown, but my comment still stands. Love me some ESBs.

>>5477222
You spelt it in a way that contradicts your image

>>5477313
Argh, I switched the first letters, sorry.
>Hefe-Weissbier

>>5477222
>>5477316

Heißbier mean "hot beer", btw.

>>5477318
Mmhh Fuller's 1845 is nice but hard to find.

>>5477322
Haha, I didn't know that. I don't speak a word of German...

>>5477337
Do you know what kindergarten is? Then you speak a word of German.

>>5477133
Definitely one of the best Leffe varieties.
This one's the king for me, though.

>>5475166
cheap, good, and tastes 10 times better on draft

>>5477222
>>5477133
tastes like nothing at all

>>5477091
>>5476957
>>5476785
>>5475187
>>5475194
yes

This along with the Brown Ale is very good. If you don't live in Maine you are out of luck unless you can get someone to get a hold of it.

>>5476785
>big bottle
le eyebrow raised face .jpg

>>5475209

Been there last year, pretty neat !
No belgium master race though !

I'm not gonna post it here, none of you have heard of it anyway

2.5/10

Will probably buy again.

>>5477554
>tastes like nothing

How's it like not being able to taste?

>>5475947
It's super busy every day.

>>5480260
Most of the stuff is local (London & UK), they have a good Belgian selection bottled though including Cantillon etc.

>>5478849

how is living in Maine? I heard it's cheap and full of white people

kinda intrigues me

>>5480284
>2hipster4me
your flannel shirts make them for you in a microbrewery your parents bought.
amiright?

baseline/10

best domestic macro bar none, and for $16 a 30-rack the price is right

had no beer, or so I thought, until I found a can of one of these in my fridge, forgot I had bought it awhile back

sippin on it right now, and even though poured from a can, it is very, very good. Highly recommended.

I just returned from a trip to Bruges and this is what i brought home to Germany. So far my favorites are Leffe Blonde and the Straffe Hendrik. I'm not a beer epert though, as i actually enjoy Stella.
Do you think i got anything good? Anything some of you like?

this stuff is good for a stomach ache

>implying your secret love isn't this

>>5483150
Missed out on some good stuff: La Chouffe, St. Bernadus, Cantillon.

Pretty good haul, though Stella is dire and I would have thought you could get Leffe Blonde where you are in Germany (it's widely available in the UK and even more so in France).

>5483150
Lindemans, Verboden Vrucht, Straffe Hendrik, Brugse Zot and Duvel are quite good.
Rochefort is very good, Chimay is acceptable.
Leffe isn't a very good beer, but always seems to be popular.
Stella Artois is sewer water with added chemicals to get rid of the piss flavour.

Love this stuff.

Lots of other good beers in this thread though.

Best beer I've had so far. Haven't gotten to try a lot yet though.

Masterrace reporting in

>>5475848
Such crap.

An acquaintance of mine swears this is his favourite beer. His favourite whisky is bushmills.

I think that says enough.

>>5484990
,mmmmmm

i feel u bro
that or maybe rolling rock or corona

>>5484990
PBR tastes like carbonated water. Not beer.

>>5485004
Exactly.

>>5484969
>>5484977

good, i can't wait to try some of this stuff. also i don't think stella is the disgusting piss everyone says it is, especially when you consider that it seems to be the only beer you can really afford in belgium. what's up with those beer prices over there anyway? we left bruges for some smaller towns and checked some supermarkets like carrefour, but they they had hardly any good belgian beer for less then 2€ per bottle (0,33l!)

on topic, pic related is one of my favorite german beers right now. i love me some smoked beer in the summer, especially for a barbecue.

>>5485030
Man, their Urbock is insanely delicious.

>>5477091
>wow what ? It's 6~7€ for a 75cl bottle here
Top lel feels good to live in belgium with 3.5€ for a 75cl chimay bottle.

>>5485030
>carrefour
Serves your ight for going to a french supermarket.
Should have gone to colruyt they have the lowest prices but not an awesome selection. Delhaize is usually better.

>>5484980

midwest brofist

Great Lakes may just be my favorite brewery. Everything they do is top-notch

>>5485139
it is! i'm glad they are in my hometown, so i have a steady and cheap supply of their smoked ambrosia.

>>5485180
i wouldn't have gone there if i had known it was french. why is france so shit? we accidentally crossed the border when we were looking for the beach and the first french village we came to was a rundown gipsy infested shithole. i'm glad we made it back to belgium alive.

>>5485030
Stella has been tampered with. Avoid it.

The Carrefours outside Bruges are tiny (with the exception of the one in St-Kruis, 1 km out of town). Bruges itself is a horrendous tourist trap. Beer prices at the Bruges Colruyt store however:
Abbey beer: http://www.collectandgo.be/cogo/nl/branch/391/
Trappist: http://www.collectandgo.be/cogo/nl/branch/392/
Geuze: http://www.collectandgo.be/cogo/nl/branch/393/
Regional beer: http://www.collectandgo.be/cogo/nl/branch/394/

Slightly more expensive and more difficult to find are the specialized beer shops, however you have the advantage of larger choice. This is where I get my beer: http://www.dehopduvel.be/engels/bieren.html (in the centre of Ghent). Some beers on the list like Oerbier, Orval and La Trappe 4 should be marked **

I wonder when this IPA trend will stop. In the mean team I will continue to enjoy my barley wines

Let me teach you a thing or two about taste

>>5485438
That is literally the cheapest I will go.

>>5485476
unfortunately we don't have such a rich variety of beers here in South Africa as the Yuropeans have but 'tis good

>>5485482

Don't you have a lot of sorghum beer in SA?

>>5485482
Exactly - amstel, black label and hansa all have fucking maize in them now.

I stick to Windhoek at the moment because money, but I'd rather be drinking Grolsch, Stella or Killkenny.

I'm in the EC by the way.

>>5485492
Pic related. I'm not drinking beer out of a plastic bottle.

>>5485497

Yeah, that's not very enticing.

Can you get banana beer where you live?

>>5485492
Well, yes and no. The nigs love that stuff but it's not quite the beer you're probably thinking of

Had a pint of this about a week ago. I liked it enough to get a 6 pack.

Would recommend.

>>5485495
Limpo-po represent

Yeah, used to love Amstel. A soweto pepsi when I'm really short on cash though

>>5485500
Nah, never had banana beer.

This is the sort of stuff most of the population drinks. Notice the bottle cap - it has a hole through which it continues flowing as it brews on the shop shelf. Never tasted it.

is hard cider for girls?

also is there any beer that tastes like coffee? My friend let me try some local brew and it tasted just like it but I cant buy any where I am.

>>5485281
You have no idea how jealous I am of you.

I literally wait all year for it to pop up in our local liquor stores. I was somewhat disappointed how they had replaced it with the Eiche Dobbelbock last Christmas, but that particular brew turned out to be pretty damn legit, as well. I'd choose a pint of that instead of their Märzen any day.

Finally I was looking for a beer thread

Is it true that the Japanese have "different beers"?

I'm curious if there is anything unique. I've tried Saporo and lucky buddha, but I've got a chink market a stones throw away thinking about picking up some unique alcohols if they have anything that tastes particularly different,

>>5485634
Aw man that sucks. Are you from the states?
I can literally go around the corner and buy Aecht Schlenkerla for 0,60€ a bottle.
Then again it's near impossible to get good american beer over here since everybody drinks the local stuff.

>>5485521
>also is there any beer that tastes like coffee

Stouts, nigga. Most taste like either coffee or chocolate.

>>5485521
a lot of people in america will make fun of you for drinking it because its marketed toward women. it appears this is changing lately with the hardcore ginger guy advertising REDDS APPLE ALE FOR MENS.

its best not to give a shit though. drink what you like.

also there are a bunch of coffee infused beers, some of my favorites are Lagunitas Cappuccino Stout and Kona Coffee Porter. thank god they didn't get regulated away like 4loko for having caffeine + alcohol.

>>5485664
there isn't much worth talking about among japanese beers. sake on the other hand..

>>5485521
Its for people that don't need to try to fit in by choking down the darkest hoppiest smokiest beer possible, while talking about how refined and complex it is

pic related, GOAT cidar

>>5484990
In that one Southpark episode, people who drink pabst blue ribbon are presented as white trash. Is this true or just made up?

>>5485521
If you are refuse to drink something because someone will make fun of you for it then you are already a little girly man. Just drink what you enjoy.

>>5485726
At least in new england PBR is more like all-ages basement show full of art students than it is white trash. White trash beer around here is like natural ice or icehouse or "fill-in-the-blank light"

Had one of these tall refreshing motherfuckers today on draft. Perfect for summer, though not really a session beer. Two and done on this one, though weisses often give me heartburn so maybe I'm an outlier.

>>5485710
I've only ever had Woodchuck cider. Would I like your pic related?

>>5474259
If you're a faggot bitch you'll probably like blue moon. I see a bunch of women/fags drinking blue moon.

>>5486866
>tfw drinking Blue Moon right now

sh-shit

>>5483081
10/10

>>5485710
that looks promising.
you also neglected to mention people who just straight up can't drink beer. I can drink it just fine but a friend can't so he's always trying new ciders.
woodchuck Barrel Reserve is one of the best ciders i've ever had

>>5483150
the rochefort is 10/10 on of my top 3 beers
such a pain in the ass to get in the US, or at least in MA
and 5 dollars a 12 oz bottle is rough

>>5485686
Worse. Finland. A bottle of their Märzen is 3,49 a bottle (0,5 litre).

>>5488878
Which one?

>>5475187
this shit is too thick for me
looks adn tastes like used car oil

No one has bothered posting any of the Samuel Smith beers? Especially the Imperial Stout? My all-time favorite. I love the Rasputin Stout too. Did not care for leffe at all, unlike most of the peeps in this thread. Something that hasn't been talked about, cider beers. Out of 5, there is only one I'd buy again and again, and it's Country Carriage Cider. God damn that stuffs good on a hot day. I also love red lagers like Killians. I hate Sam Adams but their red lager is pretty good. Fat tire is very drinkable as well.

>>5488934
Cont. Then again, there are a number of really tasty Finnish brews out there. Two that come to mind right off the bat are Sinebrykoff Porter (baltic porter) and Beerhunters Mufloni CCCCC IPA, which is an American style IPA. Well balanced and surprisingly sweet. There's also Laitilan Kievari Imperiaali, which is a pretty solid brew if you don't mind the alcohol. There's at least one imperial stout I've heard of that is apparently on a whole different level of deliciousness, but I've never had it.

>>5488955
I liked Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout quite a bit.

>>5488940
Ever heard of Harviestoun's Old Engine Oil and their trio of Ola Dubh? I've had Ola Dubh 16. One of the best beers I've ever had.

inb4 Fedora

>>5488968
Try the Imperial Stout at room temp. Best smoothest beer you'll ever have.

>>5488985
I will if I see it on a shelf. I doubt the latter bit, though.

Finally a beer thread. Just startin to get into beer but in the past two months I have tried many good beers. Commencing dump of some of my favs. PIC 1

>>5489009
PIC 2

>>5485726
It used to be associated with punk rockers, skinheads, and metal dudes, now it's "hipster" beer.

>>5489024
PIC 3

>>5488939
trappist rochefort
shit is so cash

>>5489029
PIC 4

>>5489035
PIC 5

>>5489025
Pabst is a hipster beer now? huh. only ever see rednecks drink it to be honest. pabst, keystone light, and busch are as trailer trash as you can get imo. I don't mind pabst honestly. Oh, Mickey's is another thing trashy people drink, but I love mickey's, and I can't ever find it.

>>5489038
PIC 6

>>5474024
Agreed, good and also pretty cheap in my area. I'm reluctant to try any other bottled stout since I know this one is so reliable.

>>5489044
interesting. 'aged in pinot noir barrels'

>>5489047
you would find that interesting
fag

>>5489044
LAST PIC

probably won't be buying more rare expensive beers for a while. They really break your wallet. Btw aging that bitches brew.

>>5489052
always wanted to try the bitches brew. whats it like?

>>5489065
Idk have never tried it. Probably won't open it for a couple more years. Really regret not buying two at the time. Can't find them anywhere now and I really want to taste it.

This thread made me really happy. I'm an intern brewer at a brewery in the Southeast and I never see beer threads.

Currently drinking Terrapin Liquid Bliss Chocolate peanut porter. Cheers.

>>5476137
The Chipotle Pepper version is great if you can still find it. Went out 3 weeks ago,

>>5486819
Great with wings too.

>>5489009
>>5489024
>>5489029
>>5489035
>>5489038
>>5489044
>>5489052

>tfw literally over $1300 in beer in two months

>>5489547
>never seen a beer thread
confirmed liar
>drinking Reese's beer
confirmed 12 year old

>>5489949
>implying that's a lot of money

>>5489966
>implying I don't live in California, meaning a town that's actually important (aka California)
>implying I don't pay 3x times the rent for a one bedroom than your parents do for your hick Georgia house.

>>5489977
>implying I pay rent
>implying I don't own three homes without mortgage payments
>implying California is important in the grand scheme of the United States
lolol

>>5489982
>self deluding yourself into thinking this is true.
>California not important.

>>5490011
Without Hollywood, California has nothing of value. Your wine is a joke and danker weed can be found elsewhere.

>>5488955
I really enjoyed the Taddy Porter. It tasted like rum raisin bread pudding.

>>5489040
PBR is a hipster and redneck/white trash. It just depends on where you're at.

>>5489030
Trappistes Rochefort 6, 8 or 10?

>>5485438
>>5485495
lel sounds fucking awful.

Love this stuff.

I've heard the double chocolate is even better but it's hard to find and like $15 for a 22oz.

Probably my favorite beer right now. But honestly, I'm terrible at remembering what beers are good and not.

On an related note, a Brewdog bar recently opened in my town. I went there not expecting much besides branding and talk about how punk they were, but they had some damn good beers. And strong, holy shit. The most interesting was probably their Abstrakt beer, it smelled like bananas and was sweet as fuark.

>>5474024
I tried it once. Quite nice.

My personal favorites are anything by New Belgium, some Coffee Porter I can't seem to find anymore, Shiner Bock, and Saint Arnold's ale

>A beer thread
>no Austrian beer

Is this casual wednesday? Let me introduce you to the king of beers.

>>5492059

Forgot the pic of the king of beers.

Tried this yesterday, was god like.

i just cant get enough of this shit
11/10

>>5491790

try the chocolate oak aged Yeti if you haven't yet, and can get your hands on it

it is fucking amazing, one of my hands down favorite stouts. So good.

>>5475166
Try the porter if you can find it. Ten times better.

>>5492107

I love rye beers, especially when a bit hopped up

>>5476220

Good shandy indeed.

Homemade lemonade would have been better, however.

>>5492244
My beer fridge fucked up and got super cold, freezing a handful of beers and popping the tops leaving them useless, but anything above 6.5% was fine. a couple froze a bit but not enough to pop the top off. Your pic related was one of the few casualties, I really want to know how a beer over 10% froze enough to pop the top. Makes me think the ABV is exaggerated or the beer is ridiculously carbonated which wasn't the case when I have previously tasted it.

>>5492326

hm.

Well, I can tell you that I drank a bottle, and it felt much more than 6.5%. Slow sipper for sure.

but RIP frozen beers, my condolences

>>5492335
It's all good, 3 of the 4 that were killed are pretty easy to obtain year round...the yeti though was a bummer. There's a gift store near my work that has a pretty large beer room with good stuff but the owners don't advertise at all so almost no one knows it exists. I was there the week before the incident and they had 5 or 6 left so might buy another one but I hate to spend another $12 or $15. Might just say fuck it and do it.

If any of you swing by Chicago I'd highly recommend picking up some Pipeworks. They have a lot of variety in their beers and consistently deliver high quality on everything they make.
list of all the beers they make: http://pdubs.net/beers/

Pic related: one of my favorites

I've got a question about beers in bottles, how do I drink them correctly?

I know that's a pretty retarded question, but it seems like whenever I drink them, atleast once, I will drink it and then all the sudden it just fucking explodes and bubbles up really bad sometimes spilling from the inside-out or leaving me with suds and not actual drink.

I can drink beer out of cans and glasses just fine, and I usually drink hard liquors/wine more than beer, but when I drink out of a bottle, I'm retarded.

>>5492506
If you're having trouble with drinking from bottles (consider a neurological evaluation) just pour it into a glass

>>5492506
What the actual fuck? I think you must be retarded.

>>5492506
Err... Try not to jerk the bottle out of your mouth. Firstly you're drinking over-carbonated beer fo sho. Try to glide the beer into your mouth rather than suck it in. Although I suppose the reflex is hard

Is kombucha a beer?

Is kombucha a beer?

Just bought a 6 pack of these without any knowledge or experience with it

what should I expect

>>5492712
If you're American I'm assuming this is your first experience with anything that's not pale lager. So expect a thicker, more bitter and heavier feel. Also expect a slight burnt aftertaste.

Guinness isn't as bad as some people make it out to be but it's pretty average. If you like it try Murphy's Irish Stout.

Besides this also check out some wheat beers. I feel if you're looking to start drinking beer for anything other than the buzz wheat beers are the way to start.

After that you can have a better idea of your taste.

>>5492740
Its true im not really a big beer drinker, Ive recently decided to start acquiring a taste for it

Pale lager is like a corona im assuming?

i apologize for my ignorance but as i said im trying to learn

>>5492712
So I've been buying a pint of Guinness Extra Stout on and off for the past few weeks. Not bad at all. A nice step up from the heinies and buds I would usually drink.

But tonight I break my 2 week beer fast with a pint of Bear Republic's Racer 5.

>>5492760
holy shit its already blown my mind.

>>5492712
While there's nothing actually awful about this beer, it is certainly no better than "fair." It is watery, bland in flavor, inconsistent in body/head ratio, and it lacks richness or complexity of any kind. And, like anything else made by Guinness, it is overpriced and under-balanced.

Guinness can be enjoyable as a table beer when eating bangers and mash or shepherd's pie... that's the only way I can approve of it being drunk on its own. Or you can always use it as a mixer for Irish car bombs or cider-stouts. Those are my suggestions for what you do with your sixer.

>>5492769
so its not a very good sipping beer to be enjoyed on its own?

>>5492752
Pale lager is everything that you get for cheap. Buds, Miller, Corona, Coors etc. Everything what''s not malt liquor and chep you can bet it's pale lager. Or lager if you wish.

If you get it Yuengling is a good baseline beer. It's the first marginally decent pale lager out there.

If you want a taste familiar to the Buds and coronas you could try Pilsner.

Just don't try IPAs and high abv stouts from the off and almost anything else is fine.

The good thing about beer is that the difference between the shit and good stuff is only 5 bucks so you can always try and discard.

>>5492772
The extra stout might be a better bet. but honestly, since you're new to it, it'll be a fine beer to sip. certainly a notch higher than what you're used to.

>>5492772
No. There are plenty of better beers and some better stouts out there that can be bought with the same amount of cash you'd spend on a six-pack of Guinness draught.

Also, I have to disagree with this >>5492740
suggestion that you try Murphy's... I don't think there's a worse stout on the market.

>>5492780
Murphy's was just a suggestion since it's easily available and quite different to Guinness. If you like both you're probably a stout person.

I feel you have to rise through the ranks of beer gradually. I've had some great beer during my college drinking days that I didn't appreciate at all.

I think drinking an imperial stout while starting out is a waste of time.

I'd go from mass manufactured to imported mass manufactured to Sam Adams/Sierra Nevada to craft and good European beer.

>>5492712
The further you are from Ireland the worse it gets. If you buy it in the American midwest expect a watery nearly tasteless experience.

>>5492803
You do get the import version with the nitrogen ball here though.

>>5492790
I appreciate where you're coming from. Working in bars, I've met a lot of bartenders/servers/bouncers/etc who have your frame of mind when they try introducing beer to a younger relative or significant other who has no experience--and a lot of them will suggest the same kind of progression as you have here.

My opinion (from experience) has shown me that if an inexperienced beer drinker is led to a complex specialty beer or a double IPA, then what you've said will typically happen. They'll be overwhelmed and uninterested. I've therefore tried to find good beers that are decently priced and do their specific job well without being "too much." And I should have made such suggestions in the first place.

If this guy >>5492772 is still reading this thread, I hope you try both methods. Give Murphy's a shot, and check out the other Guinness variants. You can always walk into a bar and ask if they can introduce you to some good beers. There's nothing wrong with saying you're inexperienced or trying to expand your palette, and if you're in a decent establishment they'll offer you a tasting of some different drafts before taking you to the beer cooler. Even if they don't have everything on draft, most places will assemble a mix-and-match sixer for a fair price.

If you find that you like stouts, I suggest you try Barney Flatts, Founders Breakfast Stout, Left Hand Milk Stout, or (as this dude >>5492790 suggested) Sierra Nevada Stout and Samuel Smith Oatmeal Stout/Organic Chocolate Stout. If you like the general flavor of Guinness/Murphy's, the beers listed above will give you a varied, delicious range of flavors for you to choose from and work off of.

>>5492712

Americans seem to hate it. I'm not American, I've never had it in America, but they say the further from Ireland it gets the worse it tastes. America is quite far from Ireland so do the math.

It's one of the first stouts ever made but it's no longer necessarily the best ever made (no surprise because the competition is so strong). It's also too expensive for what you get. I still like it though because it has a very unique taste. When other stout taste like stout Guinness taste like Guinness. The stronger versions of it is probably tastier and better value.

>>5492478

Chibro here, Not really a fan of their cartoony-style bottle art, but the beer itself is pretty damn tasty.

>>5492760
>>5492762

Bear Republic makes great stuff. Try Hop Rod Rye if you haven't

>>5475193

Why is is do difficult to get Bells in local bars and clubs here in Michigan?

Bells needs to kick their salesmen in the ass, because it's easier to get
out-of-state beer then stuff made right here.

>>5492909
>Americans seem to hate it.
Americans with decent taste seem to hate it, but it's incredibly popular as babby's first stout and/or plebs' only stout. There's a reason you can still find it in every grocery store.

>>5493443

IL here, I can confirm that it's easy as piss to get Bell's here. Pretty much every bar near me has at least 1 Bell's offering on tap, and every liquor store, and even common grocery stores like Jewel, carry Bell's.

Strange to hear it's not so common in MI

>>5493459

>babby's first stout and/or plebs' only stout

this

it was mine for sure, I had Guinness as my first stout almost 10 years before I ever tried another (and I think the next stout I ever had was Old Rasputin, quite a step up)

Seen some good ones but none better then these..

>>5493489

wish I could get my hands on some Heady Topper, seems local to the east coast from what I understand

Yeah the topper is a pain to get outside of vt and sometimes In Vt. Gotta know the spots. That being said there is soooo many other great brews, I often just skip the lines and drink something else.. and it beer week here in Philadelphia so I should get my ass up and go

One of my 10/10s, but I'm biased. It always reminds me of home

>>5493487
same here, I'm not into stouts but decided to try some anyways. It tastes like dark chocolate and cigarette ashes in watered down milk. Drinkable but quite gross. Being easy drinking is all it has going for it.

>>5477133

I bought a bottle of Leffe brune and blonde today. Going to try them tonight.

>>5485436

>ipa
>double ipa
>extra pale ale
>india pale lager
>session ipa
>Belgian ipa

>>5492712
Did you actually get pic related or the canned version?

If you got the bottles, sorry bro. Make a stew.

In the can it's alright as a beginner stout, like others said it's not super strong as far as stouts go so it's a good way to figure out if you like the style before diving in fully but for the price it's not worth it. The foreign extra stout (imported) is the best variant you can get in my opinion, but still not really worth it as a go-to beer.

Anyone else tried these? I was pleased.

>>5495380
Rochefort/10

>>5495380
Got fucking wasted with my dad because he took me to a fancy ale pub and kept ordering rounds of the Rochefort 10 (even though they were almost £10 a bottle)

Worth it despite the hangover of death. I should have known that high strength Belgian beers are not to be trifled with.

>>5495380
Definitely top-tier but I can't afford it.

Sometimes I get a bottle of 10 to complement whatever swill I'm drinking.

>>5495567
>>5495571
Yeah, definitely expensive but worth it. It's the beer that got me into Belgian ales.

I can't find this shit anymore. Got one left in the fridge, saving it for I don't know when yet.

>>5495573
Absolutely. You can't go wrong with a beer that strong that still manages to taste good.

>>5495585
First time I had it, a friend gave it to me. I didn't know how strong it was until I looked at the bottle a couple in. I was drunk that night.

>>5474253
>>5474265

Then have a cocktail or a highball. Doesn't have to be beer.

>>5475947
The bar I work at has 12 kegs and we alternate cleaning the tavern heads and lines twice a week. We normally go through kegs pretty quickly (twice a day for the most popular ones, every week or so for the least popular ones). As long as they're kept cold they can last longer than a month no problem.

>>5477135
>>5477160
>>5477544
>>5493613

>/ck/ bitches about major beer brands all day
>doesn't realize Leffe is made by the biggest brewer in the world

>>5495632
So? Just because most macrobrews are shit doesn't mean all of them are.

>>5495579
It's a fall seasonal, anon

>>5495639
I know, it makes me sad.

Drinking a couple of these right now. Not bad at all.

>>5493497
If you want something reasonably similar you might have an easier time tracking down Ballast Point Sculpin. It's not quite as good, but they've approached the style well

Is non-pleb lager even a thing? I can't sit and drink 12 dark beers.

>>5495945

There are plenty of non-pleb lagers

Dortmunder Gold is probably my favorite

im new to beer, rly only ever drank macrobrews before
where can i learn more about beer?
the different types and associated flavor profiles
and how it's brewed and stuff
would love to learn more about it

>>5495939

Oh, I've had Sclupin plenty of times. I'm pretty familiar with IPA/DIPA's. Heard Topper was one of the best, so naturally I'd love to try it.

Sculpin is really good as a session IPA because of how easy it is to drink, but sometimes I feel it's a bit too thin for my taste. Kinda get a watered down feel out of it.

>>5495964

beeradvocate or ratebeer are good places to start, also pic related.

As for trying beers, try and find a place where you can make custom 6-packs. This is a great way to experience a lot of different beers, and without spending a whole lot

>>5495972
thanks friend, i appreciate it
gonna be living on the gold coast (queensland) for at least another few months, anyone know any good places to pick up craft/microbrew beer?

>>5495968
Alchemist said they would be opening a new store/tasting room soon for Heady, so there's hope. The current model of playing russian roulette with their stockists sucks ass.

>>5489038
myyyy nigga

got yourself a mikkeller beer

I live/work as a bartender in SF and that spot is a personal favorite

what should I bring to my buddies bachelor party this weekend? I live in grand rapids so I have access to the best breweries in America. partial to stouts

Love this shit so much, It's like adult chocolate milk. I always keep some around for when I want something sweet.

>>5496290

So I bought a bottle of this, and I gotta say, it's pretty shit

Completely mediocre. Tasted like a Budweiser with some slight dark fruit. Got even worse as it warmed.

2/10 would not drink again

for shame

>>5496290
I prefer pic related

>>5492064
Why is it that Stiegl are the only ones who can do a good zwickl? Their zwickl is soooo good but literally all other ones just taste like stale pils that's been left out opened in the sun for too long.

>>5492842
>>5492790
Idk, man. My first good beer was Trappistes Rochefort 10. Sure, it was different the second time I tried it, which was after years of tasting different beers, but I don't think it was a waste. It was a first taste of excellence.

I wouldn't give a pint of Amager Bryghus's Hr. Fredriksen to anyone who wasn't really into intense flavours, but a complex beer can be a reason to start sifting through what's available. I mean, imagine drinking the kind of pale lager they sell in 24-can packs and the occasional mass produced dark lager or Irish stout, and then finding something from a completely different world.

To say that an excellent beer is wasted on an immature palate sounds a tad elitistic to me.

>>5496917
I dig some youngs as well but the chocolate flavor is way more pronounced in the smiths to me.

>>5493489
I wish my local store still carried Orval... I can literally taste it, looking at your image.

>>5493474
>Strange to hear it's not so common in MI

One can easily get Bell's at grocery and party stores hereabouts, it's just nowhere to be found in bars and clubs, which is odd, they're a Michigan brewer.

>>5492478
>>5493395

I still need to drink some more Pipeworks. I've been happy with what I've tried so far. I just got back from the store with some Off Color. I've been drinking craft beer for some time and, to my shame, have never had a Gose. I plan to change that.

I also picked up some Green Flash Road Warrior and Lagunitas Hop Stoopid and Night Time since they were all nice and fresh.

>>5475187
I loved it, it was like swallowing Rasputin's viscous semen. But seriously it's amazing.

>>5496917
I find that too thin for my taste