/ck/ - Food & Cooking

well done steak w/ ketchup

>>5397018
Quinky sauce

>>5397018
www.happivore.com - Easy but delicious recipes, with videos you can follow if you're new to cooking

www.theppk.com - One of the classic vegan sites, lots to choose from.

www.ohsheglows.com - Fancier and more creative. If your girl is a foodie try this.

>>5397027
If she is a foodie theres no reason to go out with her on a date.

Also whos the vegan op, you or the waitress?

>>5397031
She's vegan. I like going to vegan restaurants and cafes but I don't know much about cooking it

>>5397018
no

>>5397037
Dont waste your time with her.
She will only yield retarded kids for the lack of animal protein, fat and iron and other bunch of stuff...

>>5397018
falafel sandwiches!

>>5397047
>2014
>dating with the intent of marrying

>>5397051
>the ocasional accidental breeding

>>5397027
Thank you anon. Should I text her to ask what kind of food she likes or is that too beta and I should just show up with food

>>5397051
HAHA faggot thought because, sex then marriage was involved?
>32 30 31 34
>being this stupid

>>5397054
Stalk her Facebook and find pictures of food.

>>5397051
>tumblr
>vegan

You're a complete faggot

>>5397100
I'm not vegan and I don't use tumblr. I did save that cosplay from cgl tho

>>5397018
>I want to bring some kickass picnic meal to impress her.
If you don't know much about cooking vegan you're not going to impress her with what you make. So impress here with the gestalt of the meal - everything organic, and the foods all relate to each other. Here would be a Middle Eastern example:

Hummus
Baba G
Olives
Pickled veggies
Good bread
Bottle of vegan wine

The concept holds together, the dishes work together and it ought to appeal to her philosophically as well. Plus you can just buy this stuff at a high end grocery.

These are probably foods she eats often, so she won't be impressed by the foods themselves, but it will be successful as a picnic.

>>5397164
might as well just make this, it's all damn good, and my mouth is watering just thinking about it.

>>5397018
vegan means she doesnt even eat eggs and cheese, right?
you're fucked

>>5397190
If you're gonna try making your own hummus peel the chickpeas for god tier creamy result. (And go light on the garlic - a little goes a long way).

>>5397047

>not wanting a healthy, slim vegan GF
>Australian accent optional

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwbhJhCM6g

>>5397344
>not wanting insatiable Paleo GF
>woodnymph costume optional

>>5397344
My experience has been that vegetarian and vegan chicks are, as a whole, incredibly hot. Especially punk vegan girls.

>>5397344
I dont thread women as a commodity so i prefer them with enough energy to do stuff.

>>5397428
>diet high in healthy plant foods
>not enough energy
wut?

>>5397424
>>5397371
>>5397344
one day when you grow up youll realize looks fade and its better to be with someone you can actually fucking stand to be around

though the number one thing i look for is, if we get married, can this bitch run the front of house

in the mean time keep poundin that hot young tail

>>5397441
cool story bro

>>5397441
>run the front of house
Are you from 1950? Not many women want to be housewives.

>>5397446
talking about the dining room man. why would you even think FOH means housewife?

>>5397441

>someone you can actually fucking stand to be around

And if what someone prefers to eat has any bearing on your ability to stand being near them, you need to grow up as well. There's more to life and companionship than food.

Tell her you never give money to charity because it perpetuates the suffering of the people who recieve it. Tell her how after you saw poor African children starving on TV you instantly decided to not fund that market any more. Tell her about the suffering African children your helped by making sure they were never born into suffering. Tell her that in your perfect world there would be no suffering cows or African people, because as long as there is a fickle flame of consciousness still lit in this world your only ambition will be to snuff it out.

Vegans dig that shit, apperently.

>>5397446
but many still do.
is that okay with you, or is it too retro for a woman to want to run a house?

>>5397460

Actually it would be beneficial for Africans to have less children. It'd cause less starvation, less disease, and as a result improve the quality of life of all the living Africans. The non-vegan point of view in the analogy would be to continuously, purposely breed african children so that they would starve to death over and over.

>>5397437
What?
Dont tell me you are not familiar of the "energy dips" this deluded faggots go through.

And im not making this up, look for the faggot thats say stupid shit like 30 bananas a day and see how he does in a marathon.

>>5397457
well since food is my career and life and IMO is one of the best ways to bring people together and become closer

so yeah what someone chooses to eat def has a bearing on whether or not I can stand being around then, I couldnt deal with someone who doesnt eat meat, love pork, and offal and trad foods.

its what i like to cook, its what i like to eat why would I be with someone that I couldnt eat what I enjoy around or have to cook two separate meals for just to have dinner

>>5397441
>>5397446
>>5397461

again I was talking about running the front of house in the restaurant not being a housewife

not that there is anything wrong with being a homemaker. IMO some one should stay at home with the kids atleast until they start school. if both parents are working full time its hard to have the time to spend with kids that they need

>>5397484

>well since food is my career and life

Okay, Guy Fieri. The only thing that matters in life is flavortown. Gotcha.

>>5397477
I really hate how people always bitch about the starving kids in africa and everytime you see them they have tons of fucking kids

quit having fucking kids if you cant afford them it just spreads what food there is even thinner

I dont understand whats so hard about this. why is it my responsibility to make sure your kids get fed because you cant take a load on your stomach instead of your nasty cunt

>>5397503
>everytime you see them they have tons of fucking kids

well, they're uneducated niggers, religiously told to avoid contraceptives, and economically motivated to have kids to support the family.

it's a recipe for disaster.

>>5397484
>I couldnt deal with someone who doesnt eat meat, love pork, and offal and trad foods.
This may surprise you, but there are other foods in the world than pork and offal. If food is your career, you should be excited about the endless possibilities of vegan cuisine. Don't need meat and dairy to make a badass meal, anon.

>>5397481
Carl Lewis, a vegan, won 9 Olympic gold medals in track and field. "energy dips" my ass.

>>5397508

>Don't need meat and dairy to make a badass meal, anon.

It's no use. This is what a "chef" looks like these days. It's not about making interesting, complex food, but about cooking bacon-wrapped beef, pork, or chicken for every meal.

>>5397513
>muh outlier

>>5397497
because I have a passion for something and pursued that as my career and way of supporting myself that somehow makes me like some asshole on tv who in reality doesnt give a fuck about food?

Im not saying food is the only thing that matters in life but for me its a big part of It i work 60 hours a week so I dont have time for much at this point in my life and my free time I spend doing research or hunting/fishing and doin reg things like cleaning and doing laundry

sorry for being passionate about something and having goals I want to achive

>>5397508
This is true, but an omnivorous diet includes vegan dishes on top of everything, whereas a vegan diet excludes huge swathes of the culinary world.

>>5397517

And where's your data coming from?

>>5397508
>>5397515

no but there is just too much out there to become a master of everything which is why most chefs focus on a certain cuisine, for me that is classic french and country/farm style foods.

I love veggies and fruit and other meats but everyone has their fav foods and foods they dont like. Im not vegan/vegetarian so why would I devote my time to learning about it? I wouldnt ask a vegan chef to spend their time learning the finer points of meat cookery

>>5397513
>Carl Lewis
>A huge black dude 6'2''
>That comes from one of the most racist shitholes in murrica.
>With hundreds of years of unnatural selection
>Than can eat fag plants and still strive on.

He could be eating dirt and still being physically superior than all of you vegan fucks.
So no, you are not getting that trait thru veggies you fag.

>>5397531

>Im not vegan/vegetarian so why would I devote my time to learning about it?

It'd behoove any chef to know more about how to cook vegetables, grains, and legumes without just dumping butter or bacon grease on them. You don't need to be a vegetarian/vegan to make use of thousands of tasty plant foods

>>5397534

The strongest man in Germany is vegan too. I don't think these examples prove anything, but I do have to ask where you came up with your assertion that a lack of meat will somehow cause dips in energy levels. If anything, your energy would go up if you replaced meat in the diet with high carbohydrate, high fiber foods like beans and oats

>>5397164
I like this idea. Thanks. I was also thinking maybe a sandwich. I looked on Facebook and didn't really find many food pics.

>>5397164
Seconding this shit, also, you need some dessert there. Lemon honey cake is the shit (use soy or almond milk instead of cow milk and sunflower oil instead of butter, etc., obviously). Or some of those little Greek pastries (probably difficult as fuck to make vegan, but it is an excellent excuse to share morsels). Either way, keep the palate coherent.

>>5397548

>pitted dates filled with walnut butter
>maybe rolled in crunchy toasted pecan pieces too

>>5397529
where's yours?

>"'energy dips' my ass"
>one example of successful vegan athlete
>this proves that vegans don't have energy dips

>>5397557

>where's yours?

That's not how the burden of proof works

>>5397536
thats not vegan/vegetarian foods thats just basic veg and carb cookery which I do know how to cook

vegan/veg cooking would be designing and cooking dishes that are made to fulfill the roles veg and carbs but also take the place of meats

theres a lot more to traditional cooking than just adding butter and bacon grease to everything. more than anyone could master in a lifetime so im not going to concern myself with learning to cook food I dont want to eat myself, dont believe in, and wouldnt serve to customers.

>>5397558
i didnt realize it only goes one way

>>5397570

It goes the way of the person making the claim. To say "vegans have energy dips" you need to give evidence for why that should be considered true. The fact that someone else offered a contrary example doesn't mean the burden has shifted, just that now you have slightly more evidence against what you're saying, because you haven't presented anything yourself yet.

>>5397544
If she likes Vietnamese food, try this bahn mi. Fucking delicious. If she's sensitive to spice, though, you're out of luck.

http://www.happivore.com/recipe/bahn-mi

>>5397558
it's simple common sense.

>full balanced diet
all macronutriets, plenty of calories
>vegan diet
fewer macronutriets, fewer sources, more difficult to attain calories

of course a vegan diet would be lower energy. unless someone is a dedicated nutritionist and/or supplements with vitamins.

>>5397540
He became vegan in 2011, and most of his accomplishments are pre-2011.
Look at any list of strength world record holders and you wont find many, if any, vegans.
>mfw vegans try to argue this

>>5397536
This. I'm an omnivore, but I love vegetables, legumes, etc and am always trying out interesting and tasty veggie dishes. If you want to be a well rounded cook/person, you don't just learn to cook meats and dishes dripping with cheese, etc.

Anyway, OP, since it's outdoors, I'd make things that are easy to transport and easy to eat.
Hummus and veggies/pita chips
Veggie wraps/sandwiches
Veggie burritos
other veg dips, like white bean -garlic dip, baba ganoush, roasted red pepper dip, tapenade, etc. A carafe with a lid full of lemonade or iced tea
vegan wine

>>5397548
I don't think vegans allow themselves honey.

>>5397589

>>full balanced diet
>all macronutriets, plenty of calories
>>vegan diet
>fewer macronutriets, fewer sources, more difficult to attain calories

That's an interesting theory, but there is a few holes

>fewer macronutrients

Depends entirely on what you're eating. This goes for vegan and non-vegan diets, the act of eating or not eating meat does not decide the rest of the diet, nor does it turn an otherwise bad diet into a good one or detract from a good diet when it's not present. In fact the macronutrient most associated with energy levels is carbohydrate, which is virtually absent in meat and abundant in plant foods, giving vegans the edge in energy.

>fewer sources

It's no different than trying to argue someone who doesn't eat ice cream or cake has energy dips because they have less calorie sources to choose from.

>more difficult to attain calories

More difficult in what way? Peeling and eating some bananas seems pretty easy

>>5397612
>giving vegans the edge in energy
that's silly. omnivores can eat everything. so how exactly do vegans have an edge in anything?

>It's no different than trying to argue someone who doesn't eat ice cream or cake has energy dips because they have less calorie sources to choose from.
laughable logic

>Peeling and eating some bananas seems pretty easy
dear lord, please don't tell me you're one of those 30 bananas a day faggots....TOP lel

>>5397540
And this motherfucker comes from Iran wich means he had surpluss bullets with fruit loops for breakfast.

>>5397623

>omnivores can eat everything. so how exactly do vegans have an edge in anything?

Because the only way for an omnivore to eat the exact food a vegan eats + meat, is for the omnivore to become obese from taking in those extra calories, which would also lower energy levels.

>laughable logic

Exactly, that's what I'm saying

>dear lord, please don't tell me you're one of those 30 bananas a day faggots....TOP lel

I'm not a fruitarian, but I do eat bananas or other fruit when I'm hungry and don't want to wait to cook something. I think most people eat bananas.

>>5397589
>fewer macronutriets, fewer sources, more difficult to attain calories
Have you ever studied nutrition? Vegan diets are made up of the most nutritionally dense food groups. There are only fewer sources if all you can think of eating are burgers and pizza. There are literally thousands of vegan foods, and endless options. Go to any decent vegan restaurant and tell me they have fewer sources.

>>5397477

The flaw in your way of thinking is that you believe there is a line under which people are suffering while those above it do not. You compare the quality of life for cows and people with your quality of life, and considers anyone who is worse of than you as suffering.

Consider an immortal alien species that never suffered: would they be justified in killing the human species because we suffer? Why would they continously, purposely let us breed only so that we may suffer and die 80 years later?

You are in no position to tell starving or sick people that people who suffer as much as they does not benefit from being alive. They don't agree and they keep trying to stay alive and make the best of the situation, and that is enough for them so why the fuck does their suffering bother you more than it does them?

>>5397649

>There are literally thousands of vegan foods, and endless options.

yeah but.... but there's not like.... bacon.... bacon is a calorie source... if you're not eating it, you're gonna get like.... y-you know, like energy dips... from bacon deficiency....

>>5397655

>You are in no position to tell starving or sick people that people who suffer as much as they does not benefit from being alive

I see what you're saying, but the idea that we should bring as many people into the world as possible because it's better to have a planet of starving babies than to deny the babies existence in the first place I don't agree with.

>They don't agree and they keep trying to stay alive and make the best of the situation

That's because they already exist. You're comparing those that currently exist and strive to end their suffering, with those that don't exist and so never had to suffer. I'm not advocating killing all the people that suffer, my position is that we shouldn't bring people into the world for the sole purpose of having them suffer.

>>5397656
>muh hilarious strawman

>>5397649
>can't eat dairy or meat
>>hurr we have tons of sources

you do realize an omnivore can eat all of your nutrient dense vegan food with meat on the side?

>>5397663
trolls trolling trolls
trolololol

You know what vegan fucks? Fuck you and fuck your vegan faggotry!
If you want to turn your back in evolution go fucking ahead.
I see you vegans fags.
>bu-but you cant prove that
Guess what faggot?! that high capacity brain is direct result of a high animal protein diet.

>OH SWEET YEEEEZUS
I wish i could drop kick into your house and eat your fucking pets you fucking vegan faggot.

>>5397678
Also fuckin stupid slow vegan, get bitchslaped by facts.
Wich thanks to your faggot diet you are probably to stupid to comprehend.
>http://pubpages.unh.edu/~jel/512/512_Diet_notes.html

>>5397678
There's nothing special about animal protein, anon. Amino acids are amino acids. Our ancient ancestors, however, blew at agriculture and so had to hunt to get their protein.

In 2014, however, we can easily satisfy all our nutritional needs on a vegan diet.

>>5397678

> that high capacity brain is direct result of a high animal protein diet.

Actually it's been said that it came from the development of extra amylase in our gut and saliva, allowing us to digest starch more efficiently, which supplied extra glucose to the brain. Neither theory is 100% concrete, and of course starch sources are often high sources of protein as well, so there's some overlap there, but it's not as definitive as "monkeys ate meat, now we're smart."

>>5397585
That looks good. Jalapenos are mild to me but the rest of my family breathes fire just with a lil cayenne so I know spice sucks for some people. How about a pesto sandwich? Any good vegan pesto recipes?

>>5397684
Dear faggot:
Here is a link to back up my claims
>http://pubpages.unh.edu/~jel/512/512_Diet_notes.html

And here is a pic also!
>>5397678
Ah the lovely colors.

Gee i dont see enything like that in your post, maybe with your slow ass vegan bitch brain you just forgot it.

>>5397683
>In 2014, however, we can easily satisfy all our nutritional needs on a vegan diet.

Yep, thanks to the magic of long-distance refrigerated transportation, chemical ripening, and artificial fertilizers we can now completely ignore growing seasons, and if you're lucky enough to live somewhere with good supermarkets then you can buy any veggie you dream of any time of the year, thereby enabling your balanced Vegan diet.

When you stop relying on your produce being shipped in from 1000's of miles away on giant smoke-belching ships and trucks you'll find it's a lot more difficult to maintain a balanced vegan diet.

>>5397700

Why do you act so hostile? Why can't we just discuss something?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6983330.stm

>>5397702
vegans getting BTFO

>“At some point — probably about 2 1/2 million years ago — meat eating became important to humans,” said Stanford, chair of the anthropology department in the USC College of Letters, Arts and Sciences, “and when that happened, everything changed.”

FUCK YOU RAW VEGANS!

Im pretty sure your vegan is ok op, i just cant stand these faggots with their shit.

>>5397702

You act like it's not the same for a meat-inclusive diet. Besides the fact that you can't JUST eat meat and you'll be eating the same plants all those vegans eat, your cows and chicken and pigs need a massive industry feeding them antiobiotics and growth hormones to have them grow big and fast for you to eat, they're imported from all over the world (statistically, most of the chicken you eat is probably from China), and if you don't live on the coast then all the fish you eat is shipped around too. It's a non-argument.

>>5397714
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6983330.stm

Faggot:
Does your lettuce brain can procces reading?


> Speculation

Professor John Dupré, a professor of philosophy of science at Exeter University in the UK, urged caution when interpreting the findings.

>>5397729
Im putting this on a separated post because i dont want your lentil brain to explode.

>He said it was impossible to conclude that the introduction of starchy foods into the diet lay behind the emergence of larger brains in humans.

>>5397720

"became important" doesn't mean it still is important. An extra source of calories in the wild is very useful to any species, it says absolutely nothing about what's important to modern-day humans who have access to a bounty of diverse foods.

>>5397729

Is science not an entirely speculative process?

>this whole thread

And the stereotype is that VEGANS are the obnoxious ones?

hummus
mutherfucking hummus


500 grams of drained chickpeas
2 garlic cloves
1 tablespoon of glorious american peanut butter (or tahini if you're a muslim)
juice from 1 lime (nevah use lemons)
salt
like 1/2 teaspoon of cumin
glorious california extra virgin olive oil
some fucking paprika or cayenne (only if you're a hardcore US Navy Seal) for garnish
chopped flat leaf parseley for garnish

mix lime juice, peanut butter, salt, garlic, cumin and some reserved liquid from chickpeas with hand blender until some weird ass soup is made

then add the chickpeas one at a time, or you can dump all that shit in at once.

Blend that shit until desired consistency like smooth or coarse with handheld mixer, add olive oil into that shit and smell the glorious american california sun light up that hummus

taste it, is it good? it's awesome, if not, go see your specialist for tongue or brain cancer. or you could adjust seasoning, more liquid, salt or lime juice if you want.

ok now pour that shit onto a flat plate (a bowl you say? you must be joking), and then skillfully make a golden section spiral (actually an Archimedes spiral will be better) with a teaspoon.

now what? you get some more olive oil and follow that pattern.

now you take the paprika or cayenne and just dust that spiral so the olive oil gives off a reddish hue (hue hue hue)

pita chips (plain, you don't want other tastes affecting your hummus) and veggies (you should really get carrots, or any crispy phallic shaped produce to get her thinking about putting things in her mouth

She'll be dazzled by your skillz and awestruck by your vegan gallantry

Now then, when hummus is almost finished, ask her if she's never eaten meat before...

As she is giving explanation
take out cock
slather hummus on cock
put it in her mouth

great success!

>>5397724
>You act like it's not the same for a meat-inclusive diet

It's not. Traditionally you'd fatten up an animal (normally a pig) and eat it over the winter. The animal becomes your store of nutrition that tides you over until next spring and you can get produce again. This is how humans survived before the advent of the refrigerator.

Of course the meat industry has problems, but it's not binary. There are more options than just "Vegan" and "factory-farmed meat".

My point was simply that if your goal is really to reduce environmental impact then LOCAL is more important than vegan vs omni.

>>statistically, most of the chicken you eat is probably from China

Actually I buy local free-range chickens. They taste a hell of a lot better than the shit at the supermarket. But even for the "average joe" that is doubtful--USA does not import chicken meat from China--it makes no economic sense. The cost of keeping the meat cold for that long of a trip exceeds the value of the meat itself.

>>you don't live on the coast then all the fish you eat is shipped around too.

Yes indeed. That's why I only buy seafood when I can take the time to drive to a seafood market on the coast.

>>5397744
Yeah sure.
Go get some kelp faggot.

>>5397746
nice try VIDF

>>5397754

>grains and dried legumes are shelf-stable for years, well through a winter
>winter vegetables exist

>>5397663
I don't eat meat, I can get my protein from several other plant sources and I am happy and in fact very healthy with that.

>>5397662
>my position is that we shouldn't bring people into the world for the sole purpose of having them suffer.

We do not. That is not why people in Africa have children, and that is not why we breed cattle. You can't deny a hypothetical life its existance, nor can you protect it from suffering. I can't claim to have saved more animals that any vegan because I choose not to eat 10times more meat than I already do. I didn't save any animal from suffering, because there never was any animal, because it wasn't born.

Only individuals can suffer, and only individuals can not suffer. Unless you've helped an individual somewhere to not suffer you haven't prevented any suffering.

>>5397767

Indeed they do. Now find a combination of those which grows in one area and also can provide a balanced diet.

Protip: You won't, because there is no such combination.

Though there are plenty of alternatives that would be Vegan friendly: canning, pickling, dehydrating can all be used to preserve your local produce.

>>5397678
why do people hate vegans so much?

>HEY WE LIKE MEAT AND MAYBE SOME VEGETABLES!
>HEY WE LIKE VEGETABLES AND THATS IT!
>"WHAT? HOW DARE YOU ONLY LIKE VEGETABLES, FOCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

>>5397774
congrats.

still doesn't mean that Vegan is superior or an efficient source for human dietary needs.

How can people stand to eat hummus? Have you really become so hipster that you're able to trick yourself into thinking that mudslag is tasteful?

>>5397780
because omnivores usually don't give a fuck until trolls start claiming veganism is viable and there are plenty of vegan athletes, etc

>>5397783
taste my recipe, or you can taste my cock, either way you win.

>>5397702
>implying that meat doesn't come from giant nazi concentration camp "farms" where cows and chickens and pigs live cramped up ass to face rolling in their own shit until new strains of flue are born from the toxic muck that is their home, suffering horrendously as they are fed pesticide drenched genetically modified grains that they were never meant to eat in nature, injected with hormones and antibiotics to prolong their miserable existence and fatten them up more, so that you can have more of your precious bacon to give yourself heart cancer with, living these stressful lives and suffering so much constantly until they are slaughtered in often horrible inhumane ways, and then put onto smoke belching trucks and driven 1000's of miles to satisfy your need to munch on their burnt corpses with ketchup, I MEAN CORN SYRUP (with a little tomato in it)

>>5397791
>Implying that an atomic level vegetables an meat is different

>>5397784
yeah I could care less if someone is vegan or not its when they start the whole meat is murder, how could you do that, you dont need meat to survive shit that riles people up

sure I could live vegan and be healthy but I like meat, it tastes good whats the big deal

there are a lot more vegans that hate on omnivores than omnivores who hate on vegans

>>5397791
i read 7 words and quit reading, nice b8 m8

>>5397702
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>>5397801
read it and find out how wrong you are, unless your scared.

>>5397776
>grows in one area

yea this one time I tried to grow corn but it also wanted to live in new york

>>5397791

>implying the only two options are Vegan and McMeat.

There's plenty of middle ground there, foolio.

>>5397776
>Now find a combination of those which provide a balanced diet. Protip: You won't, because there is no such combination.

why do people talk like they know things when they don't know anything at all?

>>5397816
Nah kid you got it wrong.
Vegan faggots got owned already.
See previous post for clarification.
>>5397678
>>5397682
Score cards will be coming next week thanks to these slow lentil brain faggots.

>>5397784
let me ask you something, when someone jumps up on /ck/ and goes

>"WOOO WOO BACON ROCKS HUE HUE HUE I JUST MADE THIS HEAVY THING AND FRIED IT AND BACONNNN HUEHUEHEU"

some people join the thread and talk about it, and if nobody is interested they just don't make a big deal. yet as soon as someone makes a thread
>"OH YEA BROS I LOVE BROCCOLI ITS SO GOOD AND I ENJOY IT AWW YEAA"

all these people jump up and go
>"SCREW YOU VEGAN SCUM!!!"

why can't everyone just be cool about it? some people like some things while some people like other things.

>>5397828
>why do people talk like they know things when they don't know anything at all?

Let's see an example then: Please describe a combination of winter vegetables, all growable in the same location, which would provide a balanced Vegan diet.

I'm wondering how you will get around the B12 issue alone since there are zero vegan sources of that, period. Supplement pills don't count bro, we're talking about "winter vegetables" here.

>>5397781
>still doesn't mean that Vegan is superior or an efficient source for human dietary needs.

congratulations, still doesn't mean that it isn't.

everyone is different and while you enjoy eating meat and such, I enjoy eating broccoli, but why do you care what other people do with their lives so much as to tell them that they are unhealthy because of the choices they have learned are the best for them? all in all, we will all most likely die when we are around 80 or something, regardless of what we ate right? although if someone eats fast food for 80 years their quality of life probably wont be so good.

do you get what I am saying?

>>5397824

fucking. this.

why do some vegans think that there are only two choices in diet?

Fucking vegans making retard kids.
You have NO right to make a kid dumb because you dont want to eat animals.
>This is the first study to examine the long-term effects on children of maternal supplementation with very-long-chain n-3 PUFAs during pregnancy and lactation. Our present study shows that 4-year-old children have higher mental processing scores when the mothers are supplemented with very-long-chain n-3 PUFAs (from cod liver oil) during pregnancy and lactation, as compared with children of mothers who are supplemented with long-chain n-6 PUFAs (from corn oil).

THIS IS MY PROBLEM

>>5397783
>confirmed for never tried good hummus

>>5397134

If you saved it from cgl the file name would be number.

>>5397855
unless he uses the option to save the file under the original name

>confirmed for not knowing how to use settings

>>5397851
It is ok if and adult male choose a faggot style of life.
But why would you imposse this on a kid?
You faggots shouldnt even be alloud to have kids.
>http://pubpages.unh.edu/~jel/512/news_primates/brain_fatty_acids.htm
Because you have the resources and you go out of your way too keep you faggy diet.

>OP asks for vegan recipes
>Tea party intervenes
>shit storm ensues

>>5397824
>>5397850
same?


nobody said their wasn't some kind of middle ground, why do you strawman the entire comment? the whole point of the comment was to show
>>5397702
that the meat industry is dirty too.

>>5397846
you don't need to grow vegetables in the winter anon, you can grow them at other times of the year and then store enough of them to survive winter, and also you can save the seeds. squirrels do this with their food I think, or you could just go to a store that has very high standards and cares about the environment. we know stores care about money too, but it feels good to buy from someone who cares about nature too.

also, about b12:

>vitamin B12 fortified organic soy milk
>nutritional yeast flakes (these things kick ass on many foods)
>Japanese fermented black tea Batabata-cha
>some tempeh (from some places, depending)
>some spirulina (from some places, depending)
>some Nori (from some places, depending on a few things)
>maca root, depending on the plant

I am Not a doctor. ask your doctor before doing anything.

>>5397900
Not all b12's are the same and all non-animal sources are debatably non-bioavaliable.

I say this and someone whose entire kitchen experience has been raw vegan restaurants; just get the correct tablets but first get tested to see if you have an issue in the first place.

>>5397850
>vegans: eat plants
>"normal people": eat plants and animals

so what is your point?

>>5397911

>all non-animal sources are debatably non-bioavaliable.

That is quite a thing to claim, especially considering even meat eaters suffer B12 deficiency and they aren't ordered to eat more meat but to take a supplement. Everyone, regardless of their dietary patterns, should be supplementing B12 and likely vitamin D as well.

>>5397862
>nobody said their wasn't some kind of middle ground

Well, they certainly implied it due to the wording of >>5397791

>> the whole point of the comment was to show
that the meat industry is dirty too.

1) They simply could have said "the meat industry is dirty too". Nobody is disagreeing with that.

2) It's irrelevant at this point in the discussion anyway. The point was to explain that a balanced vegan diet is only attainable by depending on long-distance transport. That doesn't apply to the meat industry. Yes, SOME of it is indeed dirty, but that doesn't apply to the whole thing. You can raise animals in nearly any climate on earth. The same thing is not true for plants. That's why plants have growing seasons while animals live year-round. You can change that for plants, but only with artificial intervention.

>>5397851
are you retarded? supposedly cooking fish cooks out all the omega 3 fatty acids
meanwhile
>chia seeds
>flax
>walnuts

and many more plant based sources high in omega 3's

if you drink a gallon of corn oil you will get way too much omega 6 and of course you will be unhealthy, vegan or meat eater.

I am Not a doctor. ask your doctor before doing anything.

>4-year-old children have higher mental processing scores when the mothers are supplemented with very-long-chain n-3 PUFAs (from cod liver oil) during pregnancy and lactation, as compared with children of mothers who are supplemented with long-chain n-6 PUFAs (from corn oil).

Animal fat and veggie fat
NOT THE FUCKING SAME

Is this not clear to everyone?

>>5397861
its amazing how these jerks just can't handle how some people make different choices in life than they do.

hitler tried to take over the world and kill everyone who didn't agree with him, so people who are going crazy hating on vegans are kind of being like hitler.

>>5397900
>you don't need to grow vegetables in the winter anon, you can grow them at other times of the year and then store enough of them to survive winter

Yes, I know that. That's why I mentioned canning, pickling, and dehydrating in an earlier post.

But that's really besides the point. The person I was replying to didn't mention those things. They simply said dried grains and winter vegetables--and that's not enough.

>>also, about b12:

Yep, plenty of sources for B12. But those sources aren't relevant to the "grains and winter vegetables" comment.

>>5397922

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17959839

Its not a claim, its a fact.

>>5397776

>Now find a combination of those which grows in one area and also can provide a balanced diet.

Whatever the shit you choose to grow. Here's a list of legumes:

http://www.nourishinteractive.com/healthy-living/free-nutrition-articles/120-list-legumes

Here's a list of grains:

http://wholegrainscouncil.org/whole-grains-101/whole-grains-a-to-z

Here's a list of winter vegetables (including vegetables that grow year-round):

http://www.nourishinteractive.com/healthy-living/free-nutrition-articles/98-vegetables-by-season

>>5397932
please tell me what that "middle ground" really is?

first person said vegetables are dirty and get shipped thousands of miles with dirty trucks, second person said meat is dirty too, and had a really bad start even before its put on dirty trucks and then shipped, and now you are shouting about some middle ground.

what is it?

>>5397939
>hitler tried to take over the world and kill everyone who didn't agree with him

is this really what people believe? Yeah he wasnt the greatest guy but thats outright false, if anything it would be the japs

thats like saying the US civil war was all about slavery

>>5397939
The funner thing is that all of a sudden everybody's a fucking biochemist with a PHD in nutrition all of a sudden.

>>5397937
seriously what were they thinking?

>unhealthy omega 6 from corn
>omega 3 from cod

sneaky bastards didn't include a test with healthy omega 3 from the best plant sources.

>>5397941

That article doesn't say what you think it says.

>>5397939
reductio ad hitlerum ... godwin's law.

i have a buch of muslim friends and they act and think nothing like these retards believe. They're a nice family from Jordan, the dude owns a body shop for the last 25 years. He's a pillar of the community.

Sure, he's never tasted alcohol in his life.
Sure, he doesn't eat pork.
Sure, he's a huge fan of Sadam Hussein and constantly listens to terrorist-looking TV programs that have photos of Sadam everywhere.

But he's a wonderul peron, a great friend, and overall just a cool ass person. I met him because i used to get drunk in the parking lot behind his business. He didn't kick me out - on the contrare, he invited me into the patio area.

Sometimes he's give me some money to buy a beer or let me borrow money for other shit. He talks on Skype with his 14 year old granddaughter every day.

You guys just have no life experience - no fucking diverse friends, so you think all arabs are fundamentalist retards when in fact the muslims hate the terrorists themselves.

Although - they DO have a point about USA foreign policies and I completely agree. The terrorists wouldn't get as much support if USA respected other cultures. Instead we're constantly overthrowing governments and bombing places we don't understand.

The women WANT to be covered up over there, jesus christ how hard is that to understand. "Freedom" is "debauchery" in their culture. They are modest, conservative. They chop thiev's hands and rapists' dicks off....

they don't want "People of Walmart" to happen in their lands. I respect that and so should you.

>>5397940
b12 was mentioned in the comment
>>5397846

so b12 was one of the topics the other comment replied about.

>hmmm uhh b12....
>yea? b12 b12 b12
>WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT B12 HUH?

>>5397934
Ok go ahead.
Fuck up your kids.
See how much i care.

But i hope you feel regreat when that poor kid becomes below average.

>>5397965

Wait, are we talking about muslims now?

>>5397960
>"I POSTED A LINK SO IM RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHIGN I SAID

>OP's face when he revisits his thread later

>>5397949
The Civil War was all about slavery. "State's Rights" was back justification to make it sound better.

>>5397970
well you guys were earlier, i must have skipped the few messages where it switched to vegans. fuck vegans though - that's not a religion, that's a hobby of luxury.

>>5397981
lol ok

i guess you think the emancipation proclamation freed all the slave too huh

>>5397943
this is really cool. thanks.

>>5397702
Except the meat industry is actually the most environmentally destructive. Requires way more resources, and produces far more pollutions than a vegan or vegetarian diet.

>>5397983

>fuck vegans though - that's not a religion, that's a hobby of luxury.

What do you mean?

>>5397965

>The women WANT to be covered up over there

And if they DON'T want to be covered up, they get stoned to death.

>>5397585

Are you guys retarded? Bread is made from Yeast - a cute fuzzy yeast that you're just going to murder!

you can't have bread, alcohol, or mushrooms if you're a true vegan.

Also, there are skin cells in the air you breathe, so you're basically practicing cannibalism every single day.

>>5397983
>that's a hobby of luxury.
Uh, meat is the most expensive food to produce, in the US we just subsidize the fuck out of it. But what do you think people in poor third world countries eat? Not meat.

>>5397969
you go ahead and keep on thinking like that, you will likely pass all your retarded ideas onto your kids until all they eat is bacon.
>daddy why do I have cancer?

lord forbid.

>>5398011

The fungi kingdom isn't the animal kingdom. Cease and desist

>>5398008
this.

freedom is about having the right to do what makes you happy as long as you aren't hurting someone else. as soon as one of those women takes their covers off, they get murdered by insane fanatics. completely unfair.

>>5398003

a hobby of luxury is something... that is not a necessary practice, but one that arises out of a whoole bunch of free time and extended peace (military wise).

During the renaissance, we got a bunch of beautiful art, culture, etc.

If you live in almost any country in the world, you just won't have the choice to say "oh,yeah, that huge category of food that comprises 70% off our meals? no, im not eating that anymore. I only eat fresh veggies and certified organic."

It's disgusting. I don't uderstand how vegans don't realize how fucking stupid they look, avoiding perfectly good food to say other food is better.

Not to mention the ones that do it out of "muh animal cruelty". Those people are also over-emotional retards. You don't save any animals by not buying meat. You just don't. And breeding and killing animals for food is not wrong. It's how YOU were able to be born, btw. Mr Vegan.

do you undettand? i can keep ranting, but essentially it boils down to vegans sitting on a pile of money and saying "im booored... im bored... what new hobby can i invent to make myself feel like im special..."

>>5398013
> But what do you think people in poor third world countries eat? Not meat.

are you fucking retarded? of course they eat meat. That's the main thing all people eat.

>>5398011
in the human body there are constantly cells dying and being created. does that mean someone should have 50 babies at the same time and commit suicide?

NO.

>>5397979
>implying he didn't know this would happen by creating a Vegan thread

>>5398034
>implying everyone in the whole wide world is exactly the same

>>5398036
You make a good point! The fact that vegans swallow errant cheek and tonugue cells from the inside of their own mouths, veganism officially doesn't exist and has been debunked.

Also... having 50 babies at once right before an-heroing is the ONLY way to live. How do you think I was able to get an all-sibling NFL team going?

>>5398041
you're the one that implied that you fucktard! I didn't generalize about all people in developing countries untiil YOU did. stupid ass.

>>5398013
Yeah, they do they eat meat if you're going to talk about EVERYONE all at once like "they're" even a they.

>>5398030
>" You just don't. And breeding and killing animals for food is not wrong. It's how YOU were able to be born, btw. Mr Vegan."

>" it boils down to vegans sitting on a pile of money and saying "im booored... im bored... what new hobby can i invent to make myself feel like im special..."

>do you undettand?

no I can't say I undettand and I definitely don't argee

>>5398049
you fail at logic...

>>5398030

The fuck's going on here? If meat and dairy comprises 70% of your meals, you need to be rushed to the hospital

>no, im not eating that anymore. I only eat fresh veggies and certified organic."

Now I see. You, like many people who feel the need to attack veganism, have a fundemental misunderstanding of what you're trying to be upset about. You read "vegan" and think Ellen Degeneres or some posh 30 year old woman following a fad diet who eats nothing but organic kale smoothies. How could you possibly be so open-minded and accepting of muslims, yet this ignorant and closed-minded about vegan diets?

>>5398053
how can you disagree without understanding what you're disagreeing with?
> vegan detected.

>>5398064

>how can you disagree without understanding what you're disagreeing with?

That seems to be the entire oppositition to veganism on /ck/

>>5398060
lol you guys are deliberately trying to misunderstand me, i highly doubt you're this retarded.

70% of the meals are not meat. 70% of the meat HAVE meat.

So, let's say I had 4 meals... 3 of them had 10% meat. That means that 75% of my meals contain meat...

but meat only comprises 7.5% of my meals.


What i was saying is that in most developing countries the meal is the centerpiece.

the beef on the tacos. the roasted chicken they raised themselves, etc.

>>5398068

>70% of the meals HAVE meat.

What if they stopped?

>>5398066
i have several vegan friends and every vegan person I've asked says the same shit. Some of them are different reasons, but... they can never explain the logic behind it.

either
> It's healthier/Diet "-prove it." - I can't. "ok."
> Animal cruelty. (makes no fucking sense...)
> Protester without a cause. (just doing it because its the latest fad.)

most people fall under the third category, but all three are equally annoying retarded (usually women) that can't give even ONE rational reason of why somebody would go against the natural biology of being an omnivore, and go out of his way to eat nothing but veg.

There's not one good reason to be a Vagitarian. Unless it's part of yoru religion.

>>5398015
OH SWEET GEEESUS TAKE THE WHEEL
Does this mean im gonna stuffed my son with only animal protein?
Not it doesnt you kelp brain faggot.
>implying the only two options are Vegan or McMeat.
I should had spected no less from a faggot who aproaches the subject like a religion.
Go on a hug a tree you piece of shit.
Sing it some songs, ups sorry, sing "him" some song.

>>5398077
then they would have way less to eat.... and go hungry.

a lot of times when meat's on the menu, they're killing their own chicken or their own goat - things that lay eggs and make milk.

>>5398015

haha this guy's brain has been melted by all the pesticides on his organic celery sticks.

> supposedly cooking fish cooks out all the omega 3 fatty acids
lol. source please. this is utter nonsense.

> I am Not a doctor. ask your doctor before doing anything.
That's okay, actually. I don't want to consult a doctor, I want to consult a dumb ass. So far this has been most enlightening.

it's well known that animal fats and proteins - are the GOOD kind of fat and cholesterol, and that plant oils and other shit are BAD for you.

why do you think cooking in 100% beef lard is healthier for you then corn oil??

>>5398089

>then they would have way less to eat.... and go hungry.

Unless they eat other things, especially things that offer more calories/nutrition for less money. Grains and legumes, which most of the world primarily survives on.

>>5397018
Even your fake and gay story about picking up a chick is not enough to stop the pro/anti vegan shitposting.

Celery with peanut butter is a winner though

>>5398084

>There's more options than vegan and mcmeat, kale-for-brains!
>But if you're a vegan, that means you have your children drink a cup refined corn oil every day, no exceptions

>>5398083
>implying religion is a good reason to do anything

>>5398083
you have shitty hipster friends.

I used to not be vegan (huge shock right?) a long time ago I used to eat meat and drink milk, and I would always see these other hipsters being vegan just to be cool, but the reason I changed my way of eating to vegan is because I believe that it makes me healthier, I don't care what you think, and I don't walk up and down the street boasting that I am vegan, I also don't use facebook to shame everyone who isn't vegan. you have SHIT friends.

>>5398101
>pesticides on his organic celery sticks

>>5398109
>haha this guy's brain has been melted by all the pesticides on his organic celery sticks.

>>5398113
>I believe that it makes me healthier

Im ok with you dude.
I hate the rest of the faggots who CLAIM theyre healthier and shit.

>>5398109
abandon thread, vegan hating shilltrolls that love kissing monsanto's ass have spammed the thread to death

>>5398121
Why are you making it a monsanto thing now?
Because your bitch ass arguments werent valid.
Thats a faggy courtain smoke attempt you get away with you faggotry.

>>5398103
> Grains and legumes, which most of the world primarily survives on.
there you go again - you're generalizing again! and about the same fucking thing... we already discussed this - you're wrong. Meat is a centerpiece in all third world countries. Legumes and grains are consumed heavily but WITH meat. Nobody fucking eats rice and beans by themselves. They'll at least have a little chicken or carne with it.

just stop responding to me. You've obviously traveled the devloping world and noticed everyone is a vegan and non-gmo eater, based on their thick rimmmed glasses and ironic t-shirts. "wow, is that a back to the future shirt, Matambo? That's dope. Pass me some of the kale burger."

retard.

there, you made me pull up some shit. i actually have a source... unlike you.

The world has over 50 000 edible plants. Just three of them, rice, maize and wheat, provide 60 percent of the world's food energy intake.


The main staple foods in the average African diet are (in terms of energy) cereals (46 percent), roots and tubers (20 percent) and animal products (7 percent).

7%. I said 7.5%, remember? haha. Fucking score. You're an idiot. Besides rice, corn and wheat, the next staple is MEAT

>>5397018


Sure she works there, but are you sure she's vegan? At least she will think good of you

>>5398121
>retreat
>I'm BTFO
>damage control

>>5398120
well do you eat meat and claim to be healthier? I appreciate that you are okay with "the cool vegans who don't mess with anyone" but either of our claims are really as good as dirt aren't they?

for me, eating only plants and mushrooms etc, has made me much healthier than how I was before.

before I ate meat, + fast food and other junky things. then I slowly translated away from junk food and had vegetables and meat, and drank milk, then I switched to only eating vegetables/fruits/nuts/seeds etc. and I feel better now than I have ever felt before. This, according to my opinion and experience, is why I claim to be healthier.

For ME, this is what is right.

for You, maybe you do better with meat.

>>5398113

> you have SHIT friends.
at least I have some. The way you carry yourself implies your mom is your only friend.

>I don't care what you think, and I don't walk up and down the street boasting that I am vegan, I also don't use facebook to shame everyone who isn't vegan.

Right right... except you do care because you were arguing like a madman about it... trying to convince everyone that its better.. (unless that wasnt you)

And aren't you doing your facebook shaming right now, on 4chan?

if you didn't caer you wouldn't participate in the thread. you'd just be like "oh, wow...retards arguing about what each other eats. Who cares...click"

but you didn't do that, and now you're part of the problem instead of part of the solution.

>>5398131

You're horribly misusing the term "centerpiece"

>The main staple foods in the average African diet are (in terms of energy) cereals (46 percent), roots and tubers (20 percent) and animal products (7 percent).
>Besides rice, corn and wheat, the next staple is MEAT

And here you misuse the word staple. 7% of diet is not a staple food.

>>5398129
all of you health food haters have the same goal don't ya?

>every vegan thread on /ck/
>"BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES ALL OUT WAR, BASH THE VEGANS!!!"

>every organic food thread
>"GMO IS GOOD YOU FAGGOT! I LOVE MONSANTO HOW COULD YOU EVER LIKE ORGANIC"

>every thread that forgets to mention meat
>"HEY ARE YOU VEGAN? GET HIM!!!"

you are all the same shilltrolls. its quite obvious now to everyone, and so is every comment you make.

>>5398136
ooh haha! I can see it now.

> Hey! I brought all this vegan nonsense!
> "Ugh. I HATE vegan food. Im surrounded by it all day.... I only need one thing. A fucking big mac. RIGHT NOW."

then she punches you in the stomach and steals your wallet and runs straight into McD....

girl of my dreams.

>>5398159

lol you're the one with an agenda, moron. you keep trying to pretend like you're improving our understanding of nutrition when you're just yelling "MEAT'S A WITCH! BURN HER!"

>>5398131

>aside from this, this, that, this, and that making up 93% of their diet, the last 7% is a big deal!

>>5398158

im just going to keep asking for sources, cause you seem to not grasp the fact that im referencing organizations devoted to knowing these facts, a .org no less.

and you're just spouting your uninformed opinion.

> 7% of diet is not a staple food.
citation needed.

do vegans swallow?

>>5398172
> >aside from this, this, that, this, and that making up 93% of their diet, the last 7% is a big deal!

this is a correct and factual statement.

What are these vegans trying to argue about, anyway? Are they saying that eating what the poorest people in 3rd world countries are is good for you?

> In Nambia, they eat 99% rice! And so should you, meat breath!

even if you're right - taht the developing world doesn't eat meat (which isn't even close to true), it still doesn't explain why someone with access to meat would have to give it up. So we can be like third world hungry folks?

>>5398154
>"at least I have some. The way you carry yourself implies your mom is your only friend."

projecting much? nobody needs to tell others that they have friends, if not to justify it and prove it to people who don't actually care. "hey look everyone! I'm cool! look at me! please?"

>"Right right... except you do care because you were arguing like a madman about it... trying to convince everyone that its better.. (unless that wasnt you)"

no, wasn't me. plenty of trolls trolling trolls with some shills mixed in. I like organic vegan food, but I don't try to give everyone a seizure and force them to change their way of like, however I do love talking about it, especially with others who also like the same things as me.

>And aren't you doing your facebook shaming right now, on 4chan?

>implying facebook is 4chan

they will try, but they will fail... ever see those blog shitposters on /ck/?


>if you didn't caer you wouldn't participate in the thread. you'd just be like "oh, wow...retards arguing about what each other eats. Who cares...click"

I don't care about idiots arguing but I do care when people try to spread lies and disinformation, like that one guy who says vegans have a mandatory cup of grease every day, and that other guy posting links to biased studies about omega3 and 6.

>but you didn't do that, and now you're part of the problem instead of part of the solution.

what is the problem and what is the solution? +1 point for sounding like a badass and -1 for using an overused quote.

>>5398176

I'm not doubting the validity of your numbers, I'm saying you're using the numbers to imply something that they do not imply. We both agree that 93% of the average african diet is plant foods. Why, by any logic, would you consider the remaining group of 7% a staple that if they didn't have, they would starve rather than just eating more of the food they already get 93% of their calories from? Moreover, why do you THINK the percent for animal products is so low? Because it's abundant and easily available to everyone?

>>5398184
NO because drinking cum is murder!

>>5398197
>>5397018
then who would want a vegan gf?

>>5398194

cause its the 4th most consumed product? who gave you authority to cut off "staples" at the first 3?

corn, wheat, legumes, and MEAT. #4 is a staple.

>>5398168
I never said that, maybe all the trolls are saying that but not me and the rest of the normal people who just happen to be vegan.

it seems to be the opposite as well, people that really hate vegans really seem to love to go to vegan thread for some reason.

title of thread:
>hey my grill friend is vegan does anyone have any vegan recipes?
>WHOA WHAT DO WE HAVE HERE VEGANS IN /ck/? HOW DARE THEY TRY TO TALK ABOUT VEGETABLES IN THEIR OWN THREAD!!! lets go in and bother them
>vegans try to defend themselves
>WHOAAA HOW DARE THESE VEGANS TRY TO CONVINCE US THEY ARE BETTER!

all of you vegan haters come because you love to listen to us, or your insane. we just want to talk about vegetables together, without you.

>>5398204
NOBODY!

Also fuck this dude.
>>5398144
I was on your side faggot!

OH LORD HAVE MERCY

>Okinawa's known for having more centenarians than anywhere else in the world
>diet consists of about 99% plant foods with an average of 15 grams (less than half a serving) of fish a day

What if we could alter the diet so that whatever 15 grams of fish would offer is instead being offered by non-fish, non-meat sources?

>>5398218
what? but vegan faggots started this

>>5398210

>cause its the 4th most consumed product?

Out of how many?

>>5397344

This.
this was the faggot who triggerd everything.
Also 2014 nigger, judging women by their looks.
>Fucking vegans when will they learn.

>>5398218
> the rest of the normal people who just happen to be vegan.
there's no such thing man. you sound like a fag.

> all of you vegan haters come because you love to listen to us, or your insane. we just want to talk about vegetables together, without you.
see what I mean? Utterly homosexual responses.

>>5398144
> stops eating fast food
> starts eating veggies
> gets healthier.
> thinks its from the veggies and not....STOPPING EATING FAST FOOD.

we're not talking about big macs, we're talking about making a nice stew or fried chicken, from scratch. Good healthy eating.

>>5397493
this guy is the only reasonable man in this thread... the rest of you are underage &b&

fucking vegans man.

>>5398232
out of ALL of them... dude did you even fucking go to site I linked? or are you fucking arguing strictly based off /ck/ comments and uninformed opinions?

if your next response doesn't include some actual content, I'm just going to ignore it.

>>5398261

You actually didn't link a site, but if you're saying it's the 4th most consumed food.... out of 4 foods... come on, man. You're too focused on being angry that you don't realize you're not making good points.

>Hating Vegans
>Hating Liberals
>Hating Muslims
>Civil war was a states right issue

/ck/ confirmed for the new home of the Tea Party

>>5398276
>hating faggot vegans
yes
>anything else
debatable

>>5398276
Also
>tea party
Get your head out of your ass you faggot murriturd.

>>5398210

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staple_food

>A staple food, sometimes simply referred to as a staple, is a food that is eaten routinely and in such quantities that it constitutes a dominant portion of a standard diet in a given population, supplying a large fraction of the needs for energy-rich materials and generally a significant proportion of the intake of other nutrients as well

7% is not a dominant portion of total energy intake.

>>5398231
you call starting a thread to talk about vegetables "starting something" you probably beat your wife because she started to scrub your toilet the way you don't like.

>>5398297
Nice extremes there faggot

Like
>you eat meat you get cancer
>you dont eat meat you get healthy and slim
Fuck you leek lover

>>5398243


> stops eating fast food
> starts eating veggies
> gets healthier.
> thinks its from the veggies and not....STOPPING EATING FAST FOOD.

>we're not talking about big macs, we're talking about making a nice stew or fried chicken, from scratch. Good healthy eating.

please learn how to read.

>before I ate meat, + fast food and other junky things.
>then I slowly translated away from junk food and had vegetables and meat, and drank milk,
>THEN I switched to only eating vegetables/fruits/nuts/seeds etc. and I feel better now than I have ever felt before.

if you had reading comprehension you could see that I didn't say I felt better than ever, until I mentioned the last switch to just plants.

>>5398284
ok, /ck/ home to the European neonazi movement / American tea party

>>5398305
this all started because OP made a thread about vegan food.

you, you stinking obnoxious fool, came here to tell vegans off and try and criticize them.

you are a trouble maker, not I.

>>5398229
this is very interesting.

>>5398321
>year of the lord 2014
>Thinking diet trumps genetics

>>5398197
Evvvvry sperm is sacred

>>5398332
>year of the lord 2014
>Thinking diet trumps genetics

okay well

>have expensive million dollar sports car
>instead of fueling with gas, fuels it with icecream
>dude why did my car break down

(don't try this at home)

>>5398308
Too late fag

>>5398347

UHM
I feel theres a type of idea around that post but somehow the lack of nutrients made that poster go bat shit stupid.

Vegan faggot please stop you are only making a fool out you and your religion.

>>5398229
People in Okinawa also smoke like chimneys. Explain.

>>5398509
Their diets offset the smoking. Like how some people have shitty diets, work out like hell, and still look good.

>>5398276
but the american civil war was a states rights issue among other things slavery being the least

>>5398653
Home schooled detected

>>5398662
how so?

>>5397018
This is a new thinly veiled troll thread. The OP is a vegan bastard attempting to convert you. I have called out all of this asshats vegan shenanigans in the past. Seems it has changed tactics.
Hide thread and move along.

>>5398665
It's what conservafags teach to their kids in home school. It's also very wrong. Slavery was a key issue of the civil war. States' Rights had a part, but it was a minor one.

The true lynch pin wasn't either, though. Really it was a culture war. It was a more plutocratic North flourishing while the aristocratic south was floundering. Slavery was barely even economically viable at the time of the Civil War. Even if the South had won, Slavery would have disappeared in a few decades at most. Industrialization was coming, and the war was the South's attempt to curb the tide and stop progress from changing their way of life. It didn't work.

>>5398229
So eat more nuts and fruits?

>>5398662

>responding to an accepted historical fact with a picture of a fundamentalist religious textbook

gb2reddit

>>5398741
>accepted historical fact

Among whack jobs who live in a right wing reality distortion field, maybe. Not among actual historians in the academic world. Oh, right. Education is a liberal conspiracy.

Wow this thread got derailed hard.
Ar least those vegan faggots got told.

>>5398359
is this the new "have you ever even been decided to look more like?" ?

>>5398819
Fuelling a "million dollar" car with ice cream.

Yes i think this is the new
>have you ever even been decided to look more like

Fucking vegans man.

>>5398932
>this is the new "have you ever even been decided to look more like"

no, no it's not.
not even close.
not even close

So about that hummus... What would you advice to serve with it? Apart from that, is freezing it a viable option? Like does its consistence get fucked up or something if I freeze it?

>>5397344
By her definition I'm extreme as fuck. I finally feel good about my weight, body and overall lack of health. Thanks punky vegan girl!

>>5397939
>kind of being like hitler
I can only dream...

>>5399610
You don't freeze it. Will keep in the fridge for a good few days. If you want to get fancy top with a sprinkle of Aleppo pepper (or paprika) and a drizzle of olive oil before serving. If you want to get super classy garnish with toasted pine nuts.

>>5397746
Vegans and non vegans are both obnoxious.

>>5401121
"I'm glad you found a way to feel superior to both."

>>5397484
>food is one of the best ways to bring people together and become closer
you haven't spent too much time on /ck/, have you?

>>5397602
some do
some don't

All of the vegans I know except one don't think bugs count
One vegan I know is a complete nazi

>>5398741
it's considered pseudohistory
http://www.wallbuilders.com/libissuesarticles.asp?id=92
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2010/dec/26/american-civil-war-usa
http://www.charlestondailymail.com/Opinion/Commentary/201106140917

>>5397693
Pesto sandwiches? Are you fucking kidding me?

Do people eat ketchup and mustard sandwiches too? Pesto's a condiment.

OP, how about some nice simple beans and cornbread. delicious, easy, filling, healthy, and you can giggle at each others' farts all night.

>>5397585
I'd date someone if they made me bahn mi.

>>5398733
>implying slavery is an economic decision instead of "hurr durr I'm too lazy to wipe my own ass so I want to force someone else to do it for me."

>or even worse, "I deserve to be able to force people to do anything I please."

http://www.pinterest.com/vfortheanimals/go-vegan-its-easy/

>>5397599
Uh, most of his accomplishments were actually after he went vegan. He lifted the heaviest weight ever lifted fairly recently.
He has also said his performance has improved since becoming vegan and he recovers better.

You've gotten some decent advice on how to put together some vegan things, but you know what anon? I want you to fucking nail that hot piece of ass, and the recommendations you're being given aren't going to do it. Why? It's too basic. While it's thoughtful of actually being vegan, you need to step it up and be thoughtful of the situation you're in, your environment, and well, not be a plebian.

The thing is, if you whip out the whole Moroccan meal, you're going to be way obvious. Are you some sort of fucking Bedouin? Well, if you're a fucking Bedouin, go for it. If not, do this:

It's a music festival, you're going to want to be walking around and not be stuffed. You also don't want 1000 dishes. Don't five course this, it's just trying to hard. Pick just one really killer sandwich type thing, a side, and call it a day. Anything more than this and you are just obviousfag.

Google Lentil Fritter Pitas with Red Cabbage Slaw. It's not a vegan recipe, but this is where you get to be a cool dude. It's vegan except for the yogurt that's called for. This is the only real effort you have to put in. Find a recipe for vegan tzatziki sauce. "Oh, this was no big deal. Hey, I made the tzatziki myself". The whole thing is a great handheld on the go type food, it's not to filling and it's really good. If you can't find the ingredients, find a really good vinegar.

Don't go overboard with the sides. This is a picnic and you don't want to 5 course it remember? I'd have some chips on the side, but see if you can't find some Taro root chips -- they're a really good compliment. Can't find those? Seek out some sweet potato chips. You didn't want potato chips because you were looking for something that would compliment the flavors better. But only answer that if asked. Otherwise you're a pretentious cocksucker.

So, just bring something simple and small, Like your dick. After all, she needs to save room for it.

OP, since it's a music fest and I assume, you'll be walking around, make these:
http://ohsheglows.com/2012/01/16/lunch-this-week-chickpea-salad-wraps/

Bring those along with some homemade juice, and a simple desert like some vegan chocolate chip cookies, and you should be good.

Keep it simple and light. You'll don't want something heavy that's a mess, hard to set up, or that will make you feel too full after you eat it.

>>5397164
Vegan wine? Where's the animal produce in wine? It's fucking grapes.

>>5410801
some retards care how its filtered/etc shit so :/